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		<title>By: ApatheticOne (the original)</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-44274</link>
		<dc:creator>ApatheticOne (the original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow...I somehow missed this posting...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well...long rant short, if you disregard the late Heath Ledgers&#039; portrayal of the Joker..this film becomes a steaming pile of rhino dung. Christain Bale is by far, one of the worst Batmans...ever. Such an overrated flick..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow&#8230;I somehow missed this posting&#8230;</p>
<p>Well&#8230;long rant short, if you disregard the late Heath Ledgers&#39; portrayal of the Joker..this film becomes a steaming pile of rhino dung. Christain Bale is by far, one of the worst Batmans&#8230;ever. Such an overrated flick&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ApatheticOne (the original)</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-42187</link>
		<dc:creator>ApatheticOne (the original)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow...I somehow missed this posting...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well...long rant short, if you disregard the late Heath Ledgers&#039; portrayal of the Joker..this film becomes a steaming pile of rhino dung. Christain Bale is by far, one of the worst Batmans...ever. Such an overrated flick..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow&#8230;I somehow missed this posting&#8230;</p>
<p>Well&#8230;long rant short, if you disregard the late Heath Ledgers&#39; portrayal of the Joker..this film becomes a steaming pile of rhino dung. Christain Bale is by far, one of the worst Batmans&#8230;ever. Such an overrated flick&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KeithM</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-40211</link>
		<dc:creator>KeithM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a confession to make... I was one of those wacky fanboys who stood in line for 4 hours to see this movie opening night... then did it again a week later to see it on IMAX. For me, this movie was a genuine experience much like the Lord of the Rings was; you can sit there after the movie and feel sure that you&#039;ve been one of those witnessing a big cinematic moment like the Star Wars Original Trilogy. I&#039;m like pretty much anyone else that liked this movie: I was overjoyed when Rachel Dawes got blown up. She had no place in the movie, added nothing to the character, story, or general development, and the director was right to just rub her out of the entire picture. The two things that I saw carrying The Dark Knight was the development of what Batman actually is... and Heath Ledger&#039;s performance as the Joker.

Almost without fail in the comic books, the Joker is portrayed as a madman who nonetheless can remark to another villain that &quot;I only say here because it&#039;s funny&quot; when speaking of Arkham Asylum... and the reader can genuinely believe that the Joker could leave at a whim without much trouble. It&#039;s a very difficult performance to bring off... you have to convince the audience that the villain is actually insane while also convincing them that the villain is so fiendishly cunning that he can seize control of events and direct them like a puppeteer. I believe that the Joker actually putting a massive amount of explosives in the hospital would have been solved by widening the timeline a little because the movie establishes that the Joker can easily get access to goons that take care of the grunt work. Ledger makes the Joker a real adversary for the remarkable intellect of Batman and it is tragic that any prior movies will go forward without this movie&#039;s chess match between two very different yet roughly equal players in a deadly game. Heath Ledger and his ability to make the Joker into what he has always been will be sorely missed.

I also enjoyed the second carrying point of the movie: the further development of Batman. The first movie established what forces pushed him onto the path that he walked; the second one examined the boundaries of the Batman&#039;s crusade against crime. Batman is a vigilante who nonetheless will risk himself to avoid killing a remorseless psychopathic murderer. He is willing to create what Lucius Fox called an abomination to catch an evil man... then put the system&#039;s self-destruct in the hands of the man who hated it most. He sacrificed his reputation as a doer of good just to avoid tarnishing his city&#039;s burnished image of a highly principled district attorney who did with the law what Batman did without it. In short, we see Batman formed into a fearsome ends-justify-the-means vigilante... who draws a thick red line between himself and a maniac like the Joker. Most of all, we see that Batman genuinely wishes that the city he loved could be cleaned and protected without the billowing cape of the Batman overshadowing it. Like Ledger making the Joker into a rough Moriarty, Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan created a movie Batman that reflects the complex persona of a principled intellectual vigilante that must be a shallow irresponsible playboy for the world.

Others have suggested what villain they&#039;d like to see for a future Christopher Nolan directed Batman movie; my answer is that I&#039;d like to see Bane and further, to see the &quot;Knightfall&quot; trilogy converted into a movie of the quality of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I think that as far as a trilogy goes, it would be the perfect bookend to the development of Batman as a person in the universe at large. For those of you unfamiliar with it, the Knightfall trilogy features Batman being worn down by endless crime waves engineered by Bane until he is so exhausted that Bane can reveal himself... and snap Batman&#039;s spine, rendering him a paraplegic. Due to excellent medical help, Bruce Wayne starts on the road to recovering but in the meantime, hands the cape over to a man that he regards as a responsible guardian. The man proves to be zealous but unprincipled, so taken with the ability to suppress crime with fear that he becomes a murderer... all the while dressed in the cape of a man who has always stepped back from that abyss. Bruce Wayne eventually recovers and fights his successor for his cape... and in the end, triumphs, returning Batman to being a caped crusader, a principled vigilante who recoils from the worst evils. In my view, the book trilogy establishes exactly who the Batman is and cements him as the man who does numerous questionable things to deter and fight evil but will not destroy even the most bloodthirsty life. This would be an epic bookend to the Nolan movies if done right and firmly would set Batman on the path that logically leads to an ordinary man being regarded as equal to the superhumans and supernaturals of the Justice League.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a confession to make&#8230; I was one of those wacky fanboys who stood in line for 4 hours to see this movie opening night&#8230; then did it again a week later to see it on IMAX. For me, this movie was a genuine experience much like the Lord of the Rings was; you can sit there after the movie and feel sure that you&#8217;ve been one of those witnessing a big cinematic moment like the Star Wars Original Trilogy. I&#8217;m like pretty much anyone else that liked this movie: I was overjoyed when Rachel Dawes got blown up. She had no place in the movie, added nothing to the character, story, or general development, and the director was right to just rub her out of the entire picture. The two things that I saw carrying The Dark Knight was the development of what Batman actually is&#8230; and Heath Ledger&#8217;s performance as the Joker.</p>
<p>Almost without fail in the comic books, the Joker is portrayed as a madman who nonetheless can remark to another villain that &#8220;I only say here because it&#8217;s funny&#8221; when speaking of Arkham Asylum&#8230; and the reader can genuinely believe that the Joker could leave at a whim without much trouble. It&#8217;s a very difficult performance to bring off&#8230; you have to convince the audience that the villain is actually insane while also convincing them that the villain is so fiendishly cunning that he can seize control of events and direct them like a puppeteer. I believe that the Joker actually putting a massive amount of explosives in the hospital would have been solved by widening the timeline a little because the movie establishes that the Joker can easily get access to goons that take care of the grunt work. Ledger makes the Joker a real adversary for the remarkable intellect of Batman and it is tragic that any prior movies will go forward without this movie&#8217;s chess match between two very different yet roughly equal players in a deadly game. Heath Ledger and his ability to make the Joker into what he has always been will be sorely missed.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed the second carrying point of the movie: the further development of Batman. The first movie established what forces pushed him onto the path that he walked; the second one examined the boundaries of the Batman&#8217;s crusade against crime. Batman is a vigilante who nonetheless will risk himself to avoid killing a remorseless psychopathic murderer. He is willing to create what Lucius Fox called an abomination to catch an evil man&#8230; then put the system&#8217;s self-destruct in the hands of the man who hated it most. He sacrificed his reputation as a doer of good just to avoid tarnishing his city&#8217;s burnished image of a highly principled district attorney who did with the law what Batman did without it. In short, we see Batman formed into a fearsome ends-justify-the-means vigilante&#8230; who draws a thick red line between himself and a maniac like the Joker. Most of all, we see that Batman genuinely wishes that the city he loved could be cleaned and protected without the billowing cape of the Batman overshadowing it. Like Ledger making the Joker into a rough Moriarty, Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan created a movie Batman that reflects the complex persona of a principled intellectual vigilante that must be a shallow irresponsible playboy for the world.</p>
<p>Others have suggested what villain they&#8217;d like to see for a future Christopher Nolan directed Batman movie; my answer is that I&#8217;d like to see Bane and further, to see the &#8220;Knightfall&#8221; trilogy converted into a movie of the quality of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I think that as far as a trilogy goes, it would be the perfect bookend to the development of Batman as a person in the universe at large. For those of you unfamiliar with it, the Knightfall trilogy features Batman being worn down by endless crime waves engineered by Bane until he is so exhausted that Bane can reveal himself&#8230; and snap Batman&#8217;s spine, rendering him a paraplegic. Due to excellent medical help, Bruce Wayne starts on the road to recovering but in the meantime, hands the cape over to a man that he regards as a responsible guardian. The man proves to be zealous but unprincipled, so taken with the ability to suppress crime with fear that he becomes a murderer&#8230; all the while dressed in the cape of a man who has always stepped back from that abyss. Bruce Wayne eventually recovers and fights his successor for his cape&#8230; and in the end, triumphs, returning Batman to being a caped crusader, a principled vigilante who recoils from the worst evils. In my view, the book trilogy establishes exactly who the Batman is and cements him as the man who does numerous questionable things to deter and fight evil but will not destroy even the most bloodthirsty life. This would be an epic bookend to the Nolan movies if done right and firmly would set Batman on the path that logically leads to an ordinary man being regarded as equal to the superhumans and supernaturals of the Justice League.</p>
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		<title>By: Harichu</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-39441</link>
		<dc:creator>Harichu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone have wrote this. But the actor who plays the mayor of gotham city is &quot;Nestor Carbonell&quot;, and he doesen&#039;t have eyeliner. Many people thinks so , but he is really just looking like that. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone have wrote this. But the actor who plays the mayor of gotham city is &#8220;Nestor Carbonell&#8221;, and he doesen&#8217;t have eyeliner. Many people thinks so , but he is really just looking like that. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Monotar</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36645</link>
		<dc:creator>Monotar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i REALLY didnt like this movie after haven seen this movie a second time. This is the kind of movie you go WOW over once. And when you&#039;ve seen this movie once, It&#039;s dead. No rewatch value at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i REALLY didnt like this movie after haven seen this movie a second time. This is the kind of movie you go WOW over once. And when you&#8217;ve seen this movie once, It&#8217;s dead. No rewatch value at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowcifur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowcifur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to think that the Joker already had the explosives in the hospital, and was planning on detonating them regardless, then just decided to put out his little PSA since it&#039;d be funnier that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think that the Joker already had the explosives in the hospital, and was planning on detonating them regardless, then just decided to put out his little PSA since it&#8217;d be funnier that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He really doesn&#039;t wear eyeliner.  I saw a picture of him as a kid on IMDB and his eyes just naturally look like that.</description>
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		<title>By: Bobed Bob</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-33979</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobed Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There nothing much to discuss about this movie.Typical generic superhero action movie. Just entertain.</description>
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		<title>By: auPHE</title>
		<link>http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/07/20/the-dark-knight-review/comment-page-1/#comment-33414</link>
		<dc:creator>auPHE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, and this is according to the actor who plays the mayor of Gotham City (and, incidentally, Richard from Lost &lt;33)... He doesn&#039;t wear eyeliner. I say, &quot;Yeah, right.&quot;

(Besides, there are some guys who just look better with it, and he&#039;s one of them.)</description>
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<p>(Besides, there are some guys who just look better with it, and he&#039;s one of them.)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott 'Zeus' Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott 'Zeus' Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call it &quot;blasphemy&quot;, but I&#039;m kind of glad Ledger cannot reprise his role (HOWEVER! I&#039;m sad that it is because he passed on). My reasoning being that the next iteration in the Nolan Trilogy could NOT feature the Joker to the degree and depth that was in TDK. As such, it&#039;d be deeply difficult to work Joker back into the story, and allowing Ledger the same level of freedom to run around as the character. Quite honestly, I do hope that the Joker is NOT utilised in the third movie, as it would undermine the second (in my opinion anyway).

As with the first and second, the third should focus on entirely NEW villains. I&#039;d personally like to see The Ventriloquist and Scarface make their appearance. I always found their presence to be intricate, and deeply unsettling. $20 down on seeing Killer Croc in the next one, though. Or maybe, we&#039;ll get Harley Quinn to replace Joker? Of course, I&#039;d like to see the Animated Series version costume; not the Arkham Asylum game one. For... obvious reasons... natch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call it &#8220;blasphemy&#8221;, but I&#8217;m kind of glad Ledger cannot reprise his role (HOWEVER! I&#8217;m sad that it is because he passed on). My reasoning being that the next iteration in the Nolan Trilogy could NOT feature the Joker to the degree and depth that was in TDK. As such, it&#8217;d be deeply difficult to work Joker back into the story, and allowing Ledger the same level of freedom to run around as the character. Quite honestly, I do hope that the Joker is NOT utilised in the third movie, as it would undermine the second (in my opinion anyway).</p>
<p>As with the first and second, the third should focus on entirely NEW villains. I&#8217;d personally like to see The Ventriloquist and Scarface make their appearance. I always found their presence to be intricate, and deeply unsettling. $20 down on seeing Killer Croc in the next one, though. Or maybe, we&#8217;ll get Harley Quinn to replace Joker? Of course, I&#8217;d like to see the Animated Series version costume; not the Arkham Asylum game one. For&#8230; obvious reasons&#8230; natch.</p>
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