I’ve just finished Fallout 3, so I thought I’d offer up a belated conclusion to my previous review!
well, there is a fifth ending in Fallout 3. You can put the Virus-thing in this waterfilter-thing before you die but that doesn’t change the fact that bethesta could have done more than this bunch of endings.
Exactly there is one more thing that affects ending. When you are in “Raven Rock” and huge computer asks you to take virus and kill all mutants with it. After that you can either give virus to britherhood of steel or to keep it and put in purifier killing all mutantas…
A similar disappointment was Bioshock, where the developers talked about endless possibilities. But at least in Bioshock I felt good about ***SPOILER*** saving the Little Sisters and in the final cutscene seeing them grow up, go to college, get married and finally gather around my deathbed.****SPOILER****. In the case of Fallout3, I felt like all the hard work. careful choice of actions and skillpoint distribution were totally wasted. I was so excited when I was entering 216 in the keypad thinking “good thing I noted it down (my mother’s favorite Bible verse). I later found out you could just randomly press any set of numbers and the outcome would be the same. THAT WAS SHIT!
Morrowind was all kinds of great, and oblivion was pretty disappointing, but I figured “Morrowind was so good”, so I bought fallout 3, and it was a bit better than oblivion, but I really didn’t like it, pretty much for the reasons mentioned. But I am sure I will buy about six more bethesda games thinking “morrowind was the best game ever, this should be good too” before I stop.
there are three or four more of those mutant behemoth’s in the wasteland but i do agree more bosses.
Also to Lunideth i thought the vial was to speed up mutation and to kill off the weak.
Fallout 3 i both love and hate i just wish i could see whats happening now have i actually helped or is everything the same. The super mutants haven’t gone or the raiders, Ghouls still plague the underground to be honest i feel iv only reduced radiation poisoning in the wastes and whats stopping the water from being irradiated again.
Amen on the whole Fawkes deal… when I heard the “i’m not going to take your destiny from you” crap i was like… WHAT THE FUCK?!? And during the whole “escort the robot” part of the game, i felt sooo damn useless. The damn robot kept walking around blasting things, the brotherhood of steel assholes were far behind (only the blonde chick *don’t remember her name* survived, the others died along the way like idiots), i didn’t even get to shoot one damn enemy during the whole “mission”.
Not to mention the fact that all the side quests are useless. You can completely ignore all the side quests (thus avoiding the exp gain from those missions) and still get to the end of the game without much effort.
I have to say – the ending was a big disappointment, especially considering the fact that i knew about the whole “many endings” thing.
Still, I enjoyed the whole Tranquility Lane part. Oh, and the part where you get to the “kids city” was so annoying. All those snot-nosed kids acting all high and mighty… i reloaded so many times just because i followed the urge to beat them to a pulp or shoot their brains out. Still, the hyperactive nuka-cola kid with the goggles and the mouse suit was quite entertaining. :D
The following contains spoilers, but then again, so did the video, so why are you reading the comments…?
If you wait long enough, the purifier will explode. Funny stuff XD
fuckin brilliant game. but i totally agree with you. what the fuck with those endings.
I agree on the Fawkes (or Charon for that matter) thing. From what I’ve read from the developers blog, followers were a thing they added after the main quest was done so that’s why it’s weak sauce. An explanation they could have run with was that Fawkes’ fingers are too big to push a single button at a time *shrug*
They’ll change the ending with the third DLC anyways, so I’m looking forward to that.
I’m sitting with the hintbook to Fallout 3 here and it brags about how the game has 500+ endings.
Here’s how: There’s 8 combinations of race/gender. There’s 3 high karma endings, 1 neutral and 3 low karma endings.
That’s 56 so far. There’s 2 endings if you enter the chamber yourself, and 1 if you send the girl in. That makes 168.
There’s 3 different endings depending on whether you destroy Raven Rock and/or deploy the F.E.V. virus.
That makes 504 so-called “endings” total. It’s cheap, but I guess they can claim it.
just so you know dude there are a total of 5 mutant behemoths to fight and you get a reward for killing them all.
Another option doesn’t make any sense at all. In fact, it should work without a hitch. You should be able to send Charon in (since, being a ghoul, not only is he immune to rads, but it HEALS HIM) seeing as how you have his contract so he has to obey you. But no, he says
“I’ve saved your sorry ass enough”. What the hell?! I hope they find a better solution once the Broken Steel DLC gets released.
Hopefully they won’t take away what little choice there was to begin with by forcing Lyons to go in automatically.
Having partners in this game was useless. If you kill someone everyone knows and its useless to be evil because no will help you. I wish i could change dog meat’s name to something else
the AI only went after you and their accuracy and damage so totally unbalance. The ending sucks you could I died before I put the code in and it said “he could not follow his father’s footsteps” I made president Eden blown himself up as well and my speech was 30 or something like that.
My favorite weapon is the 9mm submachine gun.
I agree whole heartily. The endings pissed me off.
Theres kind of some mini bosses like the queen ant, but its optional if you wanna kill it, because the mission its to live it alone xD
Actually Jericho will assist you if you’re evil.
The ending was bad, I had Fawlkes with me too, and I was ridicously overpowered at that point, having an arsenal of Pistols, SMG’s, Assault rifles, Rocket Launchers Mini Nukes and Plasma weaponry. I killed Autumn in One headshot. (I believe his head landed in the water) I would of liked a final boss but unfortunately that’s Bethesda (Obivilion didn’t have any bosses either.)
Broken Steel comes out in 3 days, and hopefully that will sort things out.
spoony i agree with the ending of the game i play fallout 3 but i downloads some add-ons for it like the pitt and broken steel but i still agree about fucking ending the game maker need to pull they head out of they ass
Broken steel fixes the last two problems!
You can now send a bitch in!
But you still have to pay TEN BUCKS for something that SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE ALREADY!!!
AND (Spoiler coming) LIBERTY PRIME BLOWS UP THE FIRST FUCKING MISSION!!! FUCK YOU, Mr. ORBITAL STRIKE!!!
but, hey, It fixes a lot of shit, so I give it 3.5/5. I’d get it
If your playing it on a pc look up some place called Fallout 3 nexus
it’s use-made mod (like broken steel and the pitt)
some are good some are bad and some are soft-core porn
but look it up If the fallout air has gotten a little too stail for you
if you get the broken steel DLC it happens after the main fallout 3 quest and you still play as you character.
I would love to fight a huge boss monster I saved bunch mini nukes,missiles etc.. for that purposed I was so pissed off by the ending
I like brother of steel and the outcast
You know you have to buy the DLC for fallout for more quests and you still play as your guy you level up after too get the broken steel one its the best
I’ve gotta agree with you on pretty much all of your points, Spoony.
As some others pointed out, there are a few other Super Mutant Abominations, like that creature you fought at the radio tower, but those are optional fights that you have to track down for the achievement points. Also, President Eden gives you a vial of the modified FEV virus and you have the option of contaminating the water with it, in case you want to be a total dick, so that can give you a third ending.
I managed to break progression of the game, though! At the part where you follow the giant robot and watch it blow stuff up for you, I got so impatient waiting for my turn to kill someone I decided to charge off ahead and help Giant Robo by taking out some of those Enclave dudes myself. Turns out that by killing them before the robot does, the robot’s script gets broken and he just *stands* there on the bridge doing sweet fuck all. I killed the Enclave, then ran into a force field in one area, and a frakkin’ INVISIBLE WALL in another. I tried going everywhere I could, doing anything I could, but I could not advance, and the robot would not follow me. My only option was to reload from the save I had the good sense to make before Giant Robo went off on his rampage.
Actually when I asked Fawkes to go in for me, he did. I think you have a extremely high
also there are some bosses. but theyre not part of the main storyline. 4 other super mutant behmothes can be found, the Talon company Leader.
i hate the ending but what i really dont get is if you send the girl in YOU ARENT DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so what the hell is stoping you and why is that “the end of the story of the lone wanderer” no if fuckin isent I! AM! NOT ! DEAD!
you should do a lets play fallout 1 or 2
You should play the game again, you can do more and more now. Even send Fwakes into that chamber instead of yourself
my complaint to fallout 3
no stealth eliment
wear a helmet how do they recomize you
enter the brotherhood place as an enclve armour
the just wave you throught
Well, as most people I agree with the dissapointing ending options. It all seemed very rushed through as if they ran out of time or money to give the game a proper ending. This wouldn’t be the first time something like that has happened. I was also somewhat turned off by the somewhat confusing introduction and follow through of the vault experiement project by the government. There was some story writing missing to tell that more smoothly. Also, I have to say I’m really tired of the “evil government that conspires against its people” stuff that is so overused by now it actually gets annoying.
That being said, I had a lot of fun playing this game. It offered a lot of exploration that never got boring and it was very effective in seting up the mood for each scene. Sure, it could have been much better if they had taken more time to flesh it out better – like the vampire story for example – but I was still satisfied with what was delivered.
I have to admit that I didn’t miss the so called Boss Fights. Seriously, pretty much every game that was ever made has it, so deviating from that didn’t bother me at all. There were many interesting fights in Fallout 3 and not having to kill a super opponent at every angle was refreshing in a way.
Additionally, and I know that many will not agree with me on this, I have to say that following that super robot around in the end who did all the fighting was something I liked. I found it pretty amusing to watch that guy tearing the Enclave soldiers apart while shouting anti-communist propaganda at them. This is something new and entertaining in my opinion, although it would have been cool if you and the squad would have had to take the fights in the underground buildings to reach your final mark in an intensive building to building fight.
But I think that might have also been due to the fact that the game seemed to be rushed onto the market.
All in all, I really liked Fallout 3 and would strongly recommen it. It captures the feeling of a FPS while giving you some very decent storytelling with it and how often do you find that?
Yes, the endings were dissapointing and yes, it had potential to be much more than was realized in the released version, but by the end of the day you had fun playing it.
PS: I don’t see why people complain about the VATS system too much. I understand their point, but I think they blow it out of proportion. I never had problems delivering deadly hits with proper aiming without resorting to it and I mostly used it for fun stuff like shooting grenades out of the air or getting a chuckle out of messy slow-mo kills.
You can play this game perfectly well without resorting to it, if it is such a disturbing factor to FPS hardliners.
I totally Agree with spoony…but most of these issues are cleared up in the DLC…If you want to pay for that thing that’s your own thing
The funny part is that some people come to this site just to watch you play video games.
When you said there were spoilers to the ending, I was really on the fence about watching it as I have been at the 3/4 mark for a while now (it’s been a while since i popped it in the machine) and did enjoy the time spent. but my brother already warned me (even more dissapointedly than usual when he says this-which is a lot these days) that the ending is a total let down nut kicker. so i said, screw it, i’m probably not gonna get back to it forever anyway and watched. and i’m glad i did. as usual, good review, very honest and very funny
i actually really enjoyed what i played of the game. I thought it’s world and characters had a lot of personality (I too liked the crazy bitch with the wisconsin soccer mom voice, she was one of my favs so you aren’t alone) I liked the look and feel of everything, the world, the outfits (especially the brotherhood and the enclave…those dudes looked like battle armored old batman from kingdom come), the weapons, the whole thing. and while if you left it on too long, it did get tiresome, i really did love the radio. some of those songs had me giggling like a tard. “old butcher pete” in particular. the whole 50′s vibe with the totally messed up sick humor was a great combo.
though i was already annoyed to discover you couldn’t continue playing after the end, and even more so that you’re skill points capped out, so that you pretty much HAD to just give in and go end the quest. I wasted a lot of points at the beginning and it sort of jerks my chain that i could never explore those skills later. like stuff that said “you need a 100 in lockpick” or whatever to proceed, meant pretty much, if you want to see this stuff, you have to start all over again and ration your points better. I understand that’s to entice replay value, but man, make me WANT to play again, telling me i HAVE to is the fastest way to get me to say “up yours” and go blow some zombie brains out in RE mercenary mode.
though i have to say @ Murderbunny…that was so awesome you called liberty prime Giant robo…aw shit i laughed my ass off when i read that. I LOVE giant robo and i saw my bro playing through that part and i literally said “CRUSH THEM NOW, GIANT ROBO!!!” awesome. just awesome :)
Fawks wouldn’t go in for you? She musted of liked you XD
She went in for me, and was happy to. She also killed verything before i could vats them most of the time
Oh yeah Fawks is female, scary huh?
If you got Broken Steel, an expansion pack, you can send Fawkes in, or even better you can survive and do more shit.
If you get Broken Steel, an expansion pack, you can survive and use Fawkes to do it. There are a fuck ton, 6, of expansions, and all of them are pretty epic and I personally love The Pitt. It is about freeing slaves, or of course the contrary, and ironically my most hated, and feared enemy, the trogg is there. It is like a sodomized frog person.
Spoony I love ya man, but you really should have atleast checked an online FAQ about FULLY completing the game. You CAN send Fawkes into the chamber for you, but you need to persuade her. I could have sworn taking out the Enclave after the activation of the GECK, and meeting the “president” face-to-face was the finale,which is were the game officially ended(With the Lucas Simm's recap) for me. It's been a while since I beat the game on my original play through, but I think you got shafted with a faux ending. Regardless Fallout 3 is still my favorite current gen title, and while New Vegas looks like more of the same I still can't wait to play it!
You need to get the expansions man. They really make up for the “ending” and Broken Steel goes beyond the ending and makes the game virtually endless.
In Broken Steel you send in fawkes. I bought the game of the year eidition so didnt even know that you could not send in fawkes. My dear fawkes my most trusted ally.
There's actually a third option for entering the code , if you rescue this super mutant in vault 87 ? you can send him in (since he's radiation resistant he doesn't die)
you can send in fawlks now i think they did it in a update
Hey morons, plz all keep saying you can send Fawkes into the chamber in the UPDATED EXPANSION PACK. You're all the first ones to point this out. Please continue. I almost saw something interesting between the multiple posts saying the same exact thing.
This review is a perfect example of nit picking something to death! Firstly, who the hell cares about the ending? If you want to watch something inspiring and epic, watch a good movie. If you want to play a great game, play Fallout 3. So what if there was really only 4 endings that are pretty much similar, most games only have one ending. As for the plot hole with Fawkes, if it's the only noticeable plot hole in hundreds of lines of dialogue and tons of quests then what is the problem? So there was one plot hole at the end (that has been fixed). Is the game now unplayable and inappreciable? I never played the game for the ending and I do not know anyone else who did. Like I said before, if you want to watch something inspiring, epic and air tight watch a good movie.
Secondly, as for the mini bosses it would have been a good idea to add more. Once again this is something that, yes would have been a good idea and should have been added. However, a lack of mini bosses does not, make the game unplayable or effect the game in a major way. More mini bosses is a good suggestion for the next Fallout game, not something that, significantly vitiates the game or is worth a long rant.
Lastly, having the game end and not continue is not a problem at all, in any way. All you have to do is reload and not complete the final main story quest, which does not effect game play, or anything at all. There problem fixed.
This review both horrified and fascinated me. I am fascinated with the nit picking achieved by this review. I am horrified that someone could actually give Fallout 3 a bad review. Fallout 3 is an excellent game, one of the best in the last decade. Reviewing Fallout 3 and rating it as satisfactory or bad because the ending sucked, there was a lack of mini boss and you cannot continue the game after the main story is completed is the epitome of nit picking and completely asinine.
dude your a idiot.
spoony never said the game is bad… did you actually watch it? or just read other ppls comments and just make a synopsos? he never said it was inplayable and inappreciable. and if you ever played the other fallout games they actually had pretty good endings and spoony liked those games as do I so when the third games ending sucks dick then spoony and I are going to be dissapointed. Alot of gamers im sure play the game for the story, a game is spose to entertain you with several tools at its disposal i.e. gameplay, graphichs, cinematics and a STORY!!! some action games dont need stories or at least good ones such as Call Of Duty 4 cause you play the game to shoot shit. What RPG doesnt try to have a good story? He ranted on the mini bosses for like 1 min not the whole video. All he said was that it would be cool if you could fight big monsters or horrible mutants cause radiation opens up alot of doors and the developers didnt use them. All he said about the ending was that it was stupid that you could not continue after it was over not that IT TOTALLY CRIPPLED THE GAME AND YOU JUST CANT PLAY IT ANYMORE CAUSE ITS STUPID like your making it out to be.
And dude i could name 5 games off the top of my head that were waaaayyyy better than fallout 3 in the last decade. go stand in line with the no-brain zombies of mainstream society
“Firstly, who the hell cares about the ending? If you want to watch something inspiring and epic, watch a good movie.”
Because the ending is the payoff for the hours and hours of play. Every been to a movie that was otherwise great, but they bombed the ending? Endings matter. As for the number of endings, Bethesda is the one who put it up there as having 900, not 4, 900. No one made them promise that, that was there choice, and of course a video game critic is going to talk about that. but thanks for saying that games shouldn’t evolve, that’s couldn’t be problematic at all. It’s not like Fallout 3 even happened in the first place because of the evolution of the video game industry. Story in a game like this is now considered standard. You want a game with no story to it? Go play burgertime.
As has been mentioned, he liked the game, but it fell apart in the 3rd act. At no point does he say, or imply that it is unplayable, so I’m not sure where you got that one from.
There is actually another ending that you can do you could just stand there and do nothing then the game just ends and you fail miserably.
Least Broken Steel opened the ending up, but the idea that the radiation doesn't kill you doesn't make much sense unless you send in Fawkes, who actually goes in there now, then it makes sense. Otherwise, “Energy Spike Knocked You Out” doesn't make sense, you're in the radiation, you were gonna die! Now all of a sudden you're fine?
But sending in Fawkes at least made sense, he went in, punched in the code, there was an energy spike that knocked you out, I'm fine with it like that.
As in the Behemoth, there's at least 5 of them and a 360 acheivement for taking them all out, so they're kind of static “Bosses”
Just need to google it all to find it.
the game fprps3 is busted it dose not work nor does some of the dlc
Seriously dude… He only “Nit picked” about the ending and bosses because thats really ALL HE HAD against the game… He didn't say the game was horrible… he didn't say it wasn't a good game… he simply stated that if you are really into stories and getting into a plot then the ending would really get under your skin… He even retracted some of the things that bothered him in his initial review… It was an over all really positive review from Spoony and that is saying something. He doesn't go out of his way to say good things about a game/movie/show unless the game is really good and is worth the time because that is not why people come here lol… You must not be a big fan of Spoony or understand how he does things.
I mean no real disrespect to you but that's how it is.
Seriously dude… He only “Nit picked” about the ending and bosses because thats really ALL HE HAD against the game… He didn’t say the game was horrible… he didn’t say it wasn’t a good game… he simply stated that if you are really into stories and getting into a plot then the ending would really get under your skin… He even retracted some of the things that bothered him in his initial review… It was an over all really positive review from Spoony and that is saying something. He doesn’t go out of his way to say good things about a game/movie/show unless the game is really good and is worth the time because that is not why people come here lol… You must not be a big fan of Spoony or understand how he does things.
I mean no real disrespect to you but that’s how it is.
The mods are where the fun is at.
Well there’s your problem.
Don’t diss. the PS3, it has its merits.
But yeah, Fallout 3 sucks balls.
In the expantion there are more options , but not 900. P.S There is an Alone In The Dark 2.
best expansion reward is operation anchorage with unbreakable t51b p armor and the best expansion itself is point lookout whichc also has the best critical hit weapon the backwater rifle try and get it fun quest!
I wonder if Spoony has tried New Vegas? It is much more like Fallout 1 & 2. Much, much better plot. It still sucks that you can’t continue after the end (unless you use mods).
Love the retards in this comments section who don’t realize that this was posted long before Broken Steel was released.
There are also other people you can send in like a super mutant helper can come in. He ends up living after.
And that’s why you never end the game…EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or you can send your super mutant ally in there since he is immune to radiation thus everyone lives
You have to make Fawkes like you more to be able to send him in, that way neither you or the Brotherhood chick will die, and Fawkes will survive. You can also choose to defile the cure, killing instead of saving people
Only if Broken Steel is installed. This review is LONG before the DLC.
Spoony’s right about the endings not being the best. I was hoping to see more info on how my accomplishments panned out across the D.C. Wasteland too. As it is, if you download the DLC, you can send in some of your companions, like the robot, Fawkes or Charon (a ghoul). However, if you do so, the ending will be pretty much like sending in the Brotherhood woman. “The wanderer from Vault 101 was a great guy/complete asshole…but when the time came, he was a chickenshit and made his companion enter the code instead of doing it himself.”
I never liked that. I thought it was really stupid. Why is asking someone IMMUNE TO RADIATION to go someplace highly radioactive cowardly? If there was no other way and you still refused, yeah, that would be cowardly. But as it is, shit, it’s just trying to use common sense!
Fallout 3 was a really traumatizing experience for me. I loved Fallout 1
and 2 to death, i’ve replayed each of them well over fifty times and
never got bored. The setting, the atmosphere (why oh why do you hate the
beautiful dark ambient compositions of Mark Morgan, Spoony? They fit in
perfectly with the setting in general, underlining how grim and
decrepit the reality around you is), the plot, the writing, the art
style. It was near perfect top to bottom (Fallout 2 had some problems
and silly things, like talking Deathclaws and too many popculture references, but not enough to spoil the experience for me).
Fallout 3 just… it rained on my parade, man. Holy shit, did it ever.
From skills and abilities having minimal impact on NPC and world
interaction (something that was a staple of the previous Fallouts, the
skill checks were ever-present), through excessive level scaling, the
dumb as fuck dialogues, retarded locations (not all of them, the vaults
were generally well made, the Dunwich building had fantastic atmosphere,
except the very end, but that farm republic place or the city of little
children, FUCKING MEGATON… come on!), canonical inconsistencies with
the previous installments, to little things like becoming a saint for
giving away water to hobos and that god-damn vampire cult.
The potential for a great Fallout game was there, as was showcased with
New Vegas, which is brilliant and is basically everything Fallout 3
should have been. The gameplay itself is not even that bad, if i’d
ignore the horrible writing i could go even as far as to say that i
enjoyed the travelling and exploring and shooting things in the balls.
However, it is branded as an official Fallout game. And that condemns it
to the lowest circle of hell, where i hope it and it’s creators will
burn for all time. B-TRADE ME!!!
there is giant super mutants every where in the westland but they are for the achivement
Still better ending than ME3.
The only thing I disagree with you on Spoony is the soundtrack for the originals. I thought that Mark Morgan’s soundtrack was absolutely brilliant and was very fitting for the atmosphere of the classics.
I still wish you reviewed New Vegas just because it was a return to form to the original’s narrative and feel. But I still think that Fallout 3 was still a pretty good Fallout game. It was deffinately better than Tactics and BoS.
Regarding that “end boss”, it gets better … by passing 2 “speech” checks, you can convince him to walk away, and not even fight you. And yeah, as neat as it was seeing that giant robot blow stuff up, it came down to me just walking along behind it, and picking off a few stray soldiers left behind.
Also agree with the giant mutant thing. When I saw that, I was kind of expecting more of that. It kinda slipped my mind, but in retrospect, it’s disappointing that such encountered didn’t happen more often.