Deadliest Warrior

Spoony | Apr 9 2009 | more | 
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Oh man, this show is hilarious.

I never intended to watch this show, but my brother was recording The Ultimate Fighter, and I was working on SWAT videos, too busy to change the channel. So Deadliest Warrior comes on, and immediately I’m captivated, because the whole thing is narrated by David Wenham, the same guy who played the Storyteller Dilios in the movie 300. That right there is worth the price of admission, because he’s basically narrating the show in the EXACT SAME way, right down to the melodramatic, throaty tone of voice, dripping with foreboding and menace as he describes everything in grandiose prose, like “the stealthy Apache, fearless and swift.” It takes everything you’ve got not to do your own running commentary in the same voice: “And we brave few Spartans stood vigil at the gates of Hell! We 300 pitted against legions of brutal Apache warriors! And lo, did King Leonidas, King of Sparta, stand fearless, spear and shield in hand.”

Hey, if I were David Wenham I’d just call people up and do that. “We Spartans desire a pizza, rich in sauce and deep of crust. Showered in decadent sausage and mushrooms. Their honor rode upon a simple pledge, much revered in Sparta: pizza within 30 minutes, else be cast out as a filthy, lowly wretch…”

Anyway, the whole show is based in some bizarre Chris Sims-ian premise that basically sounds like the brainchild of two stoners after a rousing session of SoulCaliber. “What if, like, a gladiator fought an Apache?”

And that’s the entire show. Seriously. It’s one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever heard, sort of like the Anachronism collectible card game brought to life.

But anyway, they go balls-deep into the ludicrous concept, bringing in “experts” in the respective weapons and fighting styles, and letting them argue about whose cock is bigger. In this case, they brought a Native American knife specialist who trains U.S. special forces and some chunkhead who apparently knows a lot about gladiatorial fighting. The whole thing is overseen by a scientist who provides them with ample analogues for the human body to stab and brutalize, lots of skeletal remains encased in ballistics gelatin, lots of martial arts practice dummies. But despite all of these experts, none of them seem able to point out that, geographical impossibilities notwithstanding, Roman gladiators were first and foremost showmen who rarely fought to the death. Their weapons were made primarily for wounding and effect, their armor specifically fashioned for dramatic effect, most of the time with the chest and arms exposed to showcase bloody injuries. Only criminals were usually left to die in the arena.

But whatever. The bulk of the show is showcasing the various common weapons and doing some bullshit evaluation of which ones are “better,” depending on range, utility, and overall deadliness. What it all boils down to is, some big guy picks up the sword, hits a side of beef, and the doctor looks over the damage, scratches his chin and says “Yup, that could kill you!” Well no shit, Doc. It’s a good thing you’re here, to tell me that a bow and arrow could kill you.

The scientist also has a simulator. Ostensibly, he’s collecting a ton of data that he feeds into his computer (full of SCIENCE) that will eventually tell us who was more badass. Never mind that both sides had completely different fighting styles– the Apache with stealth, ambush, hit-and-run tactics, and gladiators in A FUCKING ARENA. We couldn’t have just pitted the Apaches against Roman legions?

I think the funniest part was how dismissive the gladiator side was of the Apache guys. They were totally in love with the gladiator’s sica, trident and net, and scissor weapons, and were wholly unimpressed with the Apache’s comparatively smaller weapons like the knife, war club, and tomahawk. Never mind that the special forces guy they brought in could kill you about twelve times in three seconds with that knife alone, especially with you wearing a gladiator’s helmet that obscures all but 40% of your vision and no armor over your chest or legs. The weapon they brought in to counter the tomahawk was the cestus (a spiked gauntlet), even going so far as to bring Chuck Liddell in to demonstrate how hard he could punch with it. That’s neat. You go ahead and punch the guy while he shanks you in the heart with one hand and splits your crown with a tomahawk in the other hand.

Even the Apache guy says “I don’t know why we’re talking about a fair fight, because the Apache never fought fair.”

The best part is actually the ending where they stage a surprisingly well-choreographed battle between the two actors dressed in warrior garb– in this case, an Apache and a gladiator wandering around the American forests. It’s ridiculous, of course, but it’s still a good fight. It’s just too bad that this show isn’t educational. In fact, most of the time it’s downright WRONG. Early in the show, the supposed gladiator expert gets on the camera and says “the gladiator lived for only one thing: to kill!” Most of the time, I think the gladiator lived either to make money or to win his own freedom. We learn the names of the weapons and armor, but not their significance or utility. Instead of being focused on choosing a winner, perhaps it would be more interesting to simply tell us what scenarios favor each side, and what weapons each side would choose.

I’m just waiting for the inevitable Pirate Vs. Ninja episode.

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  • Andrew The Eternal

    Why? It will be the same thing: pirates have guns, cannons, cutlasses and cooler outfits, but Ninjas don’t fight fair. It’s kind of their thing.

    Still,
    Pirates forever!!

  • Andrew The Eternal

    Why? It will be the same thing: pirates have guns, cannons, cutlasses and cooler outfits, but Ninjas don’t fight fair. It’s kind of their thing.

    Still,
    Pirates forever!!

  • Andrew The Eternal

    Why? It will be the same thing: pirates have guns, cannons, cutlasses and cooler outfits, but Ninjas don’t fight fair. It’s kind of their thing.

    Still,
    Pirates forever!!

  • Andrew The Eternal

    Why? It will be the same thing: pirates have guns, cannons, cutlasses and cooler outfits, but Ninjas don’t fight fair. It’s kind of their thing.

    Still,
    Pirates forever!!

  • nick3889

    OH SPOONY i saw that show to man I LOVED IT. i was rooting for the Apache all the way, and as soon as i heard about this show maybe 3 weeks ago i was hoping they would do a Pirate Vs. Ninja episode.which they better

  • nick3889

    OH SPOONY i saw that show to man I LOVED IT. i was rooting for the Apache all the way, and as soon as i heard about this show maybe 3 weeks ago i was hoping they would do a Pirate Vs. Ninja episode.which they better

  • nick3889

    OH SPOONY i saw that show to man I LOVED IT. i was rooting for the Apache all the way, and as soon as i heard about this show maybe 3 weeks ago i was hoping they would do a Pirate Vs. Ninja episode.which they better

  • nick3889

    OH SPOONY i saw that show to man I LOVED IT. i was rooting for the Apache all the way, and as soon as i heard about this show maybe 3 weeks ago i was hoping they would do a Pirate Vs. Ninja episode.which they better

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    David Wenham = Faramir = Awesome!

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    David Wenham = Faramir = Awesome!

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    David Wenham = Faramir = Awesome!

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    David Wenham = Faramir = Awesome!

  • remmus

    well I wanna see the fight between a average, pirate downloading nerd and the ninja from “ask a ninja”

  • remmus

    well I wanna see the fight between a average, pirate downloading nerd and the ninja from “ask a ninja”

  • remmus

    well I wanna see the fight between a average, pirate downloading nerd and the ninja from “ask a ninja”

  • remmus

    well I wanna see the fight between a average, pirate downloading nerd and the ninja from “ask a ninja”

  • eddy

    I got to say that these kind of shows are hilarious, uninformative and stupid, but still hilarious to watch.
    They should rather do a time machine- concept where these so called “experts” travel back in time and see how the warriors actually lived, instead of having some guys slicing up fake dummies. and at the end of the show.
    btw. see deadliest warrior here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAZ6KVU_dc

  • eddy

    I got to say that these kind of shows are hilarious, uninformative and stupid, but still hilarious to watch.
    They should rather do a time machine- concept where these so called “experts” travel back in time and see how the warriors actually lived, instead of having some guys slicing up fake dummies. and at the end of the show.
    btw. see deadliest warrior here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAZ6KVU_dc

  • eddy

    I got to say that these kind of shows are hilarious, uninformative and stupid, but still hilarious to watch.
    They should rather do a time machine- concept where these so called “experts” travel back in time and see how the warriors actually lived, instead of having some guys slicing up fake dummies. and at the end of the show.
    btw. see deadliest warrior here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAZ6KVU_dc

  • eddy

    I got to say that these kind of shows are hilarious, uninformative and stupid, but still hilarious to watch.
    They should rather do a time machine- concept where these so called “experts” travel back in time and see how the warriors actually lived, instead of having some guys slicing up fake dummies. and at the end of the show.
    btw. see deadliest warrior here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAZ6KVU_dc

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    You’re always mentioning your brother. Post a picture of your brother.

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    You’re always mentioning your brother. Post a picture of your brother.

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    You’re always mentioning your brother. Post a picture of your brother.

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    You’re always mentioning your brother. Post a picture of your brother.

  • Earthbaragon

    Animal Face Off rip off!!!! Sersiously, at least Animal Face Off had real science and facts. All their “facts” are sooooooooo full of crap.

  • Earthbaragon

    Animal Face Off rip off!!!! Sersiously, at least Animal Face Off had real science and facts. All their “facts” are sooooooooo full of crap.

  • Earthbaragon

    Animal Face Off rip off!!!! Sersiously, at least Animal Face Off had real science and facts. All their “facts” are sooooooooo full of crap.

  • Earthbaragon

    Animal Face Off rip off!!!! Sersiously, at least Animal Face Off had real science and facts. All their “facts” are sooooooooo full of crap.

  • slxiii

    “Roman gladiators were first and foremost showmen who rarely fought to the death. Their weapons were made primarily for wounding and effect, their armor specifically fashioned for dramatic effect, most of the time with the chest and arms exposed to showcase bloody injuries.” This is what i yelled at my television during the whole show rofl

  • slxiii

    “Roman gladiators were first and foremost showmen who rarely fought to the death. Their weapons were made primarily for wounding and effect, their armor specifically fashioned for dramatic effect, most of the time with the chest and arms exposed to showcase bloody injuries.” This is what i yelled at my television during the whole show rofl

  • slxiii

    “Roman gladiators were first and foremost showmen who rarely fought to the death. Their weapons were made primarily for wounding and effect, their armor specifically fashioned for dramatic effect, most of the time with the chest and arms exposed to showcase bloody injuries.” This is what i yelled at my television during the whole show rofl

  • slxiii

    “Roman gladiators were first and foremost showmen who rarely fought to the death. Their weapons were made primarily for wounding and effect, their armor specifically fashioned for dramatic effect, most of the time with the chest and arms exposed to showcase bloody injuries.” This is what i yelled at my television during the whole show rofl

  • XSketch

    *snort* I soooo can’t get the David Wenham Ordering Pizza dialogue out of my head now LOL

    Clearly the creators of this show were sat around one day, stoned out of their heads, debating the eternal dilemma of who would win in a fight, Superman or Batman, and one of them turned round and said ‘Dude, we should so totally find out the answer and make it into a whole TV series! But, instead of just superheroes, we could match up completely unrelated civilisations and see who kicks ass harder, like pirates and ninjas, or cavemen and modern man, or vikings and zulus – it’d be so awesome! And we could even pretend to use science – it doesn’t have to be correct, but it’d look so cool!’ LOL There’s something kinda sad about that, but at the same time it does provide even more fodder to laugh our asses off at :)

  • XSketch

    *snort* I soooo can’t get the David Wenham Ordering Pizza dialogue out of my head now LOL

    Clearly the creators of this show were sat around one day, stoned out of their heads, debating the eternal dilemma of who would win in a fight, Superman or Batman, and one of them turned round and said ‘Dude, we should so totally find out the answer and make it into a whole TV series! But, instead of just superheroes, we could match up completely unrelated civilisations and see who kicks ass harder, like pirates and ninjas, or cavemen and modern man, or vikings and zulus – it’d be so awesome! And we could even pretend to use science – it doesn’t have to be correct, but it’d look so cool!’ LOL There’s something kinda sad about that, but at the same time it does provide even more fodder to laugh our asses off at :)

  • XSketch

    *snort* I soooo can’t get the David Wenham Ordering Pizza dialogue out of my head now LOL

    Clearly the creators of this show were sat around one day, stoned out of their heads, debating the eternal dilemma of who would win in a fight, Superman or Batman, and one of them turned round and said ‘Dude, we should so totally find out the answer and make it into a whole TV series! But, instead of just superheroes, we could match up completely unrelated civilisations and see who kicks ass harder, like pirates and ninjas, or cavemen and modern man, or vikings and zulus – it’d be so awesome! And we could even pretend to use science – it doesn’t have to be correct, but it’d look so cool!’ LOL There’s something kinda sad about that, but at the same time it does provide even more fodder to laugh our asses off at :)

  • XSketch

    *snort* I soooo can’t get the David Wenham Ordering Pizza dialogue out of my head now LOL

    Clearly the creators of this show were sat around one day, stoned out of their heads, debating the eternal dilemma of who would win in a fight, Superman or Batman, and one of them turned round and said ‘Dude, we should so totally find out the answer and make it into a whole TV series! But, instead of just superheroes, we could match up completely unrelated civilisations and see who kicks ass harder, like pirates and ninjas, or cavemen and modern man, or vikings and zulus – it’d be so awesome! And we could even pretend to use science – it doesn’t have to be correct, but it’d look so cool!’ LOL There’s something kinda sad about that, but at the same time it does provide even more fodder to laugh our asses off at :)

  • alucard275

    Even watching trailers for the show, I knew that the premise was utterly pointless. I admire wanting to come up with a new idea, but come on, this has got to be the stoner’s dream. Besides, I think the Apache would win because their lives were constantly in danger, the gladiator was a showman, like you said.

    And really, is there ever such a thing as a fair fight?

  • alucard275

    Even watching trailers for the show, I knew that the premise was utterly pointless. I admire wanting to come up with a new idea, but come on, this has got to be the stoner’s dream. Besides, I think the Apache would win because their lives were constantly in danger, the gladiator was a showman, like you said.

    And really, is there ever such a thing as a fair fight?

  • Gauphastus

    Laughed my ass off at the pizza ordering part.
    I could totally hear it.

  • Gauphastus

    Laughed my ass off at the pizza ordering part.
    I could totally hear it.

  • Gauphastus

    Laughed my ass off at the pizza ordering part.
    I could totally hear it.

  • Gauphastus

    Laughed my ass off at the pizza ordering part.
    I could totally hear it.

  • Zalaralith

    I imagine samurai vs knight will be an even bigger shitstorm.

  • Zalaralith

    I imagine samurai vs knight will be an even bigger shitstorm.

  • Zalaralith

    I imagine samurai vs knight will be an even bigger shitstorm.

  • Zalaralith

    I imagine samurai vs knight will be an even bigger shitstorm.

  • Anonymous

    I just love how the apache dude got pissed off, when the gladiator fighting instructor dissed the tomahawk as a long distance weapon….

    Instructor: Who would throw away their weapon anyway? I mean, that’s a great Hollywood invention. Throw away your weapon. I hope… I’m glad you’re accurate with that weapon, because as soon as you throw it, that weapon is.. is worthless. You.. you might as well throw it away, it’s not doing any good.
    Apache: An apache will not throw all his tomahawks. He’s saving his last tomahawk to take your head off….

    Gotta love that apache dude… :D

  • Anonymous

    I just love how the apache dude got pissed off, when the gladiator fighting instructor dissed the tomahawk as a long distance weapon….

    Instructor: Who would throw away their weapon anyway? I mean, that’s a great Hollywood invention. Throw away your weapon. I hope… I’m glad you’re accurate with that weapon, because as soon as you throw it, that weapon is.. is worthless. You.. you might as well throw it away, it’s not doing any good.
    Apache: An apache will not throw all his tomahawks. He’s saving his last tomahawk to take your head off….

    Gotta love that apache dude… :D

  • Cthulhu07

    I just love how the apache dude got pissed off, when the gladiator fighting instructor dissed the tomahawk as a long distance weapon….

    Instructor: Who would throw away their weapon anyway? I mean, that’s a great Hollywood invention. Throw away your weapon. I hope… I’m glad you’re accurate with that weapon, because as soon as you throw it, that weapon is.. is worthless. You.. you might as well throw it away, it’s not doing any good.
    Apache: An apache will not throw all his tomahawks. He’s saving his last tomahawk to take your head off….

    Gotta love that apache dude… :D

  • Tai MT

    Never bothered watching the show. Never been interested in it.

    I tend to watch things like “Battle 360″ or whatever it’s called where they analyze everything about a battle and why it ended up the way it did.

    They used to run a show a long time ago that dealt specifically with ancient battles and how evenly or unevenly the forces were matched up. That show was downright amazing.

  • Tai MT

    Never bothered watching the show. Never been interested in it.

    I tend to watch things like “Battle 360″ or whatever it’s called where they analyze everything about a battle and why it ended up the way it did.

    They used to run a show a long time ago that dealt specifically with ancient battles and how evenly or unevenly the forces were matched up. That show was downright amazing.

  • Rikun

    Finally! Someone else is talking about the show! Yeah I’ll admit it’s insanely stupid, but it’s a lot of fun as well.

    Bad news though. If I am to believe the list of future episodes, there is NO pirate vs. ninja. You heard me. NO PIRATE VS NINJA. They do use pirates and ninja, but they’re in different matchups. The future matchups are as follows:

    Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan

    So this show specializes in ridiculous anachronistic warrior battles and they BOTCH the opportunity to settle once and for all the ultimate anachronistic known for years?! In the words of Yahtzee, “WHAT……ARBITRARY…….SILLINESS!!!!!”

  • Rikun

    Finally! Someone else is talking about the show! Yeah I’ll admit it’s insanely stupid, but it’s a lot of fun as well.

    Bad news though. If I am to believe the list of future episodes, there is NO pirate vs. ninja. You heard me. NO PIRATE VS NINJA. They do use pirates and ninja, but they’re in different matchups. The future matchups are as follows:

    Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan

    So this show specializes in ridiculous anachronistic warrior battles and they BOTCH the opportunity to settle once and for all the ultimate anachronistic known for years?! In the words of Yahtzee, “WHAT……ARBITRARY…….SILLINESS!!!!!”

  • Rikun

    Finally! Someone else is talking about the show! Yeah I’ll admit it’s insanely stupid, but it’s a lot of fun as well.

    Bad news though. If I am to believe the list of future episodes, there is NO pirate vs. ninja. You heard me. NO PIRATE VS NINJA. They do use pirates and ninja, but they’re in different matchups. The future matchups are as follows:

    Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan

    So this show specializes in ridiculous anachronistic warrior battles and they BOTCH the opportunity to settle once and for all the ultimate anachronistic known for years?! In the words of Yahtzee, “WHAT……ARBITRARY…….SILLINESS!!!!!”

  • Rikun

    Finally! Someone else is talking about the show! Yeah I’ll admit it’s insanely stupid, but it’s a lot of fun as well.

    Bad news though. If I am to believe the list of future episodes, there is NO pirate vs. ninja. You heard me. NO PIRATE VS NINJA. They do use pirates and ninja, but they’re in different matchups. The future matchups are as follows:

    Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan

    So this show specializes in ridiculous anachronistic warrior battles and they BOTCH the opportunity to settle once and for all the ultimate anachronistic known for years?! In the words of Yahtzee, “WHAT……ARBITRARY…….SILLINESS!!!!!”

  • kidpeligro83

    kind of reminds me of that show ( I think it was called animal vs animal). The cut scenes though are cheesy as hell and that Dr was a dumbass. He reminds me of how John Madden always states the obvious.

  • kidpeligro83

    kind of reminds me of that show ( I think it was called animal vs animal). The cut scenes though are cheesy as hell and that Dr was a dumbass. He reminds me of how John Madden always states the obvious.

  • kidpeligro83

    kind of reminds me of that show ( I think it was called animal vs animal). The cut scenes though are cheesy as hell and that Dr was a dumbass. He reminds me of how John Madden always states the obvious.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Level1Slime Level 1 Slime

    It’s just like the console wars. :D “We’re deadlier!” “Nuh-uh, we’re way more deadlier, you suck!” “We’re more deadlier than all you put together, so there!”

    Screw the historical “what if” crap, I just wanna see the apache dude clunk that one douche in the head with a tomahawk, now that’s entertainment.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Level1Slime Level 1 Slime

    It’s just like the console wars. :D “We’re deadlier!” “Nuh-uh, we’re way more deadlier, you suck!” “We’re more deadlier than all you put together, so there!”

    Screw the historical “what if” crap, I just wanna see the apache dude clunk that one douche in the head with a tomahawk, now that’s entertainment.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Level1Slime Level 1 Slime

    It’s just like the console wars. :D “We’re deadlier!” “Nuh-uh, we’re way more deadlier, you suck!” “We’re more deadlier than all you put together, so there!”

    Screw the historical “what if” crap, I just wanna see the apache dude clunk that one douche in the head with a tomahawk, now that’s entertainment.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Level1Slime Level 1 Slime

    It’s just like the console wars. :D “We’re deadlier!” “Nuh-uh, we’re way more deadlier, you suck!” “We’re more deadlier than all you put together, so there!”

    Screw the historical “what if” crap, I just wanna see the apache dude clunk that one douche in the head with a tomahawk, now that’s entertainment.

  • Gen

    We have a similar sort of “Science”-Show here in Germany and they actually did an “Elite Soldier vs. Ninja” episode (okay, no pirate, but it’s pretty close in terms of bullshit): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmag7mV4_g
    Though, i don’t remember who “won”…

  • Gen

    We have a similar sort of “Science”-Show here in Germany and they actually did an “Elite Soldier vs. Ninja” episode (okay, no pirate, but it’s pretty close in terms of bullshit): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmag7mV4_g
    Though, i don’t remember who “won”…

  • Gen

    We have a similar sort of “Science”-Show here in Germany and they actually did an “Elite Soldier vs. Ninja” episode (okay, no pirate, but it’s pretty close in terms of bullshit): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmag7mV4_g
    Though, i don’t remember who “won”…

  • http://stinkehund@deviantart.com Gen

    We have a similar sort of “Science”-Show here in Germany and they actually did an “Elite Soldier vs. Ninja” episode (okay, no pirate, but it’s pretty close in terms of bullshit): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTmag7mV4_g
    Though, i don’t remember who “won”…

  • DeathsHead419

    Ok, where did this Pirate vs. Ninja thing come from? What type of pirate? A Somali pirate with an AK-47 or some roman era one with an ax? Pirates have always been around, and in all different froms from all different cultures. So I’ll put my money group of somali pirates with automatic weapons. Why not? They’re still pirates, so nobody could call foul.

  • DeathsHead419

    Ok, where did this Pirate vs. Ninja thing come from? What type of pirate? A Somali pirate with an AK-47 or some roman era one with an ax? Pirates have always been around, and in all different froms from all different cultures. So I’ll put my money group of somali pirates with automatic weapons. Why not? They’re still pirates, so nobody could call foul.

  • XSketch

    “Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan”

    Seriously, whatever these people were smoking when they put the show together, it was clearly a bad batch! LOL “Taliban vs. IRA”??? *rolls eyes*

  • XSketch

    “Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan”

    Seriously, whatever these people were smoking when they put the show together, it was clearly a bad batch! LOL “Taliban vs. IRA”??? *rolls eyes*

  • XSketch

    “Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan”

    Seriously, whatever these people were smoking when they put the show together, it was clearly a bad batch! LOL “Taliban vs. IRA”??? *rolls eyes*

  • XSketch

    “Pirate vs. Knight
    Taliban vs. IRA
    Yakuza vs. Mafia
    Viking vs. Samurai
    Green Beret vs. Spetznaz
    Maori vs. Shaolin Monk
    William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu
    Ninja vs. Spartan”

    Seriously, whatever these people were smoking when they put the show together, it was clearly a bad batch! LOL “Taliban vs. IRA”??? *rolls eyes*

  • RageTreb

    It took me a while to figure out you were talking about the Native American Apache and not the helicopter…

  • RageTreb

    It took me a while to figure out you were talking about the Native American Apache and not the helicopter…

  • RageTreb

    It took me a while to figure out you were talking about the Native American Apache and not the helicopter…

  • aaa

    I’d like to see a fight between a guy from the KGB and a gal from the Mossad.

  • aaa

    I’d like to see a fight between a guy from the KGB and a gal from the Mossad.

  • aaa

    I’d like to see a fight between a guy from the KGB and a gal from the Mossad.

  • http://whiterosebrian.deviantart.com/ Brian

    I meant to ask when you planned to repost more textual reviews and whether you’re focusing only videos, but I just saw that you just did. Thank you, Noah. Of course, I completely understand and accept the fact that you have rising duties in real life.

  • http://whiterosebrian.deviantart.com/ Brian

    I meant to ask when you planned to repost more textual reviews and whether you’re focusing only videos, but I just saw that you just did. Thank you, Noah. Of course, I completely understand and accept the fact that you have rising duties in real life.

  • http://whiterosebrian.deviantart.com Brian

    I meant to ask when you planned to repost more textual reviews and whether you’re focusing only videos, but I just saw that you just did. Thank you, Noah. Of course, I completely understand and accept the fact that you have rising duties in real life.

  • Reyhan

    I totally agree. I will admit I did still somewhat like the show, yet they don’t even acknowledge battle tactics or that without the stupid net the trident is a weapon that probably will never work on a warrior like an Apache.

    Gladiators are cool but I highly doubt if one got shot in the side with an arrow he’d pull it out from the side and keep on going. The show is pretty much a historical UFC.

    My favorite part of the show is when the Gladiator historian mentions to the Apache’s how if he throws all of his tomahawks he’ll be dead. And the Apache Chief says quote “An Apache would not waste all of his tomahawks at once, he would save his last one to take your head off!”

    The fact that he said it with so much distain was awesome. I wish I would have seen the look on the guys face as he said that.

  • Reyhan

    I totally agree. I will admit I did still somewhat like the show, yet they don’t even acknowledge battle tactics or that without the stupid net the trident is a weapon that probably will never work on a warrior like an Apache.

    Gladiators are cool but I highly doubt if one got shot in the side with an arrow he’d pull it out from the side and keep on going. The show is pretty much a historical UFC.

    My favorite part of the show is when the Gladiator historian mentions to the Apache’s how if he throws all of his tomahawks he’ll be dead. And the Apache Chief says quote “An Apache would not waste all of his tomahawks at once, he would save his last one to take your head off!”

    The fact that he said it with so much distain was awesome. I wish I would have seen the look on the guys face as he said that.

  • Reyhan

    I totally agree. I will admit I did still somewhat like the show, yet they don’t even acknowledge battle tactics or that without the stupid net the trident is a weapon that probably will never work on a warrior like an Apache.

    Gladiators are cool but I highly doubt if one got shot in the side with an arrow he’d pull it out from the side and keep on going. The show is pretty much a historical UFC.

    My favorite part of the show is when the Gladiator historian mentions to the Apache’s how if he throws all of his tomahawks he’ll be dead. And the Apache Chief says quote “An Apache would not waste all of his tomahawks at once, he would save his last one to take your head off!”

    The fact that he said it with so much distain was awesome. I wish I would have seen the look on the guys face as he said that.

  • Reyhan

    I totally agree. I will admit I did still somewhat like the show, yet they don’t even acknowledge battle tactics or that without the stupid net the trident is a weapon that probably will never work on a warrior like an Apache.

    Gladiators are cool but I highly doubt if one got shot in the side with an arrow he’d pull it out from the side and keep on going. The show is pretty much a historical UFC.

    My favorite part of the show is when the Gladiator historian mentions to the Apache’s how if he throws all of his tomahawks he’ll be dead. And the Apache Chief says quote “An Apache would not waste all of his tomahawks at once, he would save his last one to take your head off!”

    The fact that he said it with so much distain was awesome. I wish I would have seen the look on the guys face as he said that.

  • http://www.stormsignal.net/ The Illusion

    Nice article, buddy.

    I trust your opinion enough not to watch this show now. From this and what else I’ve heard, it doesn’t
    sound that interesting. It sounds quite lame.

  • http://www.stormsignal.net/ The Illusion

    Nice article, buddy.

    I trust your opinion enough not to watch this show now. From this and what else I’ve heard, it doesn’t
    sound that interesting. It sounds quite lame.

  • http://www.stormsignal.net/ The Illusion

    Nice article, buddy.

    I trust your opinion enough not to watch this show now. From this and what else I’ve heard, it doesn’t
    sound that interesting. It sounds quite lame.

  • http://www.stormsignal.net The Illusion

    Nice article, buddy.

    I trust your opinion enough not to watch this show now. From this and what else I’ve heard, it doesn’t
    sound that interesting. It sounds quite lame.

  • RocketSurgeon

    This sounds a lot like Discovery’s Animal Face-Off.

    Only worse.

    Cool.

  • RocketSurgeon

    This sounds a lot like Discovery’s Animal Face-Off.

    Only worse.

    Cool.

  • RocketSurgeon

    This sounds a lot like Discovery’s Animal Face-Off.

    Only worse.

    Cool.

  • RocketSurgeon

    This sounds a lot like Discovery’s Animal Face-Off.

    Only worse.

    Cool.

  • Man With A Plan

    Just looked it up on YouTube. Priceless. Two guys who were representing apaches were meanies. lol

  • Man With A Plan

    Just looked it up on YouTube. Priceless. Two guys who were representing apaches were meanies. lol

  • God Of Plague

    I loved the anachronism Game Robert Bruts for the win!

  • God Of Plague

    I loved the anachronism Game Robert Bruts for the win!

  • God Of Plague

    I loved the anachronism Game Robert Bruts for the win!

  • God Of Plague

    I loved the anachronism Game Robert Bruts for the win!

  • JTurnblat

    I caught this show 30 minutes in and I found it a worthwhile watch, whilst multi-tasking of course. It was entertaining but I can see where they fell short on further education. I didn’t know the long-haired Apache man worked in Special Ops. I did catch that he was a world champion knife fighter, though, and he was a true badass. Best guy on the show, I’m glad the Apache warrior won in the battle of statistics just to see those gladiator fans get taken down a peg.

    Does anyone here play Heroscape? The recently-announced Wave 9 includes a pack titled “Braves and Brawlers”. Going by past statements, the Braves are clearly going to be Native American warriors (but will they be Apache?), and could the Brawlers be the long-awaited-and-pined-for gladiator squad? That would be so eerie, and awesome, because we’ve wanted a gladiator squad for a LOOOOOONG time to make Spartacus worth his high cost.

  • JTurnblat

    I caught this show 30 minutes in and I found it a worthwhile watch, whilst multi-tasking of course. It was entertaining but I can see where they fell short on further education. I didn’t know the long-haired Apache man worked in Special Ops. I did catch that he was a world champion knife fighter, though, and he was a true badass. Best guy on the show, I’m glad the Apache warrior won in the battle of statistics just to see those gladiator fans get taken down a peg.

    Does anyone here play Heroscape? The recently-announced Wave 9 includes a pack titled “Braves and Brawlers”. Going by past statements, the Braves are clearly going to be Native American warriors (but will they be Apache?), and could the Brawlers be the long-awaited-and-pined-for gladiator squad? That would be so eerie, and awesome, because we’ve wanted a gladiator squad for a LOOOOOONG time to make Spartacus worth his high cost.

  • JTurnblat

    I caught this show 30 minutes in and I found it a worthwhile watch, whilst multi-tasking of course. It was entertaining but I can see where they fell short on further education. I didn’t know the long-haired Apache man worked in Special Ops. I did catch that he was a world champion knife fighter, though, and he was a true badass. Best guy on the show, I’m glad the Apache warrior won in the battle of statistics just to see those gladiator fans get taken down a peg.

    Does anyone here play Heroscape? The recently-announced Wave 9 includes a pack titled “Braves and Brawlers”. Going by past statements, the Braves are clearly going to be Native American warriors (but will they be Apache?), and could the Brawlers be the long-awaited-and-pined-for gladiator squad? That would be so eerie, and awesome, because we’ve wanted a gladiator squad for a LOOOOOONG time to make Spartacus worth his high cost.

  • JTurnblat

    I caught this show 30 minutes in and I found it a worthwhile watch, whilst multi-tasking of course. It was entertaining but I can see where they fell short on further education. I didn’t know the long-haired Apache man worked in Special Ops. I did catch that he was a world champion knife fighter, though, and he was a true badass. Best guy on the show, I’m glad the Apache warrior won in the battle of statistics just to see those gladiator fans get taken down a peg.

    Does anyone here play Heroscape? The recently-announced Wave 9 includes a pack titled “Braves and Brawlers”. Going by past statements, the Braves are clearly going to be Native American warriors (but will they be Apache?), and could the Brawlers be the long-awaited-and-pined-for gladiator squad? That would be so eerie, and awesome, because we’ve wanted a gladiator squad for a LOOOOOONG time to make Spartacus worth his high cost.

  • anonymous

    what the hell, spoony is a fucking good writer, until now I’ve only watched his vids. Do like.

  • anonymous

    what the hell, spoony is a fucking good writer, until now I’ve only watched his vids. Do like.

  • anonymous

    what the hell, spoony is a fucking good writer, until now I’ve only watched his vids. Do like.

  • anonymous

    what the hell, spoony is a fucking good writer, until now I’ve only watched his vids. Do like.

  • Sirabhorn

    Wow David Wenham? Doing 300 style narration? That IS reason enough to watch! They NEED to have a Spartan warrior as one of the guys now.

  • Sirabhorn

    Wow David Wenham? Doing 300 style narration? That IS reason enough to watch! They NEED to have a Spartan warrior as one of the guys now.

  • Sirabhorn

    Wow David Wenham? Doing 300 style narration? That IS reason enough to watch! They NEED to have a Spartan warrior as one of the guys now.

  • Sirabhorn

    Wow David Wenham? Doing 300 style narration? That IS reason enough to watch! They NEED to have a Spartan warrior as one of the guys now.

  • Mel

    I saw the show and guess I was a little more open minded than you. I’ve done computer programming, martial arts, love war history, and am ex military. Granted, they did exagerrate the bit about gladiators a little, but otherwise, I liked the show. BTW, gladiators did fight to the death more often than not.

    All things considered (especially since this is a new show), it is not a bad show in my opinion.

  • Mel

    I saw the show and guess I was a little more open minded than you. I’ve done computer programming, martial arts, love war history, and am ex military. Granted, they did exagerrate the bit about gladiators a little, but otherwise, I liked the show. BTW, gladiators did fight to the death more often than not.

    All things considered (especially since this is a new show), it is not a bad show in my opinion.

  • Mel

    I saw the show and guess I was a little more open minded than you. I’ve done computer programming, martial arts, love war history, and am ex military. Granted, they did exagerrate the bit about gladiators a little, but otherwise, I liked the show. BTW, gladiators did fight to the death more often than not.

    All things considered (especially since this is a new show), it is not a bad show in my opinion.

  • Mel

    I saw the show and guess I was a little more open minded than you. I’ve done computer programming, martial arts, love war history, and am ex military. Granted, they did exagerrate the bit about gladiators a little, but otherwise, I liked the show. BTW, gladiators did fight to the death more often than not.

    All things considered (especially since this is a new show), it is not a bad show in my opinion.

  • WebVidAddict

    Loved to order a pizza in that voice

  • WebVidAddict

    Loved to order a pizza in that voice

  • Masticina Akicta

    I saw the version with animals and yeah..Tiger versus…erm shark? Yeah very probable!

    This isn’t even Edutainment it is tainment but lame. That and really erm I don’t like it when they over do CGI, A CGI fight at the end, yeah great idea..nah.. I rather see The Greatest Weapons, at least that tells you about where weapons come from and what use they had.

  • Masticina Akicta

    I saw the version with animals and yeah..Tiger versus…erm shark? Yeah very probable!

    This isn’t even Edutainment it is tainment but lame. That and really erm I don’t like it when they over do CGI, A CGI fight at the end, yeah great idea..nah.. I rather see The Greatest Weapons, at least that tells you about where weapons come from and what use they had.

  • Masticina Akicta

    I saw the version with animals and yeah..Tiger versus…erm shark? Yeah very probable!

    This isn’t even Edutainment it is tainment but lame. That and really erm I don’t like it when they over do CGI, A CGI fight at the end, yeah great idea..nah.. I rather see The Greatest Weapons, at least that tells you about where weapons come from and what use they had.

  • Masticina Akicta

    I saw the version with animals and yeah..Tiger versus…erm shark? Yeah very probable!

    This isn’t even Edutainment it is tainment but lame. That and really erm I don’t like it when they over do CGI, A CGI fight at the end, yeah great idea..nah.. I rather see The Greatest Weapons, at least that tells you about where weapons come from and what use they had.

  • dakkster

    After reading this, I just had to download the ep and watch it. Goddamn! Pure entertainment. Ridiculous, but still entertainment. Gotta love that voiceover, especially how he throws down and announces the gladiator weapons. “the SICA!” Wonderful :)

  • dakkster

    After reading this, I just had to download the ep and watch it. Goddamn! Pure entertainment. Ridiculous, but still entertainment. Gotta love that voiceover, especially how he throws down and announces the gladiator weapons. “the SICA!” Wonderful :)

  • dakkster

    After reading this, I just had to download the ep and watch it. Goddamn! Pure entertainment. Ridiculous, but still entertainment. Gotta love that voiceover, especially how he throws down and announces the gladiator weapons. “the SICA!” Wonderful :)

  • dakkster

    After reading this, I just had to download the ep and watch it. Goddamn! Pure entertainment. Ridiculous, but still entertainment. Gotta love that voiceover, especially how he throws down and announces the gladiator weapons. “the SICA!” Wonderful :)

  • BobCat

    Almost makes me wish I had G4. It sounds like with a bit more research and the right hosts, it could be a bloody Myth Busters.

  • BobCat

    Almost makes me wish I had G4. It sounds like with a bit more research and the right hosts, it could be a bloody Myth Busters.

  • BobCat

    Almost makes me wish I had G4. It sounds like with a bit more research and the right hosts, it could be a bloody Myth Busters.

  • Irasthoum

    I think I have watched the first season of the show, who was more intelligent that version. It was about actual martial art and to discover who was the best fighting skill, who have the best punch, kick, the best weapon, etc… except the fact it was a documentary for pre-school – to much focusing to show you CGI and other “cool” stuff, and less information – it was a good show and interesting in the end. Now this version seem to suck, not because of the anachronism – which I don’t think is a real problem considering this martial art are extincted, and is exactly the point of the show – but because the comparison is impossible in term of space. We have a fighter who train for war, and so he use is environment as a weapon, he need to cover behind rock, to climb threes, etc… and the other fight in a empty arena, where he can only use is weapon. Is like making a comparison between a uzi and and a sniper.

  • Irasthoum

    I think I have watched the first season of the show, who was more intelligent that version. It was about actual martial art and to discover who was the best fighting skill, who have the best punch, kick, the best weapon, etc… except the fact it was a documentary for pre-school – to much focusing to show you CGI and other “cool” stuff, and less information – it was a good show and interesting in the end. Now this version seem to suck, not because of the anachronism – which I don’t think is a real problem considering this martial art are extincted, and is exactly the point of the show – but because the comparison is impossible in term of space. We have a fighter who train for war, and so he use is environment as a weapon, he need to cover behind rock, to climb threes, etc… and the other fight in a empty arena, where he can only use is weapon. Is like making a comparison between a uzi and and a sniper.

  • Irasthoum

    I think I have watched the first season of the show, who was more intelligent that version. It was about actual martial art and to discover who was the best fighting skill, who have the best punch, kick, the best weapon, etc… except the fact it was a documentary for pre-school – to much focusing to show you CGI and other “cool” stuff, and less information – it was a good show and interesting in the end. Now this version seem to suck, not because of the anachronism – which I don’t think is a real problem considering this martial art are extincted, and is exactly the point of the show – but because the comparison is impossible in term of space. We have a fighter who train for war, and so he use is environment as a weapon, he need to cover behind rock, to climb threes, etc… and the other fight in a empty arena, where he can only use is weapon. Is like making a comparison between a uzi and and a sniper.

  • Rain

    Oh, Hollywood. So much to answer for.

    Pirates vs. ninjas is another no-brainer.

  • Rain

    Oh, Hollywood. So much to answer for.

    Pirates vs. ninjas is another no-brainer.

  • Rain

    Oh, Hollywood. So much to answer for.

    Pirates vs. ninjas is another no-brainer.

  • Rain

    Oh, Hollywood. So much to answer for.

    Pirates vs. ninjas is another no-brainer.

  • HeartBurnKid

    This sounds freaking hilarious and awesome.

    MUST. WATCH.

  • HeartBurnKid

    This sounds freaking hilarious and awesome.

    MUST. WATCH.

  • HeartBurnKid

    This sounds freaking hilarious and awesome.

    MUST. WATCH.

  • HeartBurnKid

    This sounds freaking hilarious and awesome.

    MUST. WATCH.

  • Nolan

    Haha, sounds awesome.

    As for who would win, it depends on a metric assload of factors.

    -Are they fighting face-to-face or in a forest?
    -What equipment set is the gladiator using?
    -Are we talking someone who’s been in the ring a long time, or some poor prisoner thrown into the ring?

    Really it’s a pretty pointless matchup. They should really get the experts to suit up and fight it out. THAT would be entertainment.

  • Nolan

    Haha, sounds awesome.

    As for who would win, it depends on a metric assload of factors.

    -Are they fighting face-to-face or in a forest?
    -What equipment set is the gladiator using?
    -Are we talking someone who’s been in the ring a long time, or some poor prisoner thrown into the ring?

    Really it’s a pretty pointless matchup. They should really get the experts to suit up and fight it out. THAT would be entertainment.

  • Nolan

    Haha, sounds awesome.

    As for who would win, it depends on a metric assload of factors.

    -Are they fighting face-to-face or in a forest?
    -What equipment set is the gladiator using?
    -Are we talking someone who’s been in the ring a long time, or some poor prisoner thrown into the ring?

    Really it’s a pretty pointless matchup. They should really get the experts to suit up and fight it out. THAT would be entertainment.

  • Nolan

    Haha, sounds awesome.

    As for who would win, it depends on a metric assload of factors.

    -Are they fighting face-to-face or in a forest?
    -What equipment set is the gladiator using?
    -Are we talking someone who’s been in the ring a long time, or some poor prisoner thrown into the ring?

    Really it’s a pretty pointless matchup. They should really get the experts to suit up and fight it out. THAT would be entertainment.

  • altorin

    I loved the show for all the same reasons. I basically am that stoner that sits around and laughs and says things like “who’d win in a fight?”.. Plus, the show is basically the same deal the discovery channel did with animals – pitting two animals against one another who had no business fighting one another and doing a bunch of BS tests to determine which would win in the fight, then showing a Reinactment of the fight.. it’s basically the same show, except with different archetypical human warriors.

    I knew the whole time the apache was going to win, and I’m looking forward to episode 2 – Viking vs Samurai… that’s fucking hilarious :P

  • altorin

    I loved the show for all the same reasons. I basically am that stoner that sits around and laughs and says things like “who’d win in a fight?”.. Plus, the show is basically the same deal the discovery channel did with animals – pitting two animals against one another who had no business fighting one another and doing a bunch of BS tests to determine which would win in the fight, then showing a Reinactment of the fight.. it’s basically the same show, except with different archetypical human warriors.

    I knew the whole time the apache was going to win, and I’m looking forward to episode 2 – Viking vs Samurai… that’s fucking hilarious :P

  • altorin

    I loved the show for all the same reasons. I basically am that stoner that sits around and laughs and says things like “who’d win in a fight?”.. Plus, the show is basically the same deal the discovery channel did with animals – pitting two animals against one another who had no business fighting one another and doing a bunch of BS tests to determine which would win in the fight, then showing a Reinactment of the fight.. it’s basically the same show, except with different archetypical human warriors.

    I knew the whole time the apache was going to win, and I’m looking forward to episode 2 – Viking vs Samurai… that’s fucking hilarious :P

  • altorin

    I loved the show for all the same reasons. I basically am that stoner that sits around and laughs and says things like “who’d win in a fight?”.. Plus, the show is basically the same deal the discovery channel did with animals – pitting two animals against one another who had no business fighting one another and doing a bunch of BS tests to determine which would win in the fight, then showing a Reinactment of the fight.. it’s basically the same show, except with different archetypical human warriors.

    I knew the whole time the apache was going to win, and I’m looking forward to episode 2 – Viking vs Samurai… that’s fucking hilarious :P

  • Brandon

    I watched the show as well and I thought the same thing. My favorite was how pissed some of them were getting at eachother towards the end. My dad can beat up your dad. Was pretty retarded.

  • Brandon

    I watched the show as well and I thought the same thing. My favorite was how pissed some of them were getting at eachother towards the end. My dad can beat up your dad. Was pretty retarded.

  • Stingray

    Being German i didn’t watch that show, but it sounds awfully similiar to a crap show we had on one of our channels, where they had a competition between a Ninja and a German Special Forces soldier (Kommando Spezialkräfte). That was really stupid!

  • Stingray

    Being German i didn’t watch that show, but it sounds awfully similiar to a crap show we had on one of our channels, where they had a competition between a Ninja and a German Special Forces soldier (Kommando Spezialkräfte). That was really stupid!

  • Stingray

    Being German i didn’t watch that show, but it sounds awfully similiar to a crap show we had on one of our channels, where they had a competition between a Ninja and a German Special Forces soldier (Kommando Spezialkräfte). That was really stupid!

  • Stingray

    Being German i didn’t watch that show, but it sounds awfully similiar to a crap show we had on one of our channels, where they had a competition between a Ninja and a German Special Forces soldier (Kommando Spezialkräfte). That was really stupid!

  • Anonymous

    The minute I read the part that said “What if, like, a gladiator fought an Apache?”, my brains started screaming “PIRATE VERSUS NINJA!!!”

  • Saisinkolimonadin

    The minute I read the part that said “What if, like, a gladiator fought an Apache?”, my brains started screaming “PIRATE VERSUS NINJA!!!”

  • espinete

    IT’S SOUL CALIBUR, NOT CALIBER!! They use swords, not guns.

  • espinete

    IT’S SOUL CALIBUR, NOT CALIBER!! They use swords, not guns.

  • espinete

    IT’S SOUL CALIBUR, NOT CALIBER!! They use swords, not guns.

  • espinete

    IT’S SOUL CALIBUR, NOT CALIBER!! They use swords, not guns.

  • Mae Aloril

    If and when they do a pirate vs ninja special you must must must give us the low down. I can just imagine the hordes of irate fan boys storming the production company’s gates no matter what decision is made. Mwahaha complete anarchy.

  • Mae Aloril

    If and when they do a pirate vs ninja special you must must must give us the low down. I can just imagine the hordes of irate fan boys storming the production company’s gates no matter what decision is made. Mwahaha complete anarchy.

  • Mae Aloril

    If and when they do a pirate vs ninja special you must must must give us the low down. I can just imagine the hordes of irate fan boys storming the production company’s gates no matter what decision is made. Mwahaha complete anarchy.

  • Mae Aloril

    If and when they do a pirate vs ninja special you must must must give us the low down. I can just imagine the hordes of irate fan boys storming the production company’s gates no matter what decision is made. Mwahaha complete anarchy.

  • Peter

    Spoony, I don’t know your email, so I really hope you see this. I got an idea to help promote you.

    I’m sure many of us are on other various forums on the Internet and I think it would be great if you had little tabs (or even sigs) that we can put in our signatures and link to the site. You never know when someone is going to be curious and then become another fan :P

    Anyway, if we can do that, I think it would be awesome.

  • Peter

    Spoony, I don’t know your email, so I really hope you see this. I got an idea to help promote you.

    I’m sure many of us are on other various forums on the Internet and I think it would be great if you had little tabs (or even sigs) that we can put in our signatures and link to the site. You never know when someone is going to be curious and then become another fan :P

    Anyway, if we can do that, I think it would be awesome.

  • Peter

    Spoony, I don’t know your email, so I really hope you see this. I got an idea to help promote you.

    I’m sure many of us are on other various forums on the Internet and I think it would be great if you had little tabs (or even sigs) that we can put in our signatures and link to the site. You never know when someone is going to be curious and then become another fan :P

    Anyway, if we can do that, I think it would be awesome.

  • John D.

    FIrst off, there is no real written evidence on how the gladiators faught, similar to how there is scarce evidence of how the Roman Legions fought. What we have have is a Hollywood choreographer giving his own “theories” on gladitors, saying meathead things like, “they live to fight”. Ohh thank you wise one. Now how did they fight?

    In certain circles, Hollywood choreographers have a bad reputation for butchering the fighting styles of certain periods (especially the Medieval period), ignoring historical documents of the era. Instead showing people bashing the sh*t out of each other with zero finesse, which is completely inaccurate. To me (and many historians) their credibility is zero.

    Historical documents show that historical Europe had a pretty intricate fighting system, unfortunantly the oldest fighting manual in Europe is from the 13th century. (look up MS I.33) In other words, we really have no f*cking clue how Gladiator’s faught, we can only make muses based on the weapons and observer reports from the era, but no manual from an expert of that era.

    If I were to make an educated theory, I would assume that a Gladiator would have faught more like this if he was a trained solder at one time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4Ng6DBfrg&feature=channel_page (tweaked for a gladius instead of a longsword) or if he were a common criminal, just mindlessly hacked-and-slashed.

  • John D.

    FIrst off, there is no real written evidence on how the gladiators faught, similar to how there is scarce evidence of how the Roman Legions fought. What we have have is a Hollywood choreographer giving his own “theories” on gladitors, saying meathead things like, “they live to fight”. Ohh thank you wise one. Now how did they fight?

    In certain circles, Hollywood choreographers have a bad reputation for butchering the fighting styles of certain periods (especially the Medieval period), ignoring historical documents of the era. Instead showing people bashing the sh*t out of each other with zero finesse, which is completely inaccurate. To me (and many historians) their credibility is zero.

    Historical documents show that historical Europe had a pretty intricate fighting system, unfortunantly the oldest fighting manual in Europe is from the 13th century. (look up MS I.33) In other words, we really have no f*cking clue how Gladiator’s faught, we can only make muses based on the weapons and observer reports from the era, but no manual from an expert of that era.

    If I were to make an educated theory, I would assume that a Gladiator would have faught more like this if he was a trained solder at one time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4Ng6DBfrg&feature=channel_page (tweaked for a gladius instead of a longsword) or if he were a common criminal, just mindlessly hacked-and-slashed.

  • John D.

    FIrst off, there is no real written evidence on how the gladiators faught, similar to how there is scarce evidence of how the Roman Legions fought. What we have have is a Hollywood choreographer giving his own “theories” on gladitors, saying meathead things like, “they live to fight”. Ohh thank you wise one. Now how did they fight?

    In certain circles, Hollywood choreographers have a bad reputation for butchering the fighting styles of certain periods (especially the Medieval period), ignoring historical documents of the era. Instead showing people bashing the sh*t out of each other with zero finesse, which is completely inaccurate. To me (and many historians) their credibility is zero.

    Historical documents show that historical Europe had a pretty intricate fighting system, unfortunantly the oldest fighting manual in Europe is from the 13th century. (look up MS I.33) In other words, we really have no f*cking clue how Gladiator’s faught, we can only make muses based on the weapons and observer reports from the era, but no manual from an expert of that era.

    If I were to make an educated theory, I would assume that a Gladiator would have faught more like this if he was a trained solder at one time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4Ng6DBfrg&feature=channel_page (tweaked for a gladius instead of a longsword) or if he were a common criminal, just mindlessly hacked-and-slashed.

  • Anonymous

    Spoooooooony!!!! You should do a show on PIRATES VS NINJA!!!!!!!!! I think you would have a lot to say about it.

  • Anonymous

    Spoooooooony!!!! You should do a show on PIRATES VS NINJA!!!!!!!!! I think you would have a lot to say about it.

  • Anonymous

    Spoooooooony!!!! You should do a show on PIRATES VS NINJA!!!!!!!!! I think you would have a lot to say about it.

  • Will

    Spoooooooony!!!! You should do a show on PIRATES VS NINJA!!!!!!!!! I think you would have a lot to say about it.

  • Thomas

    John D., I think you’re misrepresenting facts as evidence. It may be a fact that we don’t have fighting manuals from that period. That in no way means that we’re ignorant of the lifestyle or even fighting style of Rome’s Gladiators; there are plenty of accounts from Citizens and guests of Rome that sat through gladiatorial events and recorded their opinions.

    Also, please spell check your comments when trying to sound scholarly.

  • Thomas

    John D., I think you’re misrepresenting facts as evidence. It may be a fact that we don’t have fighting manuals from that period. That in no way means that we’re ignorant of the lifestyle or even fighting style of Rome’s Gladiators; there are plenty of accounts from Citizens and guests of Rome that sat through gladiatorial events and recorded their opinions.

    Also, please spell check your comments when trying to sound scholarly.

  • Thomas

    John D., I think you’re misrepresenting facts as evidence. It may be a fact that we don’t have fighting manuals from that period. That in no way means that we’re ignorant of the lifestyle or even fighting style of Rome’s Gladiators; there are plenty of accounts from Citizens and guests of Rome that sat through gladiatorial events and recorded their opinions.

    Also, please spell check your comments when trying to sound scholarly.

  • Thomas

    John D., I think you’re misrepresenting facts as evidence. It may be a fact that we don’t have fighting manuals from that period. That in no way means that we’re ignorant of the lifestyle or even fighting style of Rome’s Gladiators; there are plenty of accounts from Citizens and guests of Rome that sat through gladiatorial events and recorded their opinions.

    Also, please spell check your comments when trying to sound scholarly.

  • John D.

    I think the use of words such as f*ck and sh*t makes it painfully obvious I’m not trying to sound scholarly. I think we can have a little more leeway on a freaking comment board for christs sake.

    How I am misrepresenting facts as evidence? I clearly stated that the earliest manual founded highlighting a detailed fighting system in Europe, giving instructions on how to fight, is only 800 years old at most. This doesn’t have to be from an expert (this one was written by a priest), it is simply the oldest living evidence. Now please, prove me wrong, because if you do, there is a group of histroical combat reanactors like the ARMA and AEMMA that would love to research your source material.

    That being said, my spelling abilities don’t discount the fact that there is no evidence towards the specifics of how they fought. Observer reports would be more interested in who was fighting and who won, not giving out a detailed fighting system. We know they swung swords and such. We don’t know the fighting stances they took and the techiniques used. If a detailed document existed, we would be using that instead.

    And yes, I can see where I misspelled words even without a spell checker, but I honestly hate backspacing unless absolutely necessary.

  • John D.

    I think the use of words such as f*ck and sh*t makes it painfully obvious I’m not trying to sound scholarly. I think we can have a little more leeway on a freaking comment board for christs sake.

    How I am misrepresenting facts as evidence? I clearly stated that the earliest manual founded highlighting a detailed fighting system in Europe, giving instructions on how to fight, is only 800 years old at most. This doesn’t have to be from an expert (this one was written by a priest), it is simply the oldest living evidence. Now please, prove me wrong, because if you do, there is a group of histroical combat reanactors like the ARMA and AEMMA that would love to research your source material.

    That being said, my spelling abilities don’t discount the fact that there is no evidence towards the specifics of how they fought. Observer reports would be more interested in who was fighting and who won, not giving out a detailed fighting system. We know they swung swords and such. We don’t know the fighting stances they took and the techiniques used. If a detailed document existed, we would be using that instead.

    And yes, I can see where I misspelled words even without a spell checker, but I honestly hate backspacing unless absolutely necessary.

  • John D.

    I think the use of words such as f*ck and sh*t makes it painfully obvious I’m not trying to sound scholarly. I think we can have a little more leeway on a freaking comment board for christs sake.

    How I am misrepresenting facts as evidence? I clearly stated that the earliest manual founded highlighting a detailed fighting system in Europe, giving instructions on how to fight, is only 800 years old at most. This doesn’t have to be from an expert (this one was written by a priest), it is simply the oldest living evidence. Now please, prove me wrong, because if you do, there is a group of histroical combat reanactors like the ARMA and AEMMA that would love to research your source material.

    That being said, my spelling abilities don’t discount the fact that there is no evidence towards the specifics of how they fought. Observer reports would be more interested in who was fighting and who won, not giving out a detailed fighting system. We know they swung swords and such. We don’t know the fighting stances they took and the techiniques used. If a detailed document existed, we would be using that instead.

    And yes, I can see where I misspelled words even without a spell checker, but I honestly hate backspacing unless absolutely necessary.

  • John D.

    I think the use of words such as f*ck and sh*t makes it painfully obvious I’m not trying to sound scholarly. I think we can have a little more leeway on a freaking comment board for christs sake.

    How I am misrepresenting facts as evidence? I clearly stated that the earliest manual founded highlighting a detailed fighting system in Europe, giving instructions on how to fight, is only 800 years old at most. This doesn’t have to be from an expert (this one was written by a priest), it is simply the oldest living evidence. Now please, prove me wrong, because if you do, there is a group of histroical combat reanactors like the ARMA and AEMMA that would love to research your source material.

    That being said, my spelling abilities don’t discount the fact that there is no evidence towards the specifics of how they fought. Observer reports would be more interested in who was fighting and who won, not giving out a detailed fighting system. We know they swung swords and such. We don’t know the fighting stances they took and the techiniques used. If a detailed document existed, we would be using that instead.

    And yes, I can see where I misspelled words even without a spell checker, but I honestly hate backspacing unless absolutely necessary.

  • John D.

    Also, if you are going to complain about someone’s grammar, coming off as trying to sound smart and smug in the process, don’t capitalize citizens on the same damn post.

  • John D.

    Also, if you are going to complain about someone’s grammar, coming off as trying to sound smart and smug in the process, don’t capitalize citizens on the same damn post.

  • John D.

    Also, if you are going to complain about someone’s grammar, coming off as trying to sound smart and smug in the process, don’t capitalize citizens on the same damn post.

  • Roflchoppa

    Saucer of milk, table 2, reow!

  • Roflchoppa

    Saucer of milk, table 2, reow!

  • Roflchoppa

    Saucer of milk, table 2, reow!

  • Roflchoppa

    Saucer of milk, table 2, reow!

  • http://www.rodenburgfilms.com/ Paul Rodenburg

    Too bad it wasn’t a Gladiator versus an Apache attack helicopter, now that’d be a cool fight… though admittedly short and one sided.

  • http://www.rodenburgfilms.com/ Paul Rodenburg

    Too bad it wasn’t a Gladiator versus an Apache attack helicopter, now that’d be a cool fight… though admittedly short and one sided.

  • http://www.rodenburgfilms.com/ Paul Rodenburg

    Too bad it wasn’t a Gladiator versus an Apache attack helicopter, now that’d be a cool fight… though admittedly short and one sided.

  • http://www.rodenburgfilms.com Paul Rodenburg

    Too bad it wasn’t a Gladiator versus an Apache attack helicopter, now that’d be a cool fight… though admittedly short and one sided.

  • http://dudeman.com/ dudeman

    DUDE. MAN. This show was RETARDED.
    GO APACHES!
    HOORAY!

  • http://dudeman.com/ dudeman

    DUDE. MAN. This show was RETARDED.
    GO APACHES!
    HOORAY!

  • http://dudeman.com dudeman

    DUDE. MAN. This show was RETARDED.
    GO APACHES!
    HOORAY!

  • http://orinbishop.blogspot.com/ Orin

    How about Batman versus A Guy With a Toboggan!
    “The toboggan can achieve speeds exceeding 30 miles an hour, but the batarang is capable of slicing through sheer wood.”

  • http://orinbishop.blogspot.com/ Orin

    How about Batman versus A Guy With a Toboggan!
    “The toboggan can achieve speeds exceeding 30 miles an hour, but the batarang is capable of slicing through sheer wood.”

  • http://orinbishop.blogspot.com/ Orin

    How about Batman versus A Guy With a Toboggan!
    “The toboggan can achieve speeds exceeding 30 miles an hour, but the batarang is capable of slicing through sheer wood.”

  • http://orinbishop.blogspot.com Orin

    How about Batman versus A Guy With a Toboggan!
    “The toboggan can achieve speeds exceeding 30 miles an hour, but the batarang is capable of slicing through sheer wood.”

  • Greymarch

    Next one is Vikings vs Samurai!

  • Greymarch

    Next one is Vikings vs Samurai!

  • Greymarch

    Next one is Vikings vs Samurai!

  • BlackHeart

    You got your matchups confused. The pirate will be facing off against a medieval knight and the ninja will be fighting a spartan.

  • BlackHeart

    You got your matchups confused. The pirate will be facing off against a medieval knight and the ninja will be fighting a spartan.

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s silly, but quasi-educational show ideas are few. There isn’t a sound scientific way to test any of this. The best that can be done is say, “yep, this guys weapon hurts more.”

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s silly, but quasi-educational show ideas are few. There isn’t a sound scientific way to test any of this. The best that can be done is say, “yep, this guys weapon hurts more.”

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s silly, but quasi-educational show ideas are few. There isn’t a sound scientific way to test any of this. The best that can be done is say, “yep, this guys weapon hurts more.”

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com Vaughn Fry

    It’s silly, but quasi-educational show ideas are few. There isn’t a sound scientific way to test any of this. The best that can be done is say, “yep, this guys weapon hurts more.”

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s on TV right now. Gotta love how that asshat’s job descriptions is that he’s a gladiator fighting consultant for Hollywood. Exactly what makes one an expert? As for the Apache, that guy was a badass straight up. I wonder what his credentials are? Hmmm, how about ACTUALLY BEING AN APACHE! I can see them having trouble finding better “experts” in later shows. They might be able to round up some Shaolin monks, but good luck finding a real life pirate or caveman.

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s on TV right now. Gotta love how that asshat’s job descriptions is that he’s a gladiator fighting consultant for Hollywood. Exactly what makes one an expert? As for the Apache, that guy was a badass straight up. I wonder what his credentials are? Hmmm, how about ACTUALLY BEING AN APACHE! I can see them having trouble finding better “experts” in later shows. They might be able to round up some Shaolin monks, but good luck finding a real life pirate or caveman.

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com/ Vaughn Fry

    It’s on TV right now. Gotta love how that asshat’s job descriptions is that he’s a gladiator fighting consultant for Hollywood. Exactly what makes one an expert? As for the Apache, that guy was a badass straight up. I wonder what his credentials are? Hmmm, how about ACTUALLY BEING AN APACHE! I can see them having trouble finding better “experts” in later shows. They might be able to round up some Shaolin monks, but good luck finding a real life pirate or caveman.

  • http://www.vaughnfry.com Vaughn Fry

    It’s on TV right now. Gotta love how that asshat’s job descriptions is that he’s a gladiator fighting consultant for Hollywood. Exactly what makes one an expert? As for the Apache, that guy was a badass straight up. I wonder what his credentials are? Hmmm, how about ACTUALLY BEING AN APACHE! I can see them having trouble finding better “experts” in later shows. They might be able to round up some Shaolin monks, but good luck finding a real life pirate or caveman.

  • Matthew

    I wish they had real gladiatorial experts in the show, and I wish the experts weren’t so cocksure, I couldn’t stand any of the experts on either side when they were talking to/about one another.. About the gladiator helmet.. That helmet was specifically designed to have its range of vision lowered, and not all gladiators used it (heck, a small fraction of them did), and when they did, it was equally balanced by having superior weaponry to the opponent, or some other handicap. Gladiator fights were also not always fights to the death.. They managed to hint at it, but in gladiatorial combat, if you killed your opponent when the emperor didn’t ask you to by showing a downwards thumb, then you were killed, so it wasn’t “Kill or be killed”.. it’s “Kill if the emperor wills it or be killed”. Very few of the combats were to the death, because, like they said, it takes a lot of effort to train an entertaining gladiator, and if the emperor’s favored lost a bout, he didn’t want to see them unable to exact revenge at a later date.

    For that matter, many gladiators weren’t even identified by name – like they also hinted at but never explained, gladiators were largely known by the weapons they used. Each weapon had cultural significance, and were mostly used to symbolize or reenact some famous battle or mythological fight. Yes, most gladiators were slaves and criminals, but they were a part of their society, and idolized those battles, and could experienced reflected glory unlike anyone other then the emperor himself, so it wasn’t entirely a despicable environment.. If you played a long, there was a good chance you’d live to see another day unless the crowd and the emperor wanted your blood.. The real losers were the weakest of slaves and criminals, who were set upon by wild animals – also re-enacting mythological or famous battles.

    Gladiatorial combat was a show. It was bloody, and dangerous, and a little brutal, but it was similar to professional wrestling. If you think that professional wrestling is all hugging and soft slapping, then you don’t know and might think it’s a specious comparison. It’s really not. The boasting, the violence, the rivalries.. professional wrestling mimics a lot of gladiatorial combat. Anyone who buys in to the gladiatorial boasting and chest thumping is just as misinformed as those who buy into professional wrestling.

    Oh, and did the Gladiator’s use the Sling? The scenario showed a “gladiator” using a sling against some roman soldiers, but was that really a gladiatorial weapon? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.. Ranged combat of that type kind of flies entirely in the face of the showmanship of gladiators.. I think they threw it in there to give the bow SOMETHING to compete against.. it only got 1 kill in the data.. so it was a pretty silly weapon to even include.

  • Matthew

    I wish they had real gladiatorial experts in the show, and I wish the experts weren’t so cocksure, I couldn’t stand any of the experts on either side when they were talking to/about one another.. About the gladiator helmet.. That helmet was specifically designed to have its range of vision lowered, and not all gladiators used it (heck, a small fraction of them did), and when they did, it was equally balanced by having superior weaponry to the opponent, or some other handicap. Gladiator fights were also not always fights to the death.. They managed to hint at it, but in gladiatorial combat, if you killed your opponent when the emperor didn’t ask you to by showing a downwards thumb, then you were killed, so it wasn’t “Kill or be killed”.. it’s “Kill if the emperor wills it or be killed”. Very few of the combats were to the death, because, like they said, it takes a lot of effort to train an entertaining gladiator, and if the emperor’s favored lost a bout, he didn’t want to see them unable to exact revenge at a later date.

    For that matter, many gladiators weren’t even identified by name – like they also hinted at but never explained, gladiators were largely known by the weapons they used. Each weapon had cultural significance, and were mostly used to symbolize or reenact some famous battle or mythological fight. Yes, most gladiators were slaves and criminals, but they were a part of their society, and idolized those battles, and could experienced reflected glory unlike anyone other then the emperor himself, so it wasn’t entirely a despicable environment.. If you played a long, there was a good chance you’d live to see another day unless the crowd and the emperor wanted your blood.. The real losers were the weakest of slaves and criminals, who were set upon by wild animals – also re-enacting mythological or famous battles.

    Gladiatorial combat was a show. It was bloody, and dangerous, and a little brutal, but it was similar to professional wrestling. If you think that professional wrestling is all hugging and soft slapping, then you don’t know and might think it’s a specious comparison. It’s really not. The boasting, the violence, the rivalries.. professional wrestling mimics a lot of gladiatorial combat. Anyone who buys in to the gladiatorial boasting and chest thumping is just as misinformed as those who buy into professional wrestling.

    Oh, and did the Gladiator’s use the Sling? The scenario showed a “gladiator” using a sling against some roman soldiers, but was that really a gladiatorial weapon? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.. Ranged combat of that type kind of flies entirely in the face of the showmanship of gladiators.. I think they threw it in there to give the bow SOMETHING to compete against.. it only got 1 kill in the data.. so it was a pretty silly weapon to even include.

  • Matthew

    I wish they had real gladiatorial experts in the show, and I wish the experts weren’t so cocksure, I couldn’t stand any of the experts on either side when they were talking to/about one another.. About the gladiator helmet.. That helmet was specifically designed to have its range of vision lowered, and not all gladiators used it (heck, a small fraction of them did), and when they did, it was equally balanced by having superior weaponry to the opponent, or some other handicap. Gladiator fights were also not always fights to the death.. They managed to hint at it, but in gladiatorial combat, if you killed your opponent when the emperor didn’t ask you to by showing a downwards thumb, then you were killed, so it wasn’t “Kill or be killed”.. it’s “Kill if the emperor wills it or be killed”. Very few of the combats were to the death, because, like they said, it takes a lot of effort to train an entertaining gladiator, and if the emperor’s favored lost a bout, he didn’t want to see them unable to exact revenge at a later date.

    For that matter, many gladiators weren’t even identified by name – like they also hinted at but never explained, gladiators were largely known by the weapons they used. Each weapon had cultural significance, and were mostly used to symbolize or reenact some famous battle or mythological fight. Yes, most gladiators were slaves and criminals, but they were a part of their society, and idolized those battles, and could experienced reflected glory unlike anyone other then the emperor himself, so it wasn’t entirely a despicable environment.. If you played a long, there was a good chance you’d live to see another day unless the crowd and the emperor wanted your blood.. The real losers were the weakest of slaves and criminals, who were set upon by wild animals – also re-enacting mythological or famous battles.

    Gladiatorial combat was a show. It was bloody, and dangerous, and a little brutal, but it was similar to professional wrestling. If you think that professional wrestling is all hugging and soft slapping, then you don’t know and might think it’s a specious comparison. It’s really not. The boasting, the violence, the rivalries.. professional wrestling mimics a lot of gladiatorial combat. Anyone who buys in to the gladiatorial boasting and chest thumping is just as misinformed as those who buy into professional wrestling.

    Oh, and did the Gladiator’s use the Sling? The scenario showed a “gladiator” using a sling against some roman soldiers, but was that really a gladiatorial weapon? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.. Ranged combat of that type kind of flies entirely in the face of the showmanship of gladiators.. I think they threw it in there to give the bow SOMETHING to compete against.. it only got 1 kill in the data.. so it was a pretty silly weapon to even include.

  • Matthew

    I wish they had real gladiatorial experts in the show, and I wish the experts weren’t so cocksure, I couldn’t stand any of the experts on either side when they were talking to/about one another.. About the gladiator helmet.. That helmet was specifically designed to have its range of vision lowered, and not all gladiators used it (heck, a small fraction of them did), and when they did, it was equally balanced by having superior weaponry to the opponent, or some other handicap. Gladiator fights were also not always fights to the death.. They managed to hint at it, but in gladiatorial combat, if you killed your opponent when the emperor didn’t ask you to by showing a downwards thumb, then you were killed, so it wasn’t “Kill or be killed”.. it’s “Kill if the emperor wills it or be killed”. Very few of the combats were to the death, because, like they said, it takes a lot of effort to train an entertaining gladiator, and if the emperor’s favored lost a bout, he didn’t want to see them unable to exact revenge at a later date.

    For that matter, many gladiators weren’t even identified by name – like they also hinted at but never explained, gladiators were largely known by the weapons they used. Each weapon had cultural significance, and were mostly used to symbolize or reenact some famous battle or mythological fight. Yes, most gladiators were slaves and criminals, but they were a part of their society, and idolized those battles, and could experienced reflected glory unlike anyone other then the emperor himself, so it wasn’t entirely a despicable environment.. If you played a long, there was a good chance you’d live to see another day unless the crowd and the emperor wanted your blood.. The real losers were the weakest of slaves and criminals, who were set upon by wild animals – also re-enacting mythological or famous battles.

    Gladiatorial combat was a show. It was bloody, and dangerous, and a little brutal, but it was similar to professional wrestling. If you think that professional wrestling is all hugging and soft slapping, then you don’t know and might think it’s a specious comparison. It’s really not. The boasting, the violence, the rivalries.. professional wrestling mimics a lot of gladiatorial combat. Anyone who buys in to the gladiatorial boasting and chest thumping is just as misinformed as those who buy into professional wrestling.

    Oh, and did the Gladiator’s use the Sling? The scenario showed a “gladiator” using a sling against some roman soldiers, but was that really a gladiatorial weapon? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.. Ranged combat of that type kind of flies entirely in the face of the showmanship of gladiators.. I think they threw it in there to give the bow SOMETHING to compete against.. it only got 1 kill in the data.. so it was a pretty silly weapon to even include.

  • Andrew

    What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.

  • Andrew

    What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.

  • Andrew

    What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.

  • Andrew

    What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.

  • Mike

    Im a fan of the show but i wish that they had more evenly matched people like if they made the gladiator fight the viking two guys with somewhat similar fighting styles if a gladiator went into a forest the apache would kill them before they knew what the hell was going on they really should take into account the geographical settings these warriors had before they make these matches

  • Mike

    Im a fan of the show but i wish that they had more evenly matched people like if they made the gladiator fight the viking two guys with somewhat similar fighting styles if a gladiator went into a forest the apache would kill them before they knew what the hell was going on they really should take into account the geographical settings these warriors had before they make these matches

  • Mike

    Im a fan of the show but i wish that they had more evenly matched people like if they made the gladiator fight the viking two guys with somewhat similar fighting styles if a gladiator went into a forest the apache would kill them before they knew what the hell was going on they really should take into account the geographical settings these warriors had before they make these matches

  • Mike

    Im a fan of the show but i wish that they had more evenly matched people like if they made the gladiator fight the viking two guys with somewhat similar fighting styles if a gladiator went into a forest the apache would kill them before they knew what the hell was going on they really should take into account the geographical settings these warriors had before they make these matches

  • mightysamurai

    This excellent essay “The Medieval European Knight vs. The Feudal Japanese Samurai?” (http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm) illustrates pretty well why it’s essentially impossible to say with any certainty which ancient fighter/fighting style was the “best”.

  • mightysamurai

    This excellent essay “The Medieval European Knight vs. The Feudal Japanese Samurai?” (http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm) illustrates pretty well why it’s essentially impossible to say with any certainty which ancient fighter/fighting style was the “best”.

  • mightysamurai

    This excellent essay “The Medieval European Knight vs. The Feudal Japanese Samurai?” (http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm) illustrates pretty well why it’s essentially impossible to say with any certainty which ancient fighter/fighting style was the “best”.

  • mightysamurai

    This excellent essay “The Medieval European Knight vs. The Feudal Japanese Samurai?” (http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm) illustrates pretty well why it’s essentially impossible to say with any certainty which ancient fighter/fighting style was the “best”.

  • mightysamurai

    “What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.”

    *ahem* The Vikings didn’t use bastard swords. Viking swords went out of style in the 11th century and the bastard sword didn’t come around till the 15th century. Also, the preferred weapon of most Vikings was the battle-axe or the spear, not the sword.

  • mightysamurai

    “What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.”

    *ahem* The Vikings didn’t use bastard swords. Viking swords went out of style in the 11th century and the bastard sword didn’t come around till the 15th century. Also, the preferred weapon of most Vikings was the battle-axe or the spear, not the sword.

  • mightysamurai

    “What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.”

    *ahem* The Vikings didn’t use bastard swords. Viking swords went out of style in the 11th century and the bastard sword didn’t come around till the 15th century. Also, the preferred weapon of most Vikings was the battle-axe or the spear, not the sword.

  • mightysamurai

    “What amazes me is what the next show will be. Does no one else see the stupidity of the katana versus a bastard (hand and a half) sword. I just hope that they find some awesome zen kendo/iaido master to silently sit and watch as the viking gets drunk and stumbles around in the pre-battle fight.”

    *ahem* The Vikings didn’t use bastard swords. Viking swords went out of style in the 11th century and the bastard sword didn’t come around till the 15th century. Also, the preferred weapon of most Vikings was the battle-axe or the spear, not the sword.

  • mightysamurai

    (apologies if this double-posts)

    “We couldn’t have just pitted the Apaches against Roman legions?”

    You could, but it’d probably be a pretty quick and disappointing slaughter in favor of the Roman Legions. Historically speaking, highly organized armies tend to beat the snot out of disorganized brawlers or guerilla fighters. There are exceptions of course, but those exceptions usually end up proving the rule in the end.

    For instance, people often cite the American militiamen in the Revolutionary War as an example of disorganized guerillas beating an organized army. Well not only is this simply wrong (the Continental Army was just as if not more responsible for America’s victory over the British in the Revolution) the American militia didn’t always win the fights they got into. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, the Redcoats were not helpless against the superior tactics of the Militia and the Militia did not run rings around the British.

    Another example people cite is the North Vietnamese Army during the Vietnam War. But again, Hollywood deceives. While American casualties were extraordinarily high during Vietnam, the North Vietnamese had almost no significant victories under their belt. The reason America “lost” the Vietnam War was not because our military was beaten but because the American people had simply gotten sick of it. It was too long, too expensive, and too costly in American lives. But in every major battle, the US military beat the ever-livin’ snot out of the North Vietnamese each time. Had we continued the war we could conceivably have won it, but not without incredible cost.

  • mightysamurai

    (apologies if this double-posts)

    “We couldn’t have just pitted the Apaches against Roman legions?”

    You could, but it’d probably be a pretty quick and disappointing slaughter in favor of the Roman Legions. Historically speaking, highly organized armies tend to beat the snot out of disorganized brawlers or guerilla fighters. There are exceptions of course, but those exceptions usually end up proving the rule in the end.

    For instance, people often cite the American militiamen in the Revolutionary War as an example of disorganized guerillas beating an organized army. Well not only is this simply wrong (the Continental Army was just as if not more responsible for America’s victory over the British in the Revolution) the American militia didn’t always win the fights they got into. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, the Redcoats were not helpless against the superior tactics of the Militia and the Militia did not run rings around the British.

    Another example people cite is the North Vietnamese Army during the Vietnam War. But again, Hollywood deceives. While American casualties were extraordinarily high during Vietnam, the North Vietnamese had almost no significant victories under their belt. The reason America “lost” the Vietnam War was not because our military was beaten but because the American people had simply gotten sick of it. It was too long, too expensive, and too costly in American lives. But in every major battle, the US military beat the ever-livin’ snot out of the North Vietnamese each time. Had we continued the war we could conceivably have won it, but not without incredible cost.

  • mightysamurai

    (apologies if this double-posts)

    “We couldn’t have just pitted the Apaches against Roman legions?”

    You could, but it’d probably be a pretty quick and disappointing slaughter in favor of the Roman Legions. Historically speaking, highly organized armies tend to beat the snot out of disorganized brawlers or guerilla fighters. There are exceptions of course, but those exceptions usually end up proving the rule in the end.

    For instance, people often cite the American militiamen in the Revolutionary War as an example of disorganized guerillas beating an organized army. Well not only is this simply wrong (the Continental Army was just as if not more responsible for America’s victory over the British in the Revolution) the American militia didn’t always win the fights they got into. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, the Redcoats were not helpless against the superior tactics of the Militia and the Militia did not run rings around the British.

    Another example people cite is the North Vietnamese Army during the Vietnam War. But again, Hollywood deceives. While American casualties were extraordinarily high during Vietnam, the North Vietnamese had almost no significant victories under their belt. The reason America “lost” the Vietnam War was not because our military was beaten but because the American people had simply gotten sick of it. It was too long, too expensive, and too costly in American lives. But in every major battle, the US military beat the ever-livin’ snot out of the North Vietnamese each time. Had we continued the war we could conceivably have won it, but not without incredible cost.

  • Cochise Rhone

    Hey man, great work. I love what you do with the whole pop culture thing you got going. Maybe you should read Chuck Klosterman if you have not already, he’s good with breaking down American entertainment too.

    I teach English in Korea and this form of commentary just ain’t popping here. I loved FF8, but your reviews have not changed my mind but they made me realize how wrong I was to praise it as highly as I did. I did think FF9 was hot trash and ass on a cold winter’s night. Please do that one when you have time. Keep up the good work.

  • Cochise Rhone

    Hey man, great work. I love what you do with the whole pop culture thing you got going. Maybe you should read Chuck Klosterman if you have not already, he’s good with breaking down American entertainment too.

    I teach English in Korea and this form of commentary just ain’t popping here. I loved FF8, but your reviews have not changed my mind but they made me realize how wrong I was to praise it as highly as I did. I did think FF9 was hot trash and ass on a cold winter’s night. Please do that one when you have time. Keep up the good work.

  • Quikquik

    I can only imagine what the second season of Deadliest Warrior will be like. By then, the producers will probably have episodes like these:
    Cro-Magnon warrior vs. U.S. Marine circa 2009
    Civilian hunter from Canada circa 1993 vs. Swedish Moose Cavalier
    Accountant circa 1999 vs. Samurai circa 1561

  • Quikquik

    I can only imagine what the second season of Deadliest Warrior will be like. By then, the producers will probably have episodes like these:
    Cro-Magnon warrior vs. U.S. Marine circa 2009
    Civilian hunter from Canada circa 1993 vs. Swedish Moose Cavalier
    Accountant circa 1999 vs. Samurai circa 1561

  • Quikquik

    I can only imagine what the second season of Deadliest Warrior will be like. By then, the producers will probably have episodes like these:
    Cro-Magnon warrior vs. U.S. Marine circa 2009
    Civilian hunter from Canada circa 1993 vs. Swedish Moose Cavalier
    Accountant circa 1999 vs. Samurai circa 1561

  • Quikquik

    I can only imagine what the second season of Deadliest Warrior will be like. By then, the producers will probably have episodes like these:
    Cro-Magnon warrior vs. U.S. Marine circa 2009
    Civilian hunter from Canada circa 1993 vs. Swedish Moose Cavalier
    Accountant circa 1999 vs. Samurai circa 1561

  • mixmastermind

    Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies. The average Roman victory involved wearing their enemies down and demoralizing them. They were, however, exceedingly good at winning wars, due to the Romans’ amazing ability to never even suspect that they could actually lose; it was simply a matter of throwing in more people.

    One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy. It has been stated by the Vietnamese. I would suggest that while there was no chance of them winning in a straight-up fight, the Vietnamese had been so used to dying that it was mostly a force of habit. They’d been resisting violent foreign powers since the ’40s, and after over 20 years they eventually just didn’t care about the casualties. The US did, and the Viet Minh were counting on that.

    There’s also a long history of a technologically and numerically advanced nation getting stomped by their “weaker” foe. The Albanian resistance against the Ottoman empire, everything involving the knights hospitallier, the De Boers resistance to the British, Ethiopian resistance to Italy, the Majority of the Anglo-Zulu wars, the three Anglo-Afghan wars, and Boudica’s resistance to the Romans are all good examples.

    Sorry for that, History nut talking.

  • mixmastermind

    Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies. The average Roman victory involved wearing their enemies down and demoralizing them. They were, however, exceedingly good at winning wars, due to the Romans’ amazing ability to never even suspect that they could actually lose; it was simply a matter of throwing in more people.

    One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy. It has been stated by the Vietnamese. I would suggest that while there was no chance of them winning in a straight-up fight, the Vietnamese had been so used to dying that it was mostly a force of habit. They’d been resisting violent foreign powers since the ’40s, and after over 20 years they eventually just didn’t care about the casualties. The US did, and the Viet Minh were counting on that.

    There’s also a long history of a technologically and numerically advanced nation getting stomped by their “weaker” foe. The Albanian resistance against the Ottoman empire, everything involving the knights hospitallier, the De Boers resistance to the British, Ethiopian resistance to Italy, the Majority of the Anglo-Zulu wars, the three Anglo-Afghan wars, and Boudica’s resistance to the Romans are all good examples.

    Sorry for that, History nut talking.

  • mixmastermind

    Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies. The average Roman victory involved wearing their enemies down and demoralizing them. They were, however, exceedingly good at winning wars, due to the Romans’ amazing ability to never even suspect that they could actually lose; it was simply a matter of throwing in more people.

    One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy. It has been stated by the Vietnamese. I would suggest that while there was no chance of them winning in a straight-up fight, the Vietnamese had been so used to dying that it was mostly a force of habit. They’d been resisting violent foreign powers since the ’40s, and after over 20 years they eventually just didn’t care about the casualties. The US did, and the Viet Minh were counting on that.

    There’s also a long history of a technologically and numerically advanced nation getting stomped by their “weaker” foe. The Albanian resistance against the Ottoman empire, everything involving the knights hospitallier, the De Boers resistance to the British, Ethiopian resistance to Italy, the Majority of the Anglo-Zulu wars, the three Anglo-Afghan wars, and Boudica’s resistance to the Romans are all good examples.

    Sorry for that, History nut talking.

  • mixmastermind

    Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies. The average Roman victory involved wearing their enemies down and demoralizing them. They were, however, exceedingly good at winning wars, due to the Romans’ amazing ability to never even suspect that they could actually lose; it was simply a matter of throwing in more people.

    One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy. It has been stated by the Vietnamese. I would suggest that while there was no chance of them winning in a straight-up fight, the Vietnamese had been so used to dying that it was mostly a force of habit. They’d been resisting violent foreign powers since the ’40s, and after over 20 years they eventually just didn’t care about the casualties. The US did, and the Viet Minh were counting on that.

    There’s also a long history of a technologically and numerically advanced nation getting stomped by their “weaker” foe. The Albanian resistance against the Ottoman empire, everything involving the knights hospitallier, the De Boers resistance to the British, Ethiopian resistance to Italy, the Majority of the Anglo-Zulu wars, the three Anglo-Afghan wars, and Boudica’s resistance to the Romans are all good examples.

    Sorry for that, History nut talking.

  • mightysamurai

    “Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies.”

    Perhaps not by modern standards, but you can’t discount the fact that even with their deficiencies in strength or tactical sense, they still conquered the entire Mediterranean and almost all of Europe and kept control over it for many, many years.

    Besides, the Apache weren’t necessarily the most skilled individual melee warriors either.

    “One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.”

    Sure, in a one-on-one battle the Apache would have a huge advantage. The Legionnaires were trained to fight as part of a group and not generally skilled at individual combat. But the original question was about Roman Legions, plural, vs. Apaches, plural. In that situation the more organized Legionnaires would have the advantage (although the Apaches certainly wouldn’t be pushovers). That, in a sense, is illustrative of why these “who would win in a fight?” debates are pretty pointless. You can’t take two different fighters who trained in two completely different combat styles designed for completely different environments with completely different intents and expect to figure out which one was the “better” fighter. In one set of circumstances one fighter might have an advantage, but in another set of circumstances the opposite might be true.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy.

    Sure, but this was a discussion of tactics, not strategy. It’s all about “who would win in a fight?” not “who would win a long and drawn out war?”. The latter question is far more complex.

    By that standard, all other things being equal, a disciplined and organized army almost always has the advantage and history bears this out. Sometimes disorganized resistance movements have been successful in driving out an enemy over time, but an examination of individual battles generally shows that organization and discipline beats disorganization and disorder. Not to say that the outcome is always certain, but statistics and history are on the side of the organized army over the disorganized one.

  • mightysamurai

    “Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies.”

    Perhaps not by modern standards, but you can’t discount the fact that even with their deficiencies in strength or tactical sense, they still conquered the entire Mediterranean and almost all of Europe and kept control over it for many, many years.

    Besides, the Apache weren’t necessarily the most skilled individual melee warriors either.

    “One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.”

    Sure, in a one-on-one battle the Apache would have a huge advantage. The Legionnaires were trained to fight as part of a group and not generally skilled at individual combat. But the original question was about Roman Legions, plural, vs. Apaches, plural. In that situation the more organized Legionnaires would have the advantage (although the Apaches certainly wouldn’t be pushovers). That, in a sense, is illustrative of why these “who would win in a fight?” debates are pretty pointless. You can’t take two different fighters who trained in two completely different combat styles designed for completely different environments with completely different intents and expect to figure out which one was the “better” fighter. In one set of circumstances one fighter might have an advantage, but in another set of circumstances the opposite might be true.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy.

    Sure, but this was a discussion of tactics, not strategy. It’s all about “who would win in a fight?” not “who would win a long and drawn out war?”. The latter question is far more complex.

    By that standard, all other things being equal, a disciplined and organized army almost always has the advantage and history bears this out. Sometimes disorganized resistance movements have been successful in driving out an enemy over time, but an examination of individual battles generally shows that organization and discipline beats disorganization and disorder. Not to say that the outcome is always certain, but statistics and history are on the side of the organized army over the disorganized one.

  • mightysamurai

    “Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies.”

    Perhaps not by modern standards, but you can’t discount the fact that even with their deficiencies in strength or tactical sense, they still conquered the entire Mediterranean and almost all of Europe and kept control over it for many, many years.

    Besides, the Apache weren’t necessarily the most skilled individual melee warriors either.

    “One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.”

    Sure, in a one-on-one battle the Apache would have a huge advantage. The Legionnaires were trained to fight as part of a group and not generally skilled at individual combat. But the original question was about Roman Legions, plural, vs. Apaches, plural. In that situation the more organized Legionnaires would have the advantage (although the Apaches certainly wouldn’t be pushovers). That, in a sense, is illustrative of why these “who would win in a fight?” debates are pretty pointless. You can’t take two different fighters who trained in two completely different combat styles designed for completely different environments with completely different intents and expect to figure out which one was the “better” fighter. In one set of circumstances one fighter might have an advantage, but in another set of circumstances the opposite might be true.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy.

    Sure, but this was a discussion of tactics, not strategy. It’s all about “who would win in a fight?” not “who would win a long and drawn out war?”. The latter question is far more complex.

    By that standard, all other things being equal, a disciplined and organized army almost always has the advantage and history bears this out. Sometimes disorganized resistance movements have been successful in driving out an enemy over time, but an examination of individual battles generally shows that organization and discipline beats disorganization and disorder. Not to say that the outcome is always certain, but statistics and history are on the side of the organized army over the disorganized one.

  • mightysamurai

    “Hey, mightysamurai, there are a few problems with your statements. First of all, Romans in general were not the most powerful or tactically ingenious of armies.”

    Perhaps not by modern standards, but you can’t discount the fact that even with their deficiencies in strength or tactical sense, they still conquered the entire Mediterranean and almost all of Europe and kept control over it for many, many years.

    Besides, the Apache weren’t necessarily the most skilled individual melee warriors either.

    “One on one, a Legionnaire against an Apache warrior would be a quick and bloody affair against the Roman. The Roman would be walking along in his bright red uniform, and then the Apache would sneak up and stab him in his lungs, repeatedly, and then take the top of his head off.”

    Sure, in a one-on-one battle the Apache would have a huge advantage. The Legionnaires were trained to fight as part of a group and not generally skilled at individual combat. But the original question was about Roman Legions, plural, vs. Apaches, plural. In that situation the more organized Legionnaires would have the advantage (although the Apaches certainly wouldn’t be pushovers). That, in a sense, is illustrative of why these “who would win in a fight?” debates are pretty pointless. You can’t take two different fighters who trained in two completely different combat styles designed for completely different environments with completely different intents and expect to figure out which one was the “better” fighter. In one set of circumstances one fighter might have an advantage, but in another set of circumstances the opposite might be true.

    I would suggest that the point of the Vietnam war was not to win battles, but to so heavily demoralize the US that they would pull out. This was in fact their actual strategy.

    Sure, but this was a discussion of tactics, not strategy. It’s all about “who would win in a fight?” not “who would win a long and drawn out war?”. The latter question is far more complex.

    By that standard, all other things being equal, a disciplined and organized army almost always has the advantage and history bears this out. Sometimes disorganized resistance movements have been successful in driving out an enemy over time, but an examination of individual battles generally shows that organization and discipline beats disorganization and disorder. Not to say that the outcome is always certain, but statistics and history are on the side of the organized army over the disorganized one.

  • tommy

    I watched this shit thought. Is it stupid? Kinda, yeah. Is it entertaining? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

  • tommy

    I watched this shit thought. Is it stupid? Kinda, yeah. Is it entertaining? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

  • tommy

    I watched this shit thought. Is it stupid? Kinda, yeah. Is it entertaining? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

  • tommy

    I watched this shit thought. Is it stupid? Kinda, yeah. Is it entertaining? Yeah, I enjoyed it.

  • BioSaber

    this show is awesome. i always love to see old fashion weapon into action. i just want to see a Spartan in battle.

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!

  • BioSaber

    this show is awesome. i always love to see old fashion weapon into action. i just want to see a Spartan in battle.

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!

  • BioSaber

    this show is awesome. i always love to see old fashion weapon into action. i just want to see a Spartan in battle.

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!

  • BioSaber

    this show is awesome. i always love to see old fashion weapon into action. i just want to see a Spartan in battle.

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies Vaughn Fry

    While I was watching the second episode, I posted to Twitter my on going thoughts. Before long Max Geiger started following me on Twitter. Does that name sound familiar? It’s the show’s computer geek. Later on, I realized that he quit following me, having posted a reply to my criticism of the show’s “program”.

    If you want to see, check out my Twitter: http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies

  • http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies Vaughn Fry

    While I was watching the second episode, I posted to Twitter my on going thoughts. Before long Max Geiger started following me on Twitter. Does that name sound familiar? It’s the show’s computer geek. Later on, I realized that he quit following me, having posted a reply to my criticism of the show’s “program”.

    If you want to see, check out my Twitter: http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies

  • http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies Vaughn Fry

    While I was watching the second episode, I posted to Twitter my on going thoughts. Before long Max Geiger started following me on Twitter. Does that name sound familiar? It’s the show’s computer geek. Later on, I realized that he quit following me, having posted a reply to my criticism of the show’s “program”.

    If you want to see, check out my Twitter: http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies

  • http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies Vaughn Fry

    While I was watching the second episode, I posted to Twitter my on going thoughts. Before long Max Geiger started following me on Twitter. Does that name sound familiar? It’s the show’s computer geek. Later on, I realized that he quit following me, having posted a reply to my criticism of the show’s “program”.

    If you want to see, check out my Twitter: http://twitter.com/VaughnOnMovies

  • HeirofSparda

    I’m curious to know what you think of later episodes. I just watched the second episode and certain segments had me screaming at the TV from the “facts” they gave and how poorly done this episode’s fight was.

  • HeirofSparda

    I’m curious to know what you think of later episodes. I just watched the second episode and certain segments had me screaming at the TV from the “facts” they gave and how poorly done this episode’s fight was.

  • HeirofSparda

    I’m curious to know what you think of later episodes. I just watched the second episode and certain segments had me screaming at the TV from the “facts” they gave and how poorly done this episode’s fight was.

  • Billy Blinks

    Well actually there’s going to be a SPARTAN VS NINJA episode, so…

  • Billy Blinks

    Well actually there’s going to be a SPARTAN VS NINJA episode, so…

  • Billy Blinks

    Well actually there’s going to be a SPARTAN VS NINJA episode, so…

  • Billy Blinks

    Well actually there’s going to be a SPARTAN VS NINJA episode, so…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kauYSEOuiPQ Squall Sucks
  • rocketman

    Ah Quik Quik–exactly where did you get your degree in archaeology? Want to match it against mine? As a matter of fact–singly or en mass the Roman soldier was the premier fighter in the world at the time. He had the best technology available in terms of weapons and armour and was trainied in it. Read your history–the scutae and the gladius is a knife fighters worst fear. In addition the Roman army was about the only force in the world that could advance into the teeth of bow fire suffering little to no casualties. Only the mounted parthian archers ever gave them a problem and only when some dickhead like Crassus walked them one hundred miles into the desert without water.

    Yes they lost—but usually when they were outnumbered–utterly surprised or lead by an inept leader–( Battle of theTeutoborgwald).

    A one on one versus an apache is arrow of of scutum. Tomahawk off of helmet. Gladius in the stomach.

  • rocketman

    Ah Quik Quik–exactly where did you get your degree in archaeology? Want to match it against mine? As a matter of fact–singly or en mass the Roman soldier was the premier fighter in the world at the time. He had the best technology available in terms of weapons and armour and was trainied in it. Read your history–the scutae and the gladius is a knife fighters worst fear. In addition the Roman army was about the only force in the world that could advance into the teeth of bow fire suffering little to no casualties. Only the mounted parthian archers ever gave them a problem and only when some dickhead like Crassus walked them one hundred miles into the desert without water.

    Yes they lost—but usually when they were outnumbered–utterly surprised or lead by an inept leader–( Battle of theTeutoborgwald).

    A one on one versus an apache is arrow of of scutum. Tomahawk off of helmet. Gladius in the stomach.

  • Altorin

    the discussion about roman soldier vs apache is the whole reason this show exists… Yes, the facts are a little off, but it boils down to (quite literally in the case of the samurai, viking, and apache) “My great great great great great granddad can kill your great great great great granddad” :P

    It taps into the little kid competition that plays out on schoolgrounds all over the world, and have since kids first started banging rocks together.

  • Altorin

    the discussion about roman soldier vs apache is the whole reason this show exists… Yes, the facts are a little off, but it boils down to (quite literally in the case of the samurai, viking, and apache) “My great great great great great granddad can kill your great great great great granddad” :P

    It taps into the little kid competition that plays out on schoolgrounds all over the world, and have since kids first started banging rocks together.

  • Altorin

    the discussion about roman soldier vs apache is the whole reason this show exists… Yes, the facts are a little off, but it boils down to (quite literally in the case of the samurai, viking, and apache) “My great great great great great granddad can kill your great great great great granddad” :P

    It taps into the little kid competition that plays out on schoolgrounds all over the world, and have since kids first started banging rocks together.

  • Altorin

    the discussion about roman soldier vs apache is the whole reason this show exists… Yes, the facts are a little off, but it boils down to (quite literally in the case of the samurai, viking, and apache) “My great great great great great granddad can kill your great great great great granddad” :P

    It taps into the little kid competition that plays out on schoolgrounds all over the world, and have since kids first started banging rocks together.

  • jason

    Well too bad it isn’t pirates vs ninja, but it’s pirates vs Knight and Spartans vs Ninja

  • jason

    Well too bad it isn’t pirates vs ninja, but it’s pirates vs Knight and Spartans vs Ninja

  • jason

    Well too bad it isn’t pirates vs ninja, but it’s pirates vs Knight and Spartans vs Ninja

  • jason

    Well too bad it isn’t pirates vs ninja, but it’s pirates vs Knight and Spartans vs Ninja

  • rosu9801

    Logically the most recent warrior/weapon should be better then the previous.
    So comparing a gladiator with an apache or a viking vs a samurai the more recent warrior should have a big advantage and win more often.
    Just compare a US marine vs a soldier from the WW2 and they are just 50 years apart not 500+ as in the other cases.
    Would be interesting to see how they would do if they fought a 1000 battles each if they could use their own tactic and strategy.

  • rosu9801

    Logically the most recent warrior/weapon should be better then the previous.
    So comparing a gladiator with an apache or a viking vs a samurai the more recent warrior should have a big advantage and win more often.
    Just compare a US marine vs a soldier from the WW2 and they are just 50 years apart not 500+ as in the other cases.
    Would be interesting to see how they would do if they fought a 1000 battles each if they could use their own tactic and strategy.

  • http://www.pokerjerk.net/ The Poker Jerk

    Wow, way to Not Get It.

  • http://www.pokerjerk.net/ The Poker Jerk

    Wow, way to Not Get It.

  • http://www.pokerjerk.net/ The Poker Jerk

    Wow, way to Not Get It.

  • http://www.pokerjerk.net The Poker Jerk

    Wow, way to Not Get It.

  • Sebastian

    I saw a “fiht” between a spartan and a ninja… It was all bullshit. The spartan won… I don’t really know how, becuase spartans were trained to fight in a phalahanx, not one to one battles, which the “ninjas” (well, ninja is kind of a strange word, ninjas were usually samurais who were going to assasinate somebody, and no, they didn’t allways dress in black. Much better to dress as the enemy…) trained at. Besides the ninja use at steel katana or perhaps a shorter sword, still steel anyway, wich should give him a huge advantage. So, the ninja should win, but fuck no, cause THIS IS SPARTA! In a big battle the spartans would have kicked ass, but not in a duel.

    I remember Spetsnaz vs Green Berets also. Wtf? Spetsnaz is NOTHING. ISpetsnaz means “troops with special porpuse”, so every soldier that do anything special is spetsnaz (yes, this is how russia use the term). It was probably the GRU spetsnaz in the show, but they shouldn’tbe compered with the green berets, rather Delta Force, DEVGRU or SAS, much better.

    Fuck this

  • Sebastian

    I saw a “fiht” between a spartan and a ninja… It was all bullshit. The spartan won… I don’t really know how, becuase spartans were trained to fight in a phalahanx, not one to one battles, which the “ninjas” (well, ninja is kind of a strange word, ninjas were usually samurais who were going to assasinate somebody, and no, they didn’t allways dress in black. Much better to dress as the enemy…) trained at. Besides the ninja use at steel katana or perhaps a shorter sword, still steel anyway, wich should give him a huge advantage. So, the ninja should win, but fuck no, cause THIS IS SPARTA! In a big battle the spartans would have kicked ass, but not in a duel.

    I remember Spetsnaz vs Green Berets also. Wtf? Spetsnaz is NOTHING. ISpetsnaz means “troops with special porpuse”, so every soldier that do anything special is spetsnaz (yes, this is how russia use the term). It was probably the GRU spetsnaz in the show, but they shouldn’tbe compered with the green berets, rather Delta Force, DEVGRU or SAS, much better.

    Fuck this

  • Sebastian

    I saw a “fiht” between a spartan and a ninja… It was all bullshit. The spartan won… I don’t really know how, becuase spartans were trained to fight in a phalahanx, not one to one battles, which the “ninjas” (well, ninja is kind of a strange word, ninjas were usually samurais who were going to assasinate somebody, and no, they didn’t allways dress in black. Much better to dress as the enemy…) trained at. Besides the ninja use at steel katana or perhaps a shorter sword, still steel anyway, wich should give him a huge advantage. So, the ninja should win, but fuck no, cause THIS IS SPARTA! In a big battle the spartans would have kicked ass, but not in a duel.

    I remember Spetsnaz vs Green Berets also. Wtf? Spetsnaz is NOTHING. ISpetsnaz means “troops with special porpuse”, so every soldier that do anything special is spetsnaz (yes, this is how russia use the term). It was probably the GRU spetsnaz in the show, but they shouldn’tbe compered with the green berets, rather Delta Force, DEVGRU or SAS, much better.

    Fuck this

  • Sebastian

    I saw a “fiht” between a spartan and a ninja… It was all bullshit. The spartan won… I don’t really know how, becuase spartans were trained to fight in a phalahanx, not one to one battles, which the “ninjas” (well, ninja is kind of a strange word, ninjas were usually samurais who were going to assasinate somebody, and no, they didn’t allways dress in black. Much better to dress as the enemy…) trained at. Besides the ninja use at steel katana or perhaps a shorter sword, still steel anyway, wich should give him a huge advantage. So, the ninja should win, but fuck no, cause THIS IS SPARTA! In a big battle the spartans would have kicked ass, but not in a duel.

    I remember Spetsnaz vs Green Berets also. Wtf? Spetsnaz is NOTHING. ISpetsnaz means “troops with special porpuse”, so every soldier that do anything special is spetsnaz (yes, this is how russia use the term). It was probably the GRU spetsnaz in the show, but they shouldn’tbe compered with the green berets, rather Delta Force, DEVGRU or SAS, much better.

    Fuck this

  • xatm092

    This show sounds hilarious. They assume a fair fight, which is highly unlikely to be the case in a lot of of the conflicts I’ve heard they’ve done.

    Anyway, I love your reviews spoony, keep it up.

  • xatm092

    This show sounds hilarious. They assume a fair fight, which is highly unlikely to be the case in a lot of of the conflicts I’ve heard they’ve done.

    Anyway, I love your reviews spoony, keep it up.

  • xatm092

    This show sounds hilarious. They assume a fair fight, which is highly unlikely to be the case in a lot of of the conflicts I’ve heard they’ve done.

    Anyway, I love your reviews spoony, keep it up.

  • xatm092

    This show sounds hilarious. They assume a fair fight, which is highly unlikely to be the case in a lot of of the conflicts I’ve heard they’ve done.

    Anyway, I love your reviews spoony, keep it up.

  • Starhawk64

    Yeah, this show is kinda dumb, but I find it highly entertaining and the 300 guy is what really gives it charm.

  • Starhawk64

    Yeah, this show is kinda dumb, but I find it highly entertaining and the 300 guy is what really gives it charm.

  • Starhawk64

    Yeah, this show is kinda dumb, but I find it highly entertaining and the 300 guy is what really gives it charm.

  • Starhawk64

    Yeah, this show is kinda dumb, but I find it highly entertaining and the 300 guy is what really gives it charm.

  • Arky

    This show is one of the most stupid things I have seen in a while.

    Can’t wait for them to do Grigori Rasputin vs Alan Moore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Hayes-Barber/100001171334733 James Hayes Barber

    Thats the guy from 300? Wow!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Freddy-Duran/100000817426762 Freddy Duran

    Too bad Pirate Vs Ninja never happened =(

    NINJA V SPARTAN WAS BULLSHIT!!!! Glass+Eye=blindness not shake it off and fight on

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Manuel-Aduna/1712179998 Manuel Aduna

    Foreshadowing XD

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Manuel-Aduna/1712179998 Manuel Aduna

    Foreshadowing XD

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shane-Stephenson/1381510872 Shane Stephenson

    A couple of things:

    1. I’m not sure that’s really David Wenham. He’s credited as “Drew Skye,” and he doesn’t always sound like David Wenham. Then again, I’ve also heard the theory he’s just using an alias.
    2. The matchups become less illogical as the show goes on. They’re still anachronistic, but at least they tend to fall into similar categories.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shane-Stephenson/1381510872 Shane Stephenson

    A couple of things:

    1. I’m not sure that’s really David Wenham. He’s credited as “Drew Skye,” and he doesn’t always sound like David Wenham. Then again, I’ve also heard the theory he’s just using an alias.
    2. The matchups become less illogical as the show goes on. They’re still anachronistic, but at least they tend to fall into similar categories.

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