Direct2drive.com is selling this game for $5 so now you can call it a $5 rental lol
weenus
"One thing I’ve never understood is when people refuse to buy a game because of DRM, and then some use that to justify pirating it. Where do they get that sense of entitlement? I’m all for showing your opinion of DRM by not buying games with it, but downloading it instead just makes you look like a whining crybaby who’s easily manipulated by hype."
The downloaded version doesn't have the DRM. What entitles me to do it is that I can. What's your question?
NaclynE
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(Me) Ohh I see. Ive dealt with that myself. Seems like a old issue but I guess companies or whatever always seem to have new ways or whatever to 'protect their product' which to me I hate. One of the reasons why i'm a consle gamer and why my dad keeps yelling at me 'NOT TO BUY PC GAMES!' but I like to update my PC library once in a grey while you know...other than *cough* games.
F-Valves
I'm completely freaked out on your uncanny resemblance to A Phantom Menace's Ewan McGregor in this video's still.
leon101
I will enjoy it... but on ps3.
timep
Don't worry - I'll bet its temporary copy protection. It hasn't been cracked yet, and so Atari's hoping people will go out and buy it instead. In 6 months or something, there'll probably be a revocation tool, same as with Bioshock. There trying to get as many people to buy it initially as possible.
One thing I've never understood is when people refuse to buy a game because of DRM, and then some use that to justify pirating it. Where do they get that sense of entitlement? I'm all for showing your opinion of DRM by not buying games with it, but downloading it instead just makes you look like a whining crybaby who's easily manipulated by hype.
SecuROM is why people download a pirated copy just to get rid of it. Way to go Tigon Studios!
Brendoz
Well alot of you guys are saying you just wanna pirate the game because the games cost so much, Well ofc... you can get it free then get it free but then it might be buggy and no Online gameplay so pay 70$? (meh) Seriously you guys should be happy that you get it for such a low price, where i come from a single Game, no special content or anything just the game cost exactly 140$!!! im dead serious... but where i come from we dont use dollars we use something called DKK and 140$ is 700DKK. Just wanted to share that, so always remember you got it abit easier then us people here
DreadisDead
Hah, Noah you look a hell of a lot like Doug in this vid. :D
DerKleineDude
I hate copy protection. I buy every single game. I have to work hard for my addiction. DRM is like putting broken glass into the DVD case.
DoubleAgent74
As a completely unsurprising side note, this game has 89 ratings of 1 star out of 5 on Amazon.com as of 4/14/09. I didn't look through every single review, but the ones I did read slammed the game solely because of the DRM, and rightfully so.
8bitmessiah
that is why *add drum roll* you crack it TADA!
Rob
I don't even want to PLAY this game, and yet I suddenly feel the urge to pirate it... just to piss those bastards off.
J
I have 50 dollars on there being a version with no SuckRom or installation checks out there ... as long as you don't mind pirating
True, evilpaul, which is why services like steam are raking it in. Bypassing the entire publisher/distributor fiasco and in turn keeping all the money they make. But even services like steam have games on it that still have drm such as securom. Mostly because it's much easier to turn in a game to steam for publishing as-is than it is to make a steam-only version without DRM. You have to remember that much of this mess started with people who knew nothing about computers or games having say in how those computers and games were distributed.
Having a CD key for limited installs is essentially what this is. Most services like Securom offer the ability to revoke it but some don't. It's up to the publisher to allow people to revoke or not and it costs money to run a service indefinitely that allows infinite reinstalls through revoking.
To the person who mentioned DRM to prevent used game sales...you can do the same thing with a CD key and tying any online play or subsequent installs to some a "SomeGameCompany.com" account similar to Steam. CD key for the first install, logging into the online account for subsequent ones. Game companies could push DLC and whatever through that channel as well making them additional money.
Joe Gamer who buys PC games is less inconvenienced, only the hardcore will pirate it (who will anyway), and game companies don't look like total assholes.
Also, Spoony: *more Final Fantasy 8!!!* The SWAT review is entertaining, but seeing FF8 trashed for being horrible brings joy to my black heart. :-)
May I take a guess of the new review in the works? Is it Seventh Guest?
banedon
Reminds me of BIOSHOCK and Y2K (another game which had SecureROM DRM). Y2K released the game with 2 (yes just 2!) activations, and expanded it to 5 when the complaints came flooding in on their forums (a thread of about 170 posts atleast). Also, as a result, they released a program which deactivated a computer (and thus giivng back one of your activations after you'd played the game and uninstalled it) and promised that they would do away with the activation limit after a while - which they did. Seems to me that doing what Y2K did seems to be a good halfway house between DRM and non-DRM. They get their revenue for the prescribed period where they normally recoup their losses and make profile and eventually the game becomes essentially unDRM'd (and thus resellable in the 2nd hand market and people can install as many times as they like). Personally, I think DRM in the way Sony's SecureROM has been implemented in it's original form is ultimately counterproductive - it drives people in to the hands of the pirates, and/or away from the PC platform, and makes the game companies very unpopular. Of course there are reasons why DRM was introduced - some of them very understandable.
Joe Yourdick
haha made me laugh... exactly the reason why i wont buy it, was looking forward to it since riddick 1... damn shame.
PPDr
some of these comments are very well thought out, but the last few pages are missing something.
DRM isn't meant to directly hurt Pirates, unless you make indie games, pirates are not your main concern. DRM is made in more popular games to prevent second-hand sales from things like amazon or gamestop. Second-hand game sales is a major industry, and the publishers and distributors are excluded from that loop. When you're limited to 3 installs, it gives less of an incentive to sell that game second-hand. This is pretty much why no one sees any major chains that rent out PC games anymore. The closest I can think of that even does this anymore is gametap. With gametap you still miss out on a ton of games simply because it's not possible to legally distribute some games with things like securom to more than one customer. Piracy IS still a concern as thousands of people still do it, and if a small-time developer makes a game that isn't expected to get anymore than a few thousand sales (world of goo, braid, etc.) then that small-time developer is royally screwed.
MetalHeadMat
Why would you pay $55 for a game rental? And what store exsists that rent pc games?
Anonymouse
This is why Apple got rid of DRM shit. Fucking EA. Piracy ftw!
Lemunde
So basically if I want to play this game I either have to rape them in the ass or let them rape me in the ass...
Graylord
3 installations? How crappy, however, very easy to avoid.
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