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		<title>By: Biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spoony....

darkdaysarecoming.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spoony&#8230;.</p>
<p>darkdaysarecoming.com?</p>
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		<title>By: FiniNevermore</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiniNevermore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have blown my mind, sir.  If this had been the ending of The X-Files, I wouldn&#039;t have bailed out right before the last season.  Yeah, I know, why did I stay that long?  Because I was hoping something way more epic than the standard alien invasion was the secret.  It&#039;s dark, but I would watch the hell out of this, and recommend it to all my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have blown my mind, sir.  If this had been the ending of The X-Files, I wouldn&#8217;t have bailed out right before the last season.  Yeah, I know, why did I stay that long?  Because I was hoping something way more epic than the standard alien invasion was the secret.  It&#8217;s dark, but I would watch the hell out of this, and recommend it to all my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethgael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethgael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X-Files meets Charmed?

Awesome. Seriously. And awful, all at the same time. 

Yeah. I don&#039;t know what I mean, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X-Files meets Charmed?</p>
<p>Awesome. Seriously. And awful, all at the same time. </p>
<p>Yeah. I don&#8217;t know what I mean, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I was thinking I was alone in thinking that doing that would be a good idea, I really should have started reading these things earlier.
I even went so far that I&#039;m about to GM a X-files styled game of Call of Cthulhu in a few hours time, only I decided to set it in the town I live so that doctoring photographs actually will make the players feel like something weird is happening where they live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I was thinking I was alone in thinking that doing that would be a good idea, I really should have started reading these things earlier.<br />
I even went so far that I&#8217;m about to GM a X-files styled game of Call of Cthulhu in a few hours time, only I decided to set it in the town I live so that doctoring photographs actually will make the players feel like something weird is happening where they live.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but notice that in most of your ideas to &quot;fix&quot; a show or movie what you actually destroy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but notice that in most of your ideas to &#8220;fix&#8221; a show or movie what you actually destroy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that it is supposed to be a terrible idea but I still find this twist on X-files could make the show a lot more mysterious and it would give it a real unpredictable ending,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that it is supposed to be a terrible idea but I still find this twist on X-files could make the show a lot more mysterious and it would give it a real unpredictable ending,</p>
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		<title>By: Leviathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leviathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The X-Files was meant to be more of a modern-era Twilight Zone/Outer Limits that injected skepticism and open-mindedness into people&#039;s thoughts, but they also knit the episodes together with Mulder and Scully to give it a sort of soap-opera angle. I don&#039;t think the X-Files was ever meant to be taken seriously as a drama. It&#039;s a great show for staunch atheist skeptics and crystal-clutching UFO-chasing Alex Jones-listening wing nuts. You COULD make the Call of Cthulhu into a television series that kicked ass but didn&#039;t handle the supernatural aspects in the lazy manner Buffy and Angel or Roswell handled it, and introduce two diametrically opposed, sexually frustrated main characters akin to Mulder and Scully, but I wouldn&#039;t call it the &quot;X-Files&quot;. The word &quot;files&quot;, to me, indicates that it&#039;s a serial of individual stories that have nothing to do with one another, but are only sewn together by the two main characters who investigate them. I didn&#039;t bother looking for a big picture in that show because I knew it would be like asking for a big picture in Rod Serling&#039;s original Twilight Zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The X-Files was meant to be more of a modern-era Twilight Zone/Outer Limits that injected skepticism and open-mindedness into people&#8217;s thoughts, but they also knit the episodes together with Mulder and Scully to give it a sort of soap-opera angle. I don&#8217;t think the X-Files was ever meant to be taken seriously as a drama. It&#8217;s a great show for staunch atheist skeptics and crystal-clutching UFO-chasing Alex Jones-listening wing nuts. You COULD make the Call of Cthulhu into a television series that kicked ass but didn&#8217;t handle the supernatural aspects in the lazy manner Buffy and Angel or Roswell handled it, and introduce two diametrically opposed, sexually frustrated main characters akin to Mulder and Scully, but I wouldn&#8217;t call it the &#8220;X-Files&#8221;. The word &#8220;files&#8221;, to me, indicates that it&#8217;s a serial of individual stories that have nothing to do with one another, but are only sewn together by the two main characters who investigate them. I didn&#8217;t bother looking for a big picture in that show because I knew it would be like asking for a big picture in Rod Serling&#8217;s original Twilight Zone.</p>
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		<title>By: hem dazon</title>
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		<dc:creator>hem dazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good idea but not an x-files reboot I actually liked the whole consoirisy

this would be good as a whole new show though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good idea but not an x-files reboot I actually liked the whole consoirisy</p>
<p>this would be good as a whole new show though</p>
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		<title>By: Sabastian Bludd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabastian Bludd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other people have mentioned Delta Green so I&#039;ll just reaffirm that it&#039;s precisely what you&#039;re describing and it&#039;s worth checking out. I don&#039;t even play RPG&#039;s but the books (there are 3 source books and 4 fiction books) are fantastic reads even if you don&#039;t plan on ever playing.

I also highly, HIGHLY recommend The Atrocity Archives, a novel by Charles Stross. It&#039;s a combination of modern-day Call of Cthulhu (like Delta Green but with a British agency fighting the good fight) with a really excellent cyber-punk twist. Picture your X-Files reboot concept mashed together with the best elements of Snow Crash (i.e., no Sumerian &quot;language virus&quot; high concept bullshit) and set in modern day England and you&#039;d not be far off. It also includes the novella Concrete Jungle which is excellent in its own right. He published a sequel called The Jennifer Morgue that was his homage to Ian Fleming and it wasn&#039;t quite as good IMHO.

Below is a non-spoiler excerpt that I posted on another forum when I was trying to convince other people to check out this book. The book&#039;s written in the first person POV and this part deals with the protagonist talking to a weapons instructor about a HOG-3 (Class three Hand of Glory):

&quot;I take it that bullseye wasn&#039;t an accident?&quot;

I pick up the hand and remember to disarm it this time. &quot;Nope. You realise you don&#039;t need an anthropoid for this? Ever wondered why there are so many one-legged pigeons in central London?&quot;

Harry shakes his head. &quot;You young &#039;uns. Back when I was getting going we used to think the future would be all lasers and food pills and rockets to Mars.&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s not that different,&quot; I remonstrate. &quot;Look, it&#039;s a science. You try using a limb from someone who died of motor neurone disease or MS and you&#039;ll find out in a hurry! What we&#039;re doing is setting up a microgrid that funnels in an information gate from another contiguous continuum. Information gates are, like, easy; with a bit more energy we can crank it open and bring mass through, but that&#039;s more hazardous so we don&#039;t do it very often. The demonic presences--okay, the extraterrestrial sapient fast-thinkers on the other side--try to grab control over the proprioceptive nerves they can sense the layout of on the other side of the grid. The nerves are dead, like the rest of the hand, but they still act as a useful channel. So the result is an information pulse, raw information down around the Planck level, that shows up to us as a phase-conjugated beam of coherent light--&quot;

I point the hand at the downrange target. Two smoking feet.

&quot;What will you do if you ever have to point that thing at another human being?&quot; Harry asks quietly.

I put it back on the rack hastily. &quot;I really hope I&#039;m never put in that position,&quot; I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other people have mentioned Delta Green so I&#8217;ll just reaffirm that it&#8217;s precisely what you&#8217;re describing and it&#8217;s worth checking out. I don&#8217;t even play RPG&#8217;s but the books (there are 3 source books and 4 fiction books) are fantastic reads even if you don&#8217;t plan on ever playing.</p>
<p>I also highly, HIGHLY recommend The Atrocity Archives, a novel by Charles Stross. It&#8217;s a combination of modern-day Call of Cthulhu (like Delta Green but with a British agency fighting the good fight) with a really excellent cyber-punk twist. Picture your X-Files reboot concept mashed together with the best elements of Snow Crash (i.e., no Sumerian &#8220;language virus&#8221; high concept bullshit) and set in modern day England and you&#8217;d not be far off. It also includes the novella Concrete Jungle which is excellent in its own right. He published a sequel called The Jennifer Morgue that was his homage to Ian Fleming and it wasn&#8217;t quite as good IMHO.</p>
<p>Below is a non-spoiler excerpt that I posted on another forum when I was trying to convince other people to check out this book. The book&#8217;s written in the first person POV and this part deals with the protagonist talking to a weapons instructor about a HOG-3 (Class three Hand of Glory):</p>
<p>&#8220;I take it that bullseye wasn&#8217;t an accident?&#8221;</p>
<p>I pick up the hand and remember to disarm it this time. &#8220;Nope. You realise you don&#8217;t need an anthropoid for this? Ever wondered why there are so many one-legged pigeons in central London?&#8221;</p>
<p>Harry shakes his head. &#8220;You young &#8216;uns. Back when I was getting going we used to think the future would be all lasers and food pills and rockets to Mars.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not that different,&#8221; I remonstrate. &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s a science. You try using a limb from someone who died of motor neurone disease or MS and you&#8217;ll find out in a hurry! What we&#8217;re doing is setting up a microgrid that funnels in an information gate from another contiguous continuum. Information gates are, like, easy; with a bit more energy we can crank it open and bring mass through, but that&#8217;s more hazardous so we don&#8217;t do it very often. The demonic presences&#8211;okay, the extraterrestrial sapient fast-thinkers on the other side&#8211;try to grab control over the proprioceptive nerves they can sense the layout of on the other side of the grid. The nerves are dead, like the rest of the hand, but they still act as a useful channel. So the result is an information pulse, raw information down around the Planck level, that shows up to us as a phase-conjugated beam of coherent light&#8211;&#8221;</p>
<p>I point the hand at the downrange target. Two smoking feet.</p>
<p>&#8220;What will you do if you ever have to point that thing at another human being?&#8221; Harry asks quietly.</p>
<p>I put it back on the rack hastily. &#8220;I really hope I&#8217;m never put in that position,&#8221; I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenomorph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenomorph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather like this idea, though it wouldn&#039;t have to necessarily be an X-Files reboot; the basic premise would work pretty well on its own. I rather like the break away from the common &quot;evil government&quot; trope that just plagues TV shows and films like this. It&#039;s one of the reasons I enjoyed Men In Black, despite the fact that it used the stereotypical &#039;government covering up the existence of aliens&#039; schtick, because it showed the government as actually trying to do the right thing (even if you take issue with the assumption that knowledge of the existence of aliens should be kept secret). An X-Files-esque show would be better served by a more &quot;grey&quot; government, where they are trying to do the overall right thing (stopping the Elders), but taking some pretty nasty measures to get there. The shift of what you thought were the &quot;bad guys&quot; into the &quot;sorta good guys&quot; also makes for good drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather like this idea, though it wouldn&#8217;t have to necessarily be an X-Files reboot; the basic premise would work pretty well on its own. I rather like the break away from the common &#8220;evil government&#8221; trope that just plagues TV shows and films like this. It&#8217;s one of the reasons I enjoyed Men In Black, despite the fact that it used the stereotypical &#8216;government covering up the existence of aliens&#8217; schtick, because it showed the government as actually trying to do the right thing (even if you take issue with the assumption that knowledge of the existence of aliens should be kept secret). An X-Files-esque show would be better served by a more &#8220;grey&#8221; government, where they are trying to do the overall right thing (stopping the Elders), but taking some pretty nasty measures to get there. The shift of what you thought were the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; into the &#8220;sorta good guys&#8221; also makes for good drama.</p>
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