Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Review (6-25-09)

the gods of the transformers universe are the god of chaos and order, the god of order is the transformers home planet (which was said to have bin destroyed). most of the shit Mitchel bay brought up like transformer eggs, does happen in some of the other series's. still this movie has massive plot holes.

"Transformers made you turned on Oliver Stone. I don't know who you are anymore."
Best last line ever in a Spoony review.

I only got 5 minutes into Doug's review before I HAD to come back and watch the part about the Dutch angles again to make sure this was the movie you were talking about. I can't believe I remembered that. xD Wooow.

I'm only 19:12 into part 1 of your review, and I couldn't agree with you more about this movie. I actually got into an arguement with someone I worked with about the film some time later, and he brought out the "what do you expect in a [insert cliche] movie" excuse. Now, at the time, I couldn't think of a rebuttal because just having to think about the movie infuriated me. But a friend of mine came in for the save and he answered, "The Dark Knight." Just by comparing the two films, it's a friggin' no-brainer when you think of both movies as a whole.

You think The Dark Knight was just another dumb cash-magnet?

What I mean to say is that The Dark Knight is superior to Transformers: ROTF in every way. And when I go to watch a movie that mostly caters to fanboys while allowing the average movie-goer to enjoy the film, said film should, to say the least, respect the source material. Whereas Michael Bay openly hates the Transformers franchise, and the only reason he's doing these movies is so he could blow sh*t up and make money off the idiots who gush over every minute of it. I like it when stuff blows up, but when the main story is pointless, so are the explosions. Dark Knight was, for the most part, intelligent. And I don't mean in an artsy-fartsy kinda way; I mean at no point did the movie insult the audience.

great review! but wow your brother looks nothing like you, spoony! he even looks a little hispanic!

You forgot to mention ONE important thing in that movie, that made me realize that this movie didnt even need to get made. I hope you see this comment and even think about it very deeply.

This movie had no purpose to being made what so ever. Remember when that main character went up to "robot heaven" and they had that very 'smart' quote "The all spark is not found, it is given" That means, THIS WHOLE MOVIE WAS ENTIRELY POINTLESS!!!! The main character could have wipped his ass for two hours and it would have amounted the same as what he did in this movie

Running time? That's all you have is Running Time? And Batman and Robin, That's a bigger Abomination than TF:ROTF could ever be. It took the Baddest most destructive Batman Villain a character that was supposed to be Batman's equal and turns him into a mindless gimp. Other than that I agree with most of the movies. TF:ROTF wasn't as good as the first one and there are tons of movies that I would watch other than it.

Batman and Robin ISN'T One of them.

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is an offensive abomination! A huge let down!

Ive watched Transformers 1.. Its so tempting to shorten it and say T1 which I think Mr. Bay knows, but I would rather suck off Mako's earthly remains than call Transformers 1 T1 and so on..
Ive tried to watch Transformers 2.... Got to like... 30mins in.... Kill me... Kill me... kill me...

i saw this after watching this review with a friend who broke his leg i swoled some pride and watched it thinking ah its still only a movie and it may suck but it will end i got crystal skull flash backs its awefull i cant say ive seen worse and ive seen turkish star wars and porno hollicost brono matti is a better derector then michal bay

Well, I finally watched it. Mainly because I've watched/read dozens of reviews that described how terrible it was, but there are some things I need to witness for myself before I can concur with the general opinions of the reviewers.

My conclusion: Transformers 2...it's not a train wreck. Train wrecks' have a certain bent appeal, that no matter how terrible it is, you want to know how it unfolds, and what caused it in the first place. Truth of the matter was that Transformers 2 was one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, essentially an entire movie composed of close-up CG action sequences and pointless displays of comic relief. I actually stopped the movie at the one hour, thirty-seven minute mark so I could go to sleep; very few movies have the effect of the over-the-counter leading sleep aid on the market, but this one accomplished that feat.

Funny thing is that I felt I was watching an Air Force recruiting commercial during that last half of the movie. Being in the Air Force, I know a recruiting commercial when I see one (Do Something Amazing, Cross into the Blue, etc.). The part that slays me in particular was that the Technical Sergeant from the first movie is suddenly a Chief Master Sergeant in two years (E-6 to E-9? Must have two Medals of Honor under his belt). I know it's Hollywood, but a little accuracy can go a long way.

It's bad. Very bad. Not the worst movie I've ever seen (that honor goes to The Dungeonmaster), but I'd place it in the "Uwe Boll" category. If Michael Bay and Uwe Boll are involved in some sort of bet as to who can create the worst adaptation of a franchise, Michael Bay wins this round.

My god... thank you for this review.

I can not stress this enough! You've saved 2 problems in my life, Spoony.

First, a guy i thought about dating says that this movie is really great and invited me over to watch it.

After seeing this review, i will not go over there to watch this road rash piece of shit and i probably shouldn't be dating anyone who honestly thinks this is a good movie.

Thank you Spoony and Spoony-Bro, Miles. I owe you guys.

I personally refuse to watch the Transformers movies, myself. They... shall we say, don't appeal to me, and I'm appalled that they made so much money.

To have just been informed here that Twilight won awards, however... my god. My GOD. I feel unclean. I feel even more unclean seeing that the one-by-six that is Kristen Stewart won a Best Female Performance award. This is a travesty.

I have to vomit profusely now.

Spoony One, Wing Commander BLOWS SO MUCH!!!! I love WC so much and I own just about every game and book of WC, but I will NOT get that movie! I will watch Transformers 2 rather then WC! Man I am sorry but I HATE every second of the WC movie! It's just wrong on every level.

The whole decpiwhore girl is sapposed to be one of the old pretenders I think spoony, so it does hold relative point. but all in all I understand your point, but I watched this movie mainly because I just watch movies....

I tried talking to one of the saps who enjoys this movie, explaining why it's unhealthy for his mind and all, and he just fucking went apeshit and threw a hissy fit basicaly. That just goes to show you what human kind has become thanks to Bay. A bunch of fanaticle retards who'd rather let their brains deflate and rot than to have standards and grow smarter. That's why I'm glad to be an extra terrestrial.

I mean listen to this dumbass:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxl46qtn0hg

Oh yes, because anytime a robot acts gangsta it makes it automatically black and racist. Whatever X(

I thought the movie was ok, but agree that it was way to long and the transformers look way to alike. It was hard to follow action scenes.

It looks like the third one is official, considering how much money this film made, I'm not too surprised.

I think what made me hate it the most was the numerous sex jokes, the bland shitball of a story, and the anti-climatic ending. The ending was definitely a big frichin let down. It's 2 minutes, maybe less, of Optimus fighting Megatron and The Fallen and Optimus beats both of them in like a minute, its so poorly done...

This movie would have been decent without the sex jokes I can agree with you on that. And I can definitely agree on the plot holes. But I still went to this movie hoping that maybe, just maybe Micheal Bay actually did justice to the Transformers. Unfortunately I was pretty wrong and whats worse it seems that people don't realize that the holes in this film, because I can forgive the first one for at least being consistent with the characters in personality, extend past just the plot. For instance when I heard that Sideswipe was going to be in the movie I instantly thought "Awesome the twins are going to be in there! Woot jet judo!" because I thought that Sunstreaker, Sideswipes twin brother, was going to be in it. Instead they take two totally unrelated characters who were in two different series, and one was actually a Decepticon in the series he appeared in, and make them twins! What the hell?! I found myself wondering the entire movie about where had Sunstreaker gone? And not only that, characters like Jolt and Acree didn't get any lines at all! I understand that they aren't big character but why put them there if they didn't get any lines, even small ones. The sad thing is that some of these characters have pretty recognizable car models, and I'm going to use the real twins as an example once more. Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are Lamborghinis in the original G1 series, red and yellow Lamborghinis. How can you mess that up?! In fact a lot of these characters have colors, at least, that make them stand out. For instance Ironhide is not black in color but red, Rachet was white and red, Jazz(I know he died but I'm still counting him) had black, blue and white, and so on and so forth. I've read fanfics that are more consistent with the original series than this movie and those are better too! I can forgive the first one as a trial and error kind of movie but the second one...God I can't believe how much it shat all over the original series and even all of the ones after that.

Now as far as the whole reproduction thing goes, since it seems to have you very confused, I've never heard of pods in anything other the new Animated series, which weren't as grotesque and held the protoforms of Cybertronians whose sparks had yet to be transferred to them. This thought process goes along with the idea of spark melding, its generally used in a romantic sense since supposedly it creates a bond between the two melding sparks and sometimes, I'm not entirely sure, creates another spark which in a sense is the baby mech without its metal body. Honestly there are so many ways Transformers seem to reproduce. But Micheal Bay is way off in any case. The idea that he is using, I guess with all the dick jokes, and I kid you not is called plug and play. Don't ask where I found that out, it makes me shudder to think about it...

Anyway, great review. You were pretty thorough and pointed out somethings that I didn't realize.

I didn't see the entire thing, but I saw the ending in Egypt and what not. I am so glad I didn't because even that part felt pretty lame.

Ouch. that's pretty harsh, spoony. I retaliate by saying fuck you for ogling megan fox. sure, she's hot. so is the whore who works at my local Fridays. I wouldn't fuck either of them. For me, my hard on for a hot chick lasts until they open their mouths. If they speak something intelligent, or smart, or sensible, or pretty, I like them. If, like Fox, they dribble bullshit that scalds my ears, I go limp like my granny's in the room, and no amount of blue pills can bring it back. So fuck you, Spoony, for liking megan fox.

other then that, though, spot on with everything else.

My favorite review here, mainly because your reaction to this movie was basically the same as mine. I forced myself to watch this after hearing and reading how bad it was, because I knew I couldn't truly judge until I saw for myself. So, I went in with an open mind, and from that point was thoroughly bombarded with 2 1/2 hours of the worst thing I've ever seen on screen. I've seen some bad movies, the the bad-yet-enjoyable ones, and the what-the-fuck-is-this ones. This is the first movie to truly piss me off. It takes a lot to piss me off, and this movie succeeded at it within the first 15 minutes. In fact, I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. Sitting through the entire movie was possibly the hardest thing I've even had to do. And what pissed off the most was the audience's reaction to it. Were we just watching the same fucking movie? Was I the only one who noticed just how asinine everything going on was? And one of my co-workers tried to tell me that this movie compared to the Dark Knight. THE FUCKING DARK KNIGHT! It's a complete insult to human intelligence. There, I said it. As was said, if they would've edited about 30 minutes to an hour of this movie, it would've actually have been enjoyable. Instead, we get a movie full of more padding than the first one, comedy that's more annoying than funny, numerous plots than go to shit, characters that don't help the story whatsoever, the list goes on. The dick jokes alone were unnecessary, especially for a movie the Bay personally marketed for kids. That now leads me to the twins. If you don't believe that the twins (and a few other characters) don't have some serious racial overtones, then you are incredibly naive. Overall, this is an awful movie. This is a clear example of what NOT to do when making a movie. The plot's all over the place, they overdo the potty humor, none of the characters are very realistic, and so on. Funny, they focused most on the humans, rather than the Transformers like they should have from the start. Yet, they even failed at that. The people very unrealistic, unrelateable, and extremely annoying. The exception for me is Tyrese's character, who has a a look on his face for most of the movie that basically says "Why the fuck am I here?" I know Tyrese, I asked the same question to myself. I also ask why Michael Bay took on a franchise he honestly doesn't give a shit about. Although, I probably shouldn't ask, considering that we've made him so much richer.

Actually this movie is 150 minutes and LOTR (normal cut) is 178 minutes, and Kurosawas Ran is 160 minutes.

I have say, alot of those who are commenting sounds like like a bunch of pretenious jerks. If someone else enjoyed it, they are not by default morons.I liked it and have a college education, worked on fighter planes,and have an IQ of 128 I suppose Im somehow an idiot for liking a movie. Sorry you hated it and found it to be an unpleasant experience, anyone who did. It's not going away either. Theres been two, if you didnt like them...dont go to see the 3rd!

Theres definitely going be a 3rd. I know people of all ages who enjoyed it. Myself as a long time fan, my sister and her kids whom I took, my girlfriend, and even one of my co workers whos in his 70s greatly enjoyed the films when I loaned him my DVDs. People do geniuely like it. Even if the haters who probably linked spoony's review(which was kind of weak review I lost interest in it and turned it off.) I enjoyed spoony's review of other stuff, but he seemed so off balance by the whole thing he couldnt even properly fabricate a solid arguement against it and needed bring in his brother. Like the movie kicked his ass and he had get his older brother to fight for him heh. Which is rather comical in itself.

If you really think spoony that this movie was racist, lets really deconstruct this train of thought then. Ive seen enough people claim this, but I have say I dont agree with them. In for this movie be racist that would imply all transformers are a race or emulating one. So does that mean all the rest of the robots are a race too, and if so what are they and on what grounds are this race? Is simply the voice actor? The way they speak, what they look like? serious for you be right and have proof there has be a consistent pattern between all other transformers for that to hold true. Are we simply prescribing to the tabula rasa notion all characters are white if they lack a defining trait that doesnt jump at you?

So if it's simply the voice actor, Skids is voiced by a white voice actor. Remo williams also voiced Frenzy in the first film as well as Mudflap.If the characters were so out and out offensive you think Remo Willaims would have played Mudflap? Jazz has always been voiced by a black actor in G1, Animated, and the movie, which Darius McCrazy who voiced him said it was an honor to follow in Scatman Crothers shoes. Yeah thats really racist if its an honor play a character. Which I'm white and Jazz was always one of my favorites too,he was a cool character, I was sad they killed him in the movies. Things that are universally awesome have no race, as they belong to everyone.

Sure the Fallen is also voiced by a black man, but you know what, a white guy has voiced Megatron for last 25 years, whos pretty much the metallic version of Hitler.(even with the nazi like flags in the comic version) Majority of the decepticons are voiced by white actors (is hasbro saying all white people are evil? No cause we aren't retarded.), but since when is who plays a character a reflection on the person or their race? If it were no one would want to ever act as a villain.

The whole we don't read thing, thats ripped totally out of context. If you watched the movie and paid attentioned NO ONE CLAIMED THEY COULD READ THE GYLPHS BUT JETFIRE AND THE FALLEN! Not bumble bee, not Wheelie, not megatron or the twins. So how is that racist if only a handful of characters could read the symbols? Again this all stems from one thing, people who assume this is racist have negative stereotypes locked in their head. They re connecting dots the movie didn't.

If someone drew a small gremlin and had them setting off fireworks and laughing evily, then someone asks them whats that, you reply it's Michael Bay. I then show the picture to Michael Bay, he goes hey neat lil monster I might use that in a film. He doesnt get offended despite it was a shot at him. Why..because he doesnt see himself that way.

And the people who dont get offended by the movie dont see themselves as goofy idiot posers, as they dont consider that their race.(my friend who didnt care for the film since shes a G1 fangirl, is black and bashed the movie plenty, she'd said was racist if she thought so since she never sugarcoats.) If you consider being goofy looking buck teeth, dumb and talking Gangsta what a black person is as thats first thing that pops into your head then may be you re the racist.

I come from chicago, I have plenty of postive black role models to look up and dont connect those dots. People like Michael Jordan,Scott Pippen, Walter Payton, Lovie Smith, Derek Lee. None of these men remind me the slightest of the twins. I dont connect nothing but bad things to them.

What does remind me of the twins, poser idiots whom I think we re supposed to laugh at heh(like in the video of boys in the hood by dynamite hack, just first thing I think of when I see the twins.). Which African Americans, last I knew werent laying claim to being poser idiots as Gangsta isnt a race. Neither is talking like a surfer or a hippie like beachcomber does. No more than talking like Clint Eastwood as Ironhide does, or Mirage in the original series talking like Dean martin, or grimlock like a caveman.

They are simply robots coming from another world learning our language through the world wide web and talking on jargon that suits their personality as the first movie clearly described. The twins happen be basically kids who are trying really hard act cool. My best friends lil brother was same way, as he did all kinds of stupid stuff prove he was hard as older kids. It's funny how many kids emulate Gangsta here, and my neighborhood is mostly hispanic.

I fail see how this train of thought really has a leg to stand on. Anymore than saying the cars in Cars are white trash cause Larry cable guy voiced a buck toothed tow truck. I dont see critics headhunting them down for that, I think we can let this go too. Besides when were critics considered experts on anything besides movies? I wouldnt trust concepts like race relations to likes of them.

Other points, I never had any trouble telling what transformers were what. Every single autobot is a different color infact. I suppose i walked into the movie knowing ahead of time what characters were supposed be what, but I never confused megatron or starscream. Not even in the first film. I understand the first film was harder to follow, but the second movies were zoomed out more.(especially in the Imax version, which the extra footage isnt that much longer.) The I cant tell what Im looking at arguement doesnt hold up. (or may be you shouldnt sat in the second row heh.)

Either way its a fun movie, and actually pretty much follows a G1 plot for the people complaining its not enough like G1. Decepticons create an evil plot that will cause serious damage to the earth in order to extract energon. (thats 80% of the stories right there for season 1 and 2.) Sure they could trim the fat a bit, but its supposed be transformers in the real world, not in this world where they simply fight and have all robots. (plus be really damn expensive.) The original cartoon and comics basically just treated like any other super heroes and villains fighting and the world just is ignored around them. The movie tried inject some realism to situation I felt was kind of over due in the transformers series as we actually get to see directly how their prescence effects the world.(which they did their homework on the miltary stuff as they show and do stuff by the book.)

The human characters also take some of the nerd centric hard edges off the property and give something relateable to audience. Like Sam going off to College, my mom bawled her eyes out when I was going off to the air force, or the notion of getting your first car in the first movie.Its all stuff we ve experience or will. Its normal and sets people up for all the extraordinary stuff that follows. If they wanted do an all robot movie(like 86 film that horrible bombed.), they d been better served making a CGI movie in vein of the recent TMNT movie than a live action one.

This long enough so Ill cut it here. Hate it if you like, it doesnt take away from my experience as I own both movies and eagerly look forward to the 3rd. They had their weak spots in their armor, like the lack of bot time in the first(budget issues.) or the more than Id care for in crude humour. But it got the job done well enough. im not claiming its the greatest anything, merely that I liked it. (if I were a fanboy I'd be stating greatest movie ever!!)

Theres alot worse movies that been made even in this year. (district 9 was awful.)Or ever like Blaire witch project, spice world,wing commander , reign of fire or Date movie. I can think of dozens of movies that were far worse even if you hated this one.

I can hardly remember most of the movie and I just watched it for the first time yesterday. The only thing that would probably have been memorable was the effects and I've never really cared about them. It was just silly and boring.

I just checked back through the rest of the comments and did see that soundwave came up so ... yeah ...