Creator commentary is here!
In this final part of the review, I attempt to defeat Final Fantasy VIII once and for all using all of my scientific knowledge to compress time. Witness as I bring about the end of an era in this explosive conclusion to my most epic and notorious review.
Nothing will be the same again!
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good question….
As a gay man who HATES “Eyes on Me” I find it hilarious that the man cards are bright pink. Matches my boa ;)
I am not sure if I find it more sad that I watched this enjoying every second of it, or facing the fact that when I was 12 this game was everything I wanted gaming to be….funny how we learn as we get older…how dumb we once were. I was awaiting every new FF release for it to be as good as the first time i played one, and I realized It wasn't that they were getting so much worse, I was just becoming more aware that they had gone down hill a while ago.
If only they weren't so pretty….oooh shiny!
“(Hey, for a guy who doesn't like FFVIII, you sure have a lot of merchandise. Don't those doll things cost piles of real can-buy-tacos-with-it dollahs? No snark, just curious.)”
Try out the creator commentary. Those were donations.
“When I played Final Fantasy VIII, I primarily focused on the gameplay attributes rather than every little thing that didn't seem to make sense.”
Er, yeah. Did you watch the entire collection of videos? The gameplay attributes was what pissed him off first and foremost.
“After all, this doesn't take place on Earth and it IS a video game, so I couldn't help but take all of your complaints as looking waaay too far into things to get a point across.”
If the storyline doesn't make sense, people look into the gameplay as the saving grace. If the gameplay is irritating, it doesn't help if the characters aren't engaging or the storyline isn't making any sense. For Spoony, both gameplay and storyline is so severely nonsensical, that's what he complains about.
“That point being your hatred of Final Fantasy fans, or at least what seems like it.”
Yes, because calling Squall “Emo Git” is a reflection that it's the fans that's forcing Spoony to like a “decent” game.
“Fans are going to go too far with anything and everything, and just because they act like complete idiots doesn't mean the thing those idiots adore is of any less value on their behalf.”
I'd say.
“I say all of this because of your claims that anyone who liked this game sucks and the obvious bashing of everything Final Fantasy. And not only is it unnecessary, but it also has to do with a blatant disregard of the fact that it's not American.”
He actually liked FF (the video before was an April Fool's Joke). And FF VII. That doesn't necessarily mean that those games don't have any flaws whatsoever, which is why he lambasted them too. He's severely disappointed of what FF VIII (and future titles) have become because of the great experiences he had with Final Fantasy previously, so it's not his “foreign misconceptions” or “lack of being weaboo” that led to him to rant about FF VIII in a “totally unnecessary” manner.
“I will agree that this wasn't my favorite Final Fantasy game, and honestly it doesn't live up to the two former games in the series for me, but it still delivered, and if it's not for you, then you probably shouldn't be delving into a genre that isn't suited to you.”
Yes, Spoony. Don't complain about FF VIII. It's needless and no one else agrees with you.
Oh wait…
Okay, okay, my points weren't exactly perfect. Yes, I know Spoony takes games he doesn't like and makes fun of them for humor, but this particular game, while it isn't that great, doesn't mean it deserves the same exact treatment as the other games he reviews. It really just seemed like he was grabbing at everything he could and exaggerating endlessly about them.
Unfortunately, I have a fanboy directly below me and it's not exactly easy to defend the same thing he is. I don't have any particularly special memories of playing FFVIII, so it's not something I hold dear to me or anything, it's just that I felt this review was a display of Spoony's hatred towards fanboys. And trust me, I don't need to go far to see a video with that premise.
However, I don't disagree with anything you've said, and I probably should have kept my comment to myself.
Think Ultimecia got the same motivation that Alfred says that Joker possesses.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Or the world wouldn't burn if time was abolished?! Fuck it. But you contradicted yourself in part 09 in this finale video. In 09 you state that Limit Breaks is useless/sucks, and in the finale you've changed and says Squalls LB is OP. The only good excuse for this is that you hadn't seen Lion Heart before (or Pulse Ammo , the End etc.). But this isn't your first playthrough, is it? :P
FF8 is a guilty pleasure of mine, and as always your videos kicks ass, even the tenth time you watch them.
WTF FF8 published by Squeenix. It didn't exist in 1999. FF8 was published by Square (or Squaresoft) and Eidos Interactive.
No, your view isn't worthless, but you're taking something funny very seriously. It was serious enough to make me laugh.
Spoonys ff8 reviews has flaws, and so does the game (but both are entertaining imo).
This entire review reminded me heavily of Linkara's JLA review on AT4W. Both were reviewing fucking TERRIBLE plot and characters.
Although to be fair, I always felt that FF8's biggest problem lay not in its bad plot and characters (I mean, it's a game, how concrete do you expect it to be?), but its mind-numbing boredom. It just isn't fun to play. And it isn't fun to cheat through it either. When it's not fun to friggin' break the friggin' game, you know something has gone wrong somewhere.
It's true.
This video series was simply E-P-I-C.
I have massively mixed feelings about FF8. I think the original premise is good, I love the scifi world, and the first disc is pretty cool. Drawing is lame but I started to like the junction system by the end. It became a challenge to keep my level as low as possible while having as high stats as possible.
The story after the SHOCK TWIST with the orphanage unravelled quickly and mercilessly. Ulty is the worst FF villain ever, and just all that implausible stuff is completely crap.
Yet somehow that game won me over. I have played the thing at least 5 times through all the way, including EVERY sidequest, including beating Omega Weapon. My finishing party level has consistently been below 50 (except Squall sometimes). I've won all cards, refined ridiculous amounts of everything and gained every GF. The only thing I haven't done is given Shockwave Pulsar to Quistis, as you need to steal hundreds of Curse Spikes and refine to Dark Matter… screw that.
Every time I play this game through I get a giddy thrill from getting ridiculously strong magic at the earliest point, and cruising through the bosses, casually drawing from them (which, FYI, is massively easier if you simply set the cursor setting to Memory and just tape down the X button, and go get a snack). I'm a massive completist when it comes to this game, and I enjoy that. Junctioning is second nature to me now.
The other part of me, the part that hates the stupidity of the game, thinks I am such a dweeb for writing what I just wrote. But shit, it's all true.
And I fucking cried at the end, at the bit with Laguna and Raine (not Juli). I'm not proud of that, but I was tired and had just completed a game I'd put 110 hours into. I think I had a right to.
You sound like my kinda FF VIII player. I found a nice spot and killed Forbidden after Forbidden to get the Curse Spikes, tho. I've even found a way to get Squall the Lionheart weapon on Disc 1. PAIN IN THE ASS…but very do-able. ;)
Didn't he just say that limit breaks are the only thing where the charakters are distinguishable? ^_^
Whatever :-)
Awesome work spoony. I owned the PC-Version back than and my playthrough time was at least 100-150 hours -.- I sold it afterwards. Did you knew that the PC-Version was at some time so rare that you could get more money for it over ebay than you had to pay in the first place?
Even now there are extremely expensive auctions online. Just check it on ebay o.O
What? You didn't play Crazy Train during the summoning sequence? Fail, Spoony, fail.
I was expexting something like “Now you're a pussy” after the ending credits since we had to listen to all that song! XD
Anyway, Great review! And I have to admit, even if FFVIII is (and probably will always be my favourite game of all time you listed some good complaints… ;)
Of course Spoony doesn't hate this game, I can't believe some people think that. It isn't even an actual review, more like him going loosely through the game and finding out stuff he can crack admittedly hilarious jokes about. If you want to see him actually not like a game, check the Deadliest Warrior video.
Naturally he can't admit this because these videos are the biggest reason for his popularity, but really it's absurd to think he actually hates the game.
i still don't know how this fucking game ends.
i still don’t know how this fucking game ends.
Either this is Spoony incognito coming clean after all these years, or it’s a big TSE and FF8 fan with some major cognitive dissonance trying to justify why 2 things he loves just can’t get along. I’m seriously betting on number two.
The guy has spent, from almost day one, his entire web career ranting about the metric tons of suck he believes this game holds. Now, I like FF8, and might even crack it again one day, but I enjoyed these videos a lot without feeling dirty. I really just wanted to let you know – it’s okay. You can cosplay with your gunblade and wait for Spoony to finally release that Deadliest Characters video with bated breath without feeling like you’re cheating on someone.
And if it helps, here is a quote straight from the SpoonyOne’s keyboard (a weapon much more potent than any gunblade apparently) in defense of fanboys everywhere:
“Final Fantasy VIII may suck, and you may suck for liking it, but I’m the captain of this suck-filled leaking failboat, and I’m not going to have some jerkoff movie critic who’s never cracked a Player’s Handbook in his life call my homies STUPID.” -Noah Antwiler on the Ebert incident
In the end, If I were to pick it to pieces, there are only 2 things that really get me about this game: 1) the time travel plot (it doesn’t make any sense. Okay, let’s say the future and past are unchangeable because both exist tangible at different coordinate points along a worldline in 4-D space (yes, if you prescribe to M theory there are 11, but let’s just say for the moment there are 4, and just handwave the fact that a particle has 1 dimension and not 0). Alright, that’s conceivable. However, what this game is suggesting is that you are going to COMPRESS time, in essence reducing all plot points upon the Time axis into 1, hereby reverting all events in space-time to occur in a single moment (point in time). Hence you are going to nullify all consisting events within the space time continuum (or compress them into the same coordinates, which would probably cause… I have no fucking idea what). Even disregarding the gravitational anomalies (including the Great Attractor) that distort space-time and hence would create derivatives in that event (multi-lining a single event that would make algebraic manifolds look like a piece of paper colored red (yes, that makes no sense AND THAT IS HOW MUCH SENSE THIS WOULD MAKE)), you would have no event to be causative of the compression in the first place and hence, would be unable to exist (unless the compression of the entire space-time continuum within one point in time would exponentially derive its own time axis… but that’s assuming that it isn’t simply taking multiple (i.e. infinite) versions of the same particle (or wave… depending on what you believe), and compressing them into the same time point with modifying so a tangential dimension doesn’t spawn from the inversion of different worldlines). IT WOULD FUCKING NULLIFY IT’S OWN EXISTENCE! It makes no sense *sobs*! I mean, this is only counting on the special theory of relativity. Damn it just doesn’t make sense!! AARGH *hits head multiple times against the wall*), and 2) the gun-blade (… why the fuck does a sword have a gun handle?).
That is my summary of FF8. Damn awesome reviews.
… Why am I bleeding?
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