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Hmm seems its more the Halo haters who are being the biggest douchebags, not the Halo supporters. I know its the lolz kewl thing to get on the bash on Halo with the fury of a thousand suns bandwagon these days, but heres a simple fucking method of unbunching the panties stuck deep in your asscracks. If you dont like the games, dont buy them. Lerning is phun! And this is comming from someone who isnt even really a Halo fan. I dont own any past the first game. I simply find so many of the people posting to be hypocritical twats who will feverishly bash on fanboys with much more fervor and single mindedness than the fanboys exhibit.
5 WAYS TO SAVE MONEY ON ODST
#1 DONT BUY IT simple as that
#2 STEAL IT im not condoning stealing but desperate times call for desperate measures if you want the game that bad
#3 trade in halo 3 with the purchase of odst because all youre doing is buying halo3 over again and a mini game
#4 wait a while for them to drop the price and then go buy it you wont be able to play it with some of youre wealthier friends right away but you will at least have the game
#5 and last but not least have youre system modded to play burnt games this way u just have to download and play and yes there will be a high cost at first but u can do the same with other games for the price of blank discs a hint for finding some one to do it for you search it on craigs list good chance of finding it as well as somone to fix the ring of death
so there you go the 5 ways to save money on odst
I didn’t read everything that has been posted. But.. If you beat the game in 3 hours, you aren’t playing on legendary, and you didn’t get all the achievements. I was forced to take some of my remaining vacation time, before the end of the year, and I picked the release of ODST to have the week off. I also have the week off for COD MW2, but thats just cause I don’t get sick alot at work. But whatever… We beat the campaign in like 5 hours, on legendary with 4 people. However it is much easier, with the respawn system, I mean if one person just hides in teh back, anyone who dies can just respawn and head back into the fun.
After that, we used the next two days to get all the achievements. The hardest one was endure, only because it was boring. I mean, we did it on winward, and just held the spawn. Anyone who got near it was dead, and it took too long. :) But, at midnight Thursday night, we had 100%’d the game, all the achievements, even the halo 3 new maps achievments, and I got my recon armor (yay :( ). But, I’ve played the eff out of that game, and I still love going thru the campaign. I wont play it on anything other than legendary tho.
As far as the same as Halo 1? WTF? R U SERIOUS? You don’t have crazy fast recharging sheilds, you don’t have super augmented jumping abilities, and you don’t have the luxury of a battle rifle, or equipment to help you along. The game was designed to deter people from run and gun style of play, and it worked. The game was a blast, and anyone who likes halo should play it for the story. The intel story is kinda lame… but the regular story is rather interesting. Its awesome knowing what happened back on earth, when the master chief was out owning the covenant/brutes/prophets.
If anyone needs to contact me… my gamer tag is Pepsi Blue. I probably wont be coming back to this site, I just got linked the video and found it funny.
Sooooooooooo many people flaming poor Spoony on this one…
So… I’ll add my own tale of the tape to the heap…
I, in real life, teach game design. I used to be a game designer. I worked for a couple game studios, actually worked for a couple not further than an hour from Spoony if I am right about him being in Mesa AZ.
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Ahem…
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Halo is crap.
From a design perspective Halo did more harm to gaming than any other first person shooter in the history of the genre. FPS games used to be hard. I mean really freaking hard. I mean you often didn’t get health back between levels let alone get health back from a regenerating health bar (excuse me, energy shield) that could fill up in less than 10 seconds of not taking it hit and that also had a secondary “hit register” (health) underneath it the way Halo did.
Legendary was easy, as it is in all Halo games, and it relies on knowing how to arc a grenade shot.
“Oh,” you say, “But HWalsh, what could you possibly know? Did you ever work on a Halo? Did you ever work on a First Person Shooter?”
To which I respond: “Nope, I never worked on a Halo, I did work on some FPS games though. The biggest name title I ever worked on was a My Little Pony educational game… While you may laugh at that, that particular game sold a lot of copies and I am totally content with that.”
Though HWalsh does know something else.
HWalsh isn’t only a game design teacher, he is also a game designer, and back in the 1990’s he was also a major competitor in the Nintendo World Powerfest finals in San Diego as well as tons of other stuff… HWalsh knows games.
Now, as far as what else Halo contributed:
Halo was probably the worst balanced game of all time. The pistol was stupidly lethal (killing in an average of 4 shots or 3 shots to the head.) and featured a zoom function making it a defacto sniper rifle… That was often more lethal than the actual sniper rifle.
The sniper rifle was incredibly broken as well due to it’s own insane rate of fire.
The best balanced weapons in Halo were the shotgun and the rocket launcher… And when we are calling a weapon that can kill you in one shot, in a vehicle or not, “balanced” then we know that we are dealing with a serious issue.
Let’s not even get started on the horrendous “Fuel Rod Gun” either…
Then there was Halo 2!
Halo 2 sucked.
They removed the health packs underneath the health bar… Er I mean energy shield… And they did fix the sniper rifle and the pistol. Then they introduced the sword and broke the game all over again. Suddenly Halo, a game that was supposed to be about fast paced shooting action became a glorified example of “Bushido Blade: The First Person Edition” as people focused on trying to land a one shot kill in melee on, usually, unsuspecting opponents with a mega-flight lunge attack.
Then came Halo 3…
Halo 3 was over-hyped, to the point of mental deficiency. Not only was it basically Halo 2 with a new skin. It was stupidly short due to the technological limitations of the Xbox 360. The game was able to be beaten, on legendary, while gaining all the skulls, in less than 5 hours… And I suck at console FPS games!
Now we have Halo ODST…
Which is nothing but Halo 1, with a Halo 3 graphical overlay, and a combination of all the flaws present in both Halo 1 and 2 for good measure.
The only good Halo was the RTS game, which makes sense because Halo was originally pitched to us computer gamers as an RTS almost a year before the Xbox was ever even announced.
Wow, TL;DR to the max.
It’s just a video game, it entertains people. If Halo is so bad why does every one play it?
Man… That was an awesome read HWalsh. If only you could sound more elitist, you’d be Dick Cheney. You’ll be just rollin in them big bucks when you make the perfect game and show those Bungie assholes…
Oh wait. Bungie is making big bucks. And a lot of people actually like their games? OMG! No justice! I’m gonna rant about it in my blog!
Really, this is just hilarious. Somewhat sad, but hilarious.
304.
I really dont understand why there is so much hatred towards halo, some people like it some people dont, Ive enjoyed every single halo experiance, regardless *if its the same thing*, imo, just having halo 3’s multiplayer with ALL the maps another disk is a god sent, I like the game even though you dont doesnt mean you have too go out of your way too right a fuckin story, or make a video on how much you hate halo, I like spoony, but there was no reason for this, yes freedom of speach but you knew where this would end up, imo, if you hate it, stop bitching about it and play a diffrent game.
I have to agree with you on this one Windslash. Typically, I like most of Spoony’s videos. But normally they address things from both of our respective childhoods that truly were horrible. This video wasn’t that kind of thing at all. It has no place on a site like the Spoony Experiment. I don’t see Spoony as someone who needs to waist time on brand new games. Especially games that aren’t that bad. They just illicit hatred from everyone who thinks it makes them cool to hate anything popular. Which is another reason why I wish Spoony would’ve left this one alone. I’ve been watching his work long enough to know that’s not how he is. But new viewers will see this video and immediately think “He’s just someone who hates ANYTHING that’s popular”, and won’t bother to watch anything else he’s done. And that’s really sad, because Spoony actually does good work. His videos are entertaining, and well worth watching. Yet if this video is the first thing you see from him, you definitely won’t get that impression at all.
What it all boils down to is this video is doing more damage than good. It makes Spoony look like like something he isn’t, and has the strong possibility of dissuading new viewers. Which isn’t fair to Spoony or the Experiment in general. Basically, this one should’ve just been left on the chopping block. Sometimes it’s better to just leave it alone. There’s a reason you wouldn’t see a video like this from James Rolfe. And it shouldn’t be here. It won’t make me any less of a fan of Noah or The Experiment, but it definitely doesn’t do either of them any good either.
First of all, excellent short Spoon, Made me laugh hard, similar to the “Review like a pirate” miniseries :)
I never understood the general HALO hype. In its conceptual stages (before the idea of MC was introduced in the first game) it had some interesting solutions, like squad-based combat and vehicle physics which were pretty new and flashy at the time.
Then it came out for the XBOX, not the PC and turned to by a typical FPP shooter. Not bad, but not very good either, especially due to the identical level design and the idea of “clear a room of enemies, proceed to the next room, clear it of enemies, proceed to the next room” and so on. It reminded me of run of the mill lightgun games.
Anywho by the time the game gets good (escaping the ship using the jeep), it is over.
Its multi-player wasn’t all that creative either, anybody who played Quake on line would probably agree with me.
The trouble is, it was a console game (I don’t even remember it getting that much of fame on the PCs), which meant a bit different market of people. As far as I remember, that was the first XBOX (and perhaps console?) FPP with decent multi-player combat, hence the unusual popularity. So, this Quake rip-off (multiplayer-wise) got a lot of popularity. Why did it continue to 3 games is beyond me, but I guess we have Microsoft and Bungie to thank for that. The latter have shifted to practically a single “Lets make HALO games forever!” business model, which is kind of sad, remembering Myth: The Fallen Lords for example.
So, HALO was stretched to Halo 2 and then Halo 3. For people who weren’t already catching on that Bungie is about to try and screw them for monies with the Halo franchise, the cliffhanger at the end of H2 should be a pretty good sign ;)
Now came ODST. Next, a Halo RTS. Then, with a revolutionary partnership with EA, The Sims: HALO edition. Then, with titans of the RPG genre, we will get Bioware-Bungies HALO: Doom comes to the galaxy and only YOU and team of sassy aliens can stop it! Finally, My Little Pony: Halo edition.
Enjoy!
wow hwalsh really?? i dont understand the hate. what is so bad about making an FPS more accessible? and are you really complaining about realistic weapons in a game set in the 26TH CENTURY?!?! and yeah i agree with spoony but once you add the awesome firefight mode, halo 3s addicting multiplayer with all the DLC maps, and the unique forge mode, i think the $60 price tag is justified. Look at it this way: halo 3 map packs cost ten bucks each. with mythic, legendary and heroic map packs added on to the $30 expansion pack value, well do the math. and if you think I’m an ass hurt fanboy, I WORK AT INFINITY WARD!
Halo revolutionized console-FPS gaming and pretty much kept the original Xbox afloat by itself.
That being said, the games aren’t very good. I mean, yeah, they can be entertaining, but the game design is mediocre and it didn’t bring anything new to the genre. To this day they haven’t gotten multiplayer quite right in any installment and, yes, all of the installments are same-y. I knew what this 5-sec video would be like before I even hit Play.
I know taste is subjective, and there are a lot of people out there who like Halo. I’m just stating that it’s not really an exceptional series in terms of design + relative to other games of the genre, which I don’t think is too far-fetched.
HWalsh, you hit it on the head. Halo did ruin fps for the most part. fps games were hard and long. I have in mind games like Half Life 1 – Shogo – Quake and many more. The fact that halo tries to be up there with the big boys makes me lol. It does not even compare to those oldschool pc games. Back in the day pc gamers had the monopoly on fps, and then came halo, the noob stick rip off. gaining legions of noobs jocks and lames, while the real hardcore gamers were owning. dude compare AVP2 to halo. Why do people even like this stupid game. The story never changes, the design sucks, ugh anyways I’m at a loss for words…..Halo is Dumb
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I do agree with you HWalsh, the game did ruin the genre quite a bit, but I did enjoy them as diversionary, with a somewhat original story (missing from alot of games.) I think the 5 second video could have been better if Spoony took the Halo 1 disk, put it in a Halo 3 box, and THEN stuck the “ODST” Label on it.
“It’s just a video game, it entertains people. If Halo is so bad why does every one play it?”
Ah, quality by popular vote. Right.
If Hannah Montana is so bad, why does everybody listen to her music?
its a game, calm down, it focuses on multiplayer wherin people get bonuses for in the campaign, so it is mainly appealling for multiplayer gamers and they are then pulled into the campaign. i agree about inbalanced weapons, and i honestly think combat evolved system of health made more sense, it made it so that if an enemy only got one or two shots in, you didnt regret it the whole time, but it was still a little too forgiving.
Hello, I heard there was some Halo flaming happening.
Well HWalsh you are obviously full of bullshit. Making games harder doesn’t make it better. Battletoads is widely regarded as one of the hardest games of all time (and to be fair was an alright game) but it wasn’t “good”. The levels and co-op mode were horrible and It didn’t bring anyhting new to the side-scrolling beat-em’ up genre. BUT WAIT, people still like it?How is that possible?Oh yes, opinions. The opinions regarding Halo and very varied but the people who actually matter (Big name reviewers, magazines, etc) all generally agree it’s a good game. Now these people are important,more important than you, so there opinion is better; Correct? You see, opinions suck since a person will always defend there own beliefs in anything. So Mr. Spoony you may have your opinions. HWalsh may have his. In my eyes, however, their horrible. But then again that’s just my opinion.
Being popular doesn’t make the Halo games bad, being bland carbon-copies makes the Halo games bad. They’re popular for the same reason Hanna Montana, the Backstreet Boys, and Dr. Phil are. They’re marketed well. That’s it. In any normal world a 5 hour long FPS with no real enhancements from its predecessors would be torn apart by quality critics, but in the world of marketable gaming Halo 3 was lauded as being one of the best games of the decade.
It’s not that they’re particularly BAD, it’s just that they’re exactly mediocre. Nothing about them is exceptional, and yet the industry seems to think that they are the second coming. That’s why there’s so much hate. Because when a game like the Halo series becomes a big name, it produces copies, clones, and rip-offs. It ‘revolutionizes’ the genre, making it so that anyone who thought that Halo 1-3 weren’t anything special now have to deal with year after year of Halo clones rather than anything original or challenging.
“Oh yes, opinions. The opinions regarding Halo and very varied but the people who actually matter (Big name reviewers, magazines, etc) all generally agree it’s a good game. Now these people are important,more important than you, so there opinion is better; Correct?”
Thats got to be the worst logic ever. Just because someone bigger and more important than you says a game is good doesnt make a game good. Its an FPS, Bungie would have to do something pretty stupid to fuck this up, as its probably the safest genre to create a game for.
Personally the biggest problem i have with it, is that they kept the “3″ in the Halo 3 ODST title. Since its set before 3 theres no reason for it to be in the title and is clearly just a way of getting the little kids to buy it.
You didn’t read what he said after that Quietus:
“You see, opinions suck since a person will always defend there own beliefs in anything.”
Way to catch that, lol.
all i can say quake 1= Original halo=GHEYLO
FPS games were never hard. If you though Quake, Half Life or even Doom were hard then you’re doing it wrong.
The Halo series is a good series in my opinion, I enjoy the single player, even if it’s a tad short, and the multiplayer is great, especially with friends.
Everyone is, however, entitled to their opinion. I just don’t like it when you jump on the “LOL GHAYLO SUX CUZ OF MICROSAWFT LULZ” bandwagon. If you have an informed opinion, then I welcome it.
And frankly, why the fuck should you care what other people think of a game, let alone how popular it is? I have a problem with Final Fantasy but I don’t go around saying “LOL FINAL FANTASY IS GAY AND STUPID” on the internet, now do I? Just play what you like, and ignore everyone else. If you don’t like a game ,then don’t buy, that’s the best way to voice your discontent with it.
Matt is among the most reasonable voice(s) here.
Too bad no one other than me will really acknowledge that.
HWalsh, thank you for the good laugh. Next time though, how about before you get some decent credentials before you start serving up that Elite Game Designer crock of shit? You worked on a bargain bin title and teach community college game design? Goddamn I’m talking to Shigeru Fucking Miyamoto here.
I’m sorry but Doom on maximum difficulty is quite hard the enemies have so many advantages its ridiculous.
It’s true, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, that doesn’t make it any less wrong. If you say that Halo is a good series, I will acknowledge the fact that you’re entitled to your opinion, and then proceed to tell you why you are wrong. Is Halo a decent franchise? No. Was Halo 1 a decent game? Yes. I enjoyed the first one very much so, actually. With each installment, however, I’ve gotten more and more disillusioned with the series, and now I just want Microsoft to stop flogging this proverbial dead horse.
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Where one gets his pedigree doesn’t matter when one has credentials to prop it up afterwords. The fact is I am a designer, I did it for a living, I got paid for it. Do you have any idea how much an intellectual property like “My Little Pony” for example is worth? Any clue? Probably not. Lets say, at the time, that property was actually worth as much as Halo due to it’s marketability in the children’s market, which, might I add, is often overlooked by “serious gamers” but the fact is, I did my time, I have my paycheck and yes, I do consider myself an authority on the subject.
They are opinions, but they aren’t baseless. At least I stated WHY my opinions are what they are.
(Oh and by the by, when you rip on Collins, let me remind you that your only other alternatives were UAT, which wasn’t accredited at the time and DigiPen, which I also attended but they are too programming-centric in their design course and are too “Nintendo-geared” in their processes which can clash with other companies.)
The fact is, when it boils down to the end of everything, Halo didn’t accomplish anything. It was well marketed and mediocre. It supported the Xbox but that was about it.
Hard doesn’t make a game good, but challenge does, Halo wasn’t a challenge. Not at all. Seriously, I can beat Halo 3 on Legendary AND get the stupid skulls in less than 5 hours, without a map or a walk-through or being very good at FPS games on a console.
Halo was FPS-lite, and it was INTENDED to be that. It is like a “beginner’s FPS” and it’s popularity wrecked the FPS industry single-handedly.
My points still stand. I am not claiming to be the father of Mario, as you quoted by name, I am claiming to have actual industry experience and logical explanations of WHY Halo blew chunks. Spoony is right, ODST feels like Halo 1 with a shiny sticker on it.
Note:
Halo also more or less invented the term, “DLC” which Micro$oft made people pay for. In the past we downloaded mods and maps for free. After the success of Halo and the DLC intended to go along with it, it announced to game publishers that they could charge for those same mods.
So things that started off as simple free mods, like Counter Strike and Team Fortress became full blown games and every time a map pack or major add on comes out, on a console at least, they want you to pay for something that probably took a professional team maybe two days.
Look, guys, opinions matter in the gaming industry because opinions shape industry trends. When a series becomes popular, it influences other game developers and publishers into developing similar games, because popular often equates to profitable.
This is why people get so upset with games like Halo. A game is marketed and hyped well, critics who may or may not be influenced by the publisher throw accolades at its feet, fans buy the game, and a trend is set. This essentially means that the FPS genre will follow Halo’s design for years to come.
And if ODST is successful, it means that developers and publishers will release glorified mission packs with barely 4 hours of content at full price. And you wonder why people get upset with Halo fans?
It’s not just about opinions, its about the health of the industry as a whole.
Halo only ‘revolutionized’ gaming by making every console FPS after it involve robots and stupid fucking aliens that apparently believed that this ringworld would provide salvation without even looking into it first and finding out that it would actually kill everything. Oh, and it also had grey steel corridors with nothing in them. The storyline was virtually- scratch that, COMPLETELY- non-existent, the people who play it are about as stupid a bunch as you can get, and most of all, it ruined gaming.
lol It never ceases to amaze me at the hate popularity can garner, whether its justified or not. Rash generalizations like this peach from post 324 somerandomdrewpickles: “the people who play it are about as stupid a bunch as you can get, and most of all, it ruined gaming.”
Wow, so anyone who enjoys playing Halo for any reason shares the same level of stupidity as Creationists? I never would have guessed that a game had any bearing on intelligence whatsoever.
Elitist mentality like post 301 from HWalshy: “HWalsh isn’t only a game design teacher, he is also a game designer, and back in the 1990’s he was also a major competitor in the Nintendo World Powerfest finals in San Diego as well as tons of other stuff… HWalsh knows games.”
So…you competed in a video game tournament almost 20 years ago? You didn’t even place apparently, just competed. Wow. I’m impressed. /sarcasm
post 323 from AcacianLeaves: “This is why people get so upset with games like Halo. A game is marketed and hyped well, critics who may or may not be influenced by the publisher throw accolades at its feet, fans buy the game, and a trend is set. This essentially means that the FPS genre will follow Halo’s design for years to come.”
While its true companies may try to copy Halos design hoping it leads to their own success, its not really guaranteed to work. When Mario brought platformers into full swing many companies tried to copy its design. While there are some cases of success like McKids, the majority of those copycats fell into obscurity. Now, Halo has been around for sometime, and I’m not big on FPS’s but it seems to me that if there were any copycats they haven’t done that well or they’d be more widely recognized. If companies truly wanted success in the FPS genre they’d fill their own niche that Halo was overlooking.
I lol at those who say Halo is a mediocre FPS, because in total truth, ALL first person shooters are relatively the same, with minor variations in gameplay and weapons. Its literally one of the easiest game types to design. Oh and bitching about a lack of story in a FPS is like bitching about a lack of story in side scrolling platformers. The only reason people play a FPS is to shoot something. I’ve never bought a FPS with the assumption that the story would be anything worth paying attention to and I never will.
I swear you people act like the gaming industry didn’t lose its roots to hardcore gamers when multi-platform games arrived. As it always does when it comes to opinions, it boils down to this; You dont like the series? Don’t buy their games. If enough people don’t buy the game, the series dies out. Just don’t kid yourself into actually thinking that your negative opinions about something are supposed to sway those who do like the game into hating it. It’s not. All it really does it make you seem like an asshole for imposing your opinions on others.
@325: “All first person shooters are the same with minor differences” is just another way of saying “Yeah I know it’s derivative, but everything is.”
Deus Ex is the same as Halo, then? System Shock 2? Pathologic? Rainbow Six? Half-Life? ALL the same as Halo? Don’t get me wrong, I like Halo, but objectively speaking, it SUCKS. HARD.
Now look what you’ve done, Spoony. Everyone’s raging about whether Halo sucks or not.
It’s just a frigging game and Spoony made a video with his opinion in it. Get over it.
“It has no place on a site like the Spoony Experiment. I don’t see Spoony as someone who needs to waist time on brand new games. Especially games that aren’t that bad. ”
have you ever read the banner of the site?
“Well HWalsh you are obviously full of bullshit. Making games harder doesn’t make it better. Battletoads is widely regarded as one of the hardest games of all time (and to be fair was an alright game) but it wasn’t “good”. The levels and co-op mode were horrible and It didn’t bring anyhting new to the side-scrolling beat-em’ up genre. BUT WAIT, people still like it?How is that possible?Oh yes, opinions. ”
Battletoads was a NES game a NES N!E!S! GAME! it was in the younger states of gaming improvement, it along with Mario are classics.
Halo on the other hand is a X-box game, a new generation game, you can’t even compare the two, you may think that by this time they would know how to make something different.
What will be next are you gonna compare it to pac man sayign that pac man was a very basic game?
Dude, Halo is one of the simplest and market hyped games around. You might as well compare it to an Uwe Boll movie. Halo is there only for the market, some nerds found Halo 1 “enjoyable” fapping to Cortana and started this stupid STUPID trend. I’d rather see Half Life 3, at least Half Life 2 Episode 2 ended up with a blast that made you wet yourself at the awesomeness of it. Halo 3 was like “I’ll be back” *enters a cryogenic chamber and ices himself* THE END
Stupid, just stupid…The game that is.
What the hell are we even going on about this time? Oh, right. Halo. Sorry if all these arguments just run together for me. They usually amount to the same shlock.
So, here’s an obligatory response. Why? Because – like most of you, I’m betting – I’ve got about ten minutes to spare, an opinion, and nothing better to do.
Who cares?
Do you like Halo? Fine. Like it for all it’s worth. If you really like it, then it shouldn’t matter what other people say about it. Their criticism isn’t going to change your experience of the game, so why bother arguing about it? It’s not like someone saying “Halo is bad” instantly prevents enjoyment.
Do you hate Halo? Fine. Hate it like it was a plague. Just a question though: is it absolutely necessary that everyone in the world hate the game as much as you do? Is your opinion and hatred so stuttering that any opposition causes you to question yourself? You don’t have to go around proving to everyone that you’re right like it was a grand crusade.
To both parties: Stop wasting your time trying to convince everyone that your side is right. You’ll never get it to happen.
I like you spoony, i liked your video.
and wow i laugh at all those comments, i like you people you bring me much joy =^_^=
well, for newcomers of the series, i guess ODST is where they would start, with all the maps for muilti and firefite and scuh, . and now, halo3 is probably dropping in price. so this is really all marketing. im sure bungie tried to make it better, but i still find it alittle… meh. ima stick with my ps3
It’s important to note that the top two sellers in gaming history (that are not Mario games) are Halo 2 and Halo 3. New FPS games that are heavily hyped are called “Halo Killers”. You cannot deny the impact Halo has had on the industry, and not all of it has been good.
Some awful trends started by the Halo series:
Automatically regenerating health bars
The lack of realistic violence, as in “ragdoll” physics replacing actual wounds
“low impact” guns (pew pew), guns that look like plastic squirt toys
Criminally short single player campaigns
No boss battles! :(
All of these trends have been replicated in Shooters in the last 8 or so years. T
hat being said, Halo wasn’t all bad. Like I said above, the good points balance out the bad making it a pretty mediocre title. The problem is that all the good points occurred in the design for Halo’s multiplayer. Any shooter fan that was never really interested in multiplayer is out of luck for the most part, as many shooters are (like Halo) now designed entirely around multiplayer. Don’t get me wrong, Halo’s multiplayer is and has always been fantastic. But to me, multiplayer is akin to community created content. I pay full price for a whole gaming experience that I can sit down and unwind with. Multiplayer usually INCREASES my stress level (especially with Xbox Live and Halo).
Sorry for multi-posting rants, but I’ve never actually discussed Halo to any extent with the series fans. I guess I’ve been lucky like that.
Let’s get on a more serious topic. The music in this video.. what is it from? No, not the Aerosmith part.. the cheesier sounding bits before it. It sounds like a Monkey Island remix of Snake Man’s level from Mega Man 3.. but I can’t be certain.
It’s a remix of the snake man song
@AcacianLeaves
“It’s important to note that the top two sellers in gaming history (that are not Mario games) are Halo 2 and Halo 3.”
Come again? Halo 3 isn’t in the Top 10 best selling video games of all time even excluding the Mario games, far worse case for Halo 2.
Sorry, I meant to specify that I was referring to the top sellers in console gaming history.
Bah! I had a bad source that was excluding Sony systems, my mistake. I know its not relevant to the Halo discussion necessarily (although note that Halo 3 and Halo 2 are still on the list), but its interesting nonetheless. The actual list of top 10 console games as best as I can figure it (remember, excluding Mario titles):
1. GTA San Andreas
2. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
3. Gran Turismo
4. Gran Turismo 4
5. Halo 3
6. GTA Vice City
7. Final Fantasy VII
8. Gran Turismo 2
9. Halo 2
10. GoldenEye 007
You know what else is interesting? The top seller for the PS3 is the Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Holy testicles, who’s buying all these Gran Turismo games?
First of all Juan, the banner changes. Second of all, I think you need to really understand what Spoony has been all about since he started. He normally reviews older, more obscure, video games. Video games that came out during his, and my, childhood. And early disc based PC games like Phantasmagoria, Ripper, Star Trek Borg, etc. It’s not in Noah’s normal range to be reviewing brand new games. I realize that he has been doing more of it lately, but that was my point. He shouldn’t be. It takes him out of being something unique and worth watching, and put hims right in the same place with all the other game reviewers out there. Leave the brand new games to IGN, Gametrailers, Gamespot, and the lot. Stick to doing what we all love from you Spoony. Be unique. Dance with the girl that got you to the dance.
wow, lots of flame going on here. i won’t say that halo is bad (although i am not a fan), but you have to admit that the series is starting to show its age a little. the formula is getting stale, and if bungee knows what its doing, it’ll branch out some more (the RTS game for example). I just find the main series kinda boring. besides, my stupid roommate and suitemates ruined any chance for redemption from the series by playing it *all the time.* so there is hate on my end, but not in the typical way.
btw, i thought the review was brilliant. if bungee is going to release a new game, try something a little different next time :)
Cheers
@James
if you did read the previous banner (the oen previous to the server change) it said at the end ” and modern abominations of gaming that plague the Playstation, XBox, and Wii” I don’t see why he has to stick just to review old things, its not like he is 50 o something, is good to see what he thinks of new awful shit
He reviews new games for the same reason he reviews new movies and unrelated things like D&D. Because we, the fans, are interested in his opinion on all things in the entertainment industry.
Besides this is hardly a review. It probably took him a total of 5 minutes to put together. What a silly thing to flame him for.
I rented the game (someone at my local Blockbuster had rented it on the first day and already brought it back). My first impression that I was utterly underwhelmed. I had been playing the new Wolfenstein the week before and definitely enjoyed the more, even though it was pretty damned easy. I don’t play Halo online so the multiplayer disk meant nothing to me and I have a hard time believing anyone would be satisfied with a bunch of maps for 60 bucks. Maps used to be free, but whatever. Anyway, in the end you simply move too damn slow for me to take the game seriously. Also, for the most part it was the same enemies and the same weapons (which I find to be boring and not fun to shoot) and a weak story that obviously ripped Modern Combat off as far as the presentation goes. Blah.
I wish Bungie would go back to making original products. I won’t begrudge Halo its popularity; it was essentially the next-gen Goldeneye when it came out on the original Xbox and a lot of people have very positive memories associated with it. In many ways it opened the multiplayer FPS up to the console crowd, and that’s fine and cool and whatever. I just wish the Bungie could do something new. Like, totally new. Like when Blizzard went from RTS’s to an MMORPG. The potential is there for Bungie to make something cool (I remember you, Myth I and II!), and it’s sad to see them keep recycling the same game over and over.
Sorry, but in my opinion, the only decent thing to come from the Halo series is RVB.
Freelancers forever. ;)
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