lol wut? thats awesome

Silly Noah. ^.^

Did you take those pics? I’m actually watching Giant Bomb’s Endurance Run of Persona 4, and that part came up like an hour ago. hehe

Jajajaj

So, did you finish Persona 3? are you gonna make a video about it?

Cool your giving Persona 4 a go! I really think it removes many of the problems there were in P3. Although it takes an annoying amount of time to get going.

Hur hur hur spooney. Hur hur hur. But ya I really do love Persona 4 myself, and I rarely play RPG. Fucking hate the instant lose on MC death.

Chicks with Goggles!

You should’ve took a picture of Yukiko giggling, she’s the female counterpart of Doctor insano!

Man, I really really really love that game. I hope you’re enjoying it too.

haha Nice, I forgot about the silly glasses in P4. I’m assuming you finally got it then Spoony, congrats and good luck! (by the way, level the hell out of chie, she can pretty much end any boss in the game and leveling her social link helps as well since she pretty much instantly kills the enemy she hits).

Oh god, DR. INSANO! WHAT KIND OF FIENDISH PLOT IS THIS?! CONTROLLING THE MIDNIGHT CHANNEL, WHAT WILL THAT GAIN YOU?!

Aha, Spoony must’ve taken thouse while playing. I forgot he mentioned P4 and “Insano” didn’t click for me when I got to that part.

If you ask me, Chie is the one to choose as your gal in that game. She’s not afraid to kick a hellbeast right in it’s friggin’ chops.

I knew you’d enjoy Persona 4 Spoony XD. Dun listen to anyone bout Chie, you dun hafta level her to beat this game easy. Just make sure you think carefully bout how u act come (in-game) november. Looking forward to a video on this but until then, keep us informed ^^

It’s a simulation for Dr. Insano’s second cloning experiment. Even Insano plans (and doesn’t make Super Weed Killer or Bronze Warriors in diapers.)

Persona 4! :D Yay! That’s such a great game.

Go for the “guy” in blue. You’ll see what I mean, you won’t regret it.

Hee hee.
Someones playing PERSONA 4.

LOL.

SCIENCE WILL CONQUOER THE MIDNIGHT CHANNEL!

I really hope you do more in-depth videos once you play more of Persona 3/4.

For the sake of his sanity he must stay away from doing reviews of these games. They are too awesomely epic to do them justice. I mean it nearly killed Jeff and Vinny over on Giantbomb. Plus what was it 5 months of work. Just bring on more ripper.

Someone should tell Insano having an army of Fatlus will do him no good.

Awesome, glad to see your playing my favourite game ever,.it is truly epic.

Awesome, glad to see your playing my favourite game ever,.it is truly epic.

Watching the Persona 4 Endurance Run over at Giant Bomb is both entertaining and informative.

It’s basically like playing the game, except two funny people do it for you and you don’t have to put up with all the tremendous bullshit that comes with a jRPG. So it’s win/win!

Ahhh Spoony, the joys of Persona 4… I know some people don’t like it, but I enjoyed it in more way than one, replaying it right now and it feels so “mysterious” to see you play the same game as me, the impossible was made possible

Persona 4! Yeah! Awesome!

I consider that game the most accesible one of the franchise, not only because it has like 2 hours of tutorials on how to use the magic system and the junction system, but also because it explains you the effects of every spell before casting them and it explains you the weaknesses of the enemies. Easy, yes, but sometimes JRPG’s are all about the flow, ya know?

OMG Persona 3 is soooo long and drawn out i thing i got 40+ hours in and couldn’t take the grinding anymore… and I’ve played every FF game…. and I can’t take the grinding anymore *cry* I just want to see the end why, why wont it end!!!

Easily one of my favorite games of all time.

So the culprit was Insano all along!

Great to see you got P4 already. The best RPG for the PS2 in my opinion.
I hope you’ll have as much fun playing P4 as I had!

Greetings from Austria,
[Hunter.Wolf]

Good to see you starting on Persona 4 Spoony! Keep on truckin!!

I can only wonder what we would see if Spoony got pulled into the Midnight Channel…Phantasmagoria!
Or something along those lines. It would be “unfucking believable!”

Wow, Persona 4 AND Doctor Insano. Spoony, you may have made the greatest combination known to man.

Insano should grow a wicked ‘tache. He definitely needs something to twirl menacingly.

i have only just got that game and started playing it o.o

Oh man I finished that game in Japanese recently and it was amazing. I played Persona 4 first and then Persona 3 and i can’t get into the Persona 3 cast because they all seem a little more 2d then Persona 4′s. I don’t know maybe its because I only beat the first two bosses so far =w=

Oh yeah the ending to Persona 4 is so beautiful if you get the true ending so go for that!!

So that’s how the Midnight Channel was born. SCIENCE!

I’m playing the PS2 Personas in reverse order, I finished 4 awhile ago and now I’m starting on 3. I’m kinda wishing I didn’t because 4 was such a better designed game, largely because they took a look at 3 and changed what didn’t work. I wanna be able to control my party directly and change their equipment without talking to them. :(

“How´d it come to this?”
“That´s a very good question. You see, although we may be unaware of it, being a mad genius fighting for the triumph of science is a 24/7 task. So while we are frolicking through the fields, watching football or hiding dead hookers in the closet, he spends the time in his secret lair planning his next step towards world domination and putting it into action. Now you might be wondering what particular advantage it has for him to infiltrate Persona 4. Well, I know it because he told me at our last “maniacs anonymous” meeting. But seeing what a loveable evil mastermind -and probably soon the supreme world ruler- he is, it may have rather unpleasant consequenses for me if I told you. He threatened to put my robe on fire with his new death satellite.”

Sorry, but when I read that question, “Ask that guy with the glasses” suddenly popped up in my mind. :-D

Anyone who has played P4 MUST read the comics by this guy:

http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/

Good times are in store for you.

Anyone who has played P4 MUST read the comics by this guy:

http://hiimdaisy.livejournal.com/

Good times are in store for you.

Good to know you’ve decided to play Persona 4 despite being daunted by P3. I hope you’ll describe your impressions in a vlog someday.

By the way, Persona 3 Portable has been released with some gameplay changes similar to Persona 4. Hopefully Atlus USA will localise the game some time next year.

Good to know you’ve decided to play Persona 4 despite being daunted by P3. I hope you’ll describe your impressions in a vlog someday.

By the way, Persona 3 Portable has been released with some gameplay changes similar to Persona 4. Hopefully Atlus USA will localise the game some time next year.

It was bound to happen. >.> After all Dr Insano has ambitions.

It was bound to happen. >.> After all Dr Insano has ambitions.

I’m playing Persona 4 myself, great game and pretty funny too. The boss battles are difficult but lvling up helps a lot!!!!

Later you’ll see a male char whearing those glasses.

I’m playing Persona 4 myself, great game and pretty funny too. The boss battles are difficult but lvling up helps a lot!!!!

Later you’ll see a male char whearing those glasses.

Hahahaha so you ARE playing it xD

you have to make a vlog at least bout the 3 and 4 when you finish this one, haha

Hahahaha so you ARE playing it xD

you have to make a vlog at least bout the 3 and 4 when you finish this one, haha

@ 36 Thank God I’m not the only one who instantly heard TGWTG “That’s a very good question” in my head!

@ 36 Thank God I’m not the only one who instantly heard TGWTG “That’s a very good question” in my head!

Shoulda known.

I have no idea what that is.

I have no idea what that is.

Eh. This just made me think of the Shadow Rise battle in the game(donno why)…and the…noises that occur during that battle.

On another note, since you’re probably doing this w/o a walkthrough since it’s probably your first playthough, good luck not getting one of the bad endings.

Eh. This just made me think of the Shadow Rise battle in the game(donno why)…and the…noises that occur during that battle.

On another note, since you’re probably doing this w/o a walkthrough since it’s probably your first playthough, good luck not getting one of the bad endings.

Eh. This just made me think of the Shadow Rise battle in the game(donno why)…and the…noises that occur during that battle.

On another note, since you’re probably doing this w/o a walkthrough since it’s probably your first playthough, good luck not getting one of the bad endings.

PERSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONA!

PERSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONA!

Does that mean that.. Insano is “Creepy raper guy” !?

(Kudos to anyone who knows where that’s from)

Does that mean that.. Insano is “Creepy raper guy” !?

(Kudos to anyone who knows where that’s from)

Well, I failed at life!

I must have played Persona 4 for a straight two months, last year, and it’s only now that I realized Dr. Insano’s “influence” on this game. I’ll make it up by constructing a robotic, fire ape, ON FIRE, in his honor.

Am I the only one in the world that liked P3 better than P4? Don’t get me wrong, I think both games are incredible; I just simply want to know.

Well, I failed at life!

I must have played Persona 4 for a straight two months, last year, and it’s only now that I realized Dr. Insano’s “influence” on this game. I’ll make it up by constructing a robotic, fire ape, ON FIRE, in his honor.

Am I the only one in the world that liked P3 better than P4? Don’t get me wrong, I think both games are incredible; I just simply want to know.

“” Does that mean that.. Insano is “Creepy raper guy” !?

(Kudos to anyone who knows where that’s from)”

Endurance run: episode 135? ;p

Thats, like, the best episode of the entire bunch.

****YBABBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYY

Well, I failed at life!

I must have played Persona 4 for a straight two months, last year, and it’s only now that I realized Dr. Insano’s “influence” on this game. I’ll make it up by constructing a robotic, fire ape, ON FIRE, in his honor.

Am I the only one in the world that liked P3 better than P4? Don’t get me wrong, I think both games are incredible; I just simply want to know.

”Am I the only one in the world that liked P3 better than P4? Don’t get me wrong, I think both games are incredible; I just simply want to know.”

Yes :P

Just kidding, you can definitly make the argument that P3′s setting was more fresh than p4 when it came out. And some people like the characters and story in persona 3 more( especially the ending is well liked among fans).

You would still be wrong though ;p

”Am I the only one in the world that liked P3 better than P4? Don’t get me wrong, I think both games are incredible; I just simply want to know.”

Yes :P

Just kidding, you can definitly make the argument that P3′s setting was more fresh than p4 when it came out. And some people like the characters and story in persona 3 more( especially the ending is well liked among fans).

You would still be wrong though ;p

How many P4 fans out there???

I played both p3 and 4 but i find 4 much more interesting then 3…

Sadly My p3 disc i bought was corrupted…ORIGINAL P3!!!!
Coundn’t change for a new one…
bastards…

Still playing P4 myself, but I do enjoy it more than P3. The characters just pull me in more.

*yawn*

Still playing P4 myself, but I do enjoy it more than P3. The characters just pull me in more.

Blasted Insano!
You and your SCIENCE changed the world in your image, damn you!

Blasted Insano!
You and your SCIENCE changed the world in your image, damn you!

Of course! Only the nefariously twisted psyche of Dr. Insano could be behind such a nightmarish mysterious world.

Of course! Only the nefariously twisted psyche of Dr. Insano could be behind such a nightmarish mysterious world.

It’s amazing to me that so many people prefer P4 to P3.
Not because I think 3 is better, because I haven’t played 4 yet.

But P3 was one of the best games I’ve ever played. Ever.
If P4 is better, then it must be the best thing ever created.

It’s amazing to me that so many people prefer P4 to P3.
Not because I think 3 is better, because I haven’t played 4 yet.

But P3 was one of the best games I’ve ever played. Ever.
If P4 is better, then it must be the best thing ever created.

Wait when did Insano grow a mustache?
And on a related, but far more bothersome note, when did he grow boobs?

Wait when did Insano grow a mustache?
And on a related, but far more bothersome note, when did he grow boobs?

Yay persona 4! How are you liking it dude?

I felt the game fixed a lot of the problems with 3, except for the whole “main character dies=instant game over.”

Yay persona 4! How are you liking it dude?

I felt the game fixed a lot of the problems with 3, except for the whole “main character dies=instant game over.”

Is this a sneak-preview of Dr. Insano having a mustache?

Is this a sneak-preview of Dr. Insano having a mustache?

I hope you do like P4 since it improves most of the problems P3 had.

I hope you do like P4 since it improves most of the problems P3 had.

Haha haven’t gotten too far into P4 myself (Maily because I’m almost finished with P3FES, so I want to beat that before starting the next one) (And yes I’m aware none of them are cannon, I just haven’t gotten around to it).

I don’t know why everyone else had a problem with 3. Just make sure you bring alot of dolls with you into battle so you don’t die in one hit with a Mudo or Hama spell. I’ve only ever died a few times, and they were all my fault most of the time for being stupid and not heading back in time.

Haha haven’t gotten too far into P4 myself (Maily because I’m almost finished with P3FES, so I want to beat that before starting the next one) (And yes I’m aware none of them are cannon, I just haven’t gotten around to it).

I don’t know why everyone else had a problem with 3. Just make sure you bring alot of dolls with you into battle so you don’t die in one hit with a Mudo or Hama spell. I’ve only ever died a few times, and they were all my fault most of the time for being stupid and not heading back in time.

Yes.

Yes.

The nose is neither large nor pronounced enough.

The nose is neither large nor pronounced enough.

Quite simply, P4 is just more fun than P3 because it takes everything that was remotely good about P3, and then fixes (almost) all of its flaws.

In my opinion, Persona 4 is the best game of all time. Following that is Persona 3 FES, though I do not like comparing them because frankly they are different stories. After that would be a bunch of other SMT games, and the Tales of series. At any rate, you are very witty, Spoony.

P3 had an interesting desegregation of story and gameplay in how it had the player playing *only* the main character. It limited things like direct control over the other characters in battle, didn’t allow you to directly make the other party members cast spells out of battle (Dia and Recarm mostly although you could request them to heal you), and you could only change a person’s equipment by talking to them.

Although these things certainly make it more like the player is actually the MC immersed in the game’s world, it also wasn’t really that much fun. It also broke with JRPG conventions, and was not particularly liked by many gamers.

P4 changed all these things to the more expected traditional form. I think that’s for the better personally, although it really didn’t matter that much. It also streamlined and improved things a lot of people didn’t like (square button fast travel, etc).

As for which was better, I played P4 before playing P3:FES, and have to say I liked P4 better. P3 definitely had a more “epic” story and darker setting. The Journey was interesting and challenging. The Answer was soul-crushingly difficult. The ending to both parts of P3 was pretty awesome as well.

Where I have to give P4 credit though is mostly because of the characters. It might be because you could form Social Links with everyone who joins the Investigation Team and get to know more about them, but for some reason they just really were awesome. The bad endings were genuinely sad, and the good ending was genuinely heart warming (as cheesy as that may sound). I also found the Social Links to be more interesting and better implemented in general. P4 is easier than P3 though on Normal difficulty because of changes to the battle system and because of the Social Link enhancements your teammates get though which for an SMT game is in my opinion a strike against it.

People complain about the repetition of Tartarus in P3 and point to the different dungeons in P4 as an improvement which is something I have to disagree with. The dungeons in both games were essentially just palette swaps of previous ones, and while P4 has shorter/fewer floors to climb there’s really not that much difference between the two. If you don’t enjoy dungeon crawling you probably won’t like either game. If you enjoy it or don’t mind sitting though so, you will probably enjoy both games.

That’s my take on it anyway. Atlus needs to put some more games out on something other than the DS already. :P

Also, I really need to get a DS. :P

P3 had an interesting desegregation of story and gameplay in how it had the player playing *only* the main character. It limited things like direct control over the other characters in battle, didn’t allow you to directly make the other party members cast spells out of battle (Dia and Recarm mostly although you could request them to heal you), and you could only change a person’s equipment by talking to them.

Although these things certainly make it more like the player is actually the MC immersed in the game’s world, it also wasn’t really that much fun. It also broke with JRPG conventions, and was not particularly liked by many gamers.

P4 changed all these things to the more expected traditional form. I think that’s for the better personally, although it really didn’t matter that much. It also streamlined and improved things a lot of people didn’t like (square button fast travel, etc).

As for which was better, I played P4 before playing P3:FES, and have to say I liked P4 better. P3 definitely had a more “epic” story and darker setting. The Journey was interesting and challenging. The Answer was soul-crushingly difficult. The ending to both parts of P3 was pretty awesome as well.

Where I have to give P4 credit though is mostly because of the characters. It might be because you could form Social Links with everyone who joins the Investigation Team and get to know more about them, but for some reason they just really were awesome. The bad endings were genuinely sad, and the good ending was genuinely heart warming (as cheesy as that may sound). I also found the Social Links to be more interesting and better implemented in general. P4 is easier than P3 though on Normal difficulty because of changes to the battle system and because of the Social Link enhancements your teammates get though which for an SMT game is in my opinion a strike against it.

People complain about the repetition of Tartarus in P3 and point to the different dungeons in P4 as an improvement which is something I have to disagree with. The dungeons in both games were essentially just palette swaps of previous ones, and while P4 has shorter/fewer floors to climb there’s really not that much difference between the two. If you don’t enjoy dungeon crawling you probably won’t like either game. If you enjoy it or don’t mind sitting though so, you will probably enjoy both games.

That’s my take on it anyway. Atlus needs to put some more games out on something other than the DS already. :P

Also, I really need to get a DS. :P

Hope you’re enjoying the game Spoony.

Hope you’re enjoying the game Spoony.

Persona 4 surprised me that I really enjoyed it. I like RPGs but have a tendency to shy away from games that go well over 40+ hours but for P4 I clocked in at just around 87 hours and really enjoyed myself.

Persona 4 surprised me that I really enjoyed it. I like RPGs but have a tendency to shy away from games that go well over 40+ hours but for P4 I clocked in at just around 87 hours and really enjoyed myself.

I like persona 4 and I am planning to hunt down just about every shin megami tensei games for the ps2. I haven’t played many turn based rpgs in a while. I was wondering if spoony would do a review of those games, or a v-log. Just wishful thinking, but nice image.

I like persona 4 and I am planning to hunt down just about every shin megami tensei games for the ps2. I haven’t played many turn based rpgs in a while. I was wondering if spoony would do a review of those games, or a v-log. Just wishful thinking, but nice image.

What game?

What game?

Doctor Insano just happened to control the Midnight Channel on my birthday, coincidence?…Most likely.

Persona 4 is/was a very fun RPG game for me. Since then I’ve gone and bought Digital Devil Saga 1+2 and Persona 3 FES. Only got around to playing DDS 1 so far and it’s been pretty good, but it’s not drawn me in the same way Persona 4 did.

OF COURSE

OF COURSE

@Kitty, Spoony did talk a bit about the SMT games in the past:
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/2009/09/16/megavlog-9-15-09-part-3-shin-megami-tensei-series/
(It’s got Digital Devil Saga spoilers, btw.)

@Kitty, Spoony did talk a bit about the SMT games in the past:
http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/2009/09/16/megavlog-9-15-09-part-3-shin-megami-tensei-series/
(It’s got Digital Devil Saga spoilers, btw.)

I didn’t know Doctor Insano had a mustache.

I didn’t know Doctor Insano had a mustache.

I’d like to see Dr. Insano’s reaction to Hanako, simply due to the sheer fact of how her face alone is a scientific impossibility.

I’d like to see Dr. Insano’s reaction to Hanako, simply due to the sheer fact of how her face alone is a scientific impossibility.

”People complain about the repetition of Tartarus in P3 and point to the different dungeons in P4 as an improvement which is something I have to disagree with. The dungeons in both games were essentially just palette swaps of previous ones, and while P4 has shorter/fewer floors to climb there’s really not that much difference between the two. If you don’t enjoy dungeon crawling you probably won’t like either game. If you enjoy it or don’t mind sitting though so, you will probably enjoy both games.”

No offence, but that simply isn’t true. Each of tartarus’s blocks look exactly the same, with minor differences(the only block that really looked different was the second to last one). While P4′s dungeons all had wildly different themes, looks and even gimmicks and floor design in some cases
Minor dungeon spoilers:
( Example: the bathhouse and secret base both have 2 doors leading to different paths in the staircases, Heaven has no walls but very narrow hallways, Void quest(fuck floor 7) has indicators for stairs,chests and hallways.)
End spoilers

It also really helps that the dungeon music in P4 is really good instead of the same monotous shitty song that plays in tartarus for 80 hours of gameplay. I for one HATED the dungeon part of P3, and always dreaded a phonecall from elizabeth(telling me that another tedious 30 floors of exploration awaited me) yet, I really got excited everytime someone was thrown in the tv in P4.

What I really liked in p4, was the sense of team spirit the characters had. They felt like a really close group of friends , unlike, SEES in which it really didn’t feel like the characters were all that close.

”People complain about the repetition of Tartarus in P3 and point to the different dungeons in P4 as an improvement which is something I have to disagree with. The dungeons in both games were essentially just palette swaps of previous ones, and while P4 has shorter/fewer floors to climb there’s really not that much difference between the two. If you don’t enjoy dungeon crawling you probably won’t like either game. If you enjoy it or don’t mind sitting though so, you will probably enjoy both games.”

No offence, but that simply isn’t true. Each of tartarus’s blocks look exactly the same, with minor differences(the only block that really looked different was the second to last one). While P4′s dungeons all had wildly different themes, looks and even gimmicks and floor design in some cases
Minor dungeon spoilers:
( Example: the bathhouse and secret base both have 2 doors leading to different paths in the staircases, Heaven has no walls but very narrow hallways, Void quest(fuck floor 7) has indicators for stairs,chests and hallways.)
End spoilers

It also really helps that the dungeon music in P4 is really good instead of the same monotous shitty song that plays in tartarus for 80 hours of gameplay. I for one HATED the dungeon part of P3, and always dreaded a phonecall from elizabeth(telling me that another tedious 30 floors of exploration awaited me) yet, I really got excited everytime someone was thrown in the tv in P4.

What I really liked in p4, was the sense of team spirit the characters had. They felt like a really close group of friends , unlike, SEES in which it really didn’t feel like the characters were all that close.

If you are playing P4, really when you get to November and are doing something important with a certain enemy in a certain hospital, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY!!! Or you will get the bad ending. It killed me the first time when I was like “wut?” The I figured out I shouldn’t have been as evil as I wanted lawl

If you haven’t already, check out a little of the Persona 4 Endurance Run on giantbomb.com. Vinny Caravella and Jeff Gerstmann are damn entertaining and all the more so since they go into it blind.

If you haven’t already, check out a little of the Persona 4 Endurance Run on giantbomb.com. Vinny Caravella and Jeff Gerstmann are damn entertaining and all the more so since they go into it blind.

@haha

Tartarus had different types of stairs and some differences in the layouts. Those small fourway staircases don’t appear in all the blocks. The twoway up the corner staircases vary in height between blocks. And there’s other differences as well as the general texture that covers everything.

There’s also an option in the square button menu to have several different music tracks.

While P4′s dungeons are more varied and shorter, it’s still hallways, square rooms, and stairs to the next floor. They do differ more in appearance, but they’re essentially the same thing repeated a dozen times.If you’re someone who hated P3 because of Tartarus I wouldn’t recommend P4 to you.

@haha

Tartarus had different types of stairs and some differences in the layouts. Those small fourway staircases don’t appear in all the blocks. The twoway up the corner staircases vary in height between blocks. And there’s other differences as well as the general texture that covers everything.

There’s also an option in the square button menu to have several different music tracks.

While P4′s dungeons are more varied and shorter, it’s still hallways, square rooms, and stairs to the next floor. They do differ more in appearance, but they’re essentially the same thing repeated a dozen times.If you’re someone who hated P3 because of Tartarus I wouldn’t recommend P4 to you.

I wonder how Insano is doing with his plans of world domination with SCI….GAAHH WHAT THE HELL?!
Weird indeed.

I wonder how Insano is doing with his plans of world domination with SCI….GAAHH WHAT THE HELL?!
Weird indeed.

Crap. Ragnarok is upon us now, surely.

Crap. Ragnarok is upon us now, surely.

I love P4 and P4!!
I never thought of those glasses that way! Can you do a Vlog about P4?
By the way, have you gotten to P3′s ” Operation Babe Hunt ” ? It’s awesome!

I love P4 and P4!!
I never thought of those glasses that way! Can you do a Vlog about P4?
By the way, have you gotten to P3′s ” Operation Babe Hunt ” ? It’s awesome!

I love both Persona 3 and 4 (I even plan to by the PSP remake of 3 whenever it comes out even though I’ve played both the original and FES), but in my opinion 4 is the better of the two. As one commentor stated, it’s because the characters were better portrayed in that game than the first one, and their bonds as friends were more believable. To sort of add to this, I’d say the thing that made the characterization of the P4 characters better is that they seemed more human, more real in their portrayal. I mean with the party members themeselves, we actually got to know them as people, we learned about their personalities, their lives, their hopes and dreams, etc. The same could be said for the social links; they just seemed to have more depth than the social links of P3 and Souji (P4′s MC canon name) just seemed more involved with the social link characters than Minato which made the relationships he formed with all of them feel more genuine.
Anyway, can’t wait for Persona 5.

Still, I wonder what Doctor Insano’s dungeon would look like, and how would he react to his other self? Actually, what would his other self be like?

I love both Persona 3 and 4 (I even plan to by the PSP remake of 3 whenever it comes out even though I’ve played both the original and FES), but in my opinion 4 is the better of the two. As one commentor stated, it’s because the characters were better portrayed in that game than the first one, and their bonds as friends were more believable. To sort of add to this, I’d say the thing that made the characterization of the P4 characters better is that they seemed more human, more real in their portrayal. I mean with the party members themeselves, we actually got to know them as people, we learned about their personalities, their lives, their hopes and dreams, etc. The same could be said for the social links; they just seemed to have more depth than the social links of P3 and Souji (P4′s MC canon name) just seemed more involved with the social link characters than Minato which made the relationships he formed with all of them feel more genuine.
Anyway, can’t wait for Persona 5.

Still, I wonder what Doctor Insano’s dungeon would look like, and how would he react to his other self? Actually, what would his other self be like?

First off, I am near the end of the game, December 5th or 6th, and I’m going for the true ending. After playing Persona 3 and then P3: FES, I will admit I was giggling like a school girl when I heard of P4. I enjoyed P3 even though there was a few minor flaws with it. I remember during one of your earlier blogs, the Great Spoony didnt understand the fascination with the Shin Megami Tensei games. Now I personally havent played the Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga games, but I did play the Devil Summoners and the Persona series. So here is my opinion based on the Persona series.

First things first, an RPG must have a good story. And P3 and P4 delivered in spades. The first thing that got me was that I was living the life of a high schooler in Japan. That interested me from the get go because I knew they had a different setup then over here in America. To find out they had a day off for Respect for the Elderly…that’s just awesome. There are trivia questions in both games, and I actually learned things because of it. How often can you say that about video games? Sometimes I would find myself thinking about what was going to happen in the story while I was at work or how to improve my social links. When I first played P3 I was hooked by the nice anime artwork, and the intriguing story. Persona 3 was definitely darker than P4, even though P4 had its moments, and I was simply amazed by how they summoned their Personas. It left me wanting more, so I played more. Yes I will admit wandering around Tarturus did get boring at times, and not controlling the other characters was a drag, but I wanted to see more of what was causing the 13th Hour and why the school turned into a tower full of evil hellspawns. And Mitsuru-sempai…smexy.

Now that I have had the pleasure to experience most of P4, I can say that as far as overall performance, P4 is better. Why? Let me count the reasons…lol, just kidding. Seriously though, the characters are more involved. Their personalities really shined through, showing both weakness and strengths. The witty banter between my friends and teammates during the story segements. Yukiko’s cute yet addictive laughter. Chie’s dumb obserations. Yosuke’s headphones. Kanji’s.umm…sewing skills. Rise’s longing to be normal. Naoto’s sharp detective wit and fashion sense. Teddie’s failed attempts at trying to score with Chie and Yukiko. I loved watching the events play out. Like at the camping trip or the hot springs visit. My personal fave moment was the tribute to P3 when we went and did the class trip to the Port where P3 happened. The story itself of trying to find the TV killer itself is enthralling. There was times when I just could not put down the controller. I had to know what was next.

On top of the characters and story, the battles were fleshed out a lot more, allowing control of the other characters. I admit the battles were a lot easier than P3. (Dont even want to remember how many hours of gameplay I lost after dying so fricking much.) The whole fusion thing…that’s most likely the weakest thing about the game to me personally. Most of the time I forgot what I had created and had to go back the completed list and double check before I fused. I’m sure that part appeals to the pokemon crowd, no offense to those. It’s still neat feature, but honestly, most of my gameplay came from fusing them. Without the fusion time, this may have dropped to about 60 hours instead of the 80+ I have put into it.

Music-wise, both games have incredible soundtracks. I was glad to see a OST included with P4. The music always fit the mood, and I usually hummed or mouthed the words while I played the game, or even when I wasnt playing it. I wish there had been more anime scenes to watch but I’m nitpicking. The graphics weren’t amazing and it doesn’t need to be. These two games get it done right where it counts. Gameplay and overall enjoyment. You don’t need to be pretty to be awesome. Even though I say Persona 4 is better, I recommend both games to people to try. It truly isnt for everyone, but then again, no game ever is.

Honestly, Spoonster, I am glad you are playing P4. I am sure you will enjoy the storyline and characters at least. The images you showed was a just a small moment of warmth that I have come to remember and cherish about this gem of a game. I cant help but smile when Yukiko makes people try them on for the first time and she starts laughing. I’ve been watching your reviews and blogs since the Final Fantasy 8 Classic Burn series. I lvoe your insight on things, and agree with a lot of things you say. Sometimes watching your movie reviews is more entertaining then the movie itself, and watching you doesnt cost $8 to go see. Keep doing what you do, ’cause you do it with style.

First off, I am near the end of the game, December 5th or 6th, and I’m going for the true ending. After playing Persona 3 and then P3: FES, I will admit I was giggling like a school girl when I heard of P4. I enjoyed P3 even though there was a few minor flaws with it. I remember during one of your earlier blogs, the Great Spoony didnt understand the fascination with the Shin Megami Tensei games. Now I personally havent played the Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga games, but I did play the Devil Summoners and the Persona series. So here is my opinion based on the Persona series.

First things first, an RPG must have a good story. And P3 and P4 delivered in spades. The first thing that got me was that I was living the life of a high schooler in Japan. That interested me from the get go because I knew they had a different setup then over here in America. To find out they had a day off for Respect for the Elderly…that’s just awesome. There are trivia questions in both games, and I actually learned things because of it. How often can you say that about video games? Sometimes I would find myself thinking about what was going to happen in the story while I was at work or how to improve my social links. When I first played P3 I was hooked by the nice anime artwork, and the intriguing story. Persona 3 was definitely darker than P4, even though P4 had its moments, and I was simply amazed by how they summoned their Personas. It left me wanting more, so I played more. Yes I will admit wandering around Tarturus did get boring at times, and not controlling the other characters was a drag, but I wanted to see more of what was causing the 13th Hour and why the school turned into a tower full of evil hellspawns. And Mitsuru-sempai…smexy.

Now that I have had the pleasure to experience most of P4, I can say that as far as overall performance, P4 is better. Why? Let me count the reasons…lol, just kidding. Seriously though, the characters are more involved. Their personalities really shined through, showing both weakness and strengths. The witty banter between my friends and teammates during the story segements. Yukiko’s cute yet addictive laughter. Chie’s dumb obserations. Yosuke’s headphones. Kanji’s.umm…sewing skills. Rise’s longing to be normal. Naoto’s sharp detective wit and fashion sense. Teddie’s failed attempts at trying to score with Chie and Yukiko. I loved watching the events play out. Like at the camping trip or the hot springs visit. My personal fave moment was the tribute to P3 when we went and did the class trip to the Port where P3 happened. The story itself of trying to find the TV killer itself is enthralling. There was times when I just could not put down the controller. I had to know what was next.

On top of the characters and story, the battles were fleshed out a lot more, allowing control of the other characters. I admit the battles were a lot easier than P3. (Dont even want to remember how many hours of gameplay I lost after dying so fricking much.) The whole fusion thing…that’s most likely the weakest thing about the game to me personally. Most of the time I forgot what I had created and had to go back the completed list and double check before I fused. I’m sure that part appeals to the pokemon crowd, no offense to those. It’s still neat feature, but honestly, most of my gameplay came from fusing them. Without the fusion time, this may have dropped to about 60 hours instead of the 80+ I have put into it.

Music-wise, both games have incredible soundtracks. I was glad to see a OST included with P4. The music always fit the mood, and I usually hummed or mouthed the words while I played the game, or even when I wasnt playing it. I wish there had been more anime scenes to watch but I’m nitpicking. The graphics weren’t amazing and it doesn’t need to be. These two games get it done right where it counts. Gameplay and overall enjoyment. You don’t need to be pretty to be awesome. Even though I say Persona 4 is better, I recommend both games to people to try. It truly isnt for everyone, but then again, no game ever is.

Honestly, Spoonster, I am glad you are playing P4. I am sure you will enjoy the storyline and characters at least. The images you showed was a just a small moment of warmth that I have come to remember and cherish about this gem of a game. I cant help but smile when Yukiko makes people try them on for the first time and she starts laughing. I’ve been watching your reviews and blogs since the Final Fantasy 8 Classic Burn series. I lvoe your insight on things, and agree with a lot of things you say. Sometimes watching your movie reviews is more entertaining then the movie itself, and watching you doesnt cost $8 to go see. Keep doing what you do, ’cause you do it with style.

For me, I liked P4 more becuase I felt the tone was…more real. Not in a real life sense, but the characters seemed more like normal people. I liked P3, but I absolutely hate…

*spoilers*

Martyr endings. There’s nothing worse in a game then building up awesome character and then having him/her die out of your control.

*end spoilers*

So that’s the main reason I like P4 better.

For me, I liked P4 more becuase I felt the tone was…more real. Not in a real life sense, but the characters seemed more like normal people. I liked P3, but I absolutely hate…

*spoilers*

Martyr endings. There’s nothing worse in a game then building up awesome character and then having him/her die out of your control.

*end spoilers*

So that’s the main reason I like P4 better.

Shin Megami Tensei Forever! You are one of us too now Spoony.

Shin Megami Tensei Forever! You are one of us too now Spoony.

I wondered when you would get round to playing P4. Glad you are and hopefully you’ll give us your opinion on this game sometime soon.

I wondered when you would get round to playing P4. Glad you are and hopefully you’ll give us your opinion on this game sometime soon.

I played this game to death back then and a part of me still compels me to play it again. I’ll probably do when my Modern Warfare 2 cravings settle down a bit.

I played this game to death back then and a part of me still compels me to play it again. I’ll probably do when my Modern Warfare 2 cravings settle down a bit.

SPOILERS WARNING

”Tartarus had different types of stairs and some differences in the layouts. Those small fourway staircases don’t appear in all the blocks. The twoway up the corner staircases vary in height between blocks. ”

These differences don’t even come close to the difference between the void quest and heaven. The differences between the blocks in tartarus basically amount to having different types of stairs. And in the case of arqa: having extra giant heads generate randomly in the hallways.

They don’t have any real aesthetic difference from each other unlike heaven, which doesn’t have any walls and very narrow hallways or, the void quest, which looks like an old school video games, or a stripclub, or a bath house(these last two get extra points for originality). It doesn’t change the gameplay. But it does keep the dungeon progression from getting extremely dull by changing the environments .

Instead of seeing the same corridors for 60-70 floors, and than seeing another extremely similar dungeon design for another 60-70 floors.

We get dungeons that have wildly different themes and unique looks from each other and we only have to tolerate them for 11 floors at most(kanji,rise) or 8 floors(Yukiko,killer). Also the dungeon tracks don’t suck. Hell, Long way, Heaven,Void Quest and Secret Base are probably some of the best tracks in the game

Another point about P3, is the dungeon itself. Most of the time going up Tartarus felt like a chore because of the inability to freely leave whenever I want and go back to complete my progress. You HAD to go up 15 floors and reach the teleporter or else you would have to do all that shit over again.

”And there’s other differences ”

Not really, those 4-way staircases are the only thing that shifted from floor to floor.

”
There’s also an option in the square button menu to have several different music tracks. ”

Well…….I bought the original P3 and that didn’t have that fancy option unlike FES :-(. I guess thats a bit of personal problem with someone that only played the original P3. But hey, the only one of those 4 tracks that doesn’t blow anyway is Maya’s theme.

”
While P4’s dungeons are more varied and shorter, it’s still hallways, square rooms, and stairs to the next floor. They do differ more in appearance, but they’re essentially the same thing repeated a dozen times.If you’re someone who hated P3 because of Tartarus I wouldn’t recommend P4 to you.”

The battle system upgrades, the removal of bumblefuck AI, variaty and the pace of P4 made me like it for its gameplay a looooooooooootttt more than P3.

I watched the Answer on youtube. The answer initself is an atrocious monstrosity with a fanfic-level written plot and premise. I seriously consider that to be like the worst thing to ever happen in a SMT game. Gameplay was never P3′s forte to begin with. Slapping a ridiculous, melodramatic plot ontop of P3′s less than ideal dungeon crawling and you had a recipe for disaster.

I still really like P3 though.

SPOILERS WARNING

”Tartarus had different types of stairs and some differences in the layouts. Those small fourway staircases don’t appear in all the blocks. The twoway up the corner staircases vary in height between blocks. ”

These differences don’t even come close to the difference between the void quest and heaven. The differences between the blocks in tartarus basically amount to having different types of stairs. And in the case of arqa: having extra giant heads generate randomly in the hallways.

They don’t have any real aesthetic difference from each other unlike heaven, which doesn’t have any walls and very narrow hallways or, the void quest, which looks like an old school video games, or a stripclub, or a bath house(these last two get extra points for originality). It doesn’t change the gameplay. But it does keep the dungeon progression from getting extremely dull by changing the environments .

Instead of seeing the same corridors for 60-70 floors, and than seeing another extremely similar dungeon design for another 60-70 floors.

We get dungeons that have wildly different themes and unique looks from each other and we only have to tolerate them for 11 floors at most(kanji,rise) or 8 floors(Yukiko,killer). Also the dungeon tracks don’t suck. Hell, Long way, Heaven,Void Quest and Secret Base are probably some of the best tracks in the game

Another point about P3, is the dungeon itself. Most of the time going up Tartarus felt like a chore because of the inability to freely leave whenever I want and go back to complete my progress. You HAD to go up 15 floors and reach the teleporter or else you would have to do all that shit over again.

”And there’s other differences ”

Not really, those 4-way staircases are the only thing that shifted from floor to floor.

”
There’s also an option in the square button menu to have several different music tracks. ”

Well…….I bought the original P3 and that didn’t have that fancy option unlike FES :-(. I guess thats a bit of personal problem with someone that only played the original P3. But hey, the only one of those 4 tracks that doesn’t blow anyway is Maya’s theme.

”
While P4’s dungeons are more varied and shorter, it’s still hallways, square rooms, and stairs to the next floor. They do differ more in appearance, but they’re essentially the same thing repeated a dozen times.If you’re someone who hated P3 because of Tartarus I wouldn’t recommend P4 to you.”

The battle system upgrades, the removal of bumblefuck AI, variaty and the pace of P4 made me like it for its gameplay a looooooooooootttt more than P3.

I watched the Answer on youtube. The answer initself is an atrocious monstrosity with a fanfic-level written plot and premise. I seriously consider that to be like the worst thing to ever happen in a SMT game. Gameplay was never P3′s forte to begin with. Slapping a ridiculous, melodramatic plot ontop of P3′s less than ideal dungeon crawling and you had a recipe for disaster.

I still really like P3 though.

Glad to see that you got around to playing P4. Did you finish P3 yet, Spoony?

I love it! Those glasses are so classic.

Speaking of things you should sell in the store, Spoony, how about replicas of Doc Insano’s glasses? I would so, so buy a set to display. (Hell, just more Doc Insano stuff in general would be awesome.)

I love it! Those glasses are so classic.

Speaking of things you should sell in the store, Spoony, how about replicas of Doc Insano’s glasses? I would so, so buy a set to display. (Hell, just more Doc Insano stuff in general would be awesome.)

That’s quite funny.
Don’t know what the hell it is, but it’s still funny.

That’s quite funny.
Don’t know what the hell it is, but it’s still funny.

For the comment all the way back in 74. I know i just ment a video of spoony talking about persona 4 and the other ones, just giving another talk about them. He did it with D&D so why not the shin megami games, but it wouldn’t be heart breaking if it didn’t happen,

For the comment all the way back in 74. I know i just ment a video of spoony talking about persona 4 and the other ones, just giving another talk about them. He did it with D&D so why not the shin megami games, but it wouldn’t be heart breaking if it didn’t happen,

Spoony…when are you going to quit playing crap JRPGs and get back to reviews?

Spoony…when are you going to quit playing crap JRPGs and get back to reviews?

Don’t forget that Dr. Insano also controls all the Al Bhed in Final Fantasy X. Take a close look at their eyes and you’ll see Dr. Insano’s swirls instead of pupils.

Don’t forget that Dr. Insano also controls all the Al Bhed in Final Fantasy X. Take a close look at their eyes and you’ll see Dr. Insano’s swirls instead of pupils.

Damn Dr.Insano Just accomplished what Pinky and the Brain tried to do for years

Damn Dr.Insano Just accomplished what Pinky and the Brain tried to do for years

I think it’s a safe bet that spoony has gone into full tilt experimenting with his “gift”,

Expect hijinks

I think it’s a safe bet that spoony has gone into full tilt experimenting with his “gift”,

Expect hijinks

@Apathetic One

K.

We get it. You don’t like JRPGs(or quality for that matter).

Come on, Spoon, where’s the reviews?

Come on, Spoon, where’s the reviews?

Didn’t he already review Megaten games in general?

Persona 4 is a great game, but it’s also a long-term commitment unless you have four or five days with absolutely nothing else to do, like I had.

Didn’t he already review Megaten games in general?

Persona 4 is a great game, but it’s also a long-term commitment unless you have four or five days with absolutely nothing else to do, like I had.

Honestly, I recently finished replaying P3 FES and P4 from scratch and I’ve got a few things to say about both games. But, let’s split the topics so it wouldn’t be a clusterfuck:

Story: Persona 3 FES wins thins if only due to the fact that you feel like you’re actually accomplishing things. P4, for me, felt a bit like watching a Scooby Doo episode – except a tad more interesting.
Personas: Persona 3 FES wins again, but only because it features Thanatos. Most badass mofo ever.
Music: P4 lacks Lotus Juice, and thus, loses. Not to say that it was BAD, but come on – it’s motherfucking Lotus Juice.
Characters: Debatable, but here’s how I would compare the PARTY members:
Junpei > Yosuke
Yukari Yuki
Akihiko < Kanji
Aegis + Ken + Koromaru = Naoto + Teddie
P4 and P3 FES both have somewhat enjoyable Social Links, but I think they're tied here.

Replayability:
Oh, FES wins this one, if you for how much easier it makes New Game+. I mean, it gives you all your money, your MC level, max stats, and every equipment you had as well all fully stocked stores. Good shit.
Gameplay: P4 wins automatically. However, with P3P out in Japan, this might change soon.

Actually, after looking at my "review", I started to wonder why people like P4 more.

Honestly, I recently finished replaying P3 FES and P4 from scratch and I’ve got a few things to say about both games. But, let’s split the topics so it wouldn’t be a clusterfuck:

Story: Persona 3 FES wins thins if only due to the fact that you feel like you’re actually accomplishing things. P4, for me, felt a bit like watching a Scooby Doo episode – except a tad more interesting.
Personas: Persona 3 FES wins again, but only because it features Thanatos. Most badass mofo ever.
Music: P4 lacks Lotus Juice, and thus, loses. Not to say that it was BAD, but come on – it’s motherfucking Lotus Juice.
Characters: Debatable, but here’s how I would compare the PARTY members:
Junpei > Yosuke
Yukari Yuki
Akihiko < Kanji
Aegis + Ken + Koromaru = Naoto + Teddie
P4 and P3 FES both have somewhat enjoyable Social Links, but I think they're tied here.

Replayability:
Oh, FES wins this one, if you for how much easier it makes New Game+. I mean, it gives you all your money, your MC level, max stats, and every equipment you had as well all fully stocked stores. Good shit.
Gameplay: P4 wins automatically. However, with P3P out in Japan, this might change soon.

Actually, after looking at my "review", I started to wonder why people like P4 more.

I see you have Persona 4, Spoony. God, I love that game. It’s my favorite!

I see you have Persona 4, Spoony. God, I love that game. It’s my favorite!

Oh and episode 71 is generally accepted as the best Endurance Run episode. I beat P4 before that even started. (I beat it six days before the first episode aired.

@mikaoj: SPOILER ALERT! I’ve already read both parts of that so far, but each has a major spoiler.

Oh and episode 71 is generally accepted as the best Endurance Run episode. I beat P4 before that even started. (I beat it six days before the first episode aired.

@mikaoj: SPOILER ALERT! I’ve already read both parts of that so far, but each has a major spoiler.

There’s nothing here :(