Comments on: Squall’s Dead

By: Skavoc

Skavoc — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:47:00 +0000

Can we consider for one minute that the rest of the game ISN’T a dream, and it’s just a weird game? Listen, the fact that everyone forgot they went to the same orphanage isn’t any weirder than Sephiroth being born from Jenova, or Zidane being a Genome from Terra. It’s Final FANTASY, people. Fantasy means fantastical stories and strange plot twists. And come on – isn’t it more fun to think that it did actually happen? My final point: Squall’s a Final Fantasy character. He can survive falls of any height. Don’t you think that maybe he could survive a fucking icicle to the chest? I do.

By: Dave Janssens

Dave Janssens — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 03:07:00 +0000

Well, Maybe because of the turmoil and squall dying and such, Irvine succeeds in shooting Edea/Ultimecia? I believe it might really be that simple. And the Phoenix Down argument is invalid in my opinion. Those only exist for gameplay value. Otherwise Laguna would resurrect Raine in a sec, right? Instead of visiting her grave like it is shown in the Ending Sequence.

By: Charles Price

Charles Price — Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:31:00 +0000

“I would really like to see a
movie about something like that though. We see into the mind of someone
experiencing death and see his/her life flash before the person’s eyes
and they contemplate what their lives might have played out like while
they experience what feels to them like decades.”
Just watch Jacobs Ladder.

By: Santiago Feraud

Santiago Feraud — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:42:00 +0000

On the first hours of the game, I think it’s Cid who said that you shouldn’t listen to those who say that the GF use makes you lose your memory. It makes sense that the Garden Director didn’t want their SeeD’s to stop using GF’s. So, the memory leakes could be explained that way. It also could be that Squall took the idea for the dream from that.
In any way, I don’t think Square would go that far: if Squall’s death was to be, it would have been a lot clearer.
Maybe concepts started to mix during development, and the story got a little messed up ’cause of that.
Still, better love story than twilight’s.

By: Vicente Pelechano Servando

Vicente Pelechano Servando — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 11:16:00 +0000

Final Fantasy VIII has its deep meaning, it is about coming of age, is one of those works were the character interactions are more important than the story.

It is not about withces, is not about time c(k)ompression that shit is unimportant, it is about Squall becoming an adult, acting at the start as an emo asshole that hinks beinc emo is cool and edgy and slowly softens to the lovely pragmatism that is becoming an adult.

The rest doesn’t make fucking sense because it doesn’t have to, it is just a stage, the same way Final Fantasy VII’s story was about enviromentalism and IX was about War, just check the stories of said games closely.

In VII you have the main protagonist suddendly having being mind controlled by the dead villain who revives and destroys the world just because, then suddendly it happened that Cloud was part of a failed experiment to replicate Sefirot’s Clones because it is good to have good soldiers being maniacs run amok for every company that tries to control the world…I loved VII but the plot is bullshit, it is ok for JRPG’s but if you compare it to Suikoden’s plot for instance it doesn’t hold ground.

Same goes to IX when suddendly it happened that the protagonist was part of an artificial alien race that…

Saying I like Final Fantasy for the plot is like saying that you buy Hustler’s for the writting, either you are completely illiterate in gaming and literary terms and it is just impressing your virgin mind, or it is nostalgia speaking for you.

By: John

John — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:58:00 +0000

I think that this theory was made because this person really thought that every final fantasy game has to have a deep story or meaning to it. The idea of the game really being a study of squall’s mind right before he experiences death is a fascinating idea but I really don’t think that this is the case since this is a fantasy RPG game and weird shit is supposed to happen in these games.
I would really like to see a movie about something like that though. We see into the mind of someone experiencing death and see his/her life flash before the person’s eyes and they contemplate what their lives might have played out like while they experience what feels to them like decades.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:16:00 +0000

Lol.

By: Adam Belsha

Adam Belsha — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:23:00 +0000

I was trying to reply to something that was said farther down the page, but my Facebook sign-in flubbed and I made a new post. :

By: Kenny Vider

Kenny Vider — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 02:30:00 +0000

Who mentioned FF7? This whole thing is about 8.
Sorry if you were replying to someone… I was just kinda confused where 7 came in at.

By: Adam Belsha

Adam Belsha — Sun, 29 May 2011 00:42:00 +0000

I’m not saying I don’t believe in what others believe. I’m saying there are holes in their logic that works against them. You seem to have missed the fact that I’m for interpretation: I’m not arguing against the idea of the opinion. It’s believing a fallacious one in the face of overwhelming opposing evidence that bugs me, and it bugs me because I’m trying to be involved in a serious discussion with people who are preaching an erroneous argument. A does not equal B simply because you tell yourself that it does.

The general idea here is that you’re not wrong because I don’t agree with you…you’re wrong because you’re wrong. I’ve already noted that “Squall is Dead” ignores and alters some information, makes the ironic argument that “unrealistic” and “impossible” events occur in a FANTASY video game, and uses the word “misinterpretation” to refer to other peoples’ ideas about the game (yet how can the word “misinterpretation” exist if there is no wrong interpretation?). Those are my reasons for not agreeing with the theory. In my mind, it is not sound. The invalidity of the argument needs to be corrected to keep fallacious arguments from polluting real logic and debate within the community.

Those are my reasons. I feel like I’ve explained myself numerous times at this point. If you’d like to discuss it further, feel free to message me on my Facebook account as I don’t feel like carrying out a one-on-one argument with somebody in public.