Pumpkinhead Revisit – Commentary

Spoony | Jun 11 2010 | more | 
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Details behind the making of this impossible review!

(Gameplay by: http://www.youtube.com/user/mmntw26)

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  • crnrdfox

    oh my god, this game was terrible. I still cant believe u revisited with a commentary. Pretty entertaining though. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zlatan-Andreev/100000672535638 Zlatan Andreev

    God that game sucks ass.It definitely needed a commentary

  • saint23thomas

    The game that beat LordKaT… wow.
    I can see why you wanted to cut corners, and just use footage that someone else recorded.

  • emptysquare

    That is, quite possibly, the most cryptic thing since LOST. In a secret ending, Soleil Moon Frye wakes up and realizes Pumpkinhead was all a dream that takes place in purgatory, that takes place after a plane crash…

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/alex.ddark Loonie

    Wow, dude, great vide-PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE, DUDE, PLEASE POST THE NEXT DEADLY PREMONITION THING, I LOVE YOUR LP's, DUDE

    yeah.

    thanks.

  • popov89

    after a hard day at work dealing with people who can't accept we're out of something or what have you, it sure is nice to hear Spoony bitch about something. Venting for vents sake just eases everything.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lou.nolastnamegiven Lou Nolastnamegiven

    Big props to mmntw26! *subscribes to his YT channel*

  • http://twitter.com/Beyrob Robert Beyda

    Oh yeah the danceing pumpkinhead…the horror. God bless you mmntw!

  • satansbestbuddy

    I disagree.

    That was the most brilliant ending to ever grace a game.

    Though that's from the perspective of someone watching you suffer through it.

    If I did it myself, I would probably cry.

  • Kevin_Holsinger

    Good evening Spoony and fellow Spooners.

    You actually do a pretty decent LordKat, Spoony. Not quite as deep as his voice, but not bad.

    I looked online to see if they sold a strategy guide for this game, and nothing immediately showed up. Rather strange, given that the 90s were when you had games like Myst and Ripper that seemed intentionally designed to be accompanied by strategy guides (which, of course, they made you purchase separately).

  • http://dragonacesg7.livejournal.com/profile Dragons_Dusk

    Wow, didn't know that Lord Kat wrote all of that, you guys work well together.

    And I really have to say a big thank you to the fan who did the whole play through. Man must have incredible patience.

    Thanks for getting this out before you had to head out to E3, Spoony!

  • http://twitter.com/StormKwick Storm Kwick

    I really think you should do a stream of titanic adventure out of time, it was the first PC game I ever bought, as a kid i didn't beat it, but later i went back played it again and beat it without a walk-through, as long as you keep notes of important things like people's room #s and other important info it isnt too hard, so yeah if there is a chance you would still stream it, than i would suggest it

  • Akuosa

    I thought that dancing Pumpkinhead video was an easter egg, or you know, a joke that showed up after the actual ending. Stupid, yeah, but a joke. You mean THAT is the ending? That's… I have no words.
    Maybe the “you weren't meant to actually beat the game” theory is right after all, because I see no other explanation. I still don't know WHY the developers would do that, but yeah, i don't see why they would put that ending there otherwise either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dylan-Malanchuk/100000655702339 Dylan Malanchuk

    I have to say, Spoony dose a wonderful Lordkat impression :P

  • hadzu

    kinda funny that 2 people would comment on the exact same thing… at the exact same time! it must be fate o.O

  • http://twitter.com/ElJeasel Justin Bell

    Wow, you have a knack for imitating voices. Your Walken is pretty good, your McDowell is dead on, and your LordKat is pretty good stuff too.

  • http://twitter.com/AladarCZ John Doe

    I'm jealous, you must've had lot of fun in Reno :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Freddy-Duran/100000817426762 Freddy Duran

    Lols spoony you should try to find the dev team and ask them why the hell they made this game

  • godzillaexpert

    I beat the Until we Win guy?! It beat LordKat?!? The Guy who beat, Silver Surfer! This game is of the Devil!

  • QuetzaDrake

    Would this really be considered an Until We Win defeat? It wasn't like LordKaT couldn't beat the game because it was impossibly hard, like all his other reviews. Silver Surfer and Battletoads were ridiculous, but they WERE beatable. Pumpkinhead, though, isn't a matter of difficulty but a matter of just completely inane thinking by the dev team, where you would have to just get incredibly lucky or spend so much of your life figuring things out through trial and error.

    If Pumpkinhead and LordKaT were swordfighting Monkey Island-style, Pumpkinhead wasn't saying incredibly witty insults that would be near impossible to outdo, it was merely shouting a lot of random gibberish that he couldn't respond to.

  • Son_Of_Jack_Deth

    This was a very cool video, but you should really turn down the volume on the review so we can actually hear the commentary. It is very difficult the way it is.

    But still entertaining. Good work.

  • JerryPac

    I remember when I found the full play through on Youtube. It was the middle of the night and I should have been studying for finals, but I had to watch it, every last second of it. I'd love to hear how he made the connections to figure out how to beat the game. I couldn't get over how calmly he explained how to do everything as if it were obvious the whole time. Every game with puzzles requires you to make some kind of leap in logic at some point that you're forced to accidentally stumble upon the solution to. If you're lucky you'll guess the solution right away and won't have any problems. That's the only thing I can think of, he just got lucky over and over with the first stupid thing he decided to try.

    Every thing in that game is just an incredible leap in logic. No, that's not right. The game itself is a massive chasm that separates you from logic. And logic is getting raped by a man in a Pumpkinhead suit who misplaced the feet part of his costume and is wearing a new pair of clean white sneakers.

  • JerryPac

    No, if this game had insult sword fighting Pumpkinhead would start by delivering the witty retort then you'd have to watch twelve poorly compressed movies with a talisman equipped before finding a hidden room where you have to use a toaster on hammer and god help you if you accidentally grabbed the toast. The game's unbeatable if you do that.

  • Anonymous

    Awesome stuff, you do a great Jason impression by the way =)

  • JayRam

    'Sup, spoony. If you want to check out a new point-and-click game, there's Shutter Island for PC based on Scorsese's film. Don't know how good (or bad) it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Schmidt/1043467958 Mike Schmidt

    Maybe he reverse-engineered the game and figured it all out? That would take way more time than it's worth.. but some people have a lot of time.

  • http://www.boredomsedge.com ObieWanCoyote

    Wow Spoony backpedals faster than I do with my wife =p. Big ups to mmntw26, I'm sure he's a little less sane for playing through that. But who needs sanity, it's highly overrated.

  • http://twitter.com/crawdkenny Dan Seminara

    Maybe the guy who beat the game was one of the developers. As for why he never said so, you DID threaten the developers if you ever found any of them at the end of the first video. ;P

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/JXBOPVOATEEZ2MEP67SCMGI53U Nick

    That ending is still the most disturbing thing I've every seen in my entire life.

    Oh yeah. They still do point-and-click adventure games… just mostly on the DS. Phoenix Wright would be the most well-known.

  • http://twitter.com/Hubbe128 Hubbe King

    You tit your hat at him?

    Well that's what it sounded like!

  • L1nk1

    Just lovely ending

  • anonns

    way back i seen that pumpkin heads revenge vid…it came attached with a walkthrough…hint hint

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1844354334 Matthew Clark

    Wow. You know, the ending to this game reminded of another game's ending. Zero Wing. Dancing. Raisins. In. Space….. :

  • devilfish

    You know, if Jason can't beat it, if in fact only one guy in the known world can beat it and nobody knows it exists, I don't really think it qualifies as a game. I call foul. The UWW guy is still undefeated in my book!

  • http://www.facebook.com/cjbazin Chantel Josephin Heart Bazin

    i think this game would rob you of so much of your brain power to beat that the ending would just be the little push to send you diving off to total insanity.

  • rosenrot234

    that damn dancing in the end is still painful to watch

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    NOOOOOOOO!!!!! You can't do a let's play of Titanic: Adventure Out of Time I have dibs on that or Broken Sword either. You managed to pick out the very 2 games I wanted to do.

  • spectervonbaren

    So this game created Rick Rolling before it was even invented…

  • http://bwmedia.wordpress.com/ ShadowWing Tronix

    Maybe it's because I'm not into Pumpinkhead (or any other horror movie, really), but I find the ending kind of funny in a silly sort of way.

  • moonymonster

    Is anyone else having problems viewing this? I can get the other videos to load, but not this one, and I'd love to watch it. Help?

  • Son_Of_Jack_Deth

    OK, let's try this again (I can't seem to get the comments to appear)…

    Though I really did enjoy this video, the audio levels desperately need to be fixed. The original videos audio is way too high and I often could not hear what you were saying in your commentary due to this.

    Still, this was a fun video to start with and an enjoyable commentary all around.

  • sprode

    Titanic Adventure Out of Time? Oh no! I've beaten that game multiple times in my childhood, heheh. Nowhere near as hard as Pumpkinhead looks because IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE.

    Just surprised to randomly hear that anyone actually knows about that old thing. Ze are good!

  • Mohia

    Wish I could go back in time and re-do my uni project. Ending my game with me in an odd pumpkin-head suit would of likely gained me some bonus marks….or have me committed to the local asylum.
    Either way it's win win.

  • http://cynik.co.uk Cynik

    Can you imagine, this game that only perhaps 1-3 people have beaten in the history of its existence :?

  • LilSilverPhoenix

    I think you should still steam Titanic, Spoony. Mmntw26 skipped a lot of the puzzles and parts in the game that I remembered to be difficult.

  • Eniliad

    Hey, the games that LordKaT beats are games that are either hard for two reasons:

    1. They don't give you adequate means to defeat the enemies you're set against.

    2. It's crippled due to bad game design.

    Sometimes it's both, but still, it's within those two parameters. THIS game, however, is a totally different category. One that I haven't seen since I wrote shitty adventure games as a kid. We're talking about a game that does the equivalent of you playing a poker game for the first time, not knowing what cards you want to keep or the rank of the hands, and having other players tell you, as they screw you over, about the rules you didn't know about. In short, you don't know the rules of the game, and the game laughs at you for not GUESSING the rules. Even with the manual you're screwed.

  • Eniliad

    Wait – is there any reason why two internet personalities can't review the same material? Why is that so taboo?

  • sassamura

    mmntw pwns you all.

  • schmendrick

    Love the commentary, as always, Spoony. It's just plain fun listening to you ramble and voice all of our collective opinions. :)

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ alldreamsfalldown

    I'm just kidding. Spoony can do what he likes. I was just suprised that he mentioned the very two games i'd like to do.

  • LegendoftheSkies

    Spoiler: mmntw is actually the one who designed this game.

  • igotblueballs

    undeated my ass he uses savestates… he just couldnt beat this game cuz he couldnt use save states

  • devilfish

    WHAT! The UWW guy is a fucking CHEATER? Oh noez! My faith in internet reviewers-slash-comedians is completely shattered! Who will I turn to in this cold unfeeling world if I can't even trust the dude who reviews bad games on the internet? My life, it is ruined! Savestates, of all things… What is this world coming to… Next you'll be telling me Dr Insano is just a character Spoony invented for comedic effect *shudder*

  • http://www.facebook.com/FunkyM217 Simon J. Broome

    Awesome stuff, Spoonmeister. : )

    Makes me glad I never played this game. I still say you need to do Super Turrican tho.

  • igotblueballs

    hes “undeated” is what you said … he cant beat games that he cant cheat with save states in simply enough your attempt at being funny was poor fanboy … remember no save states no cheating play the game like the designer intended … that lasted about 3 episodes

  • devilfish

    Dude, lighten up. The 'Until We Win' thing is a just gimmick. Nobody cares. The idea of someone out there feeling so cheated and angry at the thought of being lied to so HORRIBLY just tickles me. I wouldn't be this upset if my boyfriend told me he's been cheating on me and lied about it for a year. Deep breaths, alright?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FN5ON2V64ZLOSUN2B2B7AUXZ7I NatT

    How do you know he is cheating? Is it really that hard to believe Jason is beating these games without save states? I beat Who Framed Roger Rabbit when I was a kid (perseverance and patience – and exploiting the bugs here and there) so I doubt he had to cheat for most of these. Most “hard” Nintendo games only require timing and memorization to beat: they are overblown games of the Simon memory game and little more.

  • DeadCatsBounce

    You're right. LordKaT is in fact very “deated”. Whatever that means.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lwarde1 Luce Warde

    I actually hate the factthat this game EXISTS to the pointthat I woke up today when the song from the ending sequence was playing(For what reason,I dunno)and I actually had nightterrors aboutthis shitty game and it's reckoning strike on my morale haunts me from this day forward.

  • http://twitter.com/Gotcherry92 Christina D.

    I think the only object in that game that has the slightest bit of connection to the game would be the doll. It's probably a reference to the little charm thing in the first movie. And when I was watching this I couldn't help but think I've seen Andrew Robinson somewhere else. He was Larry in “Hellraiser.” It was bugging me for so long until I went through IMDb.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DQGWWL2LP23UV4QRSVT6RFH4BI Benjamin

    What's with the song in the ending? When I look up the phrases “you might be the one to make me want to settle down” and “you might be the one to finally turn this boy around”, I don't get any hits on any search engines except in the context of Pumpkinhead's Revenge. What is the name of the song? Was it written specifically for the game/movie?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DQGWWL2LP23UV4QRSVT6RFH4BI Benjamin

    What’s with the song in the ending? When I look up the phrases “you might be the one to make me want to settle down” and “you might be the one to finally turn this boy around”, I don’t get any hits on any search engines except in the context of Pumpkinhead’s Revenge. What is the name of the song? Was it written specifically for the game/movie?

  • http://www.facebook.com/octopodesrex Jacob Elias Land

    Andrew Robinson? Only the most AWESOME Cardassian ever, Elim Garak!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H24G7OXSNJTI7CGZIRUJBJFH3Q TekJansen

    Aww, given the recent vid this commentary should have ended with “Pumpkinhead is dead… OR IS HE!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H24G7OXSNJTI7CGZIRUJBJFH3Q TekJansen

    Aww, given the recent vid this commentary should have ended with “Pumpkinhead is dead… OR IS HE!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brent-Hannum/1037424279 Brent Hannum

    The problem with any point and click game is that it does not matter what YOU think, what matters is what the devs think.

    If the devs say ‘Using the mustard on the gopher makes it chew off your left kneecap and your search for a stick to use as a crutch leads you to a golden disc which you use to make the end boss reveal his true form before you shove it up his arse and watch him fart holy fire as he burns from the inside out and you have to dodge the flames for 5 minutes real-time!’ then you have to figure that out. Even if you are given the choice to use that same mustard on a ham sandwitch to make your girlfriend happy so she does not leave you for being a bad sandwitch maker. Because you knew the secret ‘holy demon fart ending’ had her get back together with you, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brent-Hannum/1037424279 Brent Hannum

    The problem with any point and click game is that it does not matter what YOU think, what matters is what the devs think.

    If the devs say ‘Using the mustard on the gopher makes it chew off your left kneecap and your search for a stick to use as a crutch leads you to a golden disc which you use to make the end boss reveal his true form before you shove it up his arse and watch him fart holy fire as he burns from the inside out and you have to dodge the flames for 5 minutes real-time!’ then you have to figure that out. Even if you are given the choice to use that same mustard on a ham sandwitch to make your girlfriend happy so she does not leave you for being a bad sandwitch maker. Because you knew the secret ‘holy demon fart ending’ had her get back together with you, right?

  • Anonymous

    Spoony, you and LordKat should have done the same as what Nolstalgia Critic did to “Neverending story 3″ and went all “Gordon Freeman” on the game case and dvd with a crowbar…or better still, take it to the shooting range, attach it onto the frame where the target normally goes, send it back to the far wall, take a lazer sighted shotgun and go to town on it!

  • http://twitter.com/psycojosh Josh

    I could not imagine having to play through a game like this. I do not have the patients.

  • http://twitter.com/psycojosh Josh

    I could not imagine having to play through a game like this. I do not have the patients.

  • http://twitter.com/psycojosh Josh

    I could not imagine having to play through a game like this. I do not have the patients.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Jennings/1302407658 Rob Jennings

    There was a game like this… can’t remember what. Had Erika Eleniak in it. If I remember correctly the FMV in this game is similar to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Kim/100000476333137 Peter Kim

    “Jason being gay- gamer”
    i think we all know what was on your mind, spoony. :)

  • Michael Cantwell

    I have a feeling this guy that beat Pumpkinhead might have been one of its devs. Considering the level of intuitiveness outlined from that guys walkthrough on Youtube, it seems to be the most plausible explanation on how he was able to understand the completely inverted logic of the game that no common gamer would be able to piece through.

    Or maybe hes an idiot savant and for every Pumpkinhead-like game he conquers, he still can’t tie his shoes.

  • http://twitter.com/Jesseraygarza Jesse Garza

    Oh my God, he is dancing so silly and wearing sneakers! Shit brought me to tears! XD

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.rose.921 John Rose

    The guy who beat this game wasn’t a dev, he was just a huge fan of the pumpkin head series. He also said he knew a lot about BAP and also made loose logic thinking, like assuming a fire extinguisher to put out lava. Stuff like that beat the game for him.

  • MarcyAMcOttt

    So… this is the comment about the review?
    but… where is the review?

  • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.durham.7 Daniel Durham

    wow this game just makes absolutely no sense. it looks like he’s going straight through walls with no indication that they may be portals to differen areas. devs must have been on acid

  • Daniel Kulkarni

    Am I missing something here? I can’t seem to find this video itself without Spoony’s commentary. Ah, nevermind, I see that there’s a link in this here comments section.

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