Sweet as always sir!

I have not been this excited for a game since Empire TW.

Starcraft 2, Fallout Las Vegas, Deus Ex 3, new Total War. And I thought I was just about done with video games :)

You are being harshly unfair to nintendo. I HATE MOTION CONTROLS, but the new Zelda game looks like it uses them perfectly.

This +1000.

Seriously Mafia 1 is in my top10 games list all time.

I'm with ya spoony X-com looks like garbage. I'd rather do Pen and Paper X-com than another generic FPS.

Old

Classic X-Com it is not. Just looks like another shooter to me.

Haha, spoony mocking Joe.

I'm gonna have to side with Joe on this guys. Everything I've read in various interviews and articles about X-Com points to a lot of the old school elements still being present. Choice of research direction is still there, learning the aliens motives and plans is still there, varying mission types are still there (one article even hinted at the large scale terror missions returning) and a whole bunch of other stuff too. And I don't mind the art style. It's no more cartoony than, say, The Old Republic, and personally I'm tired of art styles that end up in uncanny valley.

You just copy and pasted your last post… what the hell dude.

YOu and Joe actually have pretty good chemistry. You should do more work together.

I loved Joes face when Spoony started screaming “BETRAYAL!!!”
xD. Can't wait for the video from day 3 :D

I'm anxious to hear more about the civ5 :p

and maybe there will be reviews about the series.

Glad to hear that DX3 just might have some emphasis on stealth gameplay. That trailer was nothing short of amazing, though my favorite part of it was that song. My GOD, I want that fucking song in MP3 format right the fuck now. Anyway, that's about the only game out of the entire lineup that I'm waiting for. I hope it delivers what Eidos Montreal is promising. Oh, and I had no idea Square was publishing it. Huh. It seems like Square's really been pushing its way into the Western gaming market nowadays. I'm not sure how I feel about that…

That Deus Ex trailer was amazing! I had chills going through my spine! I'm kinda in between Joe and Spoony with this X-Com thing. I really like the old X-Com's and I'm kinda pissed that they went so batshit insane with the new X-Com. I agree, it would have been better if the new X-Com would've been a remake of the old ones. All I can do is hope that this new installment is going to kick ass, I haven't given up hope yet.

So is this how the Dark Joe/Spoony-Wan fight gets started?

Awesome video! You should REALLY do more stuff together with Angry Joe. I cannot wait for your Spoony-Wan vs. Dark Joe episodes.

But in any case I am more on the side of Spoony in several things. Angry Joe does a good job, but his taste of games is not very close to my own. To make it short: I preordered the Civilization V Digital Deluxe Edition…

I'll say the research seems like a lengthy way to upgrade and unlock new weapons, giving the game a repetitive RPG grind in place of tactical research development. Picking missions is pointless if they are all the same mission, AKA blow the hell out of aliens. It worked in the first X-com game because you were doing it tactically with your team, here it's going to be another generic FPS with a lousy upgrade system, if they implement team based commands it will STILL be inferior to swat because of the nature of your enemy! Breaking into a room and holding it doesn't fucking mean jack shit with an enemy that will come out of fucking pipes! Slime enemies are GARBAGE to fight against. They aren't fun! because they have fucking simple AI and don't provide a tactical challenge, rather they are a cheap thrill. Without Humanoid enemies with like… fucking guns, your just running around clearing out fucking slime. It doesn't matter how many guns they give you, or how many times they invade your base, your still just shooting generic lame enemies. The fact that they are not really hyping ANYTHING important means that it is going to just be garbage. Making decisions on where you go? Upgrading weapons? These things have been done, and been done better. And really they expect fans of X-Com, a turn based strategy game, to get this?! NO! they are trying to pull in a new group of people, and I'm not sure they are going to do even that. But whatever. I'm so over this. NEXT!

If they don't add in any of the features Spoony's looking for on XCom, they need to program one of the guys to come over to the players character and tell him, “You're in my way sir…”.

More like if Christopher Nolan directed a cyberpunk…actually, it seems more like what would happen if somebody took Nolan's comment about showing Blade Runner to his crew when they were making Batman Begins literally.

Gooooing to have to agree with Joe on XCOM this time, sorry Spoony. You might be right on a lot of issues, but you seem WAY more biased about it all than usual, being such a huge XCOM fan. It's something completely different and that's what pisses you off about it, not necessarily anything about the game on its own (besides the “cartoony” style, which is a subjective preference for anyone).

And it's not about you being angry, cause you were angry about Avatar, and I totally agreed with you and I totally got just as angry, but this time it's more about the nostalgia bias than the legitimate hate.

>my car isn't broke, but I still have to maintain it. I still have to change the oil, I have to put gas in it, I have to service it. If I don't change my oil, my car fucking dies.
And that's exactly what Nintendo does with their core franchises. They stick with what works in some areas(plot, core gameplay) and experiment in other areas(level design, new gameplay elements).

Little Cindy Lou Who: “Why Santa Spoony? Why are you hating on Zelda? Why?”

i know i hate sequels to badass games like mass effect 2 was good but i dont like how they simplified things like i chose engineer in the first one becuase i liked hacking but now it isnt any fun cause i can use any of em but on a related note i actually went and bought deus ex game of the year version and its hard but man its worth it

On the topic of Deus Ex, does anyone know how to get the game of the year edition from steam working on windows 7? I've been trying to play it, but it crashed before it even loads into the menu.

This seems like they are focusing a lot more on the augmentations. Which might be good. Oddly enough, despite the nano-augs being a major plot point, they were not really that important for gameplay in Deus Ex.

It was totally possible to play the game without significant augmentions. Heck, since they had to be turned on and off, and often had high power requirements, some of them had a run time you would measure in seconds…nevermind if you had to run more than one at a time…I just found them inconvent, and they really didn't feel like they were part of you. Half the time they were just gizmos that they tried to pass off as 'bionic'. Good lord, they tried to make the damn flashlight sound fancy!

Seriously, the implementation was terrible.

Ok fine, they take power, but why doesn't my strength enhancement just kick in when i lift something heavy? Why do I have to turn it on? And if I do have to turn it on, but I'm not lifting anything, why is it draining power? Where is the energy going? MAKES NO SENSE!

Who would spends gazillions of dollars inventing tech that does roughly what a flak vest does, but only for a minute or two and the soldier has to constantly hunt down energy cells like a junkie looking for his next fix? “Oh my implanted armor ran out of juice, hold on i have to…eat this battery” Seriously, what did you do with those batteries?

That's actually one thing DX2 did kinda right, a lot more of the augs were constant effect “always on” enhancements.

I already replied to an earlier post, but I need to put this out on its own:

I get that some people can get tired of a game series; I know I'm tired of Halo and already tired of Gears of War. But I would never say that each game is 'exactly the same' (at most, just 'nearly the same', but that's just due to nitpicking things like recycled animations and visual assets). I do know that they throw curve balls in the gameplay and add new content each time, but I'm just tired of shooters.

But to dismiss the Zelda series as 'exactly the same' is just… well, about as close-minded as you can get, since the reasons I'm reading in the comments section as well as what I heard from the video can be applied to every sequel in existence. So a new visual look, new locales, levels, and items don't constitute as 'new'? Not only does that eliminate practically every avenue a game could take to be different, but that means every series is in the same boat as Zelda (except for maybe Final Fantasy, but we all know how much Spoony loves the changes Square made to that series).

I, for one, haven't gotten tired of Zelda games because, each time I boot the next one up, I may know the formula, but I don't know the procedure. When I enter a dungeon, I don't know where to go first. I don't know which room will have the item I'm looking for. I don't know what enemies there will be or what the bosses will be like. Even though Twilight Princess was the throwback to Ocarina of Time that fans wanted, the playthrough was anything but the same. That's not even getting into the overworld aspect. In short: I still enjoy the formula, and using it in different locations is reason enough to still play it, much like how people buy DLC campaigns for games like Fallout.

Again, it's okay to be tired of a series, but there has to be a better reason than 'it's the same thing except that they changed everything,' from what I've read here. I can understand being tired of a genre or a series' formula, but how do you expect to be taken seriously when you say 'every game is exactly the same'? Only people who haven't played the games would actually say that with a straight face, which really gets you thinking.

I am really liking you and Joe's coverage of E3. It's entertaining and giving me info on games I want to know all at the same time.

About XCOM, I agree with both you and Joe actually, as far as what we have seen so far. I'm with Spoony that this isnt XCOM and really they could've named it anything and it would just be another game. That being said, I am with Joe in that I like the art style and the game itself intrigues me and I want to see what all comes from it. If nothing else, I will definitely at least rent it.

Anyway, loving the E3 coverage. Your interview skills are getting better. Just need to remember to figure out what to do with your microphone arm before the interview =P
I found that kind of amusing.

Gotta agree with Joe on the subject of Xcom, Spoony. The problem with these demos is that they give just enough to hype up a game, but not enough to really tell you about a game. Case in point was the Star Trek MMO, which was really hyped up, but wound up being rubbish. Try not to dismiss or overhype a game until significant details are made public, because the results are often far different than what was anticipated.

If you haven't played the original x-com games… go play them now. :D The entire collection is available for 10$ on Steam.

But yes. I'm open to the series' new direction, honestly. Maybe they can do it really well – a ground level glimpse into things.

I still want to see a modernized turn based tactical game that's like x-com.

A new major console Zelda isn't announced every E3, the last console Zelda was Twilight Princess and that was announced back then at E3 2003, the only ones latter were Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, and those were small announcements because they were minor DS games. Metroid is almost the same, with even less games announced (last one announced was Prime 3, back in 2005). You're right about Mario though.

Also, in Zelda, the enemies, items, story, characters, graphic style and dungeons change every time, sure they maintain the core gameplay mechanics, but refining the combat and other aspects. I still can't get tired of it like I do of killing the Nazis/terrorists/aliens with my one-man army in first person perspective for the 1000th time (most of these hardly have decent story or characters, or even try to do something different aside from a new set of the same weapons with different appearances). That genre peaked with half life.

Of course you don't have to agree with my tastes (second paragraph), you don't have to like the same things (and that's part of the reason I watch your show) but the first paragraph was to correct your exageration.

No. Some sequels don't change in style, see: ratchet and clank, crash bandicoot, halo, and so on. Location doesn't always change either half-life 2 and episode one both take place in city 17 for almost the entire time. Half-Life 1 and it's expansions all took place in black mesa. Final Fantasy X-2 took place in Spira, Bioshock 2 is in rapture, many of the zelda games (but not all) took place in Hyrule multiple times. Not every game has dungeons. However it is true that virtually every game sequel will have new items, depending on what you count as items.

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.

I'm with Spoony on the X-Com thing. When I first saw the trailer for it, I thought it was fucking Fallout. It looks so goddamn generic, and I don't see why GOOD older franchises need to be turned into shooters. Fuck that.

I love the contrast between Spoony and Joe. Spoony is the jaded, cynical gamer who will look at something and say “So what?” Joe is a little more casual, a little more willing to accept a game just because it looks cool. I'm more Spoony than Joe but I'm glad there is a voice for both ends of the spectrum.

I'm right there with Spoony in my dislike for the new X-Com game. It's mostly because of the name. Yes, it seems trivial, but when you put the X-Com label on a game, it creates expectations. A sequel can change the gameplay or tweak the setting. Changing both entirely though? Right out. A great example of the right way to do things would be the Might and Magic games. The M&M RPGs came first, followed by the Heroes of Might and Magic strategy series. They all shared the same setting though. Heroes of Might and Magic 2 was about the Succession Wars, which merited a strategic game. Might and Magic VI was about the quest to right the realm in the aftermath. Good RPG setting. They came together in a perfect overlap of complimentary games.

I wasn't a huge fan of HoMM V but it featured the same style of gameplay and general sense of atmosphere, so I wasn't that bothered with the use of the franchise tag. This X-Com game doesn't feature the same setting as X-Com (50's? WTF?) and doesn't feature the same gameplay. So why would you even try to entice X-Com fans to the party? Sure, it has aliens and research but those things aren't exclusive to the X-Com franchise (Master of Orion had those!). The company could have given X-Com to someone who gave a damn about the series and called their game something else.

It seems trivial but if you don't want people to bring expectations to the party that won't be fulfilled, don't use that franchise tag so lightly. Few gaming companies purchase an intellectual property because they really like it. They buy it because it gives them an established name to cash in on. Why take a risk by creating an original IP when you can just buy an established one? They are within their rights, I'm a capitalist and I can see the appeal. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. I hate the practice, just as I hate Hollywood's sequel-itis. It's easy, it's cheap, it's fast and it's lazy.

Yahtzee's a poet, man.

Some people have balls, some people don't.

Noah wanted a game that was a STEP UP NOT A STEP SIDEWAYS. He makes sense.

Whether he is correct, or not, is for US to decide.

anyone else get a dark Ghost in the Shell feel from the trailer? (and yeah I know GinS isn't all puppies and sunshine)

Especially since Olmec is an Incan name, not an Aztec one.

Awesome coverage!

Haha, loved when you freaked out about the new XCOM and the trailer started with “May contain content inappropriate for children”. Oh, and too bad, by the way.

Fucking quote for truth.
Noah you're the man. I've been ranting about this shit “XCOM” for days now.
All these fucking years I've wanted a true successor to the X-COM series, UFO came close but fucked it up with Afterlight. I did like UFO Extraterrestrials though.
In the end, what made the X-COM series amazing was their simple and addictive gameplay. I mean I've tried to beat the original tons of times and managed to do it only a few, but each time I try I do it with the same excitement.
Thank you 2Kgames for fucking X-Com.

Ah, then you were misled. The great thing about Deus Ex was its story and its choices, which, back then, were extremely innovative and a lot of fun (and I believe they still are). It has aged considerably, but there's just something about it that makes me come back to it all the time. I'm currently on what must be my 30th or so playthrough and I'm still not tired of it, despite knowing every single bit if dialogue and scenery by heart.

If what Eidos Montreal says is true, Human Revolution will NOT be an open-ended, sandbox-type game. It will just FEEL like one, which is what the original game achieved. You have a ton of choices in character development and how you complete any given task, but the story is still linear and progresses pretty much the same regardless. The only things affected by your actions are some dialogue and maybe alliances, but nothing major. Like I said, the real treats to take from Deus Ex are the plot and the ability to choose how you complete a mission. You don't get to choose the missions themselves or anything.

I'm sorry but Deus Ex 3 looks lame and not very creativy. And also Deus Ex 1 sucks. But the new Zelda looks great, could we expect an old school style Zelda? It would be great.

Spoony, I agree, Nintendo is too franchisy and I think their franchises are getting old. But I think that me and you need to at least give this new Zelda game a chancce. One, I appreciate Miyamoto's work. Two, Miyamoto even went on to say this game will be a turning point in Zelda. So I think we all need to give it a try. That and I already pre-ordered it.

Spoony you are certainly a good guy, and while I respect your convictions mainly your ability to refuse to be a pushover it still needs to be said you are extremely cynical. I'm not complaining about your quirks since it is part of the reason your reviews are so damn funny, but it still makes it a bit hard not to get frustrated when you begin getting very subjective without even giving the product/game a full test drive. While I release you don't talk about the Kinect is this video I think it is the perfect example of something you need to learn to be objective with your dissection. You claimed from what you saw “it didn't work” but unless you actually tried it how can you say it was at the fault of the hardware, and not the person actually using it? Remember we haven't even seen a small portion of the full amount of it's capabilities. For example, the Kinect is capable of accurate head tracking allowing it to provide a single user with a 3D perspective without the goofy glasses or a new TV. The same could be said about your views on the new Zelda game, and New Vegas.The difference between the two is that I see where you are coming from with New Vegas even if I do not agree. I'll admit I am far from sold with what we have seen so far for Skyward Sword, but I refuse to write it off before I even get a chance to experience it first hand.

Anyways I couldn't help but giggle over how excited you seemed to be over Deus Ex Human Revolution. I would have acted like a kid on Christmas myself if I was there too! I can't wait for that game!

Jeez Spoony, What were you thinking?

Insulting Zelda on the internet? You know who defensive those freaks get when you criticize their precious mute fruitball elf and his pretty green dress!

With you and Joe arguing about X-Com, I must say I'd side with… both.
You really have a point there. From what we've seen, it's not X-Com, it'll never be X-Com and it will upset most gamers that remember the old ones… Instantly jading a potential fan base that could've been added to the one that the game attempts to build.

Cause. Joe is right as well. The game can still be pretty interesting. I mean, forget it's about X-Com and the bits we've seen were actually very engaging and atmospheric. The biggest mistake made was to label the games according to a franchise oldschool gamers love. Give it a different name and the developers could not only loose a lot of pressure, but gain a lot of freedom story wise. Hell, you could even call it “Attack of the Killer Blobs from Space” to give it that tacky feeling of old horror movies and give the atmosphere a humorous twist similar to the one of Stubs the Zombie (we seriously need more games like that).

It's just… so much SAFER to label it X-Com… which is sad, because as stand alone, the game would have the potential please a lot more gamers and do lot more things in a unique way.

First they make Fallout a 1st person shooter and now they make X-com a 1st person shooter? FPS' haven't really interested me since the original Playstation when I did find Medal of Honor a lot of fun, but they just get so old after awhile. I used to play a lot of Doom and Quake too back in the day that I'm just sick of FPS' now and really have no interest in spending any time with them. It's even worse that they are just slapping old franchise names on them and having them being so different from what gamers in the 90's remembered (well I was gaming in the 80's too ha) them to be.

Anyways the video was still entertaining it's funny how yours and Joe's opinions completely flipped when you came outta the demo for X-com.

It took me a while to get into Deus Ex. I had heard it was good, and I fiddled about with the demo several times over the course of months, but it just didn't grab me. But then they released an expanded demo, once past liberty island with a few skill points invested in J.C and gameplay style opening, up in the Hell's Kitchen section I was totally hooked. Best game ever? I donno, that's a hell of a title to casually slap on anything. But there are reasons it's on a lot of people's short list.

I really don't know what your complaint is with the stealth though, the mechanics have a bit of a learning curve, but they're actually more forgiving than a lot of games. When you get the hang of it you can trot around behind people and have them none the wiser.

The crossbow DOES make sense, that thing is tiny. Realistically it probably has less killing power than a .22 pistol, and those are notoriously unreliable even with headshots. It's basically a tranq dart delivery system, not an assassination weapon. Though kills with it do become possible if JC has a very high Pistols skill rating.

So, Spoony rants about how Fallout New Vegas and Zelda are more of the same game repackaged, but gets mad when X-Com is changed TOO much? And I don't know, Deus Ex seems like it's just using the original game's plot for the third time, while trying to copy what made the first one great. Obviously I can't really tell until the game is released, but I'm still pretty darn skeptical…I thought the trailer looked awful.

I love Spoony, and I'm enjoying his E3 videos. Just thought it was interesting.

Well if you have a long successful series like say Zelda that has over 10 installments then sure. What the hell go crazy an make a new twist on it. X-Com though really only had 2 good games. An some spin offs. Most of which were not good enough for people to even bother trying to get to run well on modern systems.

So yeah most fans of X-Com are really hungry for more of the same at this point considering how long its been. Not for a game that seems to only have the name an is otherwise another bland looking FPS.

hahahahah I love this. Spoony and Joe are both un-scripted but have great chemistry together. it's funny and entertaining to see them argue about a game. These dudes should totally do cross overs more often!

I'm with you on X-Com so very very much Spoony…

I'm so very angry. We've been waiting for decades.. and now this.

Its not X-Com. They saw 'hey, Fallout was 50's like! That was popular! Fallout was popular as an FPS! lets cut and paste! We'll call it X-Com'

Sorry to say… Angry Joe really just feels like he's betraying us here. He seems to drool on anything that lets you shoot a gun first person.

Go Spoony.

Well, mostly western PC RPGs. But there were quite a few non-linear games back then. There was the Ultima games, Pandora Directive, Wing Commander 3 to a certain extent. I remember in Quest for Glory there were 3 main quests and you didn't have to complete all of them to finish the game. They all had there limitations and nun of them were completely open ended but they did have actual choices in them. At the time I appreciated the limited impact I had on the story and from that the fans of Deus Ex were telling me I thought there would be a lot more in that game.

These days, there is stuff like Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Fallout 3. Again, they all have there limitations, but that's because the game programmers can't put everything in the game.

Like I said in my opening post, I'm not denying the game was open in the way you accomplished the mission goals but if it comes to a choice between having open levels and an open story I'd choose story every time.

heh.. I went and downloaded Deus Ex 2…

Can't wait for this to come out looks amazing!
Never played the 1st game sadly!
Played the 2nd one though thought it was rubbish and nothing much to it and got rid of it a week later! But this seriously looks amazing!
My jaw dropped when I saw the trailer!
So excited!

I so agree with you on this one. My main complaint however is this: why the hell call the game X-Com? It wasn't really all that popular a franchise in the first place! It was more popular with us gamers back then, in the 90s, but now, I bet you that if you ask any next-gen gamer that usually drool at games like Modern Warfare 2 and such if they ever heard about X-Com, chances are 95% are going to say 'No'… It doesn't make any sense. And to make the game a blatant Bioshock/insert your banal next gen fps here game and then telling us that “We bet that this was how the original producers wanted to make the game anyway, but didn't have the technology', is just an outright insult…
The fuck did they want to rape such a classic and beloved franchise like this is beyond me…

Well I guess I should've mentioned that I was trying to use it as a tranq gun, and that's why I was complaining about it. I assumed that a headshot with a tranquilizer dart would automatically knock them out, but maybe I've just been playing too much MGS. Or hell, maybe it does work but I just forgot to switch which ammo it uses. I was pretty unfamiliar with everything at the time so I wouldn't doubt it.

Nonetheless, I'd like to thank you as well for a non-flaming response and I will try again. In fact, I think I'll play it right now.

I agree with you. I made a comment not as detailed though but like this. I want to become a FAIR reviewer that doen't judge off of experiences but on the lines of what THIS SOLE game has to offer.

I agree with what you have to say. I think people need to shut up and realize the Wii is not good for realism and that just because it's cartoony doesn't make it not worth it. Personally I'm the person who prefer colorful, rich, beautiful enviornments, instead of dull grey realistic worlds.

Joe-”Imma Let you finish [but beyonce had the best video of all time]“

Frankly XCOM looks like total bullshit. Though I have no issue with 2K calling it an X-COM game (if X-COM Enforcer can be called an X-COM game, so can this crap), I do have issue with them calling it just plain “XCOM”. Why? Because it's a fucking lie. What does everyone call X-COM? The original – UFO Defense/Enemy Unknown depending on region. And XCOM has nothing to do with that X-COM beyond the theme of alien invasion. Nothing. Zilch. Diddly squat. Fuck all. Sweet Fanny Adams. Jack and shit, and Jack left town.

This is exactly like Infogrames' cockbag soulshitting move to rip off gamers using the goodwill generated by UFO Defense/Terror From The Deep and to a lesser extent Apocalypse (Apocalypse at least made an effort while Terror from the Deep made an effort to kill your retinas with clashing interface colours – but I digress). But 2K's attempt is even worse because they're not bothering with a subtitle that states 'this is a game in the series', but rather give it a name easily confused with the original as though to say 'we own this IP now and it is what we say it is'. It's a slap in the face to Mythos Games (and to a lesser extent, Microprose) who put out some of the most genre defining games the PC has ever seen. 2K basically busted into Gollop's home and took a Taco Bell shit in his laundry hamper for a few lousy bucks.

As for Deus Ex 3…. I want it to be good. I very very desperately want it to be good. I want to be able to walk by the Eidos Montreal offices on my way to work and want to drop in with some Timbits and coffee for 'em rather than be tempted to stalk the parking lot waiting to clobber each lead staff member with a barbed-wire cricket bat. That's what I want. But I'm afraid – and not afraid of another Invisible War. No, for all the bad rap it gets, Invisible War wasn't strictly speaking a bad game – it just wasn't on the level of one of the best games of all time. I'm afraid of getting the pureed baby food bullshit that passes for depth in most of today's games. I'm afraid of DE3 turning out to be Splinter Cell with cybernetics. This is the last chance for this series. If this game fails to live up to expectations, the name Deus Ex will become another Ion Storm dirty word, like Daikatana. I couldn't bear that to happen.

For an encore, you can download Lethal Weapon 3. Whoowee!

I makes me wonder what do we define as realism? Photo realistic graphics for any system is still far away but there are games in the past that may look old today but were considered realistic at the time. Deux ex, Shenmue, Fallout, Hitman, etc; those game were realistic to me because of the combination of graphics style and atmosphere. Even today, I find myself impressed with graphics in old games and which some modern games had the same syle that reminded me of the originals but improved.

I always loved Deus Ex, invisible war wasn't too bad although was easy.
Reminded me of system shock 2 when I played it for the first time, in the cyberpunk style sorta way.

My feelings on X-Com is this: 2K, It's a reboot. Stop pissing on our legs and telling us it's raining!

On one hand I shouldn't even be putting any of my own thoughts on X-Com because I never played the games before, either growing up or now and only recently did I learn of their existence. I was a console gamer, not a PC gamer growing up. My first computer was an Apple 2 and the first upgrade I did after that was to get a Dell XPS, that's how out of the loop I was with PC gaming. After doing a little research on the game series, I can see why Spoony is getting all up in arms about everything being thrown out that he knew and love and slapping the X-Com name on it. Because for once in a long time, I actually agree with Angry Joe, the game looks great, it looks fun and exciting and new. But it's not X-Com.

I'm certain many people would be happy if they had simply named the game something 50's Sci-Fi-like, such as “They came from Planet 9″ or “Aliens Attack!” or something, it would be totally retro and no one would know that it's an X-Com remake. But the least the company and the presenters can do us a favor and either stop calling it X-Com or just admit the truth: It's a reboot of the series entirely, they're throwing everything out to make it all it's own and if they'd just own up to it, I'm certain the fans would be less pissed off about it.

As a huge Deus Ex fan, i personally can't wait for Human Revolution. The stuff you're reported on it and the stuff i've seen on it make it out to be possibly Game of the Year material. My favorite picks from E3 so far aside from Deus Ex are Shogun 2, Fable 3 and a few others i can't seem to dig out of my gray matter at the time. Oh by the way, it's awesome that you got to go to E3 and report on all this stuff. Keep on rocking.

Glad to hear people saying this. Spoony hates the Wii, which I feel sad about. Then again, he hates pretty much most things! I love realism as much as the fantastic, and have to say that although the past couple of years have been great for violent, expansive, realistic world games, the one I've had most fun playing recently is Mario Galaxy 2.

Looking back on Wind Waker, which I'm sure is the epitome of what Spoony hates, the graphics stand up far better than any other game of the last generation – Halo 2, Okami, Shadow of the Colossus, nothing comes close. I personally think WW is still better looking in comparison to most 360, PS3 and Wii games, because the style is pretty much flawless.

I find it very hypocritical that Spoony begins by disdaining the ever growing amount of additions to franchises, then proceeds to acclaim Deus Ex 3. Which really sounds like so many other games – multiple choices to every problem – realistic, living world – stealth, non lethal play – and different ways to augment your character to kill people is nothing new! It still looks really impressive, but I feel my opinion has been tainted by his blatant hypocrisy. Just because you hate the Wii, Spoony, don't shrug it off like it's nothing. Otherwise people like me will begin to question your opinions about everything else. Sure you are allowed your own opinion, but you speak like you have never even given this system a single chance!
And the flailing arms thing – come on, that insult is older than the Wii itself and has long been proven as exaggerated antagonism. It's just the same with everything – there are the gimmicky games which make you do stupid actions with the controls, and then there are the good games.

best spoony thing spoony ever said in E3: BETRAYAL

hey cool that person in the leather jacket i have the same jacket as him coolio

its nice to see the rageflowing in noah. i would have loved to see the g4 interviews be for passionate.
I like you and AJ ‘s E3 coverage way more!

Wow, that x-com demo was like a punch to the gut. That “betrayal!!!oneone” was completely justified, echos included.

Shut the fuck up joe you dont know jack shit what youre talking about.

Yea yea its creepy theres goo everywhere bla bla bla wtf that has to do with xcom ?

Spoony was pretty much spot on on his part.

Shut the fuck up joe you dont know jack shit what youre talking about.

Yea yea its creepy theres goo everywhere bla bla bla wtf that has to do with xcom ?

Spoony was pretty much spot on on his part.

WOOO ANGRY SPOONY!!! loved it!
I kept seeing you reference this clip, so I started poking around the videos & found it, funnier seeing the whole clip of you screaming ‘betrayal!’ the look on joe’s face LOL
alright, GO SPOONY ‘I WILL AIR JUGGLE YOUR ASS!!’ that was hilarious

I love how Spoony says “betrayed me”. Sounds like he’s a preacher or something… in a good way.

 Joe sold the whole “BETRAYAL!” scream like nobody’s business there. If he wasn’t there, I’m sure it would’ve still worked.. but seeing his reaction made it golden.
And yea.. I watched this video just to hear that scream again. :)