You had an interview with Dr. Greg?

That's pretty awesome.

Ummmm Spoony you kinda slipped up on your info about Homefront. Those were North Korean troops, not Vietnamese.

Amazing as usual Spoony.

I gave up on MMOs but your review has convinced me to get the Star Wars the old republic for sure.

It's very comforting to hear someone with your high standards say they are blown away by Star Wars TOR. I really hope this game succeeds, not because I have any ill-will towards WoW, but because I believe the MMO genre is stagnant, and that WoW's near-monopoly is suppressing innovation.

The thing to understand about Sonic 4 going “backwards” is that that's what the fans want.

The company is ignoring every single sonic release after Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Why is it episodic? No idea.

But I do know that Sonic 4 is basically every Sonic fan's dream. Going back to the roots of the “good” of the game.

I for one am looking forward to Sonic 4. I will say that every Sonic (well except Sonic CD) after 3 sucks ass.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you on that Sonic bit.
Sure, it's great that they're trying to go “retro” with it, but I would much rather prefer them to find a way for Sonic to once again go toe-to-toe with Mario like the days when Sega and Nintendo dominated the mainstream video game community.
I threw out a few ideas on how the Sonic series can truly make a successful 3D transition, and when I find it again, I'll be glad to share it with you. I will continue to hold out for Sonic to make his return to the spotlight.

In regards to your Pirates of the Carribean rant, I suppose if you gave a giant boat anchor to a GIRL, it might work. Case in point: May from Guilty Gear. Fear her anchor and the accursed pink whale.
Well, at least it isn't on a chain. :P

In any case, I kinda understand your rage against the stagnant nature of video games today. Newer games tend to be more of the same, with almost little to no improvement save for the graphical facelift. Hell, I'm still facepalming over the idea that they're bringing back that whole 3D gimmick when it was already dead nearly decades ago!
Nostalgia's great and all, but at some point, the current generation needs to bring something to the table that will be immortalized alongside the greats (and fails) of old.
Or I could just be rambling on about some meaningless nonsense. I tend to do that every now and again.

Anyway, that MvC3 fight between you and Joe was almost hilarious, as was your frequent encounters with people who felt you were in their way, though I have to say that your run-in with that Space Marine was the best. XD

Yyyyep, the footage of you playing Tron just seemed like Prince of Persia. I swear Tron's wall-running animation was the exact same as the Prince's in Sands of Time.

Armada of the Damned's trailer looked pretty good. The gameplay looked alright. However, you're only half-right: it's not an RPG, it's an action RPG. You're running around and attacking enemies real-time, that would be an action RPG along the same lines as Secret of Mana. I wouldn't exactly call it God of War just because the guy is using a weapon on a chain (which, by the way, a boat anchor is AWESOME; you really need to calm down about the outlandish and silly weapons, relax and just enjoy the ridiculousness), though.

Shame you didn't get to see the 3DS. Oh well, we'll see it all eventually, and I saw a video of it being used (and seeing its amazing 3D capabilities). It's true the launch titles are mostly N64 remakes, but I think that's necessarily a bad move on Nintendo's part. This isn't like the PS3's launch where it had maybe three worthwhile games and was more expensive than a PC. Nintendo pretty much has the handheld arena by the balls and it doesn't really need to convince anyone to go for it over something else, so they probably feel like they're about to go in a different direction with their launch and giving their established old-school fans some favorites from the past.

hey, where was that 3rd guy? :D

Not surprising that Kinect doesn't work. During their fucking presentation they used pre-rendered footage and the douchebag on stage badly mimicked the moves he was supposed to make. VanQuished looks fucking cool, and as for Pirates of the Caribbean….all I can say is what the fuck. I don't mind that it's a GoW knockoff, but an anchor as a weapon? You swing around a fucking ANCHOR? Even the films weren't that silly. But hey, it might still be decent, who knows.

…Guilty Gear also has a giant doctor with a paper bag over his face who wields a tree-sized scalpel. Spoony's complaint against the boat anchor was that it was “ridiculous.” Guilty Gear IS fun, don't get me wrong, but it's not something you compare a game to when you want to demonstrate said game's normalcy.

Spoony, I get what you're saying about sonic, I really do. But I just can't bring myself to want Sega to kill him. Sonic the Hedgehog was the first game I ever owned and still own, so I just can't do it.

Man Spoony, I have to say I expected Joe to kick your arse. But of course, you always pull through.

nice video, a bit overuse of SWAT 4 gag but fun none the less

Nice review of SW:TOR, gonna be fun playing a MMO for the story, not for the levels and EXP grinding. The noticeable miss is that you say it has a cover system, that´s true but only for one class, the smuggler.

Thanks for doing all this coverage Spoony! You and I have different thoughts about what makes a game good, but I'm thankful you three run around E3 just for us (or rather, for me, because I don't know any of ya)

Also, Sonic 4 is episodic because the Genesis games were.

I'll agree that WoW is getting old – but thankfully it will have an expansion soon that will breath new life into the game. However I'm in the FFXIV alpha – it's really terrible and almost unplayable, sorry. I eagerly wait for the beta, that looked much more revised.

None the less, Old Republic looks like it's gonna be the game that will forever replace WoW for me. That is if the game is what they're making it out to be. I've seen MMORPGs promise a lot of awesome features before and fail on several of them. Hopefully this isn't the case with this one.

I played as an Imperial Agent and was able to employ cover as well.

Really if you where black it disturbs the kinect man I have second thoughts about the whole thing thanks Spoony!

I wonder if any other colours affect it?

He does know that there was no Metroid game on the 64 right?

Spoony I like that shirt. SWTOR does look pretty good but it still kind of looks like they could have done it single player, but I guess then you wouldn't have subscription fees.

Sega PR wants to tell us the old sonic is coming back therefore overemphasizes it by displaying a small bit of content that is way too similar to one level in the genesis version in E3, that's how I'm reading it. Have we seen the rest of the game? Even this one particular episode? New Super Mario Bros is also like the old one and the E3 was full of sequels anyway so I don't see a specific reason to bash this revival attempt. I'd rant about the bad sonic games inbetween but they could either do this one or kill the IP which isn't a real option to begin with.

I like to see you enraged about stuff in which you have a point but this one isn't an obvious mistake or failure or whatever you may want to call it. It's basically using an old formula to resurrect a dying IP that was until now, totally wasted and a sign of future new content done with the already working formula. Not a bad premise.

I believe it was the success of Megaman 9 that made Sega to greenlight Sonic 4. Well that and the abysmal 3D Sonic games of late.

Now the ultimate question is: Will ever Joe get a PS3 after all those years?!

Premiere is just an editing app.

What's up with the export quality when you're talking about Tron?

Regarding Sonic, I could say the same thing about Zelda or Street Fighter. Though to be fair, the only new Sonic games I've played were on the GBA and DS but they were pretty good. I'm hoping now that New Super Mario and now Donkey Kong are coming out we will soon get a new Castlevania in that style. The Castlevania reboot looks ok but I have not been a huge fan of any of the 3D ones. But who knows, maybe this one will surprise me.

About Pirates of the Carabean… Do all RPGs have to have turn based strategy combat? Ok, I have not seen the game so I'll take your word for it for now but I've always associated branching stories, character customisation, interaction and development with RPGs. I don't know, maybe there only very light aspects in this game.

You know, if you and Angry Joe go next year Joe should get a mic when he's filming, so we can hear the banter better. You guys seem to play off one and other really well. ^_^

I did notice that magic was very played down in the Lord of the Rings movies, but I'm not an expert on it or anything.

You can bet that Blizzard will take anything good that is apart of Knights of the Old Republic and just copy it. XD

Anyway, glad you guys have a good time, wish I could have been there with you it looked like a blast. Hotel Hell not withstanding. XD

Very interesting and entertaining videos, Spoony One, good job. I have only one bone to pick with you about this – no Witcher 2! I'm not sure what exactly did the CD-Project guys have there on E3 (and I wouldn't be surprised if they had next to nothing), but all in all you're one of the few major PC gamers out there and I was hoping for at least a mention, a rant, anything. Was the first game really so poorly received over the seas? Because all I have ever heard about it from the whole TGWTG Team was the Angry Joe's 5 seconds video (BTW I wonder since when are tits a BAD thing in gaming…).

Finally someone not afraid to call bullshit when it is due.
Most people only have time/money for one MMO plus maybe a handful of games per year anyway, better get the right ones.

Sin and Punishment is on-rails. Kid Icarus is not.

Know your games before you say it's just a 'reskin.'

actually, spoony was talking about what he saw from XIV which was absolutely jack except for a few people standing around a blue crystal so he had no impression of what the game would be like

and here i though you were a good guy spooni-wan, now you're siding with the empire?! :P

anyway, i shall join Angry joe in his crusade because you are a modern RPG hator! (the o was intentional)

but seriously man, lighten up, you really are a curmudgeonly, old bastard when it comes to modern games XD

Regarding Star Fox, I think you're missing something.
People who are interested to see a remake of Star Fox 64 (or Lylat Wars, as I'm used to call it) are not just interested by it because of nostalgia, rather because it was the last time Star Fox was awesome.
Star Fox Adventures was… an adventure game ala Zelda and the shooting segments were a rather weak attempt to justify the attachment to the Star Fox name.
Star Fox Assault was a game that had less content than Star Fox 64 (less levels, no alternate paths…) and more boring on-foot shooting than the actual space shooter action you're expecting from a Star Fox game.
Star Fox Command… well, I haven't played it but it does seem to stray even farther from the formula.

People don't necessarily want to play Star Fox 64, but they want a good Star Fox game and considering the franchise has been pretty lame in recent years, it doesn't come off as a surprise. Since the more recent games have been disappointing, developers should go back to the good games and see what actually worked on those games to improve the games that will come next.
The same thing can be said about Sonic and Megaman (and, to same extent, Final Fantasy).
The same thing can NOT be said about Mario (and, to some extent, Zelda) because this franchise managed to maintain its quality over the years.

There was a Metroid on N64? That doesn't sound right.

Sega has done some stuff, but they have stopped putting effort into their games. Sega released Iron Man and Iron Man 2, games that could have easily been fun, but weren't because they didn't try. They released Alpha Protocol, which does not come near the expectations of it. They haven't released a good Sonic game in years, Even Virtua Fighter, which for a while was their only series worth playing, changes less from title to title than Street Fighter. Their releasing a slightly updated Sonic 1 in the place of Sonic 4 does not surprise me one bit, as they have not put effort into the games they make in years and thats inexcusable.

Spoony I hate to say this but you have become the annoying whinny main character you hate so much. I understand when you get into the bitching “mode” its hard to stop but this was pretty hard to watch.

Looking back, even counting your game there, in 3 years Sega has released 2 good games, they make millions of dollars and release total flops. That is inexcusable. And Sega is not just remaking one game and adding things from other Sonic games? Well if a Sonic fan has played those games, why bother? I love Zelda, and Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite games of all time, but if they released the new Zelda and it was Ocarina of Time with the bosses updating their moves and a few changes in the dungeon, I would be pissed off. Sure, there's a formula for these games that works, but it doesn't mean you can take a game, update it, and claim that its a new game. And just feeding out the press releases from Sega doesn't overturn the fact that the bosses are the same, even if they slightly update their tactics.

People did ask for a new old-school Sonic though, but, ironically enough, it seems that they couldn't do it; shitty friends, stretched-beyond-belief Sonic, homing attack…I could go on.
This is not the 2D sonic hardcore old timers asked for. Shame, really.

But I do question how you managed to ignore how people have, for many years, been BEGGING Sega for a reboot.
That's quite a feat right there ^_^

Apart from your “bitching mode” of Sonic 4,
it was an interesting video.
The new Pirates of the Caribbean game looks interesting.

I really wonder why do people still have hope for Sonic. It's done.
All that is to come from that dead end series from this point on is fan service remakes, more buggy as hell 3D games with
ridiculous plots that overshadow the gameplay and more bad design decisions.

And some of you will still buy them and…for what? Sonic?

Ain't that the truth

Not sure why you are. Sonic is the John Travolta of the gaming world.

Spoony should have stood in front of the marching North Korean army and see if they all shouted “YOU'RE IN OUR WAY, SIR!” at him in Korean.

If you really want new and unique experiences, you should actually give the Wii a shot. Nowhere else in the history of videogames since its heyday was there such a flood of new ideas and changes and polishes to gameplay as when that console came out. Examples include the WiiSports series, Endless Ocean, Elebits, Boom Blox, Red Steel 2, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Cursed Mountain, de Blob, Fragile Dreams, Little King's Story, Mad World, Zack and Wiki, Mario Galaxy, We Cheer 2… Some innovate more than others, but that, plus what DS brought new to the table, was the start to many new and fresh genre-breaking experiences.

I think part of this 'Spoony Experiment' is that you'll need to define truly what you want in games, personally, because I don't think it's what you keep clamoring for here. I don't think you really want 'new and unique, never-before-seen' experiences. What you seem to be calling for is more immersive, more 'real' D&D experiences in a virtual world. You want to live in those worlds and be the badass ninja/pirate/Jedi/warrior whatever of your dreams. You want Simulation taken to the next limit. Maybe I'm wrong, but what you currently want doesn't seem to me to be what you say you want.

On E3 coverage in general, I realize that being on the show floor is both more enlightening for you in some ways, and less enlightening than, say, watching footage from other sites. I think you got a lot of facts wrong, and while it'd be hard and impossible to fact-check everything, I think you should have allowed yourself some leeway instead of going 'bitchy mode' so quick on everything. I thought it was kind of embarrassing how often Angry Joe had to interrupt. He gained much more respect from me, and you lost some.

But I'm being judgmental, and I apologize, and might be being unfair. For a guy on the floor, you were very entertaining, and it was still great to watch your coverage. Love the “in my way” jokes, and I don't think anyone else would have the balls to yell, “BETRAYAL!” in a public hall like that. I just think it could have been more professional, and you could have been more open-minded.

One last note on Franchise Fatigue. I'm one who was annoyed by Zelda: Twilight Princess's blatant similarities to Ocarina of Time, but for someone who continues to follow Nintendo, I feel like that was the one misstep. Maybe they haven't changed it 'enough', but every iteration has had its own unique take on the franchise – same as Mario games. For Sonic, sometimes you have to take a step backwards, to find what made it great, before you can go forwards once more. I don't think anyone has heard enough details about the new Zelda to say how similar it will be to the previous games. The only things we've heard and seen are new controls which are very different and sound very immersive, and the new graphic stylings which I think look fantastic. Even at E3, we don't see everything, and I'm still game to wait and see.

Mainly because the whole Sonic thing is done to death already. Sega should just move on and leave the Hedgehog alone…

The Star Wars guy always reminds me of Shepherd. I guess we know what lies beyond the Omega 4 relay…

I once again share your concerns with Sonic. It's good that they've finally developed the sense to take Sonic back to what made him Sonic, but I'm still concerned. Of course, this probably means Sonic 4 will sell like hotcakes. I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl for MvC3 though.

Lol @ the sniper rifle. If a little bit of blood and sex had us uptight Americans shaking in our boots, you'd would think that wielding a replica of something man made specifically for killing would raise a few eyebrows, eh?

Spoony did a really great job with the interviews. He was well prepared. Asked the right questions and really paid attention to what the person he was interviewing said. Very professional if you ask me…

Because he doesn't like the look of Sonic 4, he's lost you as a viewer? Are you high? It's called a difference of opinion, nothing to throw a hissy fit over. He's also spot on though, why remake the first game? People wanted a new Sonic game in the old style, not a rehash of what we've already completed numerous times.
And the 3D Sonic games are terrible, unquestionably poorly made and lazy. Just because it's a so-called “kids game” doesn't excuse awful gameplay and bad design.
The old games are classics and can be enjoyed by young and old alike, the new 3D games are insulting even to the audience targeted and there's no excuse for poor games.

I'm sure Spoony will miss such a “dedicated” fan who loses his shit over a slight difference of opinion….pretty pathetic.

What about Metal Gear Rising? C'mon!

Funny how if it's an opinion you disagree with, it's suddenly “whinny” (sic), but all the other times, you didn't speak up because you don't know any better. Huh.

Thanks for the unintentional, hypocritical comedy, good sir.

I think that they should definitely stay at the Clarion again. That Hotel from Hell video was seriously one of the funniest things I have ever watched. “Joe, without missing a beat, TRIES THE T.V.”

Regarding The Old Republic game while the voice acting an the more single player storyline is something new for the MMORPG genre. An certainly an impressive hook to draw people in. I have to question how good of an MMO it is going to be. I mean if your spending most of your time running off doing your Hero quest which looks to be instanced with your NPC companion your not playing an MMO at all. Just a single player game with a monthly fee. I'll probably buy it an play it but if there is no real MMO with real MMO stuff to do like great PvP, fun guild content like dungeons, raids, an all that sort of thing I doubt i'll play it more than a month or two.

As for Sonic 4. I dunno if its a straight remake past the first zone. If it is that would be messed up for sure. But you can't blame Sega for doing this because its what fans keep telling them to do. To just go back to when the series didn't suck an try to recapture the magic. It's basically New Super Sonic Bros.

But yeah aside from that mostly agree with what Spoony says about most of the games. Many of them just fail to impress. Like Prince of Persia: TRON of time.

Dang Spoony, didn't you see all those third party games for the 3DS? Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, and SUPER STREET FIGHTER IV FOR GOD'S SAKE. SUPER STREET FIGHTER IV THAT I CAN TAKE ANYWHERE. JUST HOOK IT UP TO MY VEEEEEEINS.

And then there's the Nintendo stuff: a new Paper Mario game, old school RPG style, with a chain chomp companion! Kid Icarus, which looks awesome! Starfox 64 which, yeah, it's a remake, but they're talking about puttin' new stuff in the remakes so they're not just remakes, and besides, PORTABLE STARFOX 64. And then there's Pilotwings! A new Pilotwings game! I mean COME ON DUDE!

Plus the hardware and graphics look amazing. I mean, shit, I saw the demo for MGS3 on the 3DS, that shit blew me away. Combine that with Epic Mickey and Kirby Epic Yarn and the new Zelda for the Wii, and I don't see how you can be disappointed!

And man, I know you didn't get to see all of the convention, but lemme tell ya, the REAL fitness machine is the Kinect now. They were big on all that jumping around, let me tell you.

Congratulations, you have identified me as someone who doesn't own the worst console since the Jaguar. Your powers of comprehension are duly noted.

I haven't liked Zelda since A Link to the Past (and even that one didn't really wow me, but I at least enjoyed it), so Skyward Sword is utterly irrelevant to me. Same with Mario Galaxy; I don't really care for platformers. And no console controller holds a candle to a mouse; I like FPS games as much as the next guy, but I am not going to kid myself into thinking I'm getting the best experience playing them on consoles versus a PC.

I presume you had a point in there?

Coming from someone who owns a Wii… motion controls are a gimmick. It's nothing new, Nintendo has tried it before with the NES and failed (Remember the Power Glove?). Sure, motion controls are much better now, but considering my favorite game on the Wii has been Muramasa: The Demon Blade… which is a 2d side scroller where you can use your old Gamecube controller… that's just pathetic.

And the impressive sales of any of their new games further proves that traditional gamers are in the minority of the Wii gaming community.

Blayney also makes a good point regarding FPS games. PC has them down as having the best controls possible. The mouse is much easier to control while at the same time being capable of lightning fast reflexes, something both the Wii and Traditional gaming consoles lack. If it's one genre the Wii will never be able to revolutionize, it's the FPS genre.

Admit it, it's a gimmick that happens to be a cash cow. Nintendo doesn't innovate like they boast, they just polish the turd and call it a diamond. It's more of a chore to play any Wii game with motion controls, it's not very fun, and this is coming from someone who is physically active practically every day because of my job.

I do think you gave the 3DS an overly harsh look there, because the line-up so far seems to be one of the best I've ever seen for a launch. True, a number of the games are remakes/ports, but they're all remakes of damn good games, and games you couldn't get on any Nintendo platform before, not to mention that's just the initial games.

Chinese, North Korean, Vietnamese, they're all commies. Now, let's shoot 'em good 'n dead.

i agree about Sonic 4, i'd like Adventure 3, or a non-broken version of Sonic next-gen

The 40k MMO just like WAR now, will be a PvP focused game. Its going to have a serious lack of content and will be a PvP niche game. Not that that is a bad thing. I love WAR and am playing it now. but niche games like that arent something you can really get addicted to.

Yeah, I'm with Spoony on this one, I don't care about the Kinect at all. It's probably gonna cost 150 bucks, plus the games are still gonna be 60 bucks each.

Could you imagine paying 60 bucks for Wii Sports? Well you might have to do that for Kinect Sports.

HOO boo. There will be blood in the water, and the sharks will come. By sharks I mean rabid Sonic fans. I'm curious to see what Spoony thinks about Megaman 9&10 after that epic rage.

Did he like the game? I'm just wondering what he thinks because Sega is essentially doing with Sonic 4 what Capcom did with Megaman 9 and 10 (only they're keeping new-gen graphics).

I don't entirely agree with your Sonic 4 rant. You seem incredibly pissed that it's a remake of a 10 year old game, but if you've noticed, that's exactly what every series is doing. Mario with New Super Mario Bros, Megaman with Megaman 9 and 10, Bionic Commando with Bionic Commando Rearmed etc… I'm curious what you thought of those. Society seems to be in a general nostalgic mood (INUNDATED with remakes of movies, shows and games lately), thus why Sonic 4 was created and I'd say it is far better then making another shitty 3D one. The point that really kind of made me say “wait, what???” was that you say the series is unevolving. Yet, I'd say the fact that they keep TRYING to evolve it and make it what it cannot be, is exactly why it's failing. My personal opinion is that the series needs to die once and for all, then they should make a Sonic 4 ten or more years down the road, when the general public (I.e. non-rabid Sonic fans) might miss the series. But I can say that for many franchises (starting to look over to you Zelda).

Thanks for the Old Republic facts. It really, really sounds like an MMORPG I might actually want to play. Maybe even be willing to pay a monthly subscription (that would be an amazing feat). My friend once tried to get me into WoW but I just didn't like it. I never felt connected to the world, just another random guy collecting fur and shit. The only part I liked was raids, working with a random team of strangers every raid was pretty interesting, but it got old eventually. The only MMO I've ever been hooked on was Ragnarok Online, but that was back in my anime obsessed days. I absolutely LOVE, L-O-V-E LOVE branching storylines and moral choices (the grayer the better though). It's why I'm quickly becoming a massive fan of BioWare. Damn their games are great.

I wouldn't say so much this is game companies riding a wave of nostalgia so much as it is game companies intentionally kicking up waves of forced nostalgia and attempting to ride them. Admittedly, a few nostalgic properties have been successful in the past few years and much like the comic book movie craze, everyone and their horse is trying to “recreate the magic” with their IP.

Great coverage Spoony. Glad to hear you and Joe are excited with most games I'm eagerly anticipating. You've also got me interested in Shogun 2: Total War. Though I'm amazed with the complainers these videos are bringing out. It raises the question which is worse: Whiny Sonic fans or whiny Final Fantasy fans?

Haha metroid wasnt on the n64. Spoony's endless trail of unflawless acuracy has ended. WAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I kid these videos are hilarious with the sonic 4 rant.

@NostalgiaOCD What you have said is entirely wrong. First all those series have had several improvements and only going back to the original formula not the game and graphic improvements. The least changed out of the ones you listed is New super mario bros but it had some nice changes and not a complete copy.

Also its really not a ten year death because anyone playing a DS has found some good and may I say great sonic games that stick true to the old formula. As for the zelda comment though I don't like the look of the new Zelda and almost see it turning to using ratchet and clank devices. Its still attempted to change and has been using the wii controls which is a huge change itself. Then adding the fact that's not including the GBA and DS Zelda which give a twist to the classic zelda each time you play them.

Finally great review spoony.

I agree. The reason the game has taken so long is mainly because they have been working extremely hard on proving people wrong on that regard. They wanted enough content in the game to be able to say its not just Kotor with a monthly fee.

If the raid content is anything like the story content, its going to be amazing.

Spoony is AWESOME when it comes to interviews. He comes off as professional and experienced, even though he hasn't done a lot of interviews. After this, I feel that Spoony should definitely do more interviews if he can find opportunities to do so.

I do feel that Spoony was very close minded though about a lot of the new software and hardware. When viewing demos, it's all about the potential of the product. Nothing is really done at E3 and it's pretty much all Alpha builds. Unfortunately Spoony came off as very cynical as opposed to honest. Kinect/Natal is a really perfect example of this, as he talks about it “not working.” He tried one game and basically dismissed it, mostly because it's not only new, but it's different.

I hope for future events that Spoony goes to, he'll keep a more open mind much like how Angry Joe had.

YOUR IN MY SPOT SIRE!

chuldren with spniper rifles? that was disturbing what were they thinking?

Huh, well I guess that means I don't have to choose between SWTOR and the 40k mmo! Although that can probably get pretty expensive…

Wow wasnt a niche game. nor was it ever. And im sorry blind haters of wow and wow players are usually more retarded than the vast majority of WoW players.

Perhaps, then again these are simply his views and shouldn't effect your own. If they truly are entertaining and enjoyable sounds like Spoony will be missing out and he only has himself to blame. Like with any critic you have to take their opinion with a grain of salt.

Exactly if I wanted unbiased bullshit I'd go to the ign site. Maybe some of yas would feel better there. I already said I wish the motion fad would go away. Spoony's coverage was entertaining, engaging and hilarious. Plus he didn't hate on every game there. Some of these comments here seem like they were personally offended how Spoony/Noah felt about a certain game.

I don't know if you heard but the 3DS has some impressive launch titles. It's got Resident Evil Revelations which looks a non-main series but still story linking game like Code Veronica. I seriously thought it was on the XBox. There will be Super Street Fighter 4. Metal Gear Solid 2. A game made by Atlus which I am crossing my fingers will be Persona 5 because Persona 4 is my all-time favorite game. Paper Mario 4. There were like 20 developers that are quite famous. This neat because when it comes to third party developers for Nintendo, Nintendo usually has none.

Just wanted to drop and say thank you for sharing your E3 experience, Spoony. I've watched all your videos here and not too surprisingly, I enjoyed them way more than the abomination I witnessed: the G4 E3 coverage on TV…yuck. Should've found other means for E3 coverage at the time. Oh well, just rest up and recuperate…looking forward to part 3 of your FFX review!

Wow the quality of your camera really suffers during some parts spoony O_o

I hope one day they will just make a straight up sequel to RE4 and leave the guy with the forearm the size of his head to run about the confusing plot. Leon needs a comeback!

But I digress. MGS2 will not be on it, but MGS3 will be. I think Atlus has confirmed like three franchises, one of which being Persona.

You've managed to get me a little excited for Old Republic. Good job! And I LOVED the Sonic rant. I'm of the mind that many people's issues with Sonic 4 lie in the older Sonic games never being all that great originally. Think about it, if Sonic 1 was enjoyable, and Sonic 4 seems like nothing more than an HD clone of Sonic 1, then Sonic 4 should still seem a little good, right?

Wrong, at least from the many hands-on impressions I've read on Sonic 4. And I think the episodic approach shows even Sonic Team isn't confident in the old-school design anymore.

1) I've been hearing good things about it, and what I have actually seen pleases me.

2) Whether the original sonic games were great or not is your opinion. Not everyone is going to share that opinion. Sonic 4 was made for people that liked the original games, so it would stand to reason that if you did not like them you wont like this. Not liking it is completely fine. But for Spoony to bash them for doing what the fans have been begging for is just plain dumb.

3) Despite how happy I am with what they are trying to do with the game, I am very worried about it. Sonic Team has had a dismal track record so far, and the whole episodic content thing is completely inappropriate for a classic sonic game. Its kind of like how its completely inappropriate for Blizzard to release Starcraft 2 as separate games, yet they are apparently doing so.

See, he probably didn't complain “about MvC3 being MvC2 with Deadpool and 3D graphics” because MvC2 is still fun to him now and probably will be several years from now. Sonic, though. . .Franchises are indeed the life-blood of companies, however over two decades Sega has not seemed to understand how to make the idea of Sonic fun and engaging. And one of the company's answers now is to go back to a formula which according many people who have played Sonic 4 just doesn't work well.

Well, they aren't really realizing it; they're just calling Sonic 4 bad while claiming the original games are still great. But if Sonic 4 is really sooooo much like Sonic 1, what does that say about the original games?

“Get this through your head: Sequels are supposed to be like the original. They are SUPPOSED to be the same game with new areas,items,enemies,story,graphical and system improvements, and so on. If you want a different game, then play a different game.”

It's that kind of thinking that made the “market pie” of gamers so small in the first place. Also, “new areas,items,enemies,story,graphical and system improvements” isn't what Sonic 4 has going for it, you know.

“People who liked the old Sonic games have been begging Sega for exactly what Sonic 4 is, and have been begging for like a decade. We are happy with what they are showing. If it was something completely different than the old games we would have been pissed off.”

It's funny how you forgot to mention the games where Spoony congratulated the developers for keeping core elements while also introducing innovations that make it a sequel, not a mission pack. It must be all the red you were seeing as soon as Spoony stated the oh-so-obvious about Sonic 4, but you're a fanboy like that.

“Its funny, because you were raging over Xcom, but you know what? Xcom is the fault of people like you. Xcom is exactly what you asked for, with how you usually describe sequels. Take a good long look at it. This is what you wanted.”

Yeah, and the first person stagnation, fighting game stagnation, shooter game stagnation and so on from time immemorial are the fault of people like you who lack the perspective to understand that even though nobody's really inventing the wheel here, game innovation to make it more fun goes a long way. Sonic 4 represents Sega raising its hands up and saying, “Fuck this, play the original Genesis game again with enhanced graphics. Capcom can get away with it, why not us?”

“Its actually so annoying that I had to register an account just to call BS on it. Its sad too, because other than your retarded stance on sequels, you're probably my favorite reviewer. Heck, I wouldn't be putting the effort into calling you out on this if I didn't care.”

Nah, you're just a blind, jaded Sonic 4 fan that has forgotten that chart about expectations and disappointments that happens whenever Sega creates Sonic sequels. The Nostalgia Critic had to deal with Sonic cartoon fans the very same way in his review of that retarded series (mostly YouTube poop makers). What is it with Sonic fans and criticism, anyway?

This. People have a tenancy to see something that plays relatively the same and cry foul. And its such a bizarre expectation too, because the same exact people bitch when something is changed too much. Like Spoony with xcom, like I mentioned earlier.

Thats one reason I like the Zelda series so much. Even though its gone through some hefty changes, its still more or less the same game it has always been. Spoony would probably say thats a bad thing, but really think about it. Why should it change too much? If I am in the mood for Zelda, I want to play Zelda. If I am in the mood for something else, I will play something else. I'd rather them not fuck up Zelda to match whatever I happen to be in the mood for.

Basically, if you want massive changes out of a series, then you probably don't want to play that series in the first place, and just want something else. So thats where you should be looking: Somewhere else.

You know whats really funny? Kinda not even really a sonic fan. I played and enjoyed the games when I was younger, and got annoyed at pretty much every game released after Sonic and Knuckles. I replay the genesis games once like every 5 years or so, maybe. But its kind of hard to play through a game and keep interest without new levels and bosses and such. Also, I am really really not in the mood for a quoting “war” or anything, but I guess you at least deserve a response. Here it goes:

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It's that kind of thinking that made the "market pie" of gamers so small in the first place. Also, "new areas,items,enemies,story,graphical and system improvements" isn't what Sonic 4 has going for it, you know.
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Theres nothing wrong with innovation. I see new games that come along that do wonderful new things. And that is great. But when I want to play a sonic/zelda/mario/doom/whatever the hell game, I want to play that game. Not a completely different game with the same characters. By changing a series you are basically telling the people that liked your original game that “too bad, were not making anything like this anymore, and no one else is either”

Still, I wont deny your point. Just try to remember that these things aren't mutually exclusive.

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It's funny how you forgot to mention the games where Spoony congratulated the developers for keeping core elements while also introducing innovations that make it a sequel, not a mission pack. It must be all the red you were seeing as soon as Spoony stated the oh-so-obvious about Sonic 4, but you're a fanboy like that.
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Actually, I didn't forgot. Those just weren't really relevant to the conversation. Sonic isn't an incredibly complex game that has a lot of places to stick new features. If anything, new features can actually detract from the experience. Sonic runs, jumps, and now apparently has a homing attack. Thats kind of all you really need.

I'll go ahead and let your witty insult slide, since I bet you felt pretty clever when you wrote it. Also, you might want to refrain from automatically assuming things about people so that you don't have to take their point of view into account.

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Yeah, and the first person stagnation, fighting game stagnation, shooter game stagnation and so on from time immemorial are the fault of people like you who lack the perspective to understand that even though nobody's really inventing the wheel here, game innovation to make it more fun goes a long way. Sonic 4 represents Sega raising its hands up and saying, "Fuck this, play the original Genesis game again with enhanced graphics. Capcom can get away with it, why not us?"
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This kinda falls under what I said above. When I play a sonic/mario/whatever game, I expect that experience. Its like if I went and bought some apple juice and found that it had cranberries mixed into it. Sure, that might be “innovation”, and it might even be good. But thats not really what I asked for. Of course, that shouldn't stop people from going out and making cranberry-apple juice, but it would be nice to be able to buy just plain apple juice. Do you see what I am saying here?

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Nah, you're just a blind, jaded Sonic 4 fan that has forgotten that chart about expectations and disappointments that happens whenever Sega creates Sonic sequels. The Nostalgia Critic had to deal with Sonic cartoon fans the very same way in his review of that retarded series (mostly YouTube poop makers). What is it with Sonic fans and criticism, anyway?
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Do you really have to resort to trying to “humiliate” someone online to prove your point? I mean seriously, if you have a good point it should stand on it's own instead of having to associate what I said with a particular annoying demographic of people in order to dilute the meaning.

Seriously, not even really a sonic fan in the first place. In fact, I almost wrote a similar post about spoony's reactions to the new fallout. Its the attitude I dislike, the game it is happening with is mostly irrelevant. I've just gotten so sick of seeing game series I like changed so much that they aren't even fun anymore.

If you want to continue discussing this in a more civil manner, I'm all for it. But please do leave your preconceptions about “sonic fans” at the door. Kay?

I think it was announced as a sort of Metal Gear Solid 2.5 like Peace Walker. In my opinion I liked Resident Evil 5 more because it was more fun to play with someone. It was an absolute blast. Of course it wasn't scary like past titles. I thought the Lost in Nightmares DLC was scary and fun. Only because I had no ammo. Horror seems to come from the inability to fight back these days. I followed the Resident Evil plotline very deeply. It was interesting. Yes, I read the Archives book. With Resident Evil 4, my only question was, what happened to Spencer's dreamof the T-Virus. It felt like they completeely forgot the plot of the predecsors. RE5 only confirmed that Capcom no longer cared about the T-Virus. But even more upsetting is that now we might never know what happened to Hunk and his sample of the G-Virus. At least with Silent Hill they don't abandon the focus. Only it never makes sence. With Resident Evil they had a nice plot going. From what I saw of the Revelations trailer with Hunk and the zombie it seems Capcom realizes they haven't wrapped up the original plot and are tieing it up now. That's great. Two questions though.
1.Is Steve in that chair.
2.Jill is a brunette again which means a prequal but than wjhy is she out too kill Chris? He saved your god darn life in RE1.

“You know whats really funny? Kinda not even really a sonic fan. I played and enjoyed the games when I was younger, and got annoyed at pretty much every game released after Sonic and Knuckles. I replay the genesis games once like every 5 years or so, maybe. But its kind of hard to play through a game and keep interest without new levels and bosses and such. Also, I am really really not in the mood for a quoting “war” or anything, but I guess you at least deserve a response. Here it goes:”

Ah, so you do like Genesis games and replay it from time to time. Obviously, you're one of the people Sega is catering to (as well as AVGN, since he had about the same sentiments when he saw Sonic in his dismal, halfhearted E3 videos with Screwattack). Not everyone will like that, though, and they don't need an attitude adjustment just because you don't agree with them.

“Do you really have to resort to trying to “humiliate” someone online to prove your point? I mean seriously, if you have a good point it should stand on it's own instead of having to associate what I said with a particular annoying demographic of people in order to dilute the meaning.”

“Humiliate”? Man, did you see the replies below you from Sonic fans? It's quite easy to put you in the same box as “Just another Sonic/Final Fantasy VII/Final Fantasy X” fan. Of course, since you're some sort of retro/sega fanboy that can't take honest impressions and criticisms, we're back to square one on that.

“Seriously, not even really a sonic fan in the first place. In fact, I almost wrote a similar post about spoony's reactions to the new fallout. Its the attitude I dislike, the game it is happening with is mostly irrelevant. I've just gotten so sick of seeing game series I like changed so much that they aren't even fun anymore.”

So let me get this straight… Spoony has shown consistency in his preferences and attitude towards games. I don't always agree with him, but he's very consistent with what he believes is a good game or not. His little rant on Sonic wasn't something that came out of the blue, it's pretty consistent with his pet peeves. You mentioning he should get over his irritation over remakes and sequels is mind-boggling to me because, what, is this the first time you've watched his videos? Of course he'll rant on what happened to Sonic 4, like the way he has millions of times before in similar circumstances. Why didn't you call him out before then, when you allegedly watched them?

Oh, that's right. They weren't relevant to your interests. Now that he struck home with your retrofaggotry (for lack of a better term), then you wail on him like “Meg Ryan” blaming things on Aeon. Yeah, no bias there.

“Is that some sort of code for “I did not bother to read the post” ?”

Once you read the butthurt responses of all the Sonic fans on this one E3 video, it kind of blurs together and people tend to skim. You can't really blame them for that.

Old republic should be a riot. I remember when I heard voice acting for quest dialogue on ever-quest 2, that amazed me, although the cheesy accents were irritating.
Old-Republic hopefully will set a standard for most rpg's. As lets face it, no-one reads quest dialogue unless it's Baldurs Gate or Mass Effect.

There is sonic colors that is coming out to the Wii and DS and the Wii version looks like fun and probably better then sonic 4.
Only the first level on Sonic 4 is a remake of the original everything else is different.

Shame that tron is not an rpg platformer. That would have been better and fit when it comes to being among civilian npc's.

Final fantasy 8 didn't have boat anchors as weapons unless one of the boss human's do?

I have to call you out on the n64 remake thing. Only two games shown were N64 remakes and one ps2 remake. All the others were new games and none of them have been confirmed for release at the 3DS's launch. resident evil, metal gear solid 3, kingdom hearts, dead or alive 3d, samurai warriors 3d, etc. So don't judge until you know. As for new Nintendo games, there is a Mario kart, Animal crossing, paper Mario, pilot wings resort, steel diver, Kid Icarus: uprising, Nintendo dogs, and cats.

The old republic is not going to change how much I enjoy old rpg's just because it has text. I read the text even if there is voice acting. To me, if you hate reading text then you need to go back to school and learn to appreciate literature because that is what text is in rpg's.

I can only think of three Anchor users off the top of my head. The dude from FF8, who was so forgettable that I don't even remember his name. Other than that all that comes to mind is May from Guilty Gear, and Captain Murasa “Motherfucking” Minamitsu from Touhou. Both of whom are actually pretty awesome.

Must know thoughts about APB!!!!

You know to all those who you complain about Spoony being “to harsh” on the games. You know what he isn't being to harsh he is just being honest. He is giving HIS HONEST opinion. I think one reason Spoony and other reviewers like him get so much hate is because people have forgotten these are user reviews. These reviews are coming from the mouths of the real people that have actually played the game. The problem is big companies have tricked us into thinking they are the voice of the people. IGN, Gamespot, Game Trailers, and G4 are all big companies and review the game according to who gives them the biggest paycheck instead of wether or not the game is really good. Think about if you guys had been there and played Tron (for instance) you most likely would have thought and said the same thing Spoony did (at least that is what I thought when I saw the game it is Prince of Persia in computer instead of desert). And as far as Sonic goes you guys have to remember that very little of the game was originally shown and it did look like it was going to be a completely new 2D Sonic game. To find out that is just a remake (not a new Sonic game with a different story and new locals) it is a shot for shot remake of the original. I think that is mainly what Spoony was saying. Basically he was saying that a shot for shot remake of the game was pointless. I love Sonic and to find out that it is just a remake is very disappointing. And also if they are remaking a Sonic game why remake Sonic and not Sonic 2 or Sonic 3? Sonic 2 and 3 had Super Sonic and Casino Night Zone and Polar Ice Cap zone (respectively). What did Sonic 1 have? Oh yeah Labyrinth Zone *shudders*. Seriously guys ease up on Sponny he is giving a honest un biased review of the games.

There is some voice acting for quests in World Of Warcraft, mostly the more important quests. The problem is, there are so damn many quests there it would take ages to voice them all (and to expand the voice acting pool). I wouldn't object to less quests with a broader scope, but smaller chunks of objectives have their place too.
You can't have everything at once.

Series are always a touchy subject (and you can't please everyone). The Zelda series hasn't really changed much in it's basic concept. You go through dungeons, acquire new items along the way, use them to defeat the bosses, and so on. But many of the games bring changes in subtle ways. Spirit Tracks is an excellent example. It even plays with your expectations at some points, and getting to the dungeons is almost more effort than beating them.

Not to mention the mix of old favorites and new creative items (or twists on old ones. Dual Hookshot? Sign me up!).

If you have an entirely new concept of the core gameplay, make it a different franchise (see Metroid).

17:04 Children with sniper rfles, AGAIN. I mean REALLY.

Yes your right, also the technical aspect of the extra audio that has to be downloaded or streamed server side.
Reminds me of a weird thing I saw once. Tried that star-trek on-line and not a single voice had voice acting except this one emergency medical hologram half way through the tutorial. Seemed really out of place.
Warcraft and other mmo's do have a good go-between with the sound bites that play when you talk to an npc. Just saying a simple line can make the difference.

Spoony's opinion is his own :] No need to get angry about it, people have opposing opinions. Thats a fact of life. Instead take them for what they are; HILARIOUS!

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I'm seeing this a link to this video-log follow-up called “VLog 62510 ES Followup” once the video ended, but there isn't any link on the home-/E3-/Vlog-page. It's a nice 60+ minutes long addition to footage of the first 3 days.
Assuming this is a bug/error, now you know.

By the way, love to see you over at E3 Spoony. :)

Just watched your final coverage at E3. Pretty nice (^^)

Although I have to disagree about what your thoughts about Sonic 4. Many fans of the series actually love it because its back to basics, back to the old style that what made Sonic really famous unlike those recent Sonic games trying to adapt it in 3D but it seems a failure… BUT its totally okay. I'm not angry or anything on your thoughts about Sonic. Its okay, its your opinion and I respect it. ;)

More than that, I greatly appreciate your efforts you'd done at E3. Two thumbs up for you guys! Keep it up!

Just keep on doing what you like and thank you very much!

Once again, my only disapointment with NINTENDO, was that apparently there is and there will not be one single decent RPG for the fucking Wii console. This console is disaster, I mean, what the real, was this solo designed to cansual players, what the fuck, I don't wanna play fucking fitness and shit like that on my fucking console, god bless that at least this new games seems to be more decent games with more solid gameplays. Thanks God they are getting back to the classics, AND the basics, please no more werewolf SHIT on zelda, no more of this inovation ass. Just do what you know to do well. Please stick this way.

Well i can see you point but don't forget that this is an MMO about Star Wars. I mean we all know how 'good' Galaxies was right? But it still got hold of me for far longer than i want to confess. The thing is that a game like this is up there with the Holy Grail for a Star Wars fan and even casual gamers who like Star Wars will want a piece of this one, the problem is that if they go with a crisis like super realistic (Shogun II like) graphic then the casual gamers will either have to give up on playing this or upgrade their hardware (not to mention lot more expensive game servers).

Though I'm sure this graphic tough on the VGA too, it still is something that you can dumb down for lower configuration and everyone who wants will get to play the game. (Which is goal of any MMO.)

+I kinda like these graphics the way they are, it brings our characteristics more.

Hey Spoony. Just watched your video of your overall impression of E3. I'd like to say that you're not alone in your disappointment with Sonic 4. Yes, it's good that they returned to their roots and gone back to basics, going back to when Sonic was in fact decent. However, it's horrible that they even HAD to do that in the first place. I constantly hear how Sonic Unleashed could have been the one single title to have done 3D Sonic right, if not for the stupid Were-hog levels and that you had to collect objects to make progress through the game.

Second, the issue with the new Zelda game is also understandable, and I can relate to this. The one Zelda game that I can respect is Majora's Mask, since it did make an attempt to continue the plot after Ocarina of Time, and yes, I was happy that I was playing a Zelda game without Zelda and Ganon. More of the same =/= good. Yes, they're adding a bunch of new tools and the fact that you can now “fully” control Link's sword, but so far, it still looks the same.

As for Fallout: New Vegas. that too is also understandable. I'm thinking that this will turn out to be the “Halo:ODST” of Fallout 3. A bunch of downloadable content on a full retail priced disc. The fact that you guys stumped the presenter of the game during E3 seems to prove that.

I can't really comment on your rant with XCOM because I haven't even heard of the first XCOM. But yeah, I'm not all confident in Strategy games going FPS on me either. I've played Command & Conquer: Renegade for crying out loud (god such a waste of a game)! Also, look what happened with Blizzard's “Starcraft: Ghost” that was announced several years ago. It didn't even happen.

Anyway, have fun at SGC. Continue to evolve into Spoonicus… or whatever your evolutionary form is, and become the great critic that you are destined to be!

idk about anyone here but i have one burning question i NEED answered and im hoping to GOD that TOR will do so…….What happened to Revan, the Exile and all of their companions……i know its kinda implied that Satele Shan is descended of Revan and Bastilia. but i want that tie off of knowing the exact fates of everyone

i am a sonic fan but i have to agree 06 sucked 1/5,unleash was ok a 3/5 and black knight with secret rings was bad aka a 2/5 and it does look the same i played back in the day but i hope it has new stuff in it

You an Joe playing Marvel vs Capcom 3 was hilarious.