The brothers reunite for their take on Uwe Boll’s “Rampage” and M Night Shyamalan’s “Last Airbender.”
spoony, all seasons are available for streaming on net flix if you have it
Sure wish these new BlipTV ads were mutable.
I was one of the people that watched Avatar: The Last Airbender from the first to the last episode. It was a great show, with witty dilagoue and great action. It got more serious towards the second and third seasons, which worked well for it.
I was looking forward to the movie, but after all of the horrible reviews I'm not seeing it. It's a real shame that it had to go down that way.
its terrible…i swear man, it killed the last airbender for me, everytime i watch that show im reminded of this shit. i only hope the new season they’re doing is just as good.
You gotta watch Uwe Bolls Postal. possibly the only video game movie he couldn't get wrong. Not a great film but has great scene of Uwe making in fun of himself. Including scene of postals creator running out and and yellling “What did you do to my game!”
I thought Rampage would have been about the video game Rampage. That could have been a cool monster movie.
So Rampage was really just the original Die Hard movie, but they replaced the Sheriff of Nottingham with a gamer, and took out Bruce Willis?
Speaking as a fan of the Avatar cartoon, I assure you that the cartoon is vastly superior to the live-action film.
I saw the film long before you, Brad, or Angry Joe reviewed it. It didn't seem so bad at the time, but being the optimist that I am, I think it was more a case of “hoping to like so much that I thought I liked it” than actually liking it.
Nice review Spoony, for someone who never watched the original Anime/Cartoon youtook it pretty good.The movie sounds like a trainwreck, trying to fit 20 episodes of Book 1 in an 1hr and 40min movieis just insane.
Atlhough you admitted on not being much of an Anime fan, you should check outthe series ( which is awesome,probably one of the best of the last 5 years)
(And yes, I consider A:TLA an Anime)
In the show, each of the bending styles are based heavily on different, but real, types of martial arts. From what I understand of the movie, it was just kind of a big mess, with no real form or purpose behind it.
Seriously Spoony, give the show a chance. It's very, very good. I hate that the movie takes something wonderful and puts it forth as something awful. The show is nothing like the move- nothing at all.
Judging from the specific points you dislike about The Last Airbender, I'm guessing you won't care for the series at all.
Kind of sad, though. The idea of channeling the elements through actual martial arts sounds like something I thought you would enjoy, but obviously you don't. (And yes, each form of bending is modeled after a real world martial art. Only Waterbending is based on Tai Chi. And yes, benders performing together in unison yields stronger results, hence the “choreographed” Earthbending.)
Anyone considering watching The Last Airbender should go look up the cartoon instead. I still don't get how the film makers could take a show with so much heart, and just completely rape it. They got rid of everything that made the cartoon charming and special. In the show you cared about every one of those characters, even the ones you didn't particularly like. In the film they were just personality devoid drones spouting exposition. I wasn't expecting much from the adaptation, but I was still massively disappointed.
From the sound of it they tried to remake the first season of Avatar, the cartoon show. That was unnecessary as the first season of Avatar already exists and could never have been retold in such a short time, equitably. It was a mistake to recover old ground: they would have had better luck if they had come up with an original story. Some side mission that fell between seasons or cartoons that wouldn't ruin the cannon but present a new story that allowed the fans of the show to enjoy their favorite characters in an all new adventure.
*arms flail frantically* Dude, Ahnk Morpork? Seriously? God, you're awesome! :D *day has just been well and truly made*
I don't know if it's fair to review this without knowing the actual show. Sure the movie should be able to stand on his own without forcing the audience to watch the entire series and don't get me wrong the movie sucks, but the really big problem of the movie is just that they had to compress like 7 hours of the show into 2 hours of the movie and if you consider that, the movie HAS to suck automatically, because that's just not possible. They didn't just take 10 episodes, they took the whole first season and hey, you can look forward to, to another two movies, since there are two more seasons…yay?…
Spoony, i can just recommend to watch this show, i mean yeah everybody here says that, but it is really extraordinarily good. It starts out slow and the first season isn't that great, except for maybe 5 episodes, but if you can get through that you get really rewarded with two amazing seasons. The synchronisation is incredible(hey Rufio from hook and Mako speak Zuko and his uncle Iroh! ;) ), the story gets more and more interesting, so do the characters, but what really sticks out are the animations, especially at the end. Seriously, you might hate Zuko (the evil fire-bender that always catches the avatar) in the movie, but over the second and third season his character develops out of his emo-role into somebody really interesting.
Just my opinion and a recommendation. Check it out or not, but have fun the next years with the following 2 movies ;)
Spolier Alert for Avatar the Last Airbender: NO Kyoshi warriors from what i Heard from the Director on the Speical they had on the NickToons. I haven't seen the movie yet but Spoony thanks I will wait for the DVD to compare. Kyoshi Warriors a giant plot point in Book 2s ending so Watch the show enjoy a great story.(psst whole season will run you between 70-80 bucks but well wroth it)
no kioshi warriors, no Boomey (Seriously, boomey was fucking awesome! and they left him out?) no jet (or how ever you spell his name)
right there leaving those characters out opens up several plot holes they have to heal in the next movie. if they are stupid enough to make one.
When I first heard they were going to turn the Avatar series into a movie, I browsed the web and found a huge discussion on some message board, about how the entire cast should be asian.That surprised me, because at that time I thought “Well, of course the cast is gonna be asian. Everybody in the show is asian.” Might be the animation style, but that's the impression I got.And what do they do? Make the main characters caucasian. Thanks movie, for reminding me that some people still think an audience can't identify with a character that looks slightly different from them.
It’s so ridiculous. Audiences, aside from complete white-breads (ok, I’m one myself) complete racists (well I’m not this), don’t care about Americanization of movie casts anymore. Just freaking make the characters portrayed by Asian people. People won’t freak out, and they won’t be disappointed. The Avatar: The Last Airbender world is CLEARLY a VERY Asian inspired world, so just go along with that.
Same mistake was made in the Dragonball movie. What the hell.
I agree with watching the 3 Seasons of The Last Airbender. Thats the only thing missing from your review. I want to see it just to compare the two. The only thing I heard was there was no Kyoshi warriors which are big plot point in the season end of Book 2. Really Big plot point. I can't stress that enough. If they was put in then the speical NTOONS was wrong. I hope it was. Watch it compare it and feel bad some guy with a weird name can fuck your dreams.(not mine just dreams in general)
Not that big. There are other ways to give the badguys the same advantage. Also, you could just as easily have introduced the Kyoshi Warriors at the beginning of Season 2. You know, where it wouldn't be a non-sequester.
“you can look forward to, to another two movies, since there are two more seasons…”
Not if this movie tanks like it seems to be tanking.
You don't dramatize a novel or TV show just for fans of that show. Doing a side-story would make no sense, because you don't know who any of these characters are, what their relationships are, etc. That's why you have to start at the beginning.
Well they actually filmed in Greenland, so…
Please Spoony, watch the series. This movie is one of the greatest disservices to source material I've ever seen! I'm sure you've already got hoards of people willing to donate the Avatar box set, so I won't make that offer, but still, the series is not something to be missed.
Also, I hate to say this but in the same way that the Twilight movies are all planned and paid for ahead of time, M. Night is under contract to do ALL THREE BOOKS! The squeals will be happening, there is no doubt about that.
Will definitely need to check out Rampage though. Looks interesting.
Yay, another one with Miles! :D
As an argument to the end of Rampage maybe he will use that money to go on an even larger well rampage in a sequel Boll tries to make. I would not put it above Boll to make a sequel to this movie even if it was not as good as it was.
As always you crack me up,I never heard of Rampage though,maybe because I never watch TV.
From Spoony's description, The Last Airbender sounds like “Exposition, the movie.” Which is bad for multiple reasons.
People who know the plot don't need it. And people who don't know the plot don't want to sit through 2 hours of exposition.
The problem with this movie, oddly enough, is that it tries to be a *faithful* adaptation. It tries to cram all of season 1 into 2 hours.
If you told me that I had to tell the story of each season in 2 hours apiece, I would say that it could be done. But it could *not* be done by following the seasons exactly in lock-step, like this movie tries to do. The correct answer is to basically tell the old story in a new way.
That means cutting out a *lot*. And rewriting a *lot*. As much as you may want the Kyoshi Warriors or the Dai Li or whatever in the movies, you have to find a way to make due without them. As much as you may want whatever pet episodes' plot involved in the movie, you have to make due without them. The plot needs to be boiled down to its bare essentials, so that you can spend every precious second of screen time on that plot and on the various important characters. The most you might be able to do is have shout-outs to certain events.
I agree with you, but I disagree with you on the Kyoshi Warriors. They’re just too important to the story and I personally think they would have made a solid second act.
“M. Night is under contract to do ALL THREE BOOKS!”
He's under contract to be able to do all three seasons. That is, if the studios want to do the next two films, he's the one they have to go to. But if this movie tanks, as it looks like its currently doing, the studios are not going to throw good money after bad. They're simply not going to finance the other two films.
Nobody is watching this show who isn't a fan, honestly. I don't see people going to see a movie called The Last Airbender unless they either know the source material already or unless they are huge fans of the director (which considering his skill at his craft is aging like milk I find that hard to believe).
Case in point, the original X-Men movie worked perfectly fine without hearing the origin of every single character in the story. You could enjoy X-Men movies even if you never picked up the comic books or knew how the Xavier Institute for Gifted Children got started. With very little exposition they establish characters like Professor Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine, and Magneto well enough without dedicating half a movie to it.
They could have easily followed a similar setup for Airbender where they spend ten minutes setting up the characters so that people who have never heard of Avatar can get a taste of the back story and that those who have watched the show religiously don't get bogged down in stuff they already know. Instead they alienated fans by over explaining everything.
The first X-Men movie spent its first 30 minutes desperately trying to make the audience believe in the concept of Mutants in a semi-real world. And saying that they established Cyclops as anything more than a guy who shoots lasers out of his eyes is flat-out wrong. He wasn’t a character in the movie; he was a *prop*.
The main characters of the X-Men movie (Wolverine, Rogue, and Magneto) were *given* origin stories. We’re told how they meet, we see some of their backstory, we get to see how they interact with each other and other people, etc. The other characters (Xavier, Cyclops) are just plot devices.
The reason The Last Airbender had a problem with over-explaining is because they tried to cram too much into it. They tried to take hours of TV and fit it into less than 2 hours.
As for “Nobody is watching this show who isn’t a fan,” that’s BS. Lots of people watch movies like this who don’t know the source material. Spoony, for example, just did so. You don’t make an adaptation *solely* for the fans; you use it to *expand* beyond people who are already fans. The fans are only there to ensure that you make a minimum of X money from the film.
It's not definite that there's going to be another movie, Paramount is going to make the decision within the next few months. And I'm not positive on this but I'm pretty sure studios can terminate contracts if the movie doesn't meet expectations at the box office.
Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko must be weeping.
Good afternoon Spoony and fellow Spooners.
1. Ankh-Morpork? Wow. Casually delivered geek-reference ftw.2. Unrelated to this post, but is Miles the guy Spoony riffed on Dungeons & Dragons (the movie) with…the guy who kept claiming (jokingly) that the movie was communist propaganda?
My boyfriend has been calling this the ” Last Airbreaker ” since before it came out.
Who the hell is “Harko”, Spoony? Did you mean Sokka? ^^
EDIT: whoops, clicked the wrong button to reply xD
It’s what he calls the guy who plays Jasper in Twilight. He got the name from Rifftrax, I believe.
He said “Harpo.” It’s a running gag.
About rampage… Wouldn't it be smarter to let him take the money and then use it to re-buy gear and guns, and then make a sequel where he fucks up and then gets hunted…
On the whole tai'chi and bending thing, this is a perfectly example how ridiculous this stuff looks when translated to real life. I can honestly expect things from a cartoon to look stupid in real life.
As far as the exposition goes, a perfect example of what you get when you try to compress hours worth of story into a short movie. Why do they even try to make cartoons and videogames in to movies anymore? It doesn't work, it has never worked. I wish they would stop trying. Not to mention turning it into live action makes my suspension of disbelief shatter.
Prince of Persia was quite good. Video Game to movies are different than cartoon to live action adaptations. You can already sit down and watch a cartoon, so there’s no point in remaking it live action when a superior form already exists.
The parent knew of Bill Williamson, because as stated before the fast food-scene early on in the film, Billy-boy ordered all this armour-shit through his friend, whose father had apparently bitched about the packages.
Waterbending, as well as the other bending styles, are intentionally based on fighting styles.
“Fighting stylesThe fighting choreography of the show draws from martial arts; the fighting styles and weaponry are based on Chinese martial arts, with each bending art corresponding to a certain real-world style. The creators referred to Ba Gua for Airbending, Hung Gar for Earthbending, Northern Shaolin for Firebending, and Tai Chi for Waterbending. The series employed Sifu Kisu of the Harmonious Fist Chinese Athletic Association as a martial arts consultant.Each fighting style was chosen to represent the element it projected:Tai Chi focuses on alignment, body structure, breath, and visualization. This technique is the foundation of “Waterbending” in the series.Hung Gar was chosen for its firmly rooted stances and powerful strikes to present the solid nature of earth. This martial art is the basis of “Earthbending” in the series.Northern Shaolin Kung Fu uses strong arm and leg movements. This technique is the foundation of “Firebending” in the series.Ba Gua uses dynamic circular movements and quick directional changes. This technique uses centripetal force to generate power, and uses nearly constant circular movement to create angles between the combatants. This martial art is the basis of “Airbending” in the series.The only exception to this is Toph, who can be seen practicing a Chu Gar Southern Praying Mantis style. Its distinguishing movements and unique footwork give her the ability to overcome her blindness and defeat more muscular Masters of Earthbending.” – from Wikipedia.
I know in the cartoon, each of the 4 nations have like a national martial arts style and that style or any variant of it is used to control their respective elements, but if you've seen the show, they do this really fast and it's quick and fast and awesome. In the show, it just sucks. I mean, these were like the slowest fireballs or other shits. Seriously, this is just crap. No one is really acting and the effects are just crap.
M Night just decided to rename some of the character for no fucking reason.
do you think they'll release it on dvd at least for rifftrax?
There is a worst movie then The last airbender. It's callad Valhalla Rising. It's a danish viking film that will come out in the States soon. When i saw ( i live in Sweden) in april it was the worst fucking movie i have seen in my life. It was so bad.
The biggest problem with the movie The Last Airbender is because it pisses off the fans with all the crap they;'ve done to it and then it confuses the hell out of people who havent seen the show.
Commenting as I watch… Act 1's plot was “Aang masters waterbending and saves the Waterbending tribes from the Fire Nation. The Fire Nation wants to rule the world, by crippling the other nations, they've already done this to the Airbenders. They want to destroy Aang so the Avatar can't stop them.” It's not rocket science.
I thought the last airbender was more unintentionally hilarious than the Happening, but who in their right might thought M Night should write this movie?
All the movement sounds like the cartoon, and yes, they have to do the movements to “bend”. I have been watching the series with my 4 year old, who adores it. The cartoon is pretty cool. I guess I will have to go see the Airbender and decide for myself.
Seriously, Jason Issac was supposed to play the Admiral character who had the scroll, but I am just glad that he didnt get the role because he would not even save the character.
I mean, the scene of the asshole admiral pretty much makes fun of Zuko, but the entire crew was not even making a sound because it seemed to cross the line. I mean, there's villain characters and then there's a cartoon character….that's not entertaining
I fear M Night is already working on the next 2 movies and i really hope he loses funding or they get a better director. Seriously, they either do it right or dont do it at all. Avatar The Last Airbender is something that should not be filmed because it is just unfilmable.
What he needs is a better writer.
I've constantly heard people claiming that M. Night is the new Uwe Boll. Well, this review clinches how much that isn't true. Uwe's movies are slowly getting better as Night's are getting worse.
But seriously the fight scenes in the series is VERY VERY fast pace. Imagine martial artists fighting each other in a kung-fu movie, except add water, fire, earth and air effects. This face pace thing. There's several Chinese movies made in the 90s and early 00s with water and fire effects that are better than this. Look like Storm Riders I think the name of it was. The effects in that were so much better
Whenever Miles is on camera, you just know the movie you're reviewing is truly epic in its awfulness.
The Last Airbender might not have been that bad if they continued it from where the cartoon left off.
They coulda just forget about about the whole different skin color races with the cast and hire actual actors
The cartoon is seriously awesome, Spoony. I've got the first season on DVD myself and saw the rest on T.V. The action is really great for a kids show and I'd say it's one of the best shows that ever saw the light of day on nickelodeon.
I hope you watch it and let us know what you think about it in comparison to the movie.
Loved the Vlog. You guys play off each other really well. I especially loved Miles' reactions to your “tai chi.”
A friend of mine tried to get me to see Airbender last weekend, but I knew well enough to say no. I have no problems sitting through a bad movie if a friend wants to see it, but I really didn't want to give Shyamalan money for this atrocity.
Also, I saw an episode of the series this morning on Nicktoons channel. It really wasn't bad, actually kinda funny. And it had a really good fight scene between a crazy princess and her birthmarked brother. In terms of anime, this is about as good as you'll get.
Where you doing laundry in the background?
I aboid this movie since the review of Angry Joe and now you. I am not going to see this it all is like Dragoon Ball Z movie, but i watched online.
From what I have heard, and as this review seems to corroborate, the Last Airbender isn't a movie- it's a badly edited, badly paced clipshow, with all the cool bits taken out and filmed in live action with terrible acting. Oh well, the show is still there, and I can watch the DVDs whenever I like.
Also, for the record, I think the reason people are so strident about ATLA not being labelled as an anime is because calling it an anime implies it was made in Japan or Korea, and then dubbed. Which isn't true.
Uwe is slowly draining the life force and talent from Shayamalan, sort of like the bad guys in Space Jam. This explains the twist-upon-twist in Rampage.
M. Night subscribes to the 'Hahn was right” school of thought.
I'll let myself out.
Ankh-Morpork! Spoony reads Discworld! Awesome!
Also- Bill Williamson?
Are you sure the mother hadn't just got a little too into Red Dead Redemption?
They should've gotten the choreographer from the Storm Riders movie,that's almost the same as bending (Kung-Fu + Elemental attacks),
If they had at least gotten good actors to capture the essenceof the characters, the race wouldn't have mattered.
(Well, it may actually be more of Shyamalan's fault for writing the script, George Lucas had Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson all great actors and had them say some of the worst dialogue ever)
The creators of the cartoons said that they based the movements of each of the types of bending on different kinds of martial arts, so the people who bend in the cartoon are pretty much synchronous, as they are simply doing martial arts stances.
I'm not sure if it translates at all well into the film.
There are plenty of subplots and narrations and lines of dialogue that aren't essential to the main plot of the film that are kept, yet they couldn't put fucking Toph in.
Guess we shouldn't mention some casting has been announce for the next two Last Airbender Movies should We…
I'm sorry but that is not a birthmark that is a scar. I just thought you should know.
I was so looking forward to Avatar but it's clear theres too much wrong to let me stomache it dn this has clinched it, all that tai chi XP also booya for Discworld referancess,
If Spoony does watch the series he should be advised it does start a lil ropey but gets better as each show gets more budget.
Haha your brother is really funny :-D I would love to have captain exposition on SNL. anyways, you should watch avatar, it is one of the few animated series on television that is crafted with such love and care. I guess the colour scheme of every nation is a bit weird, but could be described as fashion or to show your allegiance… or something… anyway watch it! The first few episodes are kind of meh, but the series get better and better. When I first saw it, I thought, well I think i'm a bit too old for this wannabe anime, but it turned out to be pretty good. It was especially fun to watch the making of, in which is explained which martial arts style is used for what bending. An evasive style for Air, an agressive style for Fire etc. Also storywise it is far better than most cartoons, such as Aangs fear failing to defeat the firelord is displayed pretty strong. He isn't the typical naive fearless hero he seems at the beginning of the show, and that is what I like about the series. It allow the characters to grow, and be different people at the end of the show, compared to the beginning. This series gave me a lot of hope for modern cartoons on childrens networks such as nickelodeon, but I haven't seen anything that comes even close to this.
When you shove 15 30 minutes episodes with a pretty expansive plot into 90 minutes of course it'll suck.
I avoided this film because I am a fan of the series and I knew they were going to try this, and also they purposely cast all the races wrong. If you watch the show racially speaking Water benders are eskimo, Fire benders are Japanese, Earth benders are white, Air benders are Chinese monks. It's pretty simple, but they couldn't f'n get it right!
See, I think they could have done a decent three act movie based on the 1st book if they had done some revisions and knew what to keep and what to lose. In fact, I think it should have been fairly easy if M Night hadn’t completely ballsed it up. Sure, people would still have complained, but at least the movie would have worked on its most basic level.
They miss pronounce half the names!!!!!!!! HOW CAN THEY DO THAT?!?!?! It's ****ing Aang not Uung or OongThe characters were horrible.They had none of the humor.The fire benders and comet was wrong.All the bending and fighting was stupidIt was rushed, and pure exposition.EXT EXT EXT EXT nothing is good about this movie.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;_;
The cartoon is indeed better than the movie (EONS better). I would like to hear your comments about the show Spoony, good or bad. Awesome VLog as usual and good to see you two back giving your opinions on such movies as these.
I don't know why they stretched out the “tai-chi” routines so much in the movie either. It doesn't take nowhere near as long in the cartoon.
Is there a… *drum roll* Gender Bender?
Oh, and you can't siege Ankh-Morpork, invaders are welcomed and robbed. ;)
**** Love the Disc World Reference ****
Wasn't it that the airbender culture was inspired by Tibetan buddhist culture and the Earth Kingdom is meant to loosely reflect China (it's large and has many cultures within it)?
Seriously. The script was the worst part of this movie.
Yes, on Futurama ;)
If you check out just one episode of cartoon I suggest “The Blind bandit” mostly because of “the Bolder”
Sad part is, M. Night has another movie coming out this winter. Its about the devil, trapped inside an elevator with a bunch of people. A ninety minute movie set in an elevator. Yikes.
The comedy in this movie is really out of place and dark, but German audiences really like this kind of comedy. Perhaps this is why it seems out of place in the US.
Really really recommend the cartoon. The action is amazing, the comedy is GREAT, and the story is really really good. It is surprisingly smart and fluid for a cartoon with great artwork The budget for the show must have been huge
BILL WILLIAMSON !KHAAAAAAN !ZEUUUUUUUUS !SYMBOLISM !
I liked the movie. And you can hate me all you want but I really enjoyed it. Look on the bright side, no dutch angles, and it wasn't Dragon Ball: Evolution!
Avatar the cartoon actually holds the honor of being the best cartoon I've ever seen. And I first saw it a bit over a year ago. That means, even wearing all the nostalgia goggles in the world, I can not remember any cartoon I saw as a child that I enjoyed more than I did enjoy Avatar. I watched the whole of 55 episodes + 1½ hour finale in like two days, and a few weeks later watched them all again, cause it was that good. I didn't see the movie, I never even wanted to. I don't want to break the magic the cartoon provided my easily amusable brain. Watch the cartoon. Don't watch it as a critic, watch it as a manchild.
God, this is one time I wish I listened to the early reviews. I mean, at least The Happening was defensible. You could actually defend it or at least find something to enjoy about it. There was nothing in The Last Airbender which I found defensible. And it really confuses me how he could fuck this up so badly.
I think the Earth Kingdom is supposed to be sort of Feudal China with small areas representing places like Korea (that village with Song in it), while the Fire Nation is Imperial China. Kyoshi Island is Japan.
The Last Airbender looked pretty bad anyway, but I didn't think it would be as terrible as everyone has been saying. It sounds like quite the trainwreck.
Also, nice RedLetterMedia reference near the end.
Spoony, please, realize that the cartoon is so much more better than this crap movie. Really. The first Book in the cartoon is kind of lame, but likable – but the second book is so awesome, even for adults.
Avatar The Last Airbender is scoring worse on Rotten Tomatoes than Dragon Ball Evolution. Avatar (8%), Dragon Ball (13%)
Still, it is higher than Battlefield earth (3%)
I'm surprised the movie did so badly given that it had something solid to base it on.
Still, this is what happens. I heard today that they were remaking “Let The Right One In” (possibly old news but hey), why does it need to be remade? It's good enough. It's going to be another Rec/Quarantine. An exact copy!
Earth nation is white? Oh man, how did I not see that with Earth nation characters named Haru and Toph Bei-fong!
You've seen every anime ever? Awesome!
I just ignored the racial part. The name pronounciation was a bigger problem then that.
The show doesn't really give a race fro each nation. What little there was was varied depending what village or area it was and mostly could be seen in the architecture. (Some waterbenders are like Eskimos, other seem Cajun)
If you notice in the show the eye colors matched the nation:Fire – GoldAir – GreyWater – BlueEarth – Brown
okay, you were actually right. It IS an anime. Just not a Japanese one. It was written and produced in the states. I knew from the beginning that this movie would blow and it sucks that you had to be introduced to such a good series this way.
The cartoon is worth checking out. I’m not saying every moment is pure gold, the show was written to be kids show on nickelodeon after all. But most of the time it takes itself pretty seriously, so it stays enjoyable for older viewers.
Since you brought it up, I’ll say that the episode “The Blue Spirit” is particularly notable for being an example of how much better the show was.
By the way, I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the guy from the Daily Show.
The race thing was less stupid in the cartoon. The Fire Nation was Japanese, the Earth Kingdom was Chinese, the Air Nomads were Tibetan, and the Water Tribes were Inuit. The movie changed it so we can see white people beat up some brown people.
Got to wonder why a movie like this had to be made when something of far superior quality already existed. It's not like a comic or video game.
They should have just made a Book 4: Book of Air Animated movie.Or if they had to have something live action, make it on the war when the comet first arrived.
Keep the vlogs coming, would be nice if you could bitch about wrestling once in a while too.
M. Night Shyamalan is Indian though so it's hard to cry racism against a guy who made his race the bad guys.
Haven't see the review yet but please tell me you at least watched part of book 1 water before you saw this shit pile of a movie titled The last airbender. Please we need you to be the voice of justice to the series. The cartoon is wondefrul and everyone else on TGWTG didn't bother to see the greatest western made action cartoon in recent history if ever made.
Oh hell yeah, you are SO right! Spoony HAS GOT TO see “The Blind Bandit” episode! Lemme check… it's episode 26 (or “Chapter 6 of Book Earth” aka the sixth ep of the second season)
Ah I just thought of one good thing about the movie: they didn’t get a chance to destroy Toph’s character!
The anger over the race is over blown. It's not like the cartoon took place on earth. Besides, of everything that's wrong with the movie, arguing over what race each nation is nitpicking when the big flaws are so glaring.
This kind of conversation should only happen if the movie was great, and it's NOT.
My jaw dropped to my fucking knees when you said you liked an Uwe Boll movie.
You can't say a person can't be racist against their own race. Otherwise white guilt wouldn't exist.
Except I don't really get from the Cartoon that the Fire Nation is evil. You really could make the argument that the Earth Nation is as bad or worse.
Anyways nitpicking racial casting seems stupid in a movie with far worse flaws. (That includes Dragon Ball Evolution)
The Earth Kingdom didn’t have a crazy Dragon Lady use lightning to almost murder the Avatar. Just say’n’.
Azula is awesome! It’s great to have a threatening, powerful, cleaver, intelligent, and HOT villain. You don’t usually get all of those. And at least she was taking on what you could call a reasonable military target. Jet on the other hand… And then there’s the Water Bender Misogyny and Blood bending.
I’d much rather live in any fire nation village then be subjected to Ba Sing Se (AKA Ankh-Morpork).
I'm with you on that one. The name-pronunciation thing was worse, but I can't find that annoying any more, because it means something important.
It means Hahn was right.
Hahaha when you said “browns and beige” I freaked because I was just wondering if you liked redlettermedia!
way to bend some air at the beginning of the review haha. i thought the last airbender was a bad movie but i actually liked it. i know thats a contradictory statement, but the acting and writing was so bad that it made me lol at least 20 times in the theatre. oh and the special effects were kinda cool too!
It sounds like the version of Rampage your brother wants is Elephant. Kind of the same premise.
YESSSSSSSSSS Please watch the cartoon and make a video about them. Do each book redem the crew of TGWTG
I thought the story in rampage was surprisingly really good. The fact that his friends dad screamed the part with that Bill is the real one, I got the impression that had to do with the packages. Also, i think that Bill would run away either way, but maybe that's just me. Burning the money wasn't really “odd” for me in anyway, yes it's a little disappointing that in the end it was “only a heist movie”, but at the same time i thought it was a smart move. He was gonna frame his friend, so he burned the fake money (which btw you saw him make in the beginning) so that no one would look for the money that he still had. I liked how, when he was gonna start with the rampage, how you really could feel how his adrenaline was starting to pump, they really showed how nervous and scared he was, but with time, he got used to it. I didn't like that the camera was shaking 24/7 however, but i guess that has with taste. The bingo scene was kind of funny, but it just felt meaningless to me. I agree that it's maybe to show that there is some “human” in him, or something like that, but i still think it's out of place considering that he a couple of minutes ago killed people without caring about family etc.
I didn't like the ending either, just as you said. But maybe it's because i didn't really understand the meaning of it, perhaps.
Oh well, thanks for the nice review :)
dont listen to him the show is stupid bullcrap also
A few things about Rampage.The father knew his name because earlier in the film it was stated that he was getting upset about Bill having packages delivered to his house.He kept the money to fund another rampage like the first one. He used his explosives and left behind his armor and guns. He needed more money to go thin the herd in another town like he promised to do in his Youtube video.
Yes. Please. Watch the cartoon. Significantly less Tai-Chi, story is spread out how it's supposed to be, etc. You probably won't LOVE it, but it's definitely a likable show, even for you Spoony :D
Seriously do this as this is a huge black eye on the faces of the TGWTG crew. This is the best action cartoon western made in the last 10 year, arguably the best ever. The Action is great, the comedy is wonderful, the story is well done, the main players supporting cast and hell many bit player all have have depth and feeling.
Spoony redeem the TGWTG crew watch and review this show. I suggest you go by book.
Oh and he went thru the process of burning the fake money so that, A) It was something Evan would do. B) So that the authorities weren't looking for the money because they believed it was burned.
Fine review, but I, a loyal fan of your reviews, I AM COLUMBINE STUDENT! As in a just graduated student of columbine high school in Colorado. I am a fine and reasonable person, and while I found your review interesting, I felt most of it ruined by the use of the phrase “Columbine Student” to generally describe that type of severely troubled and dangerous person. All I ask is that you please act with more consideration for the students of a fine Institution who have to deal with a troubling event from the past.
I'll put forth yet another recommendation to watch the cartoon, Spoony. It really is that good. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it totally destroys Samurai Jack when it comes to sheer quality, as great as that was. Now, I do have some issues with Avatar, like how it's really just another story of a “Chosen One” who makes a lot of friends and blah blah blah, but despite that tired cliche, it did a great job. A damned good job. The writing was great, it was often funny, and it never dragged. Ever.
Hmm I am glad I chose to go see Predators instead of the Last Airbender this weekend when I got to pick. Granted Predators wasn't perfect. But at least it was better than the AvP movies. Still there is a lot of parts where they dropped the ball an didn't “get it” IMO. You could probably do a rant about it if you know enough about Predator.
First off, as for the difference between an anime and a cartoon, it's less like the difference between a comic book and a graphic novel, and more like the difference between a manga and a comic book. Anime and Manga are specifically Japanese products. Still, whatever you call it, Avatar: The Last Airbender (the TV series) is really quite good. Yes, it's goofy and weird at times, but it was made by Nickelodeon. What can you expect? It has to appeal to kids, but the creators managed to make it so that adults can enjoy it as well. Yes, there's plenty of 'filler,' and there is some repetition when it comes to explanation and exposition, but again, I point to the primary intended audience. At least, in the series, there's more to it than -just- explaining, and the repetition isn't intrusive. Am I disappointed to hear that the movie did so poorly? Yes. I had hoped that it would do well, but as you well know, wanting something to be good is not enough.
Please never ever doubt the cartoon based on M Night's crap. It's like how Uwe Bull made game-movies… okay the games themselves were at most subpar, but strayed the fuck away from the continuity of them in most. Especially in Alone in the Dark, which was a average to high horror game. The comparison here is, nomatter how bad you can suspect the basis of the movie is, it's probably never (with a few exceptions), ever going to be as dreadful and lackluster as the movie versions that parody the games or shows they orginate and make from if it is already that horrible.Your always going to have two-bit directors trying to remake beloved joys of our childhood into total utter crap. For instance, Michael Bay's entire interpretation of Transformers. No fucking way could those explosions ever amount to the Unicron event or the Optimus Prime death. I will admit these two comparisons are very cliched in themselves, but atleast the cartoon had some decency to not be made in the years that Even Stevens kid was born in. M Night Sham made the most artarded interpretatio I ever saw. The cartoon wasn't so kid-friendly and improperly inspirational to the Earth Nation as said in your review. Fuck no, Aang had to watch has his allies willing enough to stand for what they believed in after being oppressed by the fire nation military for countless years finally fight back only to be captured in the end. Infact, Aang's first encounter in the series with earthbenders leads to a prison with broken warriors that had lost all will to fight before anything else was shown of them. They were ripped away from the families and were treated as dogs ignorant to the fact their natural elements which could adapt to the very heat source empowering the POW camp. It was quite interesting even seeing a cartoon delve into this without making it sound pretentious or just a gimmick that is never followed up upon. With that said Avatar the Last Airbender was genius… it didn't cut useful choices to clott out a cruel, warring era into friendliness and happiness in bare-seconds of the hero's arrival…. oh no my friend…not to sound like anyone else here. But it wasn't boggled down like the cartoons of yesteryear or gimmicks to catch kids in without any real substance. It flowed naturally.
oh….my…god…This movie destroyed me D:
Ok, first up the first Season is 10h long…thats 20 episodes…Why is he trying to get ALL 20 episodes on a totall of 10h in ONE movie on 1.40 min ? A five year old is smarter then that…
Second, the story of Zuko is told in the series so good that everytime they star talking about it you listen, becuse you wanna know what happend to him. And there is one episode where they show you how his father was told to kill him (Zuko) by his father, that would be Zukos grandfather. Anyway, so Zukos mother makes a deal that she will take his punishment insted. So his mother is also a part of the story that is very importand becuse well Roku (The avatar before Aang) Was Zukos great grandfather…so the Avatar and Zuko are, well related becuse all the Avatars are the same person…kinde of xD
and third, the bending in this movie is ass rape, in the series the firebenders don´t need to have a fucking torch next to them, they can make their own fire… And they don´t move like, 2h before something happends, in the series for exampel Katara can fucking make i gigent ice wall wich she glides on as she is frezing her enemies…
and Aang, why did they destroy him? I mean his first line in the series is “Do you wanna go ride pingvuins with me!?” What? And that Aang, he is Happy 98% of the time and the rest he is in the Avatar state and is fucking Epic! Did you ever see him smile in the movie, i diddn´t… Aang do get captcured three times or something.First in episode 2 then i episode 13 and 19…thats like forever if you watch them xD
I really think you would like the series Spoony, they are not really Anime becuse it is not Japanees :P only to like 40% xD
The series have won a ot of awards including an Emmy :D
So take my advise and watch the first two episodes and if you are not hocked by then, well they you probebly don´t care about the rest :D
a fair warning these people are the same people who defend mako as a good actor and flame doug…just a warning if oyu watch it you will hate it…if oyu bash it they will kill you ….a warning to spoony…avitar fans are just as dumb and weird as twilight fans
Hey spoony you fucked up big time, the arctic scenes were filmed in greenland and a mountain top in Pennsylvania , not on a soundstage, gratz on having no idea what the arctic is actually like.
Oh and the reason they didn't keep the actor wet in simple, if you get wet in the arctic and stay wet, you die.
I love your stuff, but man you really should do some minor research before commenting on some things.
dont fuck with dbz! :-D
Ok, after re watching your review and doing some research, I feel the main issue is that you say this subject has to intertwined with columbine. From what I saw, this man is portrayed as much older than a high school student. There is no real reason to bring the tragic events of columbine into the discussion of this movie. Please.
Don't worry…John Marston kills Bill Williamson eventually
As for the kung-fu motions, its more thoroughly explained as being apart of the directors background that wanted to incoorperate these actual oriental styles into the fighting in the cartoon. Its actually never too explained in the shows how these specific movements would bend the elements this way, and that way, but more or less likely it came as a representation of early Chinese farmers (before there was a China but around the geological area and ancestorial to the Chinese today) trying to read the movements of animals to protect themselves from bandits. The movie could not have made this more cheesy if it had actually tried to actually make cheesiness the focal point. Basically what your brother said, cliffnotes. All the movie was was cliffnotes. It was made for the fans I guess, but one really has to argue why the fans including me should cash in our wallets to pay for a summary that does not suppliment the action scenes. Atleast in Avatar, the action was more downplayed because of the adventures and different poltical events circling around, even if in the first book all we see is the Fire Nation's superiority in military might and a Air temples in cinders without much of a overview on the converging plans of these officials from these different countries, but that's an overt we see in the following books while the first was there to explain Aang's choices and the begginning of it all. Which without 10 minutes each pace, really under-whelms the contrived mediocrity of these events that are flashing up on you in the movie because of more scripted sequences that gave you a feel for these characters following their continiuoty. One episode could be comprised of short-story versions of the “man with no name”, a masked mysterious stranger freeing and then threatening to end the Avatar's life so that the international game of marco polo would persist once more in a different tribe completing this contrast between characters where Aang desires peaceful resolutions, pondering that if they had met in a past life, would they be friends rather then enemies and the stranger (whom for spoiler reasons, will have to remain a stranger) who's soul pursuit was to find the Avatar at all costs to somehow redeem himself in the court of his father after being exiled, banished of all family ties or love except his uncle's and literally has NOTHING to cling onto.
I will admit the Airbender movie was not great, and it is probably better that it stays a show were all the names are pronounced properly, dancing is not always required for all bending moves, and THE EARTH BENDING IS FASTER THAN A SNAIL.
Sokka fell in love with the priestess instantly… haha not so… well atleast in the cartoon. It's just… this movie makes me mad that it had to be a remake which didn't need to happen besides the obvious reason of fanservice and profiting. And sorry for nerd raging all over your blue, clean, comment page (I promise this usually only happens with tissues and a sock) it's just that I remember so many things in the cartoon that are basically appalling whence shortened, rewritten and shipped off without really… any of the personas that enticed the audience. It was one of those types of shows that like Star Trek, kept you involved with each character which was truly a shining point, like how Charles Bukowski affinity to poetry does not need to involve complicated syntaxes I.E. Avatar did not need to be the next Dr. Who for what it was. How do I explain this… it did not need to overcomplicate things and yet from an ambient standpoint, allowed you to follow at a understandable pace, packed with action, comedy, drama, complex twists, but never did one take over the other until maybe perhaps the ending.
Or you just don't like it and are despreatly trying to push you opinion onto the rest of us. With your constant posts of no content aginest the show I doubt you really watched it anyway
Didn't either Linkara or Spoony once mention that Boll's filmmaking skills got better and that it was kind of scary that he's now turning out well-made crap movies?
The Avatar cartoon is a nice show. It's for kid, it has clean action, no gratuitous violence and the archetypes are (almost) bearable. That and the animation is a half bad either.
Spoony, MAKE CAPTAIN EXPOSITION POSSIBLE
Just finished watching Rampage! Thoroughly enjoyed it. As far as the “heist” went, I didn't see a problem with it. As much as Bill hates society, he's still a part of it. He still puts his wants above his needs, as Evan stated about society at large. I didn't see the heist as being a big part of his motive, but as a little something extra for himself. As for Evan's father's accusation towards Bill, it was made clear early on that Evan's father had a problem with the packages(contents unknown) Bill was having sent to his house. As a grieving father, it'd make sense to jump to that conclusion, unwilling to accept what your son is accused of. Anyway, I was very entertained. Hard to believe it was an Uwe Boll movie :D
It looked like heist was the point of the plan. He did mention an animal has to eat. The last message makes me think the money was to fund more killing.
…I never thought I would say this but an Uwe Boll movie was good.
Oh ya the whole racial thing in the show is the water tribe kids were originally from the northern water tribe where the majority of those people are white they moved to the southern water tribe. But i agree with miles the whole racial thing was stupid and unnecessary
Against the will of the spirits? (sorry I'm basically rewatching your review like three times right now, following my line of dialogue on what is shown now) Ehh… I'll be the first one to admit there are some unexplained plot points in the show that are there to be spiritual, but here's the case: In the show it didn't talk too much of the spirits because A. the humans selected with these gifts were sort of like mediums. The spiritual powers were clandestiate and in a world consumed with rthe more ancient and perhaps this is the wrong word but… dogmatic styles of philosophy based on belief of said spirits, their understanding halts as they are only given what is shown. Like how forests were once seen as seeds of hidden sin (the Crucible) or how the Chinese would believe in god shaping the mountians which would explain to people of theology why help give reason to the landscape. The cartoon simply had allot more time to develop this type of feeling where these spirits do not neccessarily have to go into great detail because it is already a mythical odysessy of sorts. B. The spirits have basically entwined themselves into every facet of their function by now. I don't really think that they favor or have the ability as omnipresent beings to care for the prejuduice killings until the eternal balance is disrupted. Which can be found in many dialogues of these spirits that intereact with the Avatar, as he is the only one to be a full-fledged ambassador to their will. Reminds me of plenty of fairytales, lore and noir even on the dominance of gods in feudal Japan or dynasties of China, etc. But all in all… I agree with everything your saying Spoony and Miles. It's just that these things can't actually be blamed on the original cannon and I know you two havent really bashed apart just based on this movie. All I'm trying to say is, the cartoon deserves a look-see compared to this awful crap. Might be what others have said, but meh, I'm agreeing with the majority opinion this time.
Your statement is invalid because, as you can clearly see, barely anyone agrees with you.
Oh yeah forgot to mention, I don't think the fire nation ever cared too deeply for the spiritual defiling to consider this a concern over conquest. I think only Iroh confronts Zhao with this, but no one from the fire nation really cares at this point of the war of disgracing deities of nations they have been at war with endlessly.Their technological advancements have already proven that though they still have monestaries and temples, they are well beyond the phase of history where spirituality is all-powerful and can start propagating it and eventhough it was never presented in the chapters quite thoroughly. they will rewrite history for their own gain that can exclude the importance or values of these other spirits. My point is that generals will see this more as a blow to the water nation's moral then ever a disintergration of world balance. I'm pretty sure “Against the will of the spirits?” was never mentioned by superiors under the common mindset of this fascism in the cannon.
I told you your head would explode if you watch M. Night's latest abortion… I highly recommend check out the original series on NetFlix even though it'll make you even madder at Shyamalan seeing how horribly he missed the mark on this…
I never thought we'd see the day when Dr. Uwe Boll would outclass M. Night in the directorial dept.
And trust me, if you have a Crazy Nick Cage itch… The Sorcerer's Apprentice will definitely satisfy it
That's one awesome rebuttal dude.
I think, for a lot of people, that's what makes it so painful.
Then white people have a right to feel hurt about James Cameron’s Avatar and how he portrayed them?
I stand by the fact that “The Happening” is the best comedy Shyamalan has ever made.
Im sorry… I probably just wasted everyone's time on this long-winded rant I think… there are pretty much more well-developed comments down below.. that I've covered up like a drunk collegue over a cat.
WE LOVE YOU MILES.
I think this movie, from what I hear, might have done better as a movie SERIAL rather than a feature. Just split up in 10~ minute chunks run before the studio's other movies during the summer.
Well, artistically, anyway. I don't know how profitable that'd be. At least you can guarantee a big box office intake for the FIRST weekend with a big movie, rather than gambling on luring in additional audience members for Charlotte's Web II: Die, Charlotte, Die with a new ten minute Airbender short, and keep pulling it off until you make a profit, all summer.
I suggest watching the entire cartoon. It's far more compelling as a show, and everything is actually explained. The whole point of the first season in The Last Airbender was to get Aang to learn Waterbending and to accept his role as Avatar. The goal of the Fire Nation was to stop that from happening, and in the process, they do some other things. Also, I think he was only captured like twice in the first season. But, as a fan of the cartoon, I have refused to see this movie. Mostly 'cause Shama-lama-ding-dong is a complete idiot. And, you can't fit 23 episodes of interesting plot (12 hours of story) into a condensed version that lasts not even close to 2 hours. You could hit all the major plot points in two hours and have a decent story. But, they wouldn't ever do that.
Rampage Jackson The Last Airbender? Cool.
I was dissappointed to learn Rampage was not a movie based on the classic arcade game of the same name.
Did I hear Ankh-Morpork? Fuck yeah.
Maybe, you should have just asked Joe about the cartoon and the movie… 'cause your going to get the same comments as he did. many many explaining the whole story ( 3 seasons long) to you.
My new rule of thumb.
If a critic gives it a bad rating… think about seeing a movie…If a fan base as a whole gives it a bad rating.. RUN.
WHATWHATTHEY MADE AANG'S MENTOR BLACKWHAT
Seriously, though, this was a pretty good review. I'm shocked that Uwe Boll has actually become tolerable, but I guess it would be inhuman not to improve from where he started.
Judging from what I've heard about the movie, my favorite part is when Aang is rallying the Earthbender prisoners to rebel. “EARTHBENDERS! THERE IS DIRT UNDER YOUR FEET!” And they're all like… “Oh yeah. We never noticed that.” The Fire Nation kept them in a prison where they have free access to THE ONE THING that they know they can use as weapons! In the show, they were kept on an oil rig miles out at sea made completely out of metal. But not here! That's this movie in 5 seconds right there.
As for the cartoon, I dunno. I liked it, but there are things you complained about that are a part of the show, too, like the color schemes and the prevalence of martial arts. The fight scenes are much better, going at a much faster pace and the occasional bit of parkour. Ultimately, though, once you get to the heart of the matter, this is a show that revolves around a group of kids saving the world, and I know how much you hate that.
I'm glad you posed SOME interest in the actual show at the end. I mean, that's what I'm all about right now. I want HARMONY with this. I want my favorite critics to like what I think has merit. :I
Stay classy, there.
Spoony,could you get your brother on with you more often?i love how you 2 react toward each others views on something.
Lol during the avatar review you can see his brother with a face of “you jackass that was also in the show and it kicked ass”
I gotta think the difference is that in the show, they had at *least* 20 minutes to flesh stuff out. And stuff like the Blue Spirit's identity wasn't so obvious, since the first season was really episodic and introduced new characters all the time.
Or the writing in the movie just sucked. I'll reserve actual judgment until I've seen it.
I've read through a lot of the comments on this thing, so I already know that people have suggested this. However, I'm hoping that if enough of your fans ask you to do so, you might decide to give in to popular demand. Or, if you want an explanation that doesn't accidentally sound like a bashing of your integrity (or something): That you will take into account the desires of the majority of your fans in order to provide them with something entertaining.
So, the suggestion I'm about to reiterate is: review the Avatar cartoon (or hell, Anime if you prefer to call it such, it was animated in Korea and uses the same Asian style as Anime, more or less, despite being made for an English audience).
If you have a Netflix account, all three seasons can be streamed. Not rented on DVD, streamed. This means that you can, through your Netflix subscription, watch every episode of the cartoon without even disrupting the flow of DVDs you may have previous desired. You can also do the review at your own pace, without any need to mail in DVDs to get something else that you might want to watch in the interim between episodes. So, if you have a Netflix subscription, you can watch the show without any inconvenience, at all.
Yes, you would have to take the time to watch the episodes, but I can personally assure you that this is not an inconvenience. This show is very watchable, and indeed very enjoyable. While I can not say that certain issues you had with the movie will be any different, I can say that the pacing will be so much better. There is actual characterization, there is well written plot, and there is only the bare essentials of exposition (aside from an annoying reoccurring monologue that sets up the premise of the series that acts as the theme song. Like all theme songs, this can be skipped.)
Now, I have not seen this movie, having already predicted it would be crap. This is the reason I can not say if some things you did not like will be different. I have not seen how they were presented in the film, so I can not make a proper comparison.
However, I can assure you that the “constant Tai-Chi” is not only the entire concept that spawned the series, it is very enjoyably presented in the show. Tai-Chi itself is only used for Water Bending, for instance, and this helps keep the movements from becoming tired out, so if you literally mean that only Tai-Chi was used, this is definantly not the case in the show. Also, there is a lot more creativity in the way fights are won. You will see a lot of faceless, generic firebending soldiers just shooting the same fireballs all the time, however, any character who isn't a faceless soldier does put real creativity into their atacks. The elements are used a lot more flexibly, and abused almost to their full abilities (aside from the fact that airbending is never used to make someone's lungs explode or something, but even this is a characterization induced thing, as the only airbender we see is the Avatar, and he really dislikes killing, so he obviously wouldn't try to develope an instant death attack.)
The color coordination thing is… well, it's true in the show too. The only saving grace there is that it looks far less stupid on cartoons. Why, I do not know. I'd theorize that its a subconscious acceptance of the fact that it makes things easier to animate. Consumers tolerate things like reused background characters, for instance, even when we're not supposed to assume its the same guy. So its less of a stress to just say, “OK, they're on a budget, people having cultural color preferences is acceptable.”)
As for the fire nation being evil simply because they're fire, I don't know how the movie presented this. If the movie litterally said “the fire nation is evil because fire=evil”, then no, that does not happen. The fire nation is presented as evil because they committed an act of genocide on the airbenders, and then invaded the rest of the world, starting a war without any provocation, or any motivation at all beyond “we want to rule the world.” This is, of course, aside from some propaganda that they believe conquering the world will allow them to spread their better (industrialized) lifestyle to other cultures. Now, this sounds like a rather shallow characterization, but this is the Fire Nation as a group, individual characters tend to be more well defined. If, however, your problem is actually with the fact that the Fire Nation was chosen by the writers to be the evil one, just because they are fire… this is pretty much true of the cartoon as well.
It should be noted, however, that there are evil members of other Nations, including a whole evil organization of earthbenders in season two.
Now, if I already know I like the show, why do I want you to review it? I admit, it is partially because I do not enjoy watching you mock something I like, and I want to see a more positive reaction to Avatar the Last Airbender from you. At the same time, I think seeing you point out what you like about a show is often just as rewarding as when you hate a show, such as your Knightmare review. I believe Avatar: the Last Airbender will give you a chance to do so yet again.
Sorry for being so long winded. Thank you for your time, I hope you consider reviewing the original show.
for what its worth, this movie was so bad that it actually made m
for what its worth though, this movie was so bad that it actually made me go watch the actual show now, even though I never had any interest in it.
the cartoon series is the greatest thing ever commited to animation. Zuko, Iroh, Aang (An-guh, not Arrrrrrng), Katara, Toph, Sokka, Appa, Momo, Azula, Ty Lee, Mai, Ozai, Avatar Roku, Firelord Ozai, the Di-Lee, all paved with layer upon layer of brilliant dialogue, indepth character cross referencing, battles that look compelling because they dont have fake 3D or need to be rationed by a Hollywood budget's glutton; it is immensely satisfying.
Book One starts off slow, but Book Two and Book Three explode into action and majesty as you see episodes that can make you laugh (Headband, Ember Island Players) gasp with excitement at the battles (Blue Spirit, Return To Omashu) cry from emotions (Tales of Ba-Sing-Se, Appa's Lost Days) or be lost at the majesty of the storytelling (The Storm, The Beach)
As a wrestling fan, watch The Blind Bandit. Hey, fuck it mate, I will donate whatever it costs for you to buy the 3 seasons if you stick a review up afterward. Sure there's some bad episodes like The Water Scroll (its okay to steal) and The Great Divide (they later admit its a filler episode in Ember Island Players) but from someone born in 1983, I'll say this show pisses on anything from the 80s, 90s, and 00's.
Don't make me invite you to lake laogai. Watch em!
I downloaded The Happening a few days ago on your recommendation, and it was fucking hilarious. The hot dog obsessed guy was the best character. Also watched Port of Call a month ago or so as per your recommendation, and it was amazing.
You LAKED it?
OH GOD THE APOCALYPSE.
I'm really glad that Uwe Boll got a movie that wasn't completely asinine. It suggests that he isnt a total bastard deliberately making bad movies and writing it off on taxes as we all learned in the Alone in the Dark review. And I won't gush about Avatar being the best thing ever, but I do recommend it. It does have some anime cliches but not too bad, and its not all wavy thai chi in the cartoon either. It looks a lot more like quality martial arts
I'd like to hear Spoony's thoughts on the cartoon if he gets to watch it.
I…really wouldn't recommend the cartoon. At all. Before I get crucified, I have to admit that I'm the exception in totally not getting the show's appeal. Still, here's my pseudo-criticism.
You know how in FFX you exclaimed “what assholes!” when they were going to a Blitzball tournament instead of, you know, saving the world? Imagine that stretched into an entire show. Admittedly the animation/action is -really- good. Very fluid and all that jazz. But when the action isn't happening is when the quality starts to plummet. Like the attempts at humor. We're talking Jimmy Neutron-level stuff here.
It's like a D&D game, in terms of how the characters interact and how seriously they take things. Like a fighter might critical a goblin and the group would laugh at how hilariously over-the-top the hit was, never mind how threatening goblins might be. Just a constantly immersion-breaking effect as they make stupid jokes and snide comments in the middle of a world-shattering conflict. Not saying the show actually has hilarious over-the-top violence (awesome as that might be), but you know what I mean.
They even make bluff checks like D&D. I remember at one point Aang had to dress up like an old man to win a guard's sympathy and gain access to a city. Natrually it was unbelievably and hokey as hell, but because all guards are idiots it worked anyway. The exact same thing happened in a later episode, only this time Saka had to feign sickness. “Oh nooo, I'm dying”. Free as a bird after that.
If the creators of this show, after it had had its run, revealed it to be a spoof. Like some sort of anime disumbrationism, my mind would be thoroughly blown. I can see it now. “We created Avatar mainly to capitalize upon the vulnerable, non-discriminating tastes of its target audiences. Key elements include:
1. Lots of action and special effects. bendingbendingbendingbending2. Humor simplistic enough to appeal to the LCD3. Same with character development4. A relentless tirade of Asian. The tai chi, the instruments, the emotes, the food the characters eat. Weeabooism is all the rage these days.
All of this put on a network whose cartoons have gone downhill lately (to put it mildly), and you've got a perfect storm of mediocrity. Like people are so fed up with the majority of western crap offerings that anything halfway decent is celebrated like the second coming.
But above all else, I'm not really hostile. Crappy TV is pretty standard for me. I'm just really, really confused. What am I not getting, here? What makes this show so monumentally awesome? If you do decide to watch it Spoony, I hope you “get it” better than I do.
I can see how it may seem repetitive that we constantly see the characters using their Tai Chi motions for most of the movie. But from what I heard, the interesting aspect behind the bendings of the different elements is that they are all based on real chinese martial arts. Water bending is obviously Tai chi, Earth bending is Hung Gar, Airbending is Baguazhang / Shaolin martial art, and Firebending is Northern Shaolin. Yeah it does get tiresome after a while, but of course there's alot more to the characters than just posing and element bending as they are far more fleshed out developed characters in the series.
But since all we see in the movie is just the characters saying we have to do this, we have to go somewhere, there's pretty much little to no time AT ALL for the movie to elaborate on their personalities which would make them far more interesting to follow and for the audience to care about. I was appalled by how Sokka the guy that harpo played, brought none of his original bossy sarcasm and comic relief which is what made him so memorable in the show.
Though as far as an adaptation goes, I have to give M. Night some credit for at least knowing what the source material for the movie was, and not made it up as it went along like James Wong and Stephen Chow for their abomination of DBE. Yeah it may not save the movie from being any good, but at least he and the crew understood what the show is about, and what basically happens.
BTW Miles, You get points for actually doing research on the cartoon by understanding what all the little references are in the film. SPOONY, do your homework next time you rant on something that's easily explainable by doing quick little readings that summarize the cartoon.
P.S. To both of you, I hope you two are well aware that the uncle in the cartoon was voiced none other than the beloved MAKO. Who I think they should have dedicated the movie too, but then again it probably wasn't worth it.
I was wondering whether they would dedicate the film to him. Now I have a new thing to be mad about, but at the same time I’m kind of glad they didn’t, all things considered – I think Mako is either spinning in his grave (who the hell is Ee-roh?!), or asking Chuck Norris for another favor. Let’s hope it’s the latter. ;) 8-)
Me too, I'd wonder what his reaction would be.
There are some episodes of the cartoon that are… let's say juvenile. The first season had far more than its fair share of such episodes. But there are just as many episodes of good character development, actually funny humor, and great action sequences.
On the whole, I'd say the pluses significantly outweigh the minuses. But if for some reason you can't ignore the warts for the good stuff, I could see how that would bother you.
You're being way too harsh, you have to take into account that no matter how many adults adore this show, it was created for kids. So of course there's simplistic humour; they want everyone from the ages of four upwards to be able to get the joke. But simple doesn't mean bad. Actually I'm impressed they did keep things so straightforward without ever patronising their target audience -something a frustrating amount of kids shows do.
Really I find the awesomeness of Avatar comes from the over all feeling of it; it's just generally very bright, charming and incredibly fun. And it's got a lot more heart than any other kids show I've seen.
You've certainly got a right to your opinion, and I can understand why the show wouldn't appeal to everyone – after all, very few things are universally loved or hated. However, I do agree with Raghaile and Nicolas, but I'd like to add something else. You say the show is a “relentless tirade of Asian.” I don't want to get too much into this, as it's a sensitive subject for a lot of people, but for me, as a half-Asian person who's fairly secure in her racial identity, I grew up wondering why no one on TV looked like me or ate the food I ate with my Asian relatives or why there were no film adaptations of Asian myths I loved, etc. Now that I'm older, I'm not overly sensitive to Asian presence in media, but it's hard not to ignore the frequent stereotyping or total lack thereof. I was 14 when the series premiered and because I don't have cable, I only started watching it fairly recently on DVD, but if I had seen this show as a child I know I would have been happy to see all those things I just mentioned that I rarely saw in any other show, stereotype-free, even if I didn't like the show itself. Just my thoughts. 8-)
I actually own rampage so i could do a video review of it, the bes part of the movies is the bingo hall as its completely out of the blue, but it is true that the bingo players could miss a zombie apocolypse while playing
well you cant like everything
I'm not sure if anyone else has brought this up, but I can't help but see some parallels between what many Airbender fans are going through and the sheer sack-crushing pain and disappointment the Wing Commander movie caused you, Spoony. I'm sure I and other fans are currently experiencing at least a modicum of those feelings. It's almost the same story: both A:TLA and WC are amazing series all around, with epic stories, great writing, fun characters who were wonderfully portrayed, unique worlds, etc. Even if you don't like them, you can't deny their legacies. Both series couldn't have been THAT hard to adapt to the big screen (Airbender is perhaps a bit trickier, but it could be done) and there was no lack of good source material. So naturally their film adaptations teabagged them and beat them with a splintery two-by-four. Of course. Seriously, as I was reading the reviews early the morning of July 1 and trying to comfort other fans I kept thinking, “This is exactly how Spoony must have felt when he saw Wing Commander.” Just thought I'd share. Hopefully both series will one day get the film reboots they deserve. 8-)
attack the fire nation with water!!! I totally had a final fantasy flashback.. *ahem*duh… I don't know! I being attacked by a lady made of fire, who is swinging swords made of fire, in a volcano full of fire… OH NO!! SHE'S THROWING FIRE!! what kind of magic spell to use?! duh… fire?! No, that's stoopid!!! MAN this game is HARD!!!
Dude, if you like awesome martial arts action and some pretty epic world building, then watch the fucking show, the plotting and writing aren't bad, but keep in mind that it is for kids aged 10-14, so don't expect to be blown away by that. Do watch it if you have the chance though.
The series is sooo much better. I mean, I know you won't watch it, but just take comfort in that fact.
Hearing you guys pronounce it “Ong” makes me want to take a club to M. Night Shyamalan's head.
Watch the series!
damm spoony you're getting chubby lol
Point taken, the whoring does kind of obscure the intended age group for me. I have the same problem with One Piece; my older sister describes it as such a fun manga that makes you feel like a pirate on a beach overcast with lots of sun. To me it just felt goofy and annoying. I remember reading a character poll describing Luffy as Japan's favorite. Cultural tastes aside, all I was thinking was “Why!? He's a total douche! They all are! How can you have endearment for these sub-people!?”
Now I'm starting to sound like Dr. Insano reviewing Ferris Bueller, aren't I?
I have no idea what you mean by that, even given the age range the scope if very epic, it might not be that mature but it was way better than any kids show has a right to be.
i think the “earth shieeeeeld” “water shieeeeeeeld” and the now infamous Penis hair make this movie an almost Rocky Horror like movie. yellbacks dude cmon whos with me? lol shame since rocky horror is entertaining and this movie obviously isnt
The earth people wear brown and beige in the movie?
Well in the cartoon it's green. Strange thing to switch around.
I like how you two really compliment eachother in these reviews, Noah is the more energetic, kinda goofy one, while Miles seems more calm and collected.
You both work so great together.
I hope to see more reviews with you and Miles.
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Hopefully that imbeds. But here, clense. And watch the show. It's much better.
I knew it would be bad as soon as I saw “live action” like a year ago, and then m night and I was like “are you serious? thats even worse”.But yeah you need to see the cartoon, it is everything the movie isnt appart from the colour coordinated kingdoms.
The way you talk about Rampage makes me think of Elephant with some 'meaning' tacked on the end – that Boll wants a classy, explorative film about the violence but also some narrative candy – sounds as clumbsy as any of his films, he's just found a new way to do it.
spoony, you're gaining weight. you need to seriously quit the sugar soda/taco bell/etc and who knows what else. it's not gud 4 u. if you let the stress of this kind of life get to your diet it's not going to improve.
love,a concerned fan.
Spoony the last airbender review was hilarious now you and the snob or even just your brother really need to riff the hell out of this movie when i comes out or hell just riff on a camrip or something that would be so funny man that would be hilarious you should totally do that i would so pay for you riffing on this movie.
About the Last Airbender… Watch the cartoon, after the first book they're less for kids than before.In the cartoon, when a Character like the blue spirit is introduced they stay in the shadows for an episode or longer so again, that holds far more tension than in the movie…Else, yes, the Uncle character is awesome.
I seriously thought I would be the only guy correcting the “It's not an anime,” thing on account of, well, fucking everybody think it's an anime. Whoops.
I've gotta agree with Spoony, this is one of the only movies I've ever seen that I honestly can't think of a single thing to compliment about it. And yes, the Tai Chi (I referred to it as “interpretive dance” whenever I talked about the movie) drove me INSANE. Am I the only one who wondered why nobody just walked up and punched the dudes before they could finish their routine and then threw fire or rocks or whatever? Seriously, one character has a boomerang, he should have been popping firebenders left and right as soon as they started waving their arms.
Uwe Boll made a GOOD film?!
(shrugs) Well, at least he's learning…As long as he doesnt goof up, he'll climb out of that mudhole and we can instead turn our attention to Tommy “i've got sand in my vagina” Wiseau and his abysmal attempts at making films…And apparently he ordered Doug Walker to remove his review of “the Room” for some reason…If this is the case…Wiseau…I have some cleaning agent that you can use to wipe your vagina clean!
Spoony I am BEGGING you to create a character of yourself as Commander Zhao from the movie, who does nothing but say exposition in this dynamic yet matter-of-factly voice. Seriously, it would be absolutely hilarious!
SPOONY: Not onto Part 3 of my Final Fantasy X review and-ZHAO: Hello there, Spoony One.SPOONY: What the fuck? Zhao?!ZHAO: Yes, it is me, Commander Zhao. I am a Commander of the Fire Nation navy as referenced during your V-Log of The Last-SPOONY: Yeah, I know, but what are you-ZHAO: I am serving as a comedic character, and I will obtain this humor by expositing everything I say, in which the laughter will ensue, and I will have achieved my goal.SPOONY: Seriously, you're fucking up my show, dude.ZHAO: Ah, you mean your show called The Spoony Experiment, in which you make fun of bad movies and-SPOONY: GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY ROOM!
Well I think he said previously he doesn't like animes and though Avatar isn't really an anime I couldn't see Spoony liking it. It's literally a kids cartoon with diluted fight scenes, lack of originality to clothes (everyone looks the same). Some may like the storyline and the comradery of the kids in the show but I don't and from what Spoonys already highlighted I doubt he'd like it either and he'd probably get bored.
It's a weird position to be defended/Wild Mass Guessing a Uwe Boll film, but maybe the constantly changing motives was his take on the same idea you had? Instead of having no motive at all, have a bunch of conflicting ones that make no sense taken together, meaning that ultimately there wasn't an explanation that made sense.
That Bill Williamson….he escapes John Marsten, frames a guy and escapes with the money.
As a fan of the Avatar the Last Airbender cartoon, Shyamalan's movies is an insult to me. I know YOU think it's bad, but for myself and other fans, it takes one of the best animated shows of the decade and bastardizes it.
But it was almost worth it to hear you call Ba Sing Se “Ankh-Morpork”.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REVIEW THE CARTOON SERIES OF AIR BENDER!IT WILL BE HILARIOUS!
Noah, while it might seem sort of childish to you, you should really watch the cartoon “The Last Airbender” is based on. The first few episodes weren't the best, but later on it gets a lot more serious and becomes really good. And Hell, some of the jokes (despite being geared towards kids) are pretty damn funny.
Seriously, I didn't think it was possible to fuck up SO MUCH in a single movie.
Luckily there's going to be a sequel series to Avatar called The Legend of Korra. Hopefully that'll SUPREMELY cleanse the palate of all fans who were scorned because of this. I wasn't expecting such a critical beatdown for this film.
Weird coincidence though, both Wing Commander and Avatar had Mark Hammill in them. Huh
Cool, I hadn’t heard that! Thanks for the heads-up; I looked it up and it sounds like it’ll be good. Maybe if they’d made THAT – or another original story from the same universe – into a movie it would have turned out better. I also wasn’t expecting this film to be ripped to shreds; I expected it’d either be great or mediocre. If it were mediocre, I’d still go see it, but I’m no longer planning to.Oh yeah, I forgot about that – and he played characters on totally opposite ends of the good/evil spectrum. Regardless of whether you like Mark Hamill or not, you have to admit he’s done pretty well despite the inevitable typecasting. 8-)
A friend of mine said he had to rewatch the series just to cleanse himself of the memory of this film. Heck, I rewatched the series just from HEARING about what happened. Hopefully Korra details drop at Comic-con because I REALLY wanna see what else they can do with the series’ universe and what kind of story they’re going to tell with it.
Yes, Hamill is AWESOME; hearing him as the Joker growing up was a real treat -drools over Mask of the Phantasm-
Spoony, the cartoon is awesome, plus the guys who made it aren't dunderheads about Asian cultures (having a cultural consultant go over the scripts and even a martial arts master help with making unique fighting styles for the Bending arts). Heck, it's even really funny. In one episode the brother character, I kid you not, DRINKS HALLUCINOGENIC CACTUS JUICE. If you're not laughing your ass off at that then I will be amazed.
i thought you misunderstood the part about the heist , what i saw when i saw the movie was that he burned the money to add incentive for his friend to do this , cause he had the opinion that money is worthless , while bill did not and i dont know if it was for a.1: as he stated in the bank , your life is as worthless as this money meaning he could easely kill 50 people to secure his spot in the world.or2: he needed the money to keep going on his killing spree in another location.
i dont really think it was just a easy way to get money plan.
and yes this was the first uwe boll movie i liked aswell , took my time to watch it before i heard the review , just heard you said i like this movie and thought i gotta see this.
Well, Azula is underage canonically, but Summer Bishil is drop-dead gorgeous.
Hah, I almost went to see this movie, just to get to see the Penis hair Brad was talking about :P
Can I just ask, why are you calling Aang “Auhng”?
The Tai Chi thing is one of the most annoying things about the film. In the series, the four bending arts are based on four different martial arts, only Waterbending is based on Tai Chi (flowing, graceful, makes sense no?). The others are based on totally different martial arts, that of course make sense according to the element (Air is Ba Gua, Earth is Hun Gar style Kung Fu, Fire is Shaolin style Kung Fu, and an Earthbending character who arrives in the second season has a different style again).
Also, the bending in the film is completely retarded, they dance around like twits for five minutes, then the element moves of its own accord. It's like they're performing a spell or something, instead of bending. In the series, the element moves with them, matching their movements, as they're actually directing it. This means they actually have fights (and brilliant fights at that, right out of the best martial arts films), not turn based pokemon battles.
Every time Miles is with you on camera, the vlog is win. Please bring him on camera more – the interplay between both of you is always tight and always funny for different reasons and I have a lot of fun watching you two go back and forth.Another thing is, I saw “The Last Airbender” as well, and when people ask me if it's really as bad as people say… I end up using a quote from your Transformers 2 review (another video that was awesome and consisted mostly of you and Miles talking) where you said “'Stuff' happens, but it doesn't mean anything!” – which I think is just as fitting (if not, sadly more so) than that Michael Bay shitfest.
Earth tones, people! Everyone wears earth tones! Browns and beige!
3 things1)the wavy tae chi thing bothered me 2.trust me it wasnt as bad as in the cartoonthey just would move the water with their limbs like if u wanted to set a guy on fire ud just point ur fist at him and fire would come outsimpleand 2)the cartoon isnt nearly as bad as the movie.trust me its much betterand 3)they even pronounced the names of the characters wrongits AANG not ONG
Thank the movie for the “Auhng” part.Yeah, Aang is pronounced “Auhng”. Iroh is pronounced “Eeroh”. Sokka is pronounced “Sohkka”.Thanks Shyamalan!
As to “Rampage” I agree this is Uwe Boll's best flic, but as to the vinettes or w.e i took a different meaning from his what we found out to be vlogs. I thought they were supposed to look like confession videos to make it seem like he could have been caught by the police. Only later to reveal they were in fact vlogs in a way mocking the dude he offed because he was a mockery of what he preached, and at the same time threatening anyone to be the same type of hypocrite. Know to the chaotic scenes before the rampage started and they were ok except for they were padding for the movie because you get to see EVERYTHING again not ever 20 minutes later or so. So w.e its a decent movie I enjoyed it enough I suppose.
Spoony, keep in mind that in the cartoon/anime, everything is explained, and usually happens over an episode or two. The moon spirit/ princess plot point makes far, FAR more sense when the relationship between the princess and the waterbenders brother (sokka) happens over the course of three episodes.
Also, it's Kung-fu. The movie is crap.
The dragon actually gives useful advice in the cartoon. The movie screws this up too.
In the cartoon, Aang only has one summer to learn all of the elements.
Seriously, screw this movie and watch the cartoon show. It has infinitely more life, humor, and quality voice acting than this movie does.
Also, the blue spirit thing is over several episodes, and it isn't revealed who it is until many episodes after he is introduced.
Not true; it’s revealed as Zuko; Aang umasks him himself in the episode where he is introduced.
Now, only Aang knows about this fact, of course. Well, Aang and Iroh (because he’s not an idiot).
Fire nation are made out of Indian people, I am Indian does mean I am evil? lol jk
This movie seems really bad … but really should we even hold hope for a good live action that as good if not better than the original material, here the truth… IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!! ( although the live action Ninja turtles wasn't bad)
For God's sake, Spoony! One simple truth! RANT ABOUT MOVIE WITH BROTHER BADNEW ULTIMA VIDEO GOOD!Also: FFX PLEASE :3
Give him a break on the FFX, Nobody should be forced to play that game too often.
I think that would go against the theme of this website, because the Airbender series is actually GOOD.
The dragon doesn't say anything in the cartoon, actually, being a dragon he can't talk. He just helps Aang get to Avatar Roku's (the dragon's owner) spirit, who is the real guy for exposition.
And yes, his exposition is indeed actually useful advice, not useless filler. He's pivotal, in fact.
M Night Shyamalan fought to have the names changed to an Asian pronunciation. Which I find pretty insulting to the creators, who obviously put in so much care and attention to detail. They did their research and it shows. So I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be aware of the Asian pronunciation. I can only conclude that they chose to pronounce the names phonetically because they sounded better than way and it suited the characters.
It was such a stupid thing to change as well, did he seriously not realise how irritating this would be for the fans? The more I think about what Shyamalan did to this film, the more I suspect he hated the show. Hated it and everyone that liked it.
Anyone who can shoot fire is awesome ;)
TMNT the original live action movies were ok, probably because it was a comic book movie, not a cartoon movie. It didn't follow the cartoon show at all, it followed the comic.
I agree fully, but IIRC, he isn't actually playing the game. Someone else is and sending him the footage to use and dissect.
Very true, you can't expect fans of the show to accept a name change like that. Every time they said his name I felt like walking out. Also, M. Night's change would only make sense if they hired an Asian to play Aang. (Even if they did I would STILL hate the name change.)
Yes and no. It would let him rail against the movie again with new insight.
I'm actually also bothered by the tai chi thing. Like, in the cartoon, all that aang needs to do to air bend is by bring his hands in a motion like a push, in the movie, aang needs to do useless kicking motions and swirls just to make fog.
I'm actually also bothered by the tai chi thing. Like, in the cartoon, all that aang needs to do to air bend to make a fog is by moving his hands in a motion of a push. In the movie, aang needs to do useless kicking motions and swirls just to make fog.
Actually, the dragon doesn't give the advice, the owner of the dragon gives the advice, avatar Roku
Lol thats what I meant. When Spoony said “dragon” I was like “that guy in the spirit realm who gives aang advice and also happens to have a dragon which actually does help aang out, just not with words.” It’s been a while since I’ve seen the show and I just melded the two together.
A good Uwe Boll movie?
Gentlemen: One of the Seven Seals has been broken. Brace yourselves.
I had 5 thoughts about Last Airbender when I walked out:1.Why is there so much screentime of people doing Tai Chi?2.”What the fuck is going on?” In pretty much every scene until they made it to the water palace. 3.You can't explain that two people are in love through a narration4.Why does every movie have to be Lord of the Rings nowadays (The line up on the castle wall+sequel bating.)5.Why did I just spend $20 on this?
Anime usually refers to Japanese animation and Cartoon to European/American…
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dam Matt Frewer was in this i need to see this
dam matt frewer was in this i gota see this
I'm pretty sure spoony is aware of that, but doesn't really care.
Really? Tommy Wiseau did? Come on. Links or it didn't happen.
Nah….I’m just teasing Wiseau.
I think the review was taken down due to extreme bandwith or something. I’m guessing Doug did that to prevent his websites server from crashing….I wish he’d post a comment informing us of the problem.
Ok…I just found out that Tommy ‘the tit’ has actually filed copyright complaints against Thatguywiththeglasses for the ‘crime’ of making a review of his pathetic movie….for more info, go to Doug Walkers website…
Tommy Wiseau, you’re a prick!
and you have successfully encountered the biggest problem of the movie from what I've heard. They tried to cram all of the first season of Avatar into one movie and ended up taking out all the charm and humor out of it as well as stuff essential to the plot while trying to explain the plot without actually doing it. I've yet to see it, but I've got a comic of it that illustrates pretty well what others are saying so I'm going to assume that my assessment is correct. The casting director is a fucking moron. She told the extras to come audition dressed in the national costume of their heritage. That's fine, but then she told them as examples of this “If you're Korean, wear a kimono. If you're Belgian, wear lederhosen.” Then, she told this black woman that she should put a scarf on to look like a Ukranian person. This is the woman that casted the people in the movie.
The series itself is a good series and I highly recommend you watch it. The tai-chi is exclusive to the waterbenders. That is what the creators based their waterbending on. They had a martial arts expert in to teach them tai-chi and hun gar and northern shaolin and ba gua for the four elements. Tai-chi is for the waterbenders because it flows like water does. Hun Gar is for the earthbenders because it is closely rooted to the ground. Northern Shaolin was chosen for the firebenders because it is dazzling to watch as it is fast, furious and dangerous. And Ba Gua was used for the airbenders because it revolves around circular motions. That's what the bending all is.
Oh, come on! It's not so bad! I've played it twice, man, seriously! And also: It's true?.. He. Does. Not. Play. It!? COME OOOOON!!! Jeez, what's the point then! You can't be really angry if you just scream at some fucking footage! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
He HAS played FFX before, he just didn’t want to waste his time doing it again for the review, since he’s already up to speed on the game.
All indians are evil, man! They believe in a crippled elefant!
It's always nice to see Miles pop in and add a different opinion, cause you two work off each other well :P
Are you fucking serious about the constant Tai Chi thing in Last Airbender. For fuck's- the girl is the only waterbender in her village. That was kind of the point. The Fire Nation military had come over a few decades and either captured or killed them all. But continuity aside, the show does go into the spirituality of martial arts, but it sounds like Shammalammadingdong respects that about as much as the source material.
As a Cracked article pointed out, they take that whole rallying the earthbenders thing from an episode where the characters found a bunch of Earth Kingdom POWs out on a metal ship at sea, where there was absolutely nothing for them to bend. That was kind of a more realistic situation, AND THAT WAS IN A CARTOON. I hate you Shyamalan. And of course it was the girl, Katara, who was trying to rally them. But I suppose girls can't be brave and active in Hollywood.
Also what waterbending scroll? She fucking stole it from pirates. Yeah. She was kind of desperate to learn anything herself seeing as she was the only waterbender in her village and didn't really have anyone to teach her. ARGH. Why couldn't all of this money have just gone to a big budgeted animated film by the same team from the show?
The martial arts moves are pretty subdued in the show, they're fast-paced and basically its just elemental magic added to real martial arts moves.
Yeah, the princess character was pretty… two dimensional in the show too. She really was sort of a deus ex machina. But since everything you described took place over three episodes which would have been.. an hour and a half … yeah.
Thing about the Firelord, you never even see him til like the third season. Arrrrgh.
Season one actually did end with the reveal of Zuko's sister, Azula. And yeah, it was a little corny. But once you see what a manipulative, poisonous and impossibly badass sociopath of a villain she is it's fine. …I hope they don't make a second movie, he'll probably ruin her too.
Ahh the comet. It comes every 100 years actually, it's how the Fire Nation started the war. It makes them retardedly powerful, and they CAN ALREADY MAKE FIRE WITH THEIR CHI OR WHATEVER. How do you fuck that up? In the show firebending is based on Northern Shaolin style and is all about inner energy and breath. It's also a big part of the mythology that the nation learned their respective techniques from animals (dragons, in the case of the Fire Nation) kind of like how kung fu itself is based on the way animals fight. Arghh I haven't even seen this movie and I hate it. I WILL CONTINUE TO NERD RAGE.
I'm glad he didn't do this “it was Earth all along” thing, he's already given a big enough middle finger to the series.
Well the color scheme thing is present in the show, though the Earth Kingdom being the biggest and most culturally varied nation not everyone wears green. Cause the cartoon MAKES SENSE. Just watch it, Spoony. It's got good writing and good comedy too.
Correction, Anime is barely Japanese for Animation (アニメ). A more correct term would be Japanese Animation. Avatar: The Last Airbender could be called an Anime, but you should just call it all Animation since that's what the word is to begin with. A Cartoon (“toons”) tend to be more silly, and silly/less serious kinds of animation from Japan I would call a Cartoon as well, or a Japanese Cartoon, or a Cartoon Anime. It's all really kind of pointless since Avatar: The Last Airbender is crap to begin with, this is just directed at those people who don't realize what Anime actually means.
I actually have to disagree with your review of Last Airbender. It's not that bad, the “Tai Chi” is overused and the effects are a little hoaky but you can't really complain about it sequel baiting, any trilogy sequel baits. Matrix Sequel baited, LOTR sequel baited, Empire Strikes Back sequel baited! I normally respect your views Spoony, but I think you were just a bit too harsh on Last Airbender.
I haven't heard anything about Uwe Boll's Rampage until now, but since I knew nothing when I first read the title to this Vlog I thought “No FUCK NO! Uwe Boll made a movie about Rampage the video game!” So now after watching this video it was a great relief and I'm actually interested in seeing it.
I saw the tiltle “Uwe Boll's Rampage” and I was like, rampage, the arcade game? WHY? Anyways, nice reviews, Miles is pretty funny, you should have him on more often.
You see, M. Night shamamlan had all the ethnicity turned around and in the wrong places and faction. Chinese= mostly firenation. In the show (which is alot better and very enjoyable to watch) there is only ONE indian in the entire series, and you dont see him untill the end of the second season and hes only in one episode. Im not saying anything in the movie is racist but i am saying that shymalan fucked up with everything with this movie from the source material (Which involves ethnicity, fighting styles, and even there personalitys) to everything technical you mentioned. Shyamalan is done, this just shows he can no longer direct, nor does he care. His heart in movies is gone. I can't believe im saying this, but Micheal Bay would have been a better choice to make this movie.
I really think you should give the cartoon a chance. It actually is borderline “Anime” in the sense that it was animated in Korea, but was made for an American audience. That being the case, the humor in it – which was completely lacking from the movie- is easily understood by a Western audience.
Almost all of your complaints for the movie could be remedied by watching the series. First of all, it has wonderful characterization and motivation behind each character. Second, all the disciplines of “bending” use a different style of Kung-fu which lends both to the characteristics of the elements they control and gives a more cultural feel to the different nations. Third, the cartoon actually gives the audience more credit for having a brain. Many things are foreshadowed and hinted at, with only just the exposition that's needed.
The Blue Spirit was one of my favorite episodes in season 1. It said a lot and at the same time it had very little dialogue throughout.
Four – THEY KEEP MISPRONOUNCING THE CHARACTER'S NAMES! Aang should be pronounced like “Bang” not “Ahnk”
I won't say the series is perfect. There are some points I don't completely cotton to but it is still a masterful job, particularly for a children's cartoon.
In season 1, the main villain is Admiral Xiao, in season 2, the main villain is Princess Azula, and in season 3, Fire Lord Ozai finally steps up to bat as the chief and final villain. It's kind of like an RPG in the sense that you elevate to stronger opponents. As well, Aang learns his powers 1 element per season. Thinking of it in that context it may help you a bit.
I can honestly say it would have made a great movie. They made plenty of pit-stops that were not essential to the storyline, but what made the cartoon was the characterizations. You know what? I think Jackie Chan would have made a better director for this because he's at least done comedy (including children's comedies) and knows various styles of Kung-fu very well. I mean, if you had the characters – Aang's kindness yet childish streak mixed with the weight of this great destiny on his shoulders… Kitara and her motherly streak, yet her strong desire to become a great Water Bender.. She is easily the most level headed of the original trio. Then you get to Sokka (Saw-kah) who has no bending powers. He's completely snarky and cynical, but comes in handy as a strategist when he comes into his own. The characters are the core and unfortunately the movie did not preserve them.
M. Knight completely missed what made them great. And as a side note, they continually do different things with the elements in the fights which keep things interesting… something again, missed in the movie. Seriously, the cartoon continually surprised me and outdid itself every season. Even when I wasn't sure of a direction it was taking, they managed (with very few hiccups) to bring me along with them.
The funny thing is that a LOT of your complaints work the same way in the show but make more sense. Like, yes, Aang gets captured briefly mid-battle many times (and for a longer period once or twice) but always escapes quickly. The Blue Spirit does reveal himself pretty quickly with the tension being more inter-character, if Aang can figure out that it's actually Zuko resuing him and stuff like that. The sequel baiting is done…well basically the same way in the show too but there we KNOW we're getting a second season and when they show the daughter (Azula by the way) you're like “HOLY SHIT! Zuko has a sister?!”. Yes she came out of nowhere but it was actually an unexpected twist there.
The funniest thing is that whole moon spirit thing. Yeah THAT…that was the one hour season finale and was, in my opinion, the best part of the entire series and a HUGE “Holy SHIT! They're showing this on Nickelodeon?!”. Because we didn't KNOW the moon spirit was a fish and we had to find that out and when it's killed…well…they litterally KILL THE MOON AND THROW ALL OF NATURE OUT OF BALANCE with the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD being tinted red! And the Uncle fucking tears into the general about it and attacks the fuck out of him even though they're on the same side and shit. It's pretty damn epic.
…and obviously much of the one hour special was spent with Sokka (the guy) and Yue (The Princess) bonding and falling in love prior to that…actually wait that goes back to the episode or two before that as I recall there was a sub plot about how she was engaged to this other douchebaggy guy.
Long story short: Watch the series. I know season 1 is a bit slow and silly but MAN does it pick up by the finale. It was easily the best show I had ever seen on television. VERY good shit.
Even sadder, if you listen to the DVD commentary on the show? The reason why Shamylan did the movie was because he was actually a friend of the crew, actually calling up the creators of the show on the phone to shoot the shit about the series. So this is sounding like a unique kind of bad, where it's not so much inaccurate as it is HORRIBLY FUCKING DONE. I guess that was inevitable though, the show had really good pacing so there was NO WAY they could cut it down to movie length…ESPECIALLY not the next two seasons! >_<
you just called the earth city ( Ba Sing Se) Ankh Morpork…YOU FREAKING RULE DUDE!
yeah in the show they kinda have cultural grouping Fire seems more like Mongols, Earth more like China, Air more like Monks, and Water being like Eskimos. But yeah the show is WAAAAAAAAAAAY better then this, oddly enough I kinda liked it at first, and once I thought about how they kinda screwed up here and there my opinion changed.
Thank god! Your giving the toon at least a chance. I can't really say anything new that anyone else has except this, plus everyother live action adaption of an anime/cartoon should be locked up in room 101. Please Allah the cowboy bebop movie breaks the chain. That one isn't necesarry at all, there's already a great animated movie for it…..oh whatever, i'll wait and see ^_^;
A good Uwe Boll movie? Isn't that one of the maiyan prophecies? (poor joke, sorry ^_^; )
Spoony, I'm so sorry that Avatar:The Last Airbender was actually that bad.I wish I could give you some Brain Bleach.
And you know what the sad thing is? M Night Shyamalan actually watched the show! He watched the show and fucked the movie up that bad. He got the names wrong of main characters. That's just sad.
I agree with pretty much everything you and your brother said, Spoony. The whole Tai-Chi thing was very unnecessary. I noticed that too that it was pretty much in every scene and perfectly choreographed. Very annoying. And the funny thing about the Earth Benders was that they were imprisoned…in Earth. Seriously, ground was all around them. But they were too pussy to even do anything. At least in the show they were surrounded by metal, not Earth.
Watch the show, Spoony. It is SO much better than this crap hole of a movie. It actually makes sense and you grow to like the characters. What I find kind of funny is that you liked the uncle, Uncle Iroh. Even people who hate the show love Uncle Iroh. That's just how great he is and he's even greater in the show.
1968: Tunnel Rats was not written; it was improvised. I'd say that Stoic fits more in with Darfur, another improv movie. But try out Final Storm…or, when it comes out, BloodRayne 3.
I don't see why you would have a complaint with Tai Chi, since that's what the Waterbending style was based on. The other ones, though, are most definitely not. Also, how would you condense 20 episodes into 2 hours?
Yikes…they couldn't even get the names right. “Ahng”? “Sooka”?
And if you really are going to watch the cartoon, like you said…trust me. It's a little kiddy, but past that, it's pretty damn good.
EARTH SHIELD!EARTH SHIELD!DOUBLE DEMON FANG!RAY THRUST!WATER SHIELD!
go watch the tv show ._. a TON better
i'm gonna be honest with you guys….why do you pronounce AAng'sname like that? if its written in the movie that way, i'm gonna find M. Night, kidnap him, stap him multiple times in no-lethal area s he must live through the painand then tear all his fingers out so he can never write another screenplay. yessssssss…..mwahahahahaha
god i am such a fanboy of this cartoon series. i can tell you multiple problems with this movie: Sozin's comet only comes every 100 years, not 30. waterbending is the only bending based on tai chi, firebending is based on Xsing Yi, Southern Dragon Claw and northern shaolin, airbending is based on the ancient chinese martial art of Baguazhang, and earthbending is based on the Hun Gar style of Kung Fu (the one based on animals: tiger, crane, etc). and book one did end the same way the movie did, with the sister appering at the end, and the intense music implying a dun-dun-dun. of course, it was done tastefully. and the furry thing Aang rides is a flying bison named Appa. tha's all i can correct and touch on because i've never seen the movie. I probably will see it, just cause of my fanboy status, and because i can shut my brain off to be able to sit through any movie and enjoy it.
now that UWE BOLL cant get german tax thingy anymore, he has to make good movies to make money…..thats still no easy feat for uwe boll.
I haven't seen the movie, and I don't know if this is what the director was going for, but I remember reading about the actual Columbine massacre and laughing, (albiet slightly), at something one of the shooters said to one of his friends during the killing. The kid said said something like, “What are you doing?” and the shooter responded, “Killing people.” Not sure why but it just kind've struck me as funny despite myself. Also when some of the survivors described the murders as “like something out of “The Matrix,” made me smirk a bit, until I remembered what I was reading. What I'm trying to say is perhaps the director made it intentionally funny, but to maybe make a statement about how violence can be glorified? I don't know though it is Uwe Boll we're talking about, afterall.
Watching this review makes me want to draw a Katara with spaghetti arms teaching Aang how to waterbend. Who also has spaghetti arms. XD Watching Spoony reenact all the martial arts was hilarious.
before watching this movie i had never seen the cartoon…ever but i did get to see them after i watched it. Spoony you must watch them they all but blotted out the memories if this horrid movie. the sad thing is without the stupid narration and with the characters from the show this movie would have been a fucking blockbuster. i dont know how Shyamalan could have possibly fucked this up. i have absolutely no experience with script writing or anything like it but if i had seen the cartoon first i could have done this movie better with only a little stretch on the time restraints for character development (the characters are what killed this movie for me or should i say the lack of character) i dont even blame the actors they just didnt have anything to work with. ok im gonna end my rant before it gets out of hand and im gonna end it with one word “INCEPTION”
XD Raging at all the Tai Chi.. I have not seen this film, nor do I intend to, but I can't imagine the tai chi will have been all that good; in the cartoon it works pretty well though. Tai Chi is often misrepresented as this entirely spiritual, Yoga-like meditative endeavor, when that's really not all there is to it. If you have a -good- teacher, tai chi is essentially Kung Fu with less acrobatics and more substance – the Chen style is the most similar to Kung Fu, but the Yang style probably has the most depth. There's nothing stopping you from playing around with the principles in partner exercises, i.e. Pushing Hands, and eventually going on to things like chinese kickboxing and full-on wrestling. Very few people actually do so, but that doesn't mean tai chi has to be all wavy hands and nice circular motions. That's not even mentioning the sword fighting, which is extremely practical and much more lethal than say, Kendo (and if villagers in ancient china had to learn to defend themselves they wouldn't have 30 years; with dedicated effort you can get the basics down pretty quickly).
Man Spoony, you REALLY need to watch the show. Not only is it better than the crappy movie, but it really is one of THE best cartoons out there today. Well, actually now it's all re-runs because the series is finished, but it is still REALLY, REALLY AWESOME. So check it out, you'll forget all about the crappy movie! OH YEAH, IT'S THAT GOOD!!!
Personally I don't care if it was the greatest movie of all time, Uwe Boll will never get even a cent of my money.
i never shared the prominent rage against uwe boll. his movies are bad, well, there are lot of bad movies out there, though bolls “house of the dead” was a funny, stupid, flick. you can watch it, it dont hurt that much. or is it that he exploit public funding (often called tax holes) for his movies? that´s capitalist society, government policies. so hate the game not the player. altough public funding is not a bad thing itself, so blame uwe boll, i dont know. i would like to see bolls work judged by a more “objectiv” standard. thats no apologia, but most of the time its just rambling for the sake of rambling. point
I've always wondered why I seem to be the only person in the world who's noticed Shyamalan's habit to have actors over emotionalize tot he point their performances turn dry.
The review of Rampage makes it sound like the much despised “twist” was basically from Die Hard. “No, we're not robbing the place!!! We're terrorists taking hostages, which is waaaaay worse!!! No, really!!!” Except in Rampage it's a mass murder spree to cover a robbery.
Jeez, I must have watched the Air Bender part of this review at least 3 times already. It's so much fun watching you rage on crappy movies.
Jeez I must have watched the airbender part of this Vlog 3 times already. It's so much fun watching you rage on bad movies.
Hopefully haven't heard this too many times, but anyone who's seen the cartoon understands that the all the Tai Chi during the bending scenes was kind of the point. In the world of the cartoon, Bending isn't so much a super power as it is a learned art; the martial arts moves are necessary to bend the elements, so while all the complex, seemingly cheoregraphed movements that the characters made before bending wasn't extraneous: it was just how bending works. In fact, each of the types of bending are based on real world martial arts: Waterbending is Tai Chi, Earthbending is Hung Gar, Firebending is Shaolin Kung Fu, and Airbending is Ba Gua. Of course, I don't fault you for not knowing any of that and pointing out how rediculous all the Tai Chi looked, because, despite all the exposition, Shyamalan wasn't able to convey such an essential aspect of the universe he was filming, that Bending=Martial Arts.
Also, concerning the Anime vs. cartoon thing: It DOES matter, at least to the hardcore fans. Anime, ie. animation from Japan, is a multi-genre, multi-demographic medium. Unfortunately, in America, the perception is pretty widespread that animation is strictly for kids. So along comes Avatar, an American cartoon, that is actually a high quality, sosphisticated, entertaining, genre-busting production, that appeals to older audiences as well as kids. As such, the distinction that it is an American cartoon as apposed to an anime is an important one to make.
Finally, I encourage you to check out the cartoon. The writing is 1000 times better, the characters are fleshed out and you give a damn about what happens to them, and the action scenes are really good, and bending is used much more creatively.
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But the show makes it so much less stupid. It's really more like an actual fight in the show, but with the elements added in, so it's like “I just kicked you in the face, and now I'm going to throw you 100 feet in the air with this pillar of rock that I just shot out of the ground” instead of, well, what happened
And Netflix has the show on instant watch, I hadn't seen it since it came out, and it worked as a much needed brain bleach for the movie. And I agree with all of your points
Dude, now because you've reviewed the movie you are morally obligated to check out the TV Show. It's awesome. I haven't seen any animated show produced by American television as good as Avatar: The Last Airbender in a very long time. It's up there with X-Men and Spawn. Please watch the show, and you'll realize even more how God awful The Last Airbender was.
P.S. Azula was introduced in the last bit of the last episode of season 1, much like in the movie (not defending the movie, just saying) and the emperor was played by Mark Hamill and the douchebag general by Jason Isaacs. Their voice acting talent alone is worth checking the series out. Plus in the tv show you never actually saw Firelord Ozai's face until the third season and his role was quite limited.
I saw Rampage yesterday and I have to say that I don't agree with you. I didn't see any problems at all with the ending.
The movie portraits two different kind of extremisms: - Evan is a left wing extremist, he talk about socialism: all men are equal, money corrupts the world, we are too many so we have to work together to consume less.- Bill is a right wing extremist, he talk about neo-fascism: not all men are equal, we are too many so we have to eliminate the people that doesn't deserve to use the resources, like “people in the third world countries or cancer patients”.
So the ending makes perfect sense: it's NOT a robbery masked as a mass murder. It's not even a robbery in his mind. “Survival of the fittest” he says at the beginning of his rampage. He “deserve” the money because his the strongest. As he says at the end, he “cleans the world” and “take the resources”.
(I apologize for my english. I'm italin, I'm not used to write in english)
the last air bender movie was fucking shit but the series was great there were alot of really good twists in it and the humor would be very silly and kid like but then there were hole episodes with a very dark tone and good dark humor and the season enders were great if you ever get netflix spoony i wold say give it a watch it is all on newflixs instans streaming
I think he took the money to fund more ammunition and supplies.
Anyhow, Uwe Boll finally made a good film!
Shyamalan on the other hand has received Boll's curse and is now doomed to make crap films!
House of the Dead was so bad it gave me a migraine. No joke.
Is the Last Airbender honestly that bad? Ive seen some of the trailers for it and it makes it look like a good watch… But is it seriusly that disapointing?
thats bad, im sorry for you. lucky i am i never get migraine seeing a boll movie. not even when watching alone in the dark. though i got rage issues when i saw Soul Plane (2004). this movie is filled with racial stereotypes, makes me think of it as a propaganda movie of the kukluxklan. in fact, in my eyes, it is a propaganda movie from the klan. … and i like snoop dog
if evan is socialist minded, why he works together with a considered right wing extremist? well, on the other hand that wouldn´t be that unusaual, considering that socialism comes in different forms, expressing the social needs of different classes (their layers) in different times and countries. some “socialist” would do that while other not. or to rob a bank at all, thats not strenghten the class consciesness of the working class, so evan is more an anarchist. i wonder if boll potrays this more exactly. in that case the movie would attract my interest.
Well if you are going to watch the show you have to keep in mind that it aired on nickelodeon, so it is a good show but at any point where there is comedy or subtlety they have to ruin it for the sake of the kids who otherwise wouldn't get the joke. Lots of wah wah tones and “That's our Sokka!” moments that make you want to headdesk.
Noah, watch the cartoon. Its worth it and you will understand.
M Night should of made season one into three movies but for the target audience and time frame. I don't think its that bad. Of course this is coming form someone who loved the series.
I'm sure you're going to get plenty of people explaining the martial arts aspect of Avatar to you, and many of the other things you've just mentioned, so i won't go there. Just please watch the cartoon, it really is better. The movie did nothing for it. D:
I've Seen Rampage on the computer and I too had to admit it is an okay movie and Ive seen Last Airbender on the Internet too and its so bad it makes the Transformers 2 worth watching!!!
Question: You are captured by Terroists and they ask you to watch a movie, you had to choose either The Last Airbender or Transformers 2 you have 10 sec. or else they kill you. Which will it be???
Dude its SOOOOOOOOOOO Bad it topped my list of Worst Movies knocking Transformers 2 to Second Place
He doesn't “work” with Bill. He's just a friend. At the end of the movie it's clear that the rampage and the robbery are all Bill's ideas. He is just his scapegoat.
that's 20 episodes, miles.
Batman Begins Had sequel bait, it worked
“Browns and beige. Earth tones people.” Love the Mr. Plinkett reference.
I liked the last Airbender XD
I have way too many problems with it, but I still liked it.
I hated Zhao because they actor they got for him was a total pussy.
As for the Tai chi comment… funny enough the element fighting styles are based off of actual martial arts styles, so of course they are doing Tai chi XD
The thing about the blue spirit thing, is that that episode happened in the SECOND season. But another thing actually was that his idenitity was revealed in the same episode he was introduced in XD
You make a great point that they shouldn't have done the mini-episodes thing though, that is one of the reason it fails.
But what's funny Spoony, is a lot of the things you hate is stuff that actually happens in the series, like the plan to kill the moon spirit, and the bending XD
I'm trying to not be a broken record, since all the obsessed fans are probably chewing you out for details, but I find it funny though that you have problems with things in series.
One thing you forgot to mention is that Zhao revealed he got the scroll from the great library like five times XD So that one line you liked is total epic because he all ready explained it XD
And you were wrong about Eragon and John Malkovitch, He was one of that bad things of that movie. Though that movie will always be a piece of shit in my eyes.
You were around about the daughter because she was in the exposition scene about the princes past where they show the fight XD she was smiling creepily. XD
I love Sorcerer's Apprentice! Go see it and access your own opinion, it's cheesy, but really good and Nick Cage is awesome in it :D
Air bender's are based off of Buddhists monks XD
Another thing about race is that the main kids grandma was white because she's from the northern water tribe which was white in the movie XD So I think personally that kinda kind of worked XD
But the casting for the races was messed up
Transformers 2 is bad too!?!? Man, I need to get to the cinema more often. I seem to be behind the times a bit. lol
Dude you need to watch the actual tv show. It was actually really well done. The characterization was great, the story was thought out and it was actually emotionally driven. I would definatly recommend the tv show to anyone, I never got to finish the series due to money constraints at the time dictating no cable so I missed most of Book 2 and all of Book 3. But I really want to pick it back up again. But yea watch it. Fuck the movie, I wont waist my money on it. M Night is a fucking moron and I refuse to give him my money. Never have and never will.
Watch it on youtube or animefreak.tv, but there’s many online sites you can watch the series from. I have Nicktoons Network and it comes on there.
I agree with Miles, in that this movie needs to be rewritten in a more three-act format. As I understand it, M. Night Shyamalan wrote the adaptation, selected the child actors himself, and directed the movie, as if condensing 20 half-hour episodes into a 102 minute film wasn't enough of a challenge to focus on. He used all that exposition to cheat the audience out of character-developing scenes, no doubt for the sake of time. He basically gutted the spirit right of the original series and tried to fill it with his own half-baked sentimentality, disrespecting his source material in the process. IF they make Book 2: Earth, they shouldn't let Shyamalan anywhere near it. They should; handle it like they did the Hulk movies, do it again and do it right. The story and the fans deserve it
Looks like you guys were wrong about one thing: there will be a sequel to Airbender. As horrible as it is, it's already generated over 140 million dollars, essentially guaranteeing there will be a second flick. There is no justice in the world.
ok, i'm sure this has been said before, but the series is so much better than this movie. i'm serious, if you were a fan of the source material, oh you'd be pissed the fuck off dude. it's like they took The Lord of the Rings as the source of a movie, and gave us Batman and Robin, it's like one extreme to the other. and the saddiest thing is, there has to be two more; there are three seasons, what shyamalan did was condense [horribly] the first season. basically he took out the humour, the character development, and the charm to give us the movie [oh, and the logic, the scene where the earthbenders are in the POW camp, in the series, they're placed on an oil rig as far away from earth, and THATS why they can't rebel!] i could slightly forgive shyamalan if he's never seen the source, but he's admitted to being a fan! he watches it with his kids! he owns the series! [anger rising, must stop talking]
From what I can tell, the trailer I saw, and the synopsis I read I have come to a conclusion. This movie does absolutely NO justice to the series from amny reasons, but i'm just going to mention the ones that really got to me. One is that Shylaman obviously didn't watch the series. The movie doesn't follow any of the actual details the series showed to explain the things you are mentioning. Ex: The scroll that the general had when they were attacking the north water nation or whatever they renamed it, in the series they explain that the general found it when he was a lieutenant during a raid of a temple in the Earth nation. God I could go on and on, but for wanting to not kill myself I will stop there. All in all Shyamalan= dumbass this movie= shit.
i saw the sorcerers apprentice. its really good. id watch it
If anyone is still wondering, Southern Water Tribe are based on inuit people Katara and Sokka (pronouced Sak-ah) are not that white although paler than the other village people. The earth kingdom represents China (diversity, large land mass, large capital) and the fire nation represent Japan (more technology advanced with a horrible appetite for expasion). Also the airbenders are monks, possibly represetning tibetans monks (not sure). These are just the sources which the creators of animated show most likely drew upon. Sadly Shyamalan's cut out the wrong things while keeping things that could of gone (also the horrible repition of plot points like Spoony mentioned). All said it's almost impossible to fit 10 hours of story, devolpment, and depth in 1 hour and 40 min.
Believe it or not, I actually watch the bootleg with my sister and terribly picked apart the movie. The first question I asked when I watched the preview was…WHY ISN’T AANG ASIAN?! I was trying to not be a racist but it kept coming up when I saw Katara, Sokka, and Zuko. The guy who played Zuko didn’t even have a scar on his face, and he over brooded the character. I am so surprised you actually picked up on it. Even if they were trying to make the characters universal, the actors were horrible! Absolutely horrible!
Dude, it's so sad. Really. I had such high expectations for The Last Airbender, but, really, The Sorcerer's Apprentice was lightyears ahead of Airbender.
The studio only gets to keep about 55% of the box office gross. The movie needs to make $300 million to break-even and at least $400 million to make any real profit. The way it's dropping it won't even make $135M domestic and so far it's struggling overseas. It's a bomb in Asia (Gee, I wonder why?). Paramount will be lucky if this movie makes it to $280M worldwide. It's going to eventually make a profit with video, cable and network sales, but, it's not going get a sequel. No profit from it's theater run plus bad audience reaction = BAD INVESTMENT! There's no way anyone is going to finance a sequel.
They never say that she's from the north in the movie though. Besides, Katara and Sokka should only be 1/4 white since Gran-gran married a man from the south.
It's the Fire Nation, Water Tribe, Earth Kingdom, and Air Nomads… YAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!! I'm a bigger nerd than Spoony!!! :D
It's the Fire Nation, Water Tribe, Earth Kingdom, and Air Nomads….. YAY!!! I'm a bigger nerd than Spoony!!!
Too be fair, the cartoon was awful too.
You cant put Ankh Morpork under siege , the gates are always open.
Another strange case of Uwe's actual talent for writing dialogue is the first half of Tunnel Rats, about US soldiers who blow out Viet Cong tunnels. The first half has intelligent writing, the chemistry of the soldiers is top notch, but it melts into a pile of shit halfway through, when the soldiers stop talking and its just about dying horrifically. I'm surprised he edited Rampage himself, I'm almost sure he had to have used someone else, shitty directors have been known to have their asses saved by amazing Editors, the unsung heroes of movie making.
This was the worst movie I have ever gone to the theater to see, and for the love of god I went twice. I never saw the show before but after watching this piece of crap I had the chance to watch some of it and was amazed at how much better it was, it wasn't incredible or anything but it far surpassed this “film”. also regarding the princesses penis hair, how could they possibly of picked that up off the cutting room floor they must have made it looked like that on purpose there is no way that was accidental.
I haven't seen Rampage yet, but Uwe Boll's Postal was actually quite good imo if you can enjoy politically incorrect humor ;-)
One interview I read with M. Nigh described his inspiration for The Sixth Sense, that it was from an episode his kids watched of the old show Are You Afraid Of The Dark? on Nick. It's the one where some kids were told a story about a haunted graveyard. The kids go to the haunted graveyard seeing the ghost and of course, get scared, but the twist at the end is you find out the kids were the ghosts. He's never really had any original ideas.
IMDB: His inspiration for The Sixth Sense (1999) was based on an episode from “Are You Afraid of the Dark?: The Tale of the Dream Girl (#3.10)” (1994) directed by David Winning.
Makes me wonder if Unbreakable was an original idea. Maybe he should have used the Airbender story as an inspiration as well, instead of just trying to replicate the series.
On a side note, Spoony, how have you not yet made an “Avatar: The Last Spoonbender” poster?
On a side note, Spoony, how have you not yet made an “Avatar: The Last Spoonbender” poster?
If I had the time to scan the comments and see if this was already argued, I would, but alas I don’t. So I’m going to say it and if it has been said, just ignore it. >_>
There’s actually just one point I want to argue. You were criticizing the part where the earthbenders were working in perfect sync when the fighting started and that had to planned out beforehand. To be fair, if they’ve been earthbending for years, they’re used to working in sync with other benders to perform tasks that a single bender couldn’t do under normal circumstances. You see it a lot, at least in the anime, with quite a few of the cities like when Aang and co. reach the Northern Water Tribe, you see the guys on that ledge working together to raise the water wall and freeze it behind them. That and bending in general is usually learned with groups of people, so moving in sync probably occurs pretty easily.
As for all the wild movements… I’ll say I think you’re right. It was really excessive. Even in the anime, they didn’t do that much swinging around and jumping. They usually did things in fairly simple motions, or if there were more motions, it was better reflective of what they were doing with the element. Waterbenders’ movements are more fluid, Earthbenders much more stable. Airbenders don’t seem to require quite as much movement, as we see Aang just move air simply by breathing or blowing and firebender’s movements are quick and striking. I can’t quite place what martial art each element reminds me of, but you should be able to tell a bender apart from others by how they move without even actually seeing them do bending.
This movie? There was none of that distinction. Everyone moved the same way (except for the waterbenders, but they were exaggerated so badly it’s painful >_> ) and was jumping around. It was stupid.
What’s that? You’re stupid and I shouldn’t listen to you? Okay, if you say so.
I’m legitimately worried that Shyamalan is going to fund the next movie personally or some shit like that.
ohh burn by your brother. “its like a actual film maker worked on this” XD
I just got through watching Rampage and it was pretty good, I mean I couldn’t believe that Boll made this, this is the same guy who made Blood Rain and In the name of the king. If Boll can keep it up I am pretty sure that his movies can go into movie theaters. I still haven’t seen Last Airbender and I damn sure don’t want to. Angry Joe said that the show is the shit and it is the shit. I am a fan of the show but a big fan so I refuse to watch this movie. I already saw Dragon Ball Evolution and that movie make you want to go on Rampage. they could have just put the entire series in theaters and split it into 4 parts, just put the show in theaters and that would be a lot better. Great review Spoon and btw; when you see Aung the A is long sound not short sound. watch the show Spoony, IT IS A LOT BETTER
I like that you quoted plinkett
I like that you quoted Plinkket
Captain Exposition, eh? I think I like that. Thanks for the Halloween costume idea!
yes watch the Cartoon to see the fail that the movie really is
Think of a show where everything in it is important
That’s Avatar the Last Air bender
The Last Airbender movie made me depressed because I’m pretty sure it will drive people away from the excellent show… URGh Rampage sounds semi interesting
I vote Last airbender to be far worse than Transformers 2. At least Transformers 2 had good special effects and interesting fighting scenes, which there were none of in this movie, who’s with me?
i think the problem with Transformers 2 was it threw too much stupid little crap at us, though the main plot line and what not is still good (not great mind you) and the third one looks a bit better.
M. Nights Avatar was shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit*breathes* shit shit shit shit crucify him shit shit shit.
HAHA i love the Tzeentch quote about the airbender. “Just as Planned”
The movie really did not do the show justice…at all. Whereas the show had political commentary and legitimately badass and feasible martial arts and bending, the movie has racial controversy and senseless punching and kicking and whatnot. Where the show had a legitimately funny comic relief (Sokka, believe it or not), this one has him as a grim and cynical face of stone whose first scene suggests that he’s about to beat the hell out of his sister. While the show had Aang as a childish, nostalgic victim of circumstance, the movie has him as a god awful….something.
In short, M. Night Shyamalan raped this series. He raped it hard.
Agreed. The series is really good, although YMMV. But the movie… *sighs* Hollywood really shouldn’t try and adapt series/games/books straight. An abreviated version of the series could have worked, if they captured the spirit of the series first season, instead of trying to squeeze EVERYTHING, including the kitchen sink, into it.
THis is going to sound like I’m defending that gigantic turd, but when they did the “evil daughter” reveal at the end of The Last Airbender you actually DO see her once before. In a flashback. That one where the prince is about to get burned or whatever, the camera cuts to his sister for all of five seconds.
Actually Spoony, even though you may not like anime, Avatar: The Last Airbender animated series is not an anime, but besides that, it was actually a somewhat serious series for a Nickelodeon cartoon. A lot of the themes revolve around genocide and racism, but that’s beside the point right now. You may have actually liked the series, not criticizing you, but the series actually was good, and even the graphic novels are good as well. N. Night Shaymalan needs to go back to school or just write novels. I did watch the Happening and I laughed my butt off because it was so unrealistic. Plants and wind? Really?! With this piece of crap movie, I hated all the actors, and the fact that even though it was supposed to be like Book 1, it was completely inaccurate. If I were to point out all the inaccuracies I would be here all night. Spoony, really all the benders do all different types of martial arts, and I get your annoyance, and each bending type has a different type of martial arts, and it’s annoying that the only used one. The person that played Zuko was way too angry, and I wish Shymalan would stop taping in Philadelphia because he’s making the city look bad. He could’ve did so much better.
Anime: in english, a generic term for animated series/movies from asia, in particular from Japan. In Japan, ALL animation is called anime, including imported western animated movies and cartoons.
Is it really such a big thing that he called Avatar an anime? It’s just semantics.
I disagree about Rampage. I loved it and I didn’t find it to shift focus at all. He talks about his financial problems from the start, which explains why he wants the money. His friend tells him to stop getting deliveries to his home, because his dad has started to complain, explaining how the parents know who’s behind it all. And he takes the money, not only because he wants to get out of his current situation, but because he wants to fund his next rampage. Thats how I interpeted it at least. Think abou it, he hates people, not a specific group, but ALL people. How is he going to go on another rampage without any money? So I disagree on a lot of points. Nothing is left unexplained or unmotivated. Thats how I felt at least.
M.Night’s Avatar does not reflect the quality of the show it was supposed to represent. Don’t dismiss it because of this tragic cinema train wreck. Just sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist.
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice was somewhat better than Airbender, but that’s a damn low bar. It was a typically mediocre Disney film at best. The plot was pretty derivative, and the special effects were all “been there done that”. Nic Cage did what he always does, look and talk like he needs a scotch (so why he was chosen to play an ancient and wise sorcerer is a mystery to me). The same with Monica Bellucci, i.e. be the movie’s requisite exotic female lead. Jay Baruchel did what he does best (i.e. be the awkward nerdy everyman character), which he does better than Shia la Beef; he actually is a decent actor. Alfred Molina really stole the show, however, with his purposefully over-the-top villain routine (in the same vein as Raul Julia’s depiction of M. Bison); he was probably the most talented actor in the movie, and I really wish they’d have given him more screen time.
It’s possible to play shooting movies as dark comedy – especially if shot from the perspective and mindset of the killers. If you try going too serious (bang bang your dead, or god forbid, elephant) you’ll end up unintentionally funny. Some humor doesn’t hurt especially if the killer is having fun while doing or planning something horrific. That said why make it heist movie? maybe he wanted the money to buy guns to kill more people lol
isnt bill williamson the same name of the guy you hunt down in red dead redemption?
After watching the red band trailer for Rampage, I was seriously disturbed and I don’t want to see it!!!!! Horror movies are a little numb to me and the onslaught of Holocaust movies has even made me a little numb to it. I was disturbed by Rampage because it’s modern and it happens in a random town in real life. That is REALLY scary. I don’t know how long the “rampage” happens, but I could take more than the trailer!!!!
Miles Antwiler: FUNNIEST. COP. EVER.
HATED THIS MOVIE: also, its pronounced AAAng not ohng… hard A sound :P
I’m not gonna lie, man. I wish you’d made these separate Vlogs. I didn’t really care much about the Rampage stuff, cause I really don’t give a rat’s ass about Boll these days. Even if you didn’t hate this one… I really just wanted to see the Airbender commentary. :D Ah well.
I Really like Rampage, even thou going in i thought it was going to be terrible. Also once you started talking about Avatar I had to stop watching. Mostly because i loved the show, and hated the movie with a passion, and if u liked i had rather not know.
Are we sure this wasn’t supposed to be a terrible video game movie? After all Rampage was an arcade game about giant monkeys, lizards, and rats destroying cities made in the 80s I believe. Just saying.
Hey, don’t forget later Rampages. There’s Rampage World Tour on the N64 and a new Rampage on the Wii (which wasn’t really all that bad, it even included the arcade and N64 Rampages on disc).
I went to Ank Mor-Pork once. It was a nice place to visit.
You should totally watch the cartoon. It was fun and had a lot of heart, and a lot of wit as well. And for some reason, M Night decided to throw everything fun about it into the trash when he made the movie.
I didn’t notice much acting talent in the old water-bender guy… in my opinion, the random background people and the Fire Nation guy who gave all the exposition were the best actors. Despite the fact that that guy was played by Aasif Mandvi, a correspondent on “the Daily Show with Jon Stewart” whose presence in this borefest of a movie totally astounds me.
the cartoon is not that great, but yes is a lot better, it has a anime stile
The scary thing was that The Last Airbender was supposed to be the first in a trilogy, each one being based off of a season from the show. Thank fucking GOD that didn’t happen, one terrible movie is enough.
The cartoon is really, really good especially compared to most cartoons out nowadays
especially compared to most cartoons out nowadays
“Always remember the saying of Heraclitus, that the death of earth
is to become water, and the death of water is to become air, and the death
of air is to become fire, and reversely.”
- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
Spoony: The movie “The Last Airbender” is absolute shit. It is hardly faithful to the show, which is an absolute masterpiece. I’m not that fond of anime, either, (I’ve seen a lot of series for anime, but I have loved very few) but I still adore the Avatar series. I think you would like it too. It’s cheesy at times, but all anime/cartoons are. As for the plot holes/shit-ton of exposition, absolutely EVERYTHING makes perfect sense in the show. I don’t think M. Night Shyamalan even watched the show, he just read the synopsis on Wikipedia and decided to make it a movie.
By the way, most of the names are pronounced wrong in the movie.
Aang = long “A” sound, as in “boomerANG.”
Iroh = “Eye-row,” not “Eee-row.”
Sokka = “Sock-a,” not “So-kuh.”
To name a few.
The names in the film are more acurate to Chinese pronucation. Still stupid
But not all of the names are supposed to sound Chinese, like Sokka’s. And in some cases the movie got the pronunciation wrong, like Zhao.
Ironic how Shyamalan’s most successful movie was “inspired” by a Nickelodeon show and his worst movie was an adaptation of a Nickelodeon show. I suppose his career has come full circle.
Shyamalan did watch the show; that’s why he wanted to direct the movie so badly. The problem is you can’t put an 8 1/2 hour show into a 2 hour movie. Sounds like they cut all the beautiful character development from the series. Did he really cut out Sokka’s line about he and Yue could ”do an activity together?” He was so cute and awkward in that scene! Also, Zhao’s plan of killing the moon spirit was seen as insanity by the rest of the army. Oh, the North Pole sequence in the series was epic.
I tend to stay away from shonen-style anime (Dragonball Z, Yugioh, Pokemon, Naruto, etc.) and harem (Love Hina, School Days, etc) and stick mostly with adult anime and I’ve been extremely satisfied. I find more anime that I enjoy than live-action films–Kino’s Journey, Haibane Renmei, Gankutsuou, Baccano, Twelve Kingdoms, Whisper of the Heart, Planetes, Mushi-shi, Now and Then Here and There, Samurai X, etc. None of these anime are “cheesy.” JesuOtaku believes that making fun of Now and Then would make her fear for her immortal soul. No hasty generalizations about anime, please. They’re all likely to be wrong. (Big eyes? American animation have big eyes. Some anime like Texhnolyze, Shigurui, Ergo Proxy, Darker than Black, Wolf’s Rain, Boogiepop Phantom, don’t.)
My problem is never that people don’t watch anime–it’s that they see only the bad shonen ones and don’t realise how much excellent, mature, unique anime there is. You wouldn’t judge The Godfather based on Police Academy 5; similarly, you can’t judge Gankutsuou based on Naruto.
BTW, Avatar is not anime, though visually, it is styled after Hayao Miyazaki films and Fooly Cooly.
Avatar is excellent on all counts. It’s what children’s entertainment should be: great characters, solid writing, simple-ish story, excellent voice acting, and emotionally healthy themes. Sounds like the movie took all that away.
Watch the cartoon. Indeed, it is a cartoon, and it watches like one (doesn’t take itself nearly as seriously, and has much, much, much better writing). While there is a lot of martial arts, it isn’t nearly as focused, and there is a much better connection between that and the actual “bending.” Some good episodes to watch are “The King of Omashu” and “The Blind Bandit.” They are humorously written and have great characterization.
Another good reason is, although it only happens at the tail end of the series, the Emperor Ozai is played by Mark Hamill.
Golden Compass was a book, and the movie pretty much ends like the book. They didn’t really sequel-bait
The book ends with the main character’s friend being killed, and with her going through into the other world/dimension.
The films ends before that saying (and I am of course generalising it) “we’re going to do that think we were meant to do next!”.
Do yourself a favor and watch the cartoon. It is my personal favorite cartoon series of all time (I know that isn’t saying much but I’m actually an animation major so I’ve watched a few cartoons in my day).
Also, I don’t know if you already know this but Mako is the voice of General Iroh. I was always skeptical of the movie and when I finally saw it it was just as shitty as I predicted, but surprisingly funny too just by how idiotic it was. I couldn’t bring myself to finish the entire movie but there were three things I just rolled my eyes over.
1. We see Emperor Ozai almost at the beginning of the movie. In the cartoon, his face wasn’t revealed until the third season.
2. How in the hell were the fire benders able to take over the world if they couldn’t make their own fire? You would think the other benders would be able to smother the fire bender’s resource really easily and thus end the war.
3. The choreography is shiiiiiiiit. I laughed my ass off when the earthbenders (in that one prison which is a joke all by itself) did this whole dance routine and then a rock flies across the screen. WTF? Did they move it? Did someone else move it? It seemed like a lot of effort just to move one stinking rock.
Anyway, I could write an essay about this thing but I’ll stop here. Love your stuff, especially where you were talking about Breaking Dawn with Linkara and JewMario. It was hilarious how frustrated you were with this movie, I bet it’s better than the actual movie.
Agree so much
1) Why do people do that? It’s like putting the Emporer in A New Hope. It ruins any mystery, forces you to pay more for the actor and forces you to keep that actor free for new movies.
2) Nighty thought the fire benders would be over powered if they made their own fire. Maybe he was too scared of villains that are actually THEATENING since The Happening made no sense with its overpowered villain (RUN FROM THE WIND!!).
3) For me that fact is that it would work if the moves actually mirrored the movement of the elements. But it never does. They just do stupid poses and the bad special effect elements do something unrelated. This is not marial arts, it is just do pretty dances with no threat.
Don’t worry Noah i hate the ti chi too
last airbender 2 is coming, isnt it?
Nighty is producing it himself, so he doesnt have to worry about positive reviews or financial return.
i read this title and thought you were going to rampage on last airbender
LOVE the RedLetterMedia shoutout! Awesome
I could probably tolerate this movie on the grounds that I hate the cartoon series. Haaaaaaaaaate.
If Spoony likes improvisation he should review The Green Elephant/Green Elephant Calf. It’s russian but I think you can find subtitles for it/ It’s really good, like really really good.
Also, as far as I can remember the guy burned the real money and used fake for some reason(?) to finance his shitty cause. Also the guy isn’t raging against the machine or anything he just full of senseless hate and tries to find a reason for it but fails, but he still thinks it’s right and conveys that feeling to you, I mean somehow you don’t think the guy’s retarded.
I’m not sure if anyone explained this previously, but all of the bending styles were based on different styles of martial arts. It’s actually pretty cool. And yeah, watch the series. It’s well worth your time.
Did Spoony ever cleanse his palette of this crap with the cartoon?
The worst part about the Last Airbender Movie was that they failed EVERY basic aspect of the original show…thanks Shamalan…You have no right to make any more movies…EVER…*Airbender 2 gets announced* …EVER…AGAIN!!!!
He was a confused delusional idiot teenager. Why else do this shit?
Spoony, when you mentioned the water princess’ penis, that is exactly what I thought it looked like when I saw the movie in theaters!
ok, a few things here.
A. i think i must be the only person who watched this for the rampage review lol
B. im actually a pretty big fan of the movie so im gonna get nitpicky here.
first off, Bill was employed, albeit at a shitty job, and his parents did love him they just thought he was too old to still live at home, they clearly cared about him though. he also didnt seem to be nerdy gamer social mitfit as you described him, the point was not that he was picked on to the point of wanting to kill people like in columbine, the point was that he was intelligent, relatively normal person that was literally driven insane by the incompetance, stupidty, and apathy of society to the point that he wanted to destroy society.
second, you refer to him robbing the place as a “heist twist” and that wasnt it at all. robbing the place and pretending to burn the money was supposed to be part of his anti-establishment commentary and to show the people how apathetic they are to human life when they are horrified by burning money after he just shot people and they show no concern. said that the movie pulled a double twist by making it about population control. thats not the case. that point was forshadowed and practically stated outright in his conversation with his friend earlier andwas obsessing over his friend’s video about over-population.
third, relating to the last point, there was a reason why he stole that money. a quite simple one in fact. he planned on doing another rampage and since he left all of his armor and weapons behind hewould need money to resupply himself.
finally, at one point you compared the bingo hall scene to being a borat style scene that was unscripted. if you really think about the “message” of the movie the scene actually makes a lot of sense. again, it was meant to show society’s desensitization and apathy to what’s happening around them so much that they dont even noticed an armed and armored gunman walk in and take the time to eat, espescially when there has been gunfire that someone there is bound to have heard.
all in all spoony most of your stuff is awesome and you were right about saying holy crap uwe boll has done something good, which is so shocking it almost gave me a heart attack. however if you’re going to do a review i just ask that you pay a bit more attention to the plot details and use a bit of critical thinking to analyze it.
or of course, here i am applying critical thinking and logically analyzing a movie about a mass murdering gunman made by a shitty german director, so maybe im the crazy one. LMAO