Beware the sacrilege!!
cool vis spoony :)
Mazes and Monsters is a far out review
yeah the intro… No just no.
the vocals, yuck
I liked it as something different and the harder music fit with the whole satanism explanation in the beginning. Relax because I seriously doubt its permanent.
That opening's not permanent right?
love it when he just decides to kill himself… because.
Seems that the editing between the Spoony scenes and the movie scenes is a bit off.
Either way, I've been hoping for this one for a long time now, and it's as good as advertised. Thanks for another excellent review, Spoony!
I remember that comic you mentioned. The best part was when the the “hero” convinced her to give up her playing D&D, and then caused all of her rulebooks to burst into flames WITH HIS MIND!
I got cut out at the part with the “gem encrusted spikes”, but so far this has my sides splitting open. The opening was just hilarious because it's something we do live in. It's good now that actors aren't labeled as gay though that under-current is always there. I can't believe the paranoia of some people. I wonder what bad encounter they had with RPGs that made them viciously hate and seek to destroy them because I doubt these things stem from merely religious beliefs.
this is the funniest thing i've seen in a looong time. awesome work spoonster. oh and the opening…. bleh. it's cool to try new things but i hope that's not staying.
Penicillin WAS discovered by accident….
The volume editing seemed off when it cut between spoony talking and the film, with a 1-2 second lag.
And it cut off at the ” gem encrusted spikes” bit.
Funny video of what I can actually watch, and I quite like the intro, good to have a change for a while at least.
Typical of peoples inability to adapt to something new…Spoony, the new intro rocks! Way to keep things new and interesting! You the man!
I like the new OP!
Then again, I hate the “old” one.
Its hilariously ironic that he talks about people fearing something that's different and now we're going to get all kinds of people going apeshit because he changed the intro.
Great stuff, loved the Mass Effect 2 reference =)
I'm guessing you don't REALLY hate gays, do you? If so, that's grounds for BETRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYL!!!.
No, he’s just afraid of catching “The Gay”.
In all seriousness, I really, really doubt Spoony has any sort of gay hate, I mean I guy who’s that close to Benzaie must be open minded.
Jack's tattoos! Classic! Also, just an FYI the black hat with the white stripe was on backwards. Didn't know if you were going for that or not. But the dip goes in front.Awesome as usual, Spoony!
Good stuff, Spoony!
Ah, Jack Chick. That name brings back all sorts of unpleasant memories. On top of having to keep my gaming hobby secret from jocks and other ne’er do-wells, I also had to contend with the fact that many of my fellow gamers looked at me with shock and horror when they found out that I was/am a Christian. I’ve lost count of how many times I had to calmly explain that Chicky and his ilk represented a very small handful of vocal followers of a splinter Fundamentalist group (yes, you heard that right: a group so radical that even most avowed fundamentalist sects thought they were too bonkers to be associated with) who hated everyone who didn’t follow their specific sect, especially other Christians (for example, according to the tract writing fruitcake, Catholics and Episcopalians are worshipers of Satan who rule the Earth with the aid of the Illuminati and magic) .
Even to the present day, I still get flack for it and I still have to explain that.
It’s like my Pastor (who is also an avid tabletop gamer) once said: “When the Good Lord was doing character creation, I think he may have botched a few rolls when it came to Mr. Chick and his ilk.”
Oh come on, everyone knows god would use the point buy system of character creation!
After foreseeing munchkins min/maxing their way to total campaign derailment? I think the Creator would have been wary of something like that.
God makes everyones character sheets, he knows not to min max.
…. When Spoony talks about his school D&D experience… Am I the only one imagining people behind him yelling: “He's a witch! Burn him?”
My best guess?: Scapegoating.
Many parents don't want to admit their own part in a problem (real or imagined) they have with their offspring. So they blame something else.
Video games. RPGS. A circle of friends. Diego Maradona.
You get the picture.
Well, too much Maradona can make you go nuts…particularly if you’re English and see the “Hand of God” incident.
no me to thought that to
Wow that nu-metal alterna-rock intro song was horrible. I hope it's not a permanent change.
While I like the new song, I prefer the old one…either one will do me, I watch to see the reviews not the theme.
still think the more extreme nerds are the ones who go through tattoos to celebrate their geekdom. love all the hats btw. i never got into D and D, i was one of those chicks that played Warcraft for kicks. Also some Magic the Gathering.
couldn't help but laugh at how easily they just go to the caverns. when in the hell were Nerds so eager to leave their homes?? i mean shit.
about the whole intro thing. a little something different is cool. i didnt know it was a new version of your theme music til i paid attention to the lyrics. very nice. and yay everybody is STILL making fun of ….the guy who I cant remember his name *odd stare to camera*
A BiG Ric Flair WOOOO!!! I've been really looking forward for this vid. Great Job on the new intro too WOOOO!!!
I don't dislike it because it's new, I dislike it because it's bad. It sounds like every generic modern hard rock song on the radio nowadays.
It's a trap!
Great review Spoony, especially the throwback to Dragon Strike at the end there. Your enraged screaming about your degree in computer science and life in general had me rolling on the floor. Keep up the good work.
Great video, Spoony, nothing like going into the vaults and watching some old piece of fear mongering propaganda whose sole purpose is to instill fear and paranoia into the hearts of parents around the world. Ranks right up there with Reefer Madness; sure that one was just insane beyond belief, but when you remember that Mazes and Monsters was made in the frikin' 80's it some how makes it worse.
Saddly I was unable to get into the D&D crowd growing up; I loved the concept but none of my friends ever did it, and I didn't really know enough about it to start it up myself (though most of my friends would have just gotten bored and hopped onto the N64 or something in the middle of it….they had ADD). One of my nerd regrets in life was not getting into one of those at least once, but eh what are ya gonna do?
PS: Love the new intro theme, you should definitely keep it, forget what some of the others say, they simply fear change.
Wait the intials for the movie are M&M… just eat the movie. Anyway people are just paranoid eses.pecially about things that are different to themselves.
I really loved this review, Spoony. Everything from the long but meaningful steps you took in the beginning to lead us in, to the sweet, new, remixed opening, to the funny jokes used throughout. I really think your stuff's picking up with this review! It feels like it's been a while since your last movie/game review, but you sure made up for lost time!
Oh, and I love the occasional freak-outs you do in your reviews over random stuff… great stuff! The pics you find for the “Please wait” moments are classic as well! Keep up the good work! :D
I love the new opening. I WANT THAT SONG! I checked the website Living Illusions website and it's not listed…damn it!
Great review though.
My parents once got concerned about my D&D hobby. They asked me what was up, and I actually rented this movie to show them just how ridiculous their concerns were.
That's right, this film is so bad that it had the opposite of the intended effect, and convinced my parents that roleplaying games are harmless. No way could such a ludicrous plot have ANY basis in reality.
I thought that was the point. A girl gamer you discovered by accident and it was a “revolutionary” discovery, like with penicillin. I didn't get it as discovering “enter some amazing and complex invention here” by accident, go figure, but… yeah, penicillin.
I must say this is one of your best, Spoony.
People want to find something to blame because they refuse to believe that violence and perversion are a part of a normal human nature.
Spot on mate, absolutely spot on. There’s got to be something to blame otherwise we have to accept that we belong to a species capable of such acts of cruelty and violence.
I agree completely.
Wow, I really liked both the new / covered theme song and the review.
Oh I see, I took it as a reference to Lost.
Great review Spoony. Hail to the geeks.
When my mom found out I was playing D&D she joined the game n made a kick ass Thri Kreen. lol
I remember when I was a kid around 9 years old (I'm 29 now), that our english teacher one day came up with the idea of making groups and have us play D&D, you know, to have a bit of fun practicing it for a day instead of the “boring” classes so we liked it more, as english was the foreign language class for us.
Some kids didn't want to play and were flat out scared about it, because their parents had warned them about that game and how dangerous it was. Really, it was in the list of things parents warned their kids not to do. And I don't even want to know what exactly they told them, seeing that they were in fact scared and eager to comply.
I had never player D&D at that time either, but I know what it was about and I was one of the very few kids in that class trying to explain their class mates they were wrong and how the game worked. They were still scared as hell when we got them to finally play out of sheer peer presure. Sure, they realized it was silly at the end, but it was still very talk about at the school for a while, very surreal.… and the poor teacher was appalled that was the reaction he got with his “making a fun class” idea.
Heh heh heh, I like that comment about fighting over who the best MST3K host was. Whats there to even argue about. Mike fucking wipes the FLOOR with joel.
I know a couple nerds that can actually fight. I watched them kick some serious ass before at a couple parties.
Absolutely fantastic. Every time I deign to doubt Noah, he rebounds and makes a really great video like this. Even if the call backs to old gags were a bit thin, as a whole this was a wonderful piece of work. Top class.
That part about IT work going to India and China almost made me shit myself, awesome review! I also lost my last tech job to India. So I feel your pain.
FF8 drives you crazy and the first person you call is Benzaie Wiiseau?
My GAWD! Spoony's given into the Madness! But he does have a nice hat collection.
Lol, insect on the lens@19:40
Your intro was great and informative, Spoony. Even though I knew most of it it's still fun to hear. Now, you're not much older than me, so I can't believe people were still paranoid about D&D in the fucking 90's. I never really played, but I get the appeal, I mean hell I play Oblivion.
Your meltdown was hilarious too. Funny but also so so very true, the previous generation has fucked over our job security so bad.
Also is it bad I immediately recognized the Bayonetta music? Awesome gaaaame.
Hey, you gonna auction off any of those hats? I got my eye on that fedora :P
I hope the old song comes back…
You know, I was honestly waiting on Admiral Akbar to show up when the dude says “It's a trap!” Great review as always, and the final line was also awesome as well. “I kill people because it's the only way I can get an erection” right when you said that, the room where my relatives are all sitting got to the “awkward” level of quiet and so everyone heard it and my sister looks at me and says “What the hell are you watching?” and I only replied with “my childhood.” I love being a nerd.
I gotta say, best video to date. Everything seemed to mesh really well though I personally would have mentioned that the Great Hall was based on his long lost brother whose disappearance cause great grief and stress for the family. Yeah…I own the movie. I bought it because of the cover art. I bought a whole different bad movie than I thought I was.
I loved this even though I've never played D&D. Benzaie was great and I always love gunblade bits.
The new song itself is okay, I just think people (me included) are going to have a tough time at first watching a Spoony video without the “DUN DUN DUN DUN!” intro.
This is why I hate Disqus with a passion. It absolutely hated IE and anyone who won't sign up because they don't want to have to sign up to 50,000 different things. (Also, Open ID hates me.) Now I have to rewrite three paragraphs of text. Although the first one was only a sentence long.
I would like to push for the old theme version, please.
While I'm not going to defend radicalised rage against RPGs, I would like to add some perspective. According to an old tract I have (not Chick, the guy even puts down Christian rock as Satan's work), the problem wasn't the fantasy RPG itself, but what they saw as actual occultic symbols and concept in the work. Their desire was for D&D to create a completely original fantasy world (not even “lightening it up” or complaing about fantasy magic or monsters) without those symbols. The concern was that while not every gamer was part of a cult or selling their soul to Satan, actual cults would use the game as a recruiting tool, since their symbols and concept were right there and making it an easy sell. (Kind of like recruiting Christians with Voltron or something. Oh, you know that was tried. Sven clearly used the sign of the cross to break Hagar's illusion. You saw it!) So there's that.
Also, just because most World of Warcraft players aren't unbathed basement dwellers surviving only on Moutain Dew during 36 hour marathons until they pass out on the keyboard doesn't mean nimrods like that don't exist. Every stereotype in the world started from somewhere, even if it was a cultural misunderstanding (intended or innocent). There were warning signs that JJ there was going to go off the deep end, and if parents knew to look for it when they weren't turning their son's room into vector graphics without their permission (there are parents that dimwitted–thankfully mine are awesome unlike the ones in this movie) they may be able to help the kid (try bonding with them as a loving parent BEFORE they go bat-guano insane) and find a positive outlet for their issues, even if it turns out to be D&D.
So concerns can be genuine, if not misplaced. If you don't want to be judged too harsly, don't judge them too harshly. Not every critic is Jack Chick or Jack Thompson but if you treat them all that way none of you are going to make any headway on either side of the issue.
The hats almost killed me. Sooo~ funny.A very good review, Spoony! Never heard of this movie before. Neither did I play D&D until the age of 24.
Thank god almost everyone on TGWTG did a Tommy Wiseau joke by now. I'm glad, parodying him will finally be over (Getting quite boring by now.).
The new opening is nice though I find the old one a lot more appropriate for the show.
Spoony… please give Burton a dust :)
Oh. loved the hat bit and the part where Spoony went “off his meds”.
I liked the review, but the 9/11 joke kinda ruined the whole video for me. Apparently, you forgot about the car bomb attack on the WTC in 1993.
Interesting I have actually tried to watch this film earlier this month and fell asleep what a boring film
nice intro remix…
Robbie actually stops wearing weird hats after his character falls to his death; he instead wears really big hair for the rest of the movie.
“The concern was that while not every gamer was part of a cult or selling their soul to Satan, actual cults would use the game as a recruiting tool”
You know the whole Satanic cults/Satanic ritual abuse phenomenon throughout the 80's and 90's was a complete myth, right?
That doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. Just that it wasn’t as bad as it was thought to be. Like pretty much every other “phenomenon” that had parents scarred to let their kids play in the yard because of what they saw on the news.
Also your review is kind of out of order. The phone call takes place after all the interactions with the police, and the subway scenes take place after that.
great version of the title song!
Loved this review and I really like the new opening, awesome. I lost it when you snapped and had to take your meds. I also have to agree with you on one other thing, this movie is the second worst thing to ever happen to the World Trade Center.
It's a trap!!
I love that ending lol!
I can feel what you say Spoony. For many years (and still nowadays), D&D, Gurps and most of the classic table RPGs were considered dangerous and unhealthy here in Brazil. I can still remember, fresh in my mind, my mother forbidding me to play Gurps with my friends because it was a “dangerous” game that would make me into a murderer.
Don't worry Spoony, I'm sure Hanks' performance in the movie doesn't deter my experience with his movies. He'll always be Woody, Forrest Gump, and Robert Langdon to me!
Also, the “It's A Trap” clip from Return of the Jedi should've made this whole video because that's what the characters keep saying!
Damn what a nice intro!
Love the computer science degree rant. Still laughing at it.
Oh, and BTW, the facts i related happened in mid 90's. RPGs were getting strong here and those Evangelic douchebags the religious fanatic scum of brazil, were all predicting the end of times and burning RPG books and Magic decks in their cults. Oh boy…
lol love the ending.
MIKE WAS THE BEST! JOEL IS SMALL TIME!
Oh yeah, I went there.
(trying this again without the link)
So…, according to Spoony's closing credits, Mazes and Monsters is partially the property of “Procter & Gamble Productions”? That's either a really sly, subtle joke on his part, or one huge, heaping chunk of real-life irony,
(referring, of course, to the brew-ha over P&G's “satanic” logo which dogged them for many years.)
Well first I hear for ya greatly. I got my CIS degree in 2000 and then the internet bubble burst and all I got was “you don't have the experience” crud for every place I went with my computer degree. So I greatly feel your pain!
I was never a heavyset RPG player myself. My time was either playing nintendo or storytelling RPs online. The closest I ever got was Final Fantasy (Only got to disc 3 on #8) or The Legend of Zelda. So when I had a friend who was a heavy set Christian who started ranting on how D&D was so evil, I never figured out why. Anything can have its addiction. You just have to pace yourself. One that plays WoW knows that all to well!
But you are right, the media can take any scapegoat and blow it out of proportion. Remember when Columbine happened and the media has pinned Doom to blame just because the two boys made evil levels from the game? Or I bet Linkara knows very well that back in the 60's and 70's when a man (can't remember who) then tried to tell how Comic Books were dark and sending horrible messages to congress.
That man was Fredric Wertham. He was instrumental in getting the Comics Code Authority created. Back in the day, the CCA was really influential, seeing as newsstands wouldn’t carry comics without the seal, and the restrictions almost killed the comic industry.
Then stores showed up that cared more about money than the content of the comics, and the CCA is now just a sad little symbol of nostalgia.
D&D by idiots, for idiots. Truly, this movie is iconic of the paranoid mindset of people who fear that which they do not and refuse to understand. Which is a mindset I've never really understood, incidentally; if something scares you, isn't it in your best interests to try to understand it, not bury it in a load of obviously-false-if-you-comprehend-logic rhetoric? I just don't get why you'd want to scare yourself into borderline insanity instead of taking a well-reasoned approach and coming to some sort of understanding based in reality.
On an unrelated note, I swear Ripper's plot must've been based off of this thing. They make about as much sense as one another, if nothing else.
I laughed my arse off at the 9/11 joke.
You know I have been waiting for this review ever since you first mentioned M&M on Dragon Strike. And it was worth it. The gunblade scene alone had me laughing my ass off, and Tom Hanks trying to be a psychopathic killer and failing was worth the watch. Also judging by those comics you showed by that chic guy, It kinda makes the church out to be a bigger cult than the game he's accusing of satanism. I find that hilarious. Can't wait for the next vid, keep it up yeh great spoony wackjob.
Love how you're trying new stuff, but I don't think that theme song works for you. It's like having Johnny Depp be the Terminator. They're good by themselves, but not together.
Hilarious computer science rant. It'd be easy to take out India. Hell, it's so crowded, you could drop three rocks and it would kill 10 people.
And I had no idea you were a gay satanist. You free this Wednesday? =p
Of cause he’s not free on Wednesday, he’s playing Call of Cthulhu… did you not hear. Thursday however, I’m sure he’d be interested in joining you. Mind if I tag along? ;P
Spoony… The man of many hats :D
I've always wanted to try D&D but a few things stood in my way; the fact that there is a stigma that D&D players are weirdos, the fact that my parents didn't want me to be socially ostracized, and by the time I came of the age of things like that trading card games such as magic the gathering was more popular than D&D
Woah, what's with the new intro theme? Waaay too depressing for this.
I was tricked into buying a DVD of a 1980's TV movie based on the cover. The movie was Licence to Kill (not the 007 movie) and it had Denzel Washington on the cover. Big picture of Denzel in a suit with an image of firefighters putting out a fire that looked like a car bomb exploded in the background. It looked like an interesting drama. Instead, it was a poorly put together after school special that did nothing to convince people of the evils of drunk driving. Denzel wasn't even in the movie until the last 30 minutes and it did not even have a line as funny as “Beware the sacrilege!!”
Good review and Abismo Spoony was my favorite of the headgear
There's something that bothers me:In German translation “The Da Vinci Code” (the original book) was renamed “Sakrileg” what is of course german for “sacrilege” … that makes this movie kind of visionary I guess…
Like the intro theme cover. Sounded like Puddle of Mud doing a cover for “Break Me”. Kinda neat.
Anyway, in your original review you did for this I remember you saying Tom Hanks, to be fair, wasnt that bad as far as acting goes. I've seen this video at the store before. Its one of those “hey check out this movie this famous actor did before they were famous! You'll love it!” and you get it because you dont remember it and its one that your said favorite famous actor was in you dont have. Thats how I got “Copper Mountain” and let me assure you as movies goes, thats much worse.
Anyway, ya Chick tracks were the reason I wasnt allowed to play D&D as a kid. I was lead to believe as a child that D&D was evil and I would be possessed by demons if I played it. Its silly of course but I didnt know anyone that played D&D as a kid so I never really played it to know better. To be fair I did play Magic many years later. I have that magic card you showed in the video still in my collection which is mostly 7th edition or whatever.
Anyway, great video. Makes me nostalgic for… the weird days when it was widely more topical to discuss how evil D&D was. No, I take it back, I dont miss that at all. It was incredibly an weird time though.
Tom Hanks anticipated his bad hairstyle in that movie? XD
angry joe is an illegal alien lmao!!
Not liking the new intro, sounds like really generic rock.
I love the munchkin commenting about the campaign :p. Jewel encrusted spikes, loot the hell out of those!
“We would be playing at a more sophisticated level. I propose we play Mazes and Monsters…” on motorcycles XD
Geesh, if they really wanted to turn people away from D&D they just should had made the D&D movie thirty years earlier.
and I liked the old opening song better, this one started out good but half way through it became way too slow like it was dragging on
Nice. It's weird how anti-D&D hysteria just seems to never go away…
BTW, very appropriate shirt, considering the material you're reviewing.
That clip has been very over used though, so I understand why he wouldn't use it.
NAY FELL DEMON! Joel was best.
when I was younger my Grandmother told me some BS story about my uncle and D&D and made me swear to never play itso up until college I stayed away for fear of not the “evil” my grandmother warned me but pissing her off and getting HER wraththen I found out how bullsh*t the story was and that she didn't even remember telling me it…
so of course I joined my first 2nd Ed campaign almost instantly as a half-elf cleric who ends up having to give her blood to another character because he'd been cursed by her full elven blood uncle
can't tell who came out ahead in all of that lack of knowledge…
they used to bust Magic the Gathering kids for gambling at my high school… personally I thought they should just let them waste their money on buying and trading the cards, meant less cash for pot
I liked the “smell the bodies in the streets” line for 3rd Ed XD
I'd say 3rd, there was a bombing there as well….then again, it's a really shitty movie. Hmmmmm.
Alright, make it a tie between the Bombing attempt and this Movie for second since it is kinda hard to choose
I blame the Nostalgia Critic's Warriors of Virtue video for that!
Awesome review ^^Btw, Spoony… You should shave :P
WoW, sounds like your from some form of backwater country still living like medieval times. Oh wait…
I had it much easier ^^, dident have to hide me and my firends played DnD. Might be cos we played sometimes with freinds/brothers that was 4-5 time older then us. And large portion of our population is murdering childeating satanists… I meen atheists.
Ugh, the new opening song… Do not want! I liked the old one much better. :(
Yeah, I remember that too… fortunately, we had administrators who would actually listen when we said we weren't playing for ante. Most of the time, anyway.
For some reason, they never busted the kids playing dice in the boys' room, though…
yeah… dice is fine but not Magic… weird
as much as I like CCGs I stayed away from Magic, mostly for the money sink aspect. A few friends brought cards to trade with one of the teachers… with all those boxes they must have had a few hundred, each… uh no I’ll trade stuff nobody plays instead XD
Thank you, Spooni-wan, it is nice to see someone refrain from using the usual Star Wars clip after a character says “It's a trap.”
Good review. So, when are you going to publish another of those shitty 70s/80s movies?
The Spoony One shaves when the time is right; he is never late, nor is he ever early.
Dig the Dead Alewives reference. The Dungeons and Dragons sketches are hilarious!
Would've been too obvious to use it.
Great review Spoony, what a completely pointless movie. His sudden switch from normal geek to batshit insane was a little jarring and nonsensical. The real moral is don't play games with Tom Hanks because he's off his rocker, if he lost a game of Mousetrap he'd probably Rube Goldberg the muggers to death.
Too much whining about the theme change…..really people? Is the theme song SO important? I watch for the content, not the fucking intro, it seems some people just need a reason to bitch. Any reason will do, so long as they can bitch about something, relevancy matters not.
Well, the old theme song was really awesome, and it came as a bit of a surprise to hear a cover. And people aren’t really bitching, they just want the old version back.
The Spoony one never shaves. His beard just simply falls off of his face :D
The Johnny Dep-inator…….that movie MUST be made.
Hell yes. I’ll give Uwe Boll a call. >=)
Jack's tattoos? Was that a Mass Effect reference?
I think Spoony would look majestic with a beard.
Bloody good video Spoony. Was well worth the wait. Even though we all know you could have done it sooner if you weren't playing so much video games ;)
Mazes & Monsters it a far-out review! Swords, poisons, spells… hats.
Holy shit! I really hope the phone booth scene wasn't the inspiration for the phone booth scene in American Psycho.
I almost saw this film as a kid. Good thing the video was screwed up. Great review Spoony One.
First of all hilarious review. You did a great job tearing the movie apart and analyzing it. I thought this was one of your best movie reviews in awhile and it held my attention throughout and made me laugh quite a bit. Loved Benzaie's little cameo as well. Also your lamenting your degree was a nice touch and was quite hysterically funny. I also had the card game problem in my school. Some friends and I played Hearts early in the morning and we got in trouble for 'gambling'. Back in Middle School playing Magic with Ante was banned from the School as that was gambling. It was fun!
Now as to my problem with your reviews as a whole I've noticed a slowly growing and quite frankly for me disappointing trend you're tossing in too much politics. Excuse me for being one of the few of your viewers who is proudly Conservative and as such some of your jokes irk me. I can ignore them for the most part but I just shake my head and sigh as you toss more and more out. I'd prefer if you limit the politics a bit in the future. I don't see a need to wear your politics on your sleeve as an entertainer. You're nowhere near where I get overly irritated yet but you're beginning to toe the line and I hope you stifle that bit a little more. None of that is to say I can't appreciate some of the jokes but if you're going to do them balance would be nice and would placate my annoyance a bit. Let me be clear though this isn't to say I don't think you can't do whatever you want. It's your work and you're an artist and I respect that. It's just I also have the ability to stop viewing the works of people I no longer enjoy and I really hope I don't have to do that to your works but if you continue to evolve along this line it seems that sadly you'll be reaching that point sooner or later.
This is a more neutral comment. I can see where a lot of the controversy from the D&D stuff stems. I think RPGs as a whole can be very destructive to those with borderline personalities and those prone to mental illness. I believe the vast majority of RPGs are totally innocent for most people but there are going to be some people who can be driven loopy by them and I think some caution is warranted by fellow players if they think one of their group is acting 'odd'. I can also see where some of the real critics think those games will allow for someone to get interested in non-traditional religions and I agree with them there. I do think it gives them the ability to consider things they wouldn't otherwise…I just don't believe that's destructive in nature.
All in all a great review. Thanks for sharing.
Just to balance the other comments -i love the cover song of the intro.It gives the songs lyrics somehow a different more sinister meaning.
And the video itself was excellent. But saying that is kind of redundant with Spoonys material.
No, it's a Lost reference.
Excellent review, as always.
In my wild and crazy youth, I did some D&D (the basic set, before I got braver) and eventually went to Rifts, a sci-fi-magic RPG. Not sure how many people know about it, but I like it just fine. In any case, I never got any flak about it in high school. I live in a small town, but not a real religious one, so the issue never really came up. Did get a dirty look from a parent of one of my players once, but the guy was a little too enthusiastic about describing the things he killed to his mother.
I think the issue has lessened due to the emergence of World of Warcraft and other MMOs, where avatars abound and have caught mainstream. It's kind of hard to show roleplaying as a corrupting Satanic influence when there's ample evidence that it doesn't. Then again, I don't hang around religious folk, so I can't say if the issue has gone away. Reading a few other comments here, I guess that once a stupid idea takes hold, it's hard to kill off completely. That's why political media is rife with stupid ideas – because it works.
The issue has gone away (for the most part). It was just something that a handful of nuts did and got blown out of proportion. The problem is that it was less a religious issue, and more a “panicked parent issue”. Histories done on the subject (I recommend Rodriguez’s “Moral Panic: Parents and Fear Mongering”) have shown that parents across the board, religious AND irreligious freaked out because they thought their children were getting involved in what the media framed as a degenerate activity (the same way both theistic AND atheistic parents freaked out about video games).
…and trust me, it’s a headache either way.
So this entire movie is just a modern re-interpretation of “Don Quixote”. But even so, all the elements are there: Tom Hanks is a deluded crazy person who prefers his fantasy over reality, the Twin Towers are the windmills, his friends are Sancho Panza – at once trying to keep him grounded in reality and then ultimately reinforcing it out of hope that it will make Hanks find peace or something. All the elements are there, only that this movie is awful and completely fails while Cervantes was a genius, knew how to portray his themes, and was a lot funnier.
(Like the cover of the theme song.)
Boy was I immensely happy to see this video posted today as Mazes and Monsters is one of my favorite of your written reviews. Also, Benzaie's Tommy Wiseau was fucking HILARIOUS! And I loved the Monster A-Go-Go reference
Beware the sacrilege!
Absolutely Hillarious review, having dealt with this crap myself it nice to see it get a sound Thrashing.
Also nice dedication Spoony. Baaawwwwwed a little.
Across the world LARPers look upon this and realised why you can't set this shit up without getting the insurance first.Now I'm a LARPer myself and have been out on set ups similiar to those caves.The monsters were played by LARPers themselves in costume.The party was fighting Reavers (Yes, THOSE reavers, browncoat.) and the end boss was a freaking xenomorph.This was done in an abandoned German gun battery/bunker with little/no lighting.We've yet to get anyone suddenly having AVP 2000 flash backs, screaming “It's Game over man! GAME OVER!!” and generally ending up a vegetable.That said I realise that I'm preaching to the choir.Honestly, I've LARPed with people with psychological problems who were totally drunk/stoned in situations that were freakish (Such as the time a militia patrol got jumped by a guy in a ghillie suit who was a lawn golem, you can't make this shit up) and they were more scared for metagaming reasons.
STOP RIGHT THERE SPOON! I needed to pause this at the beginning just to ask a question. Did you just compare legitimate concern over Al Qaeda, an international terrorist group responsible for the deaths of tens if not hundreds of thousands of innocent people, to paranoia about the gays?
In the end, it’s all paranoia, all the same. Al Qaeda isn’t going to bomb your local community center, and the Iranian guy who runs the corner market isn’t a member.
I think it goes beyond legitimate concern when anyone who looks even a little bit Middle Eastern is looked at with suspicion wherever they go. Hell, a Brazilian student was gunned down in the aftermath of the terror attacks in London for no good reason other than they thought he looked the part.
Spoony didn’t say brown people or Muslims (Then I would’ve agreed with him) he said Al Qaeda specifically.
You really nailed the DM stare, as I have done it on several occations in my games(almost all of them caused by one player). Which reminds me, the night I first DM'ed my own game was the same day Gary Gigax died. Sad day.
You bring up two interesting points.
1) Politics: you're right in that bringing politics into neutral entertainment territory does change the dynamic. It's hard to actually be neutral all the time, however, and considering that the attacks on D&D and roleplaying games were generated from the religious right, Spoony's views were completely warranted. As you said, he has the right to say what he thinks, and you have the right to watch or not watch.
2) The “mental illness” factor: Really? So television, movies, cable news, video games, books, sports, politics, religion, etc. can't do the same thing? You are right in that people should watch out for their friends and family if they start acting “odd”, but that should be a given. The failures of our society occur when “odd” people are alienated. Social settings usually do the opposite (though not always), and RPGs are quite social. I've played them a lot over the years, so I have some insight here. There's no justifcation for singling out RPGs, nor is there evidence that it leads to cultism, occult or otherwise. The people of Jamestown or the Branch Davidians weren't RPGers first.
My seven cents (correcting for inflation and all).
The way some people react to gays, you'd think that they're more dangerous than Al Qaeda, Hitler, and the Legion of Doom all rolled into one.
But unlike Al Qaeda and many islamic countries, we dont kill OUR gays!
Great review, The gunblade scene was great.…………….I'm a gamer (Not a habitual player of table tops, But definately video games, And online RPs.)I'm also a reader of fantasy novels, And a christian. So you might think i have it worse than the average gamer.Honestly, I have it easier than most. Partially cuz i'm from a newer generation, Where gamers are not AS feared as they used to be, And partially becuse my parents where nerds. (My dad the gamer, And succesful computer programmer, My mom the book reader.) So being a multigenre geek has been easier on me than most people.Though due to my sise, And constant serious look, Combined by my clothing attitude i get mistaken for a gangster….
If someone takes a game so goddamn seriously that he thinks he is a holy man who goes around stabbing monster… He shouldn't touch a game with a 50 meter stick.
I'm politically Conservative as well, and I found nothing in this review that was offensive or even opposed my views… not sure what exactly “irked” you.
Unless you're talking about the Ann Coulter jab… yea that was a bit tacked on. Should have just kept it at Stephanie Meyer.
From one Conservative gamer to another, you should be used to it by now and just let it roll off. Unlike most liberals we should be able to take a hit without crying.
The only political hints that could be gleaned from this is that Spoony probably supports gay rights and thinks nationalism goes too far in USA. If this is too political for you then perhaps you should fuck off, I guarentee no love will be lost if a conservative gay hating nationalist leaves the site. There would be much rejoicing.
There's a reason the vast majority of people on this site, TGWTG and the internet in general are liberal minded, that's because it's the mark of an intelligent reasonable person who doesn't hold bigotted hateful beliefs. If you don't like this, perhaps you shouldn't use the internet because us dirty left wing libral commie pansies have a large presence here and you'll likely become rather lonely if you parade your out-dated politics around like so. That said you're clearly a moron anyway as you think RPG's are destructive to people with borderline personality disorders… you mean more so than TV, books, music or video games? Yeah, that makes sense, sure….
I think I speak for the vast majority of people when I say, shut up, you're making yourself look stupid.
Also, I do love how people blame it on games when idiots go all crazy on games and tv… IF they were the cause we'd all be out there guns blazing.
mmmm, you are most definitely my favorite gay satanist, spoonyboy ;Dfeel free to call me if you need actors for spooning with spoony 3!
I agree with M_Appel. :) But seriously, this was hilarious. Love the Benzaie cameo. Fantastic review as always
You, my kind sir, are a GOD...And I don't mean that as in any weird way.
I've built an altar to your honor and I hope I someday will get a simple hair from your head.. To worship.. And lick…
Huh… I'm entering my third year for my Computer Scioence degree… should I start panicking now?
No, you do not need to start panicing, save that for a real situation, what you need to do is run in a circle for 10 hours screaming “WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!”
This is truly just astounding. One of the most hilarious yet extremely saddening examples of how people completely misplace blame.
P.S. Not a big fan of the new intro song. The video is fine but the song is just.. bleh.
Love the remix of your theme song (well song you use as a theme song, but anyways…)Dungeon & Dragons is fun…well, I played for a year but after the breakup with me then bf I quit because I didn’t know of any other group (and I sucked and needed constant help but loved it anywaysO.o).WTF? Hiding in secret playing DnDO.OHarry Potter shows friendship, sticking together through evil, and to be a good guy. I’ve reread the books (read almost all but one at least twice, which I am doing now) and I don’t worship the Devil or have any interest to do black magic.Me forementioned former bf was always trying to get the people in his DnD circle (yes, he was the Dungeon Master) to play that game. But he always ended up failing.So, Spoony, you got a computer science degree (or w/e)? At least you AIMED to get a useful degree. I went for an English Degree.I was depressed before I played DnD (I have Clinical Depression) and playing DnD NEVER made me feel suicidal. In fact, it made me feel better because of all the wacky stuff that went on during it.Love the nerd moments here. Basically saying even to a person who plays DnD it doesn’t make sense.“I ran out of hats.” XDYeah, but in Shutter Island things were more controlled than this would turn out to be.Spoony, there is a name for your problem. Unfortunately I forgot it. But it’s the same problem that the Zodiac Killer had (read Greysomething’s book about him and then saw the movie).
Spoonyboy… Wait a minute, M_Appel? the M stands for Maximillion doesn't it? You're Pegasus! Run Spoony, he's gonna use a spell card to turn you into a toon and then probably make you watch Spice World or something else horribly camp!
I hope your girlfriend gets mad at you for the joke at the end.
“You mean I don't turn you on? (when I'm alive) ;o;”
I like the lighter tone of the original theme song, but the remix definitely works if you need to do a badass video.
Great video! I love the new theme song. And as a gamer it's embarrassing to see, and hear, that people still succumb to this idiotic conclusion that entertainment kills people, and/or fucks up the minds of our youth. If one feels the need to complain on how society is evil, and use a scape goat as a means to display that point, then look no further than LARPing. Now that is something worth looking into and investigating – disturbing to say the least.
Is it me Or Dose the Kids Room that redecorated into a Hosptal does the floor remind u of Portal 2 trailers?
Nice meltdown. COME ON POOKIE LET'S BURN THIS MOTHER FUCKER DOWN!
Jack's tattoos… Mass Effect? I think so. Dose Jack on Lost even have tattoos? My bet is Mass Effect. Personally I think her tattoos are just like when people get tons of random tattoos, whatever they feel at the moment OR a map. OOOOooo think about that one :p
Very funny review Spoony. I had never even heard of this movie before you mentioned it in an earlier video, which left me curious to it and in the back of my mind I hoped you'd review it eventually. I guess blaming social issues on the easiest cause is just human nature, mostly because mentally humans are lazy bastards who can't be bothered to give deeper thought to anything.
Though I won't be too hard on Tom Hanks, this was early in his career so most likely he saw this as a test of his acting skill, what with playing an insane person and all. I doubt he supported the message of the film.
Also, I don't care what others say, I like the new theme song. A little change is good now and then, helps keep things fresh.
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One thing I like about the new intro is showing many of Spoony's various characters and alter egos. Long live Gandalf with automatic weapons!
D&D will turn players into real life killer. If you don't believe me just watch Mazes & Monsters. Tom Hank's character kill someone in the movie.
Only stupid parenting group who know next to nothing believe that a board game will influence players to kill in real life.
Great review Spoony!
I personally think they blame games and tv because they don’t want to admit their son was just nuts.
yeah, I believe Slveria is correct in what Spoony was getting at
That new version of your theme is just shit. Sorry, but the original didn't sound like some same-old metalcore bullshit. Now almost everyone on TGWTG has some shitty metalcore/nu metal theme.
Yes. You should. And switch to Electrical Engineering the next chance you get.
D&D doesn't get out of control? Five words:
1. We2. were3. fighting4. like5. MEN!!!
@Daniel GilfillanIt's more a combination of different jabs Spoony has been making recently. I'm pretty thick-skinned about it as I commonly read fantasy which is very liberal in tone with only minimal gagging it's just that I don't want to have to do the same for an entertainer that I quite enjoy. All that statement was intended to do was hopefully throw up a minor politely given red flag for him that some might not appreciate his tone and he should be contemplative of the diversity of his fans in general. I told this to the Cinema Snob as well and his response wasn't exactly palatable or polite so I no longer follow him I hope the same isn't needed in regards to Spoony, though Spoony has never been too overtly political so perhaps I'm just over-reacting here a bit.
@brodkil1. See I don't think all of the attacks come purely from the religious right on gaming issues. A lot of them come from the left as well. Who were the ones pushing the 'V-Chips?' Who were the ones who attempted to ban sales of video games to minors even ones not rated above their age group in my home state? Who were the ones who attempted to close comic book stores because hanging out there was negative to our development as citizens? Not the religious right. You're right though a lot of criticism goes from the fringe in that direction but by no means is that the only place our rights our threatened by bigots who want a nanny-state. Sure it's hard to be an entertainer and be politically neutral I get that. I also guess it's quite hard for you to make cultural jokes like Spoony does so well without throwing in politics on occasion especially with this movie being political. I just wish an effort had been made to make fun of both sides on this not just one.
2. Oh I agree all of those can factor in to causing people who are pre-disposed to have problems to have issues. They could just as easily fall into traps and cause them hurt. I'm just saying RPGs can do it as well that's all. I have no problem with RPGs for the vast vast majority of individuals but like anything there is people that can have problems with them and I just think it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Obviously the portrayal in this movie and most literature is ludicrous and play shouldn't be restricted or anything, it's just that I can see it causing a extremely small minority issues and totally discounting it as a possibility isn't wise.
I do however disagree with you on the religious connotations. I think it can cause people to examine their own religious belief system and consider their lives. I mean thats the point of role-playing is it not? To put yourself in another persons shoes. It can make you evaluate your own faith and value system when compared to your character I mean that's what you're doing getting into a character who may act or not act at all like your own personality and values. This itself makes you consider things you may not otherwise. I'm not saying that this is destructive at all, far from it in fact I think its extremely healthy activity in that vein. It also allows people to try on aspects of a alternative faith in a setting where most people will likely be very progressive about that sort of thing and this provides a wonderful support group for that exploration. Again not saying its negative but I strongly disagree with you if you don't think it at least causes contemplation of alternative religious practices. I'm not saying you're going to go join a cult because you played D&D but I am saying it makes one more contemplative about the thought of religion and morality as a whole depending on how much thought one puts into the character they are playing in some cases. Which let me say again I think is a great thing, but I can see why some churches consider that a huge threat because it could be. Not making people into 'baby-sacrificing satanists' but making them consider things.
Took me awhile to find the posting again. Lots more comments since yesterday.
1) The attacks on RPGs is definitely a right wing issue. You can’t sidestep it by saying the left causes related incidents (and I’d contest the culprits behind some of those examples you cited, or your nanny state comment, but this thread is difficult enough to get to). This topic was about RPGs, and the facts are that the religious right attacked them. The left is guilty of its own sins, but this isn’t one of them.
As for political balance… I don’t know how you’d do it. I suppose if Spoony was a general humorist that went after human behavior in general, that might be possible. Certaintly all political sides have their share of fair targets. Jon Stewart pulls it off pretty well, but we can’t all be Jon Stewart (and he’s ultimately a lefty, like me). Personally, I’d be happy to eliminate political parties and change the dynamics of the country, but that’s not going to happen any time soon (and I suspect our lovely country will collapse first before it happens, in fact).
2) I think I get you here. RPGs can cause people to question faith, you say. Possible. Didn’t happen with me, though. College was what made me question my faith. But, again, lots of things can make you question your faith. I believe that questioning one’s faith tends to occur more when you’re outside your usual stomping grounds and seeing other cultures and other philosophies in action. RPGs simply didn’t have any effect on me because I considered it fantasy territory. Unless you have a personal anecdote to bring to the table, I’m curious on where you get your assertions.
Nice to see a lot of work went into this one. The new intro is alright, but I preferred the irresponsibles Break Me (:
Also, Benzaie as Tommy Wiseau was hilarious!
One of your best yet!
The only evil I've found in RPG's is the rules…'cos I'm dyscalculic. I “get” the rules, but I can't really use them in any planned strategical sense.
Joel was great…but Mike was better.
This review was worth the wait. Sadly, that really IS all there is to the movie; check out the imdb page and wikipedia if you don’t believe it.Oh, and the opening remix?MADE OF WIN.That is all. :)
I just heard this line… “It's possibly to love you without making love to you.”
I prefer to call that foreplay.
I am sorry that those ignorant t£$ts made your life hell, I get annoyed by those holier than thou twerps (and I am christian.)
Anyway, the movie looks really goofy and even as someone with very little RPGing experience I am cringing at the inaccuracies. Great review as ever spoony
For crap's sake, people, the song version is probably only a one time thing. Like when the AVGN has remixes for his opening once in a while?
The 2002 Flashback was nice- as long as the irony was intended:First you bitch about the movie being set in 1982 and a guy bringing a 1987 wine to the partyand a bit later you have Benzai do an Wiseau-immitation a year BEFORE “The Room” hit the world.
Nice review – especially as i was beginning to fear that your “wrestle wrestle” show was starting to affect your release frequency for good ol' experiment-reviews
keep it up
I remember watching this movie, or one very similar to it. There was a part at the end where the Tom Hanks character was dressed in cleric robes but was in an asylum being visited by the DM of the game, but before that he meets with the guys mother and she forgives him for her son having to be recommitted. Turned out the guy had a mental breakdown before brought on by the game but got better, then the family kept it secret and sent him to college where he ended up joining another group and relapsed. It might be the same movie as this one, only a different version, directors cut maybe?
I like the new intro into the show, it was something different. I am wondering if it will be a seasonal thing now, a new intro for each season of the Spoony Experiment Granted I'm not sure which season you would call this since you have a number of shows and the show count for seasons usually vary depending on the shows.
“Oh, that's brilliant, reinforce his violent delusions; and it worked so well in Shutter Island.”
Um, I think you're forgetting that in Shutter Island, the whole role-playing exercise snapped him out of his fantasy for good. Sure, he pretended to regress because he wanted to get lobotomized so he'd never have to live with the guilt ever again, but it worked nonetheless.
WARNING: The preceding comment contained spoilers and should not have been viewed by those wishing to see the movie.
After watching this, I'm looking forward to a review of that atrocious Dungeons and Dragons movie.
The ending stinger had me in stitches, by the way =)
Dude, I was totally in Drama club, and still play D&D on Saturdays, I had no idea I was a gay satanist…damn.
Also, I love the remixed theme song
I never played Dungeons And Dragons, still i kinda could relate to some of this, i played in metal bands in school and the word around the court was that we were sacrificing goats and had rituals in the forest. It still cracks me up to this day!
One thing crossed my mind during this video though, stereotypes and writers elaborating on subjects they have no knowledge sadly to common.Take two current series for example, NCIS and Criminal Minds, both feature two alternative-goth computer girls, computer software that isn't even close to existing. Talk and Jargon that feels wrong. I mean no body talks like that.
The stupid part is this could easly been avoided by writers doing simple things like trying out photoshop. I mean, if i had been recruited to be a part of a team of writers over a long time, i would definitly do some research on the subjects the show was about.
Kinda pisses me off
I am a fan of NCIS, but it is pretty obvious that a lot of the time they have NO IDEA what they’re talking about, and not just on technology. Well, if you look past that you have… poorly written and structured cases. So what I like about the show is… it’s a guilty pleasure.
Great review Spoony! I loved the sketch with you, Benzaie, and the blood-spattered gunblade!
The “Break Me” remix was… depressing. It was a good effort, but just not very enjoyable.
Anyway, looking forward to more reviews!
no, it means some random final fantasy fanboy must die before lady scarlett gets spooned… which will make spoony even happier
New remix of the theme song is pretty cool but I hope it doesn't become the standard
I remember seeing this when I was little, it made my mom even more paranoid about D&D. Then again she was a batshit insane Christian who thought the ninja turtles were evil too.
Wow, this is why spoony is the king. Hilarious and nicely made points against the movie and the anti-MTG vibe that was going on. Shit we used to play the game in Boy Scouts and my mom still made me sell all my MTG cards (4th through Urza's) and made my dad sell his first AD&D manuals which btw one of them was the recalled Monster Manual because it had copyrighted characters in it….bah makes me want to pull my hair out.
WTF. benzai has PS3 games in 2002?! lol
Must’ve gone to the same future store where Tom Hanks got his 1987 vintage.
Excellent review once again.
Spooneys theological views revealed have been ^_^
Hm too bad you didn't go to my high school. The administration let my friends and me start a roleplaying club our Junior year. And it was a Catholic school too, btw ;)
Love the review. That was one of my fav text reviews you've done so it was nice to see a video review for it. Loved the hat gag. lol
It's funny when I was younger my mom was all nuts about D&D, as a Kid I made a lot of games based off of other games, and I made a simple RPG to play with my brother and she took it the moment I said anything of it being like D&D.
But now, she completely fine with me running a campaign with friends and has even help my brother get a book and a few supplies.
Although this movie does remind me of the third futurama movie, Bender's Game, well I think they took things like this as inspiration for what happened in the movie.
Really awesome review. Definitely one of your top five. I especially liked the joke at the end. I also enjoyed the jabs you took at the religious right and Ann Coulter.
interesting new version of the theme. It doesn't feel spoony though. Thank you for this video, as one who was also percicuted for being a D&D nerd this finally needed to be said.
Ah yes getting erections from homocide, nothing really better to do during the summer.
NOOOOOOO!!!!! Spoony why would you change the opening!?! I loved the old one! It always made me so happy and excited to watch your show! Something I could dance to and get pumped to see what you'll bash next! But this, this just made me sad and dead on the inside D; Hell, it took me half the opening to realize it was a remake of the original opening and that made me sadder TT_TT Other than that I couldn't help but love this. I consider myself the nerdiest girl in my school and I get a ton of odd looks for it XD Keep it up! I'd just love for the old opening though!
hey spoony love the review. i also love your mythbusters t-shirt lol.
Linkara broke the continuity alarm again didn't he?
I think its broken because these idiots broke the timeline and drank a drink from the future,
“Brody, my kids were in there too!”
“My kids were on that beach too!” Sorry, I don’t want to be that guy but I hate seeing misquotes. I know, I’m an asshat.
What, no love for Dave Arneson in the dedication? His importance to gaming was just as important, and his passing was just as saddening.
Oh Mazes and Monsters! I think I saw this when I was like 6 or 7 and it might be the single reason I became interested in D&D, which at this very moment my group is getting ready for our Sunday game.
Spoony your review was perfect! Good work and I'm happy… Satan is pleased!
It's a LOST reference. Jack does have tattoos, in fact, a whole flashback episode was dedicated to how he got them and what they meant.
Thanks Spoony! Much appreciated!
ummm not sure if anyone else has said this but…….. pennecillin was discovered by accident….oops sorry my inner uber nerd took over for a second there…….phew got rid of him for now…I hope…anyways FIRKIN AWESOME REVIEW!!!! love the dodgy echo effects and I think Tom needs to lay off the acid..
Yes, Jack on Lost has tattoos. In fact, they did an entire episode devoted to flashbacks explaining why he got the tattoos and what they mean, prominently featuring Bai Ling as his never-before-or-since-mentioned love interest. It was…, let's just say it was not the most well recieved Lost episode.
I remember that paranoia about D&D back in the 80s. My friends mom was out of her mind when it came to D&D. It was odd because she didnt go to church or anything, but the second anyone mentioned D&D she started ranting that it's the work of satan, and if we play it we'll be sucked into a never-ending life of demon worship, human sacrifice, blood orgies, and somehow street gang violence was caused by D&D too, in her mind. I thought she was weird back when i was a kid….but thinking about it now she was a dangerous lunatic! She even printed off some sort of 80 page manifesto which detailed all the dangers of D&D and attempted to force us to read it all.
Of course, this just made us actually want to play the game, we had no interest in it before her weird shit, but she made it sound pretty awesome. When we finally did play the game though, we were sorely disappointed. I'm kind of a geek, but to this day i still think D&D is really lame.
New theme sucks :P
Otherwise, pretty good review. I read the text version a long time ago and it's nice to see it in video form.
Hey it's Miles's police hat thing! :D
Uh… Nerd Pride? LOL. Awesome intro, by the way.
Another “The Room” quote. lol XD
*After watching to the end”
Ohh~..Wait…you what!? O_O!?
Heh, that look on the DM's face when he jumped in the pit reminds me of when I was playing the Star Wars RPG… You haven't lived till you've gotten hammered then befriended an unconscious Wampa, brought him back to your ship as a pet, and started saying “…and I'll love him, and hug him, and call him George.” Ah… I really gotta get in a new pen & paper RPG group.
Help me out everyone. I know I have seen a “pardue” reference in some other media, but I can't rmemeber where. It is driving me crazy
I was subjected to this movie by my mom because she felt games like final fantasy 7 and legend of zelda majora's mask were evil and brainwashing me. personally i've never found anything wrong with d&d or any other rpgs. i totally got everything spoony was saying
I know what you mean Spoony, I can only get an erection that way too!
Gay satanists aren't all that different from straight satanists. They do have better parties however.
Ieayy…can't say as I care for the new opening…but I suppose variety is the spice of life.
As a DM I've made that face all… too… often…
I think spoony got some things off his chest with this review
I can never watch Forest Gump again NOOOO
Flamesield on!Sorry to say this, but in general, US is a racist nation. It may hurt and sound like flaming statement, but it is true.Lets go back to the 13 founding colonies, which is the seed of us. Each colony was so strict (racist) on religion, costumes, racial neighborhoods and so on, that unagreeing led (which happened) to banishment. Founding colonies were so untolerant to differences that the US was formed with “towns” (as Chinatowns, Irishtowns, etc). Racially segregated towns persist and shape the US SOCIETY STILL.Later on, there was the Civil War, which had as one of the top priorities the abolishment of slavery (in this case a very strong form of racism). Even though there isn't slavery and there is a black president (IN B4 Obama as counter-argument), southern states keep this vision of pride to the south and heck with N*GGERS!!! (I´m totally ok with afroamericans plz dont hate me!!!)-Recently, hate towards any Middle-eastern/terrorist and hunt illegals in the border show new ways of selling “acceptable racism”. Middle-easterns, though proven they have no nuclear weaponry and only an extremist cell made an attack (9/11, which is debated with completely valid arguments to be an inside job), are seen as evil people whose only attempts are to smash the American Way of Life, have become a new enemy (racism anyone). And illegal aliens (any Latin American) are hunted in the border and national troops are sent to protect the sovereignty of the US (really??? a bunch of illegal men seeking a job, that just walked through the desert with no guns and just a gallon of water are national emergency???)….Point is, as a country, the US isSTILL very intolerant to anything, and apparently seeks forms to hate, which leads to various forms of racism. I do not mean in any way that EVERY american is a racist MOFO, but as a majority and countrywise, americans are really intolerant and racist.
I think you meant to say ignorant asshat on!
Obama is not black. His mother is white. If you have a white mother you are not black. His father is black. When you have a mother of one race and a father from another race you are bi-racial. To call him black is to deny his white mom which is racist. Even worse is people calling Tiger Woods black. The man isn’t even half-black. He is 25% black, 50% asian, 25% spilt white and native american.
Also the reason why there is no longer slavery or forced segregation is because other white people thought it was horrible and made laws to change it. Whites are 70% of the US population, if we wanted to we could still oppress the other 30% of the population. We don’t do that because we grew up and learned that’s bs. Also you need to read up on the Civil War other than what government schools teach you. Example the slaves came from black Africans for trade and profit.
Spoony I think thats what the blue pills are for. Morpheus is handing them out I hear.
Hoorah for Jonathon Coulton in the crazy pill break!
Fucking brilliant, Spoony! This was some of your best snark ever!
I thought for one brief second at the end, you were going to splice in Admiral Akbar to declare, “IT'S A TRAP!!”
I I really liked this review, thanks Spoony.
I've just got to throw in my support for this version of the theme in the hopes it gets used again.
And, of course, beware the sacrilege!
Definitely liked your old theme song better, Spoony It was light, fast-paced, and matched the montage better..
I like the other intro better. This review was great as always. I play D&D too and he's so right about what he said. I recommend 3rd edition or 3.5 to anyone.
Pathfinder or 3.75 as some people have called it is awesome.
Never stop making videos that was great! So many good jokes and the hat gag was really funny as well.
I like the new intro, but I think the pace of the song remix doesn't match your high energy style as well as the original. Beyond that, excellent video!
You act as if intolerance, ignorance, and xenophobia are either exclusive to or the most prominent identifying feature of the US.
Majora's Mask IS evil! With the black fairy Tael always haging with the Skull Kid, TEH DEVIL?! And the moon is a Symbol of TEH GAY inflicting our society!No wonder it is my favorite game of all time!
!!actor wannabe!!!! what's happened, everything has gone.(the fun, the cleverness, the creativity, the uniqueness, the style, the, comedy, the ability to appeal internationally, the site viewers will accept anything they see. Spooney the celebra-tit.
You found no humour in this at all? You’re dead inside man…you’re a monster!
I saw part of this movie on TV once…I gave up after 20 minutes. It's good to know I didn't miss anything.
I've been waiting for this… Another Spoony movie review! Fantastic! The Beyond Midnights just weren't my thing, and the wrestling just doesn't quite do it for me. I listened to one and a half of them and lost interest. I may try them again, though. I'm not going to judge them all off of my first try.
There's a bug on the lens at 19:26 over the face of the actor.
Shows well how much effort they put into this movie… they didn’t redo a scene where there was a bug on the camera lens…
I think we've just seen the official replacement for Admiral Akbar's “IT'S A TRAP!”
You are right, but as a counterpoint, we are actually less racist than a most nations. For example, take the race riots that happened in France, and likewise the recently passed Burkha ban.
Fact is, almost all countries are racist, but we are a little more experienced in dealing with it. Countries like France or Switzerland only seem less racist because they are more homogenous than we are. Once people begin moving there, however, things get less rosy.
France only recently started having immigrants. We've had them for centuries.
Still, considering how intolerant we are, that doesn't speak well for humanity as a whole.
Well, guess the time has finally come to end my life, with me being a homosexual and an abomination to nature, because I go to drama class.*puts noose around neck*What? Spoony went to drama class? And Neil Patrick Harris is gay?*flys outta noose*I'm not a freak!*flys into the sun*
NPH is gay?? But he got so much pussy in the Harold and Kumar movies…..the world has changed for me today.
Lol, you didn’t know? He’s been dating the same guy for years.
I gotta say, I didn’t find out NPH was gay until after I’d seen H&K, too, since I don’t follow celebrities’ lives (except for internet celebrities), and man, it made that movie even funnier. NPH still rules.
It is not the most prominent i feature of the US, but it is a great deal and a huge problem. Second, it is not exclusive, but when Spoony starts wondering why does this happen? And why do people start into the hate/fear wagon, well, what I have exposed is a valid answer. Besides, I think that in what I wrote, there is nothing false, nor biased.
It isn’t always different races that are pushed as the demon dejour, it’s also been single mothers, rap, Marylin Manson, violent movies, violent games, nipple slips, bad language, etc. The foreign angle is usually the best as it’s fairly common knowledge that the vocal majority in the US know absolutely nothing about other lands and cultures.
Racism will never go away because it’s a simple fact that you relate to what you know, what you don’t know is either ignored or feared (feared may be a strong word), I wouldn’t argue that the US has that market cornered…all countries have their problems to varying degrees, not being immersed in other countries doesn’t allow us to fully realise just how widespread it is there in comparison.
Many times it’s a simple case of a moral panic being spread to distract the masses from pressing issues in politics – for example, a British politicians assistant was fired for being caught distributing an email stating that the day after the 9/11 disaster would be a great day to bury bad news regarding an unpopular policy change. It sucks, but that’s when you unfortunately have to rely on people thinking for themselves to see through the bullshit of it all.
What's with the new theme song? “Break Me” was your signature, the tune that my brain has permanently associated with imminent hilarity. Please change it back.
I think that was the point of the joke.
Didn't anyone notice that this song IS “Break Me”? The lyrics are exactly the same as the other song, the music and band are just different…
I like the video from your opening, but you should keep your Break Me song. Really. Keep that song.
Every decade/century/millennium needs a scapegoat for people to try to understand why people do the things they do. D&D, Comic Books, Beavis and Butthead, and now video games. We've come a long way, technologically, but people in general are still very stupid.
As for the theme song…he DID keep his theme song…it's just a remix…we've all heard of remixes, right?
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! OMG! This is crazy funny Spoony. I'm sorry I've been lurking your website for 3 years and this is the first time I had to make a post. Your highschool story had me rolling out my chair in laughter.
Yes, there are a lot of people in the U.S. that are racist. It's a problem that the U.S. as a whole is still dealing with, it's just not the same racism we had 40 or 50 years ago.
But, is a fucking Spoony Expirement video really the place to talk about this? I'm just trying to enjoy Spoony raging on a bad movie. Try taking a sociology class and debating it there, or to a relevant forum.
Spoony, I know you're afraid of catching the gay, but I would seriously go gay for you.
You kind of have to love the paranoia used to make that movie. It's almost as amusing as the dvd box art. Oh those crazy people. Ha. I hope they keep making the nerds laugh. When the nerd rapture begins all the crimes will be paid for in full… I mean, what? Nevermind.
So who was the poor victim of the gunblade incident? Surely you have it on camera just like the phone call, right?
I had a high school principal that thought a sculpture of the gesture for rock on was satanic and told an art teacher of mine to take it down. She would probably treat D&D the same way. She was very unpopular with students and teachers of the school. She was basically sacked by finishing her last year after plenty of controversial things she did.
6:45- “A world of invented terrorists” So is the kid missing or is he a terrorist?
So the media at the time knew that Robby had was experiencing a serious mental disorder but they blamed it on D&D? That is low.
The detective is very incompetant if he didn't bother looking in new york for him instead looks in a cave.
The cover is misleading, but are there screen captures on the back or inside the box the show how dated the movie really is?
I'M CALLING YOU OUT, SPOONY! You've used that last last joke before :PP
I love your story at the beginning, lmao! It's okay. My grandmother has stated that the priests in her church have said that Pokemon is from the devil, despite it just being an anime for kids.
People are just stupid.
I like your hat collection. Also Benzai as Tommy Wiseau= PURE WIN. Lmao. Thanks for making an embarrassingly bad movie into a hilarious review!
(Right-wing nut uses Shield Killer! Flameshield has disappeared!)Holy crap…. that was incredible. Man, it looks like your head is so far up your ass, youre staring down the gerbil!You come down here claiming the US is a racist nation, yet in reality we are no more racist than practically any other nation on the planet. What's so special about us? The fact that we're practically the defenders of the world?
Well, aside from african slaves being sold by their own people (heck, some parts of Africa STILL practice slavery), I find it strangely hypocritcal that the ones who constantly bicker, babble, and preach about racial tolerance and reparations now were the same people who founded the KKK and many racist segregated laws in America's past. The same people today who cower and hide and apologize just for spouting a censored 'nigger'! (Ever heard of a certain black person of a certain black cult saying the words: 'If you want freedom, youre gonna have to kill some crackers. Youre gonna have to kill some of their babies.'?)Also, there is good reason to be worried about terrorism. Christianity is far more peaceful than Islam. Answer me this: How many times has Comedy Central gotten away with bashing Jesus… and how many times have they got away with bashing the Prophet Muhammad? These extremists proudly announce their hate and bigotry toward our country and way of life on OUR land, yet if you bash THEIR way of life on THEIR land, you would be executed. Less said about being gay or wearing a burka the wrong way or going to the law about being raped and you dont have the right number of witnesses. ALSO, Saddam used weapon tests on his own people. 'Acceptable Racism'…
As for illegal immigration, the reason it's a problem is because they cut in front of life of LEGAL immigrants, mooch off the tax payer, get free welfare and healthcare benefits at the expense of US Citizens and legal immigrants, they steal existing identities, they smuggle drugs into our country, if one commits a crime he/she cant be traceable because we have no documents or fingerprints or any such info about them, and not to mention the problems we currently have with drug cartels. Hell, Spoony lives in Arizona! He should already be aware of this crap! (Pst, you wanna know how Mexico treats THEIR illegals?)
Oh man, this is rich. Dont you just LOVE it when the best reason not to hate something is because it's 'racist'?God bless America… at least we tolerate our idiots.
Ahhhhh, the fresh smell of conservative douchebaggery, nothing like it. Illegal immigrants don’t mooch off our tax money since they pay taxes, and if our best argument is “Well we’re better than them!” with an accusing finger pointed at a third world country, we’re not doing so hot.
And if you’re judging an entire culture based on the actions of a few extremists, then I guess all Americans drop nukes, invade foreign countries for no legitimate reason, support imperialism, and sell drugs.
Christianity is more peaceful than Islam, uh right…the Crusades, Catholic-Protestant conflicts, Jewish Blood Libel, the KKK, erm, heard of those things?
And the KKK is founded by the same guys who preach racial tolerance now? Are you shitting me?
Heh. It’s good to see you can smell the difference between conversative douchebaggery and hippy bullshit… since the conservative has a tendency to BATHE.
Of course illegal immigrants pay taxes… which is why nearly half of them are on welfare. Heck, about 30% of the inmates in California’s prisons are illegals! You got any better argument that can top “Well we’re better than them!”? Cuz, well… we ARE better than them! They apparently cant stop hopping over our borders and cut in front of the legals to come in!
I CAN judge in this case, because last time I checked, these ‘FEW EXTREMISTS’ still hold power and still preach their hate. It’s not a religion of peace by any means other than by utter dominance. Sharia Law is an incredibly barbaric law of the land. In their homelands, the word ‘jihad’ is something to fear. In fact, many American news sources are even afraid to mention the word! (Funfact: Muzzammil Hassan, the CEO and Founder of a Muslim channel in New York that taught Muslim tolerance JIHADED HIS WIFE!)
By the way, the Crusades fought off the tryannical Islamic conquests, but I know what point youre trying to make. Sure both sides had quite a sketchy past, but the main difference between Christianity and Islam is Christianity grew up. Islam didnt. Keep trying, but dont lose your head over it (*Ba dum PISH!*)
Yes. I shit you not. Ever heard of the Democratic Party? (And yeah, erm.. I heard of the KKK, which is why I brought it up in the first comment, DUR! :D)
Cool story bro
R u talkin
…Who the hell removed my comment?
Did I say something that itched a few sandy vaginas?
I noticed that the one kid was Rudy from “Meatballs” and the cop was the mayor from the first two “Jaws” movies
Oh My God! The ending is awesome!
And love the Jonathan coulton insert.
I think ima a treatning nerd…
HA! That is some mighty ridiculous shit right there. So silly a thing I have never seen. To even CONTEMPLATE that Michael J. Nelson wasn't the best host on mst3k is beyond me. Madness! Oh and that DnD shit is also pretty stupid.
Man I don't should feel embarrassed, since I am a christian. I heard plenty something was evil, specifically if it something nerdy. When Harry Potter came out I heard the Christan say “it's evil it's witchcraft:, but when World of war craft a game you chose a Warlock and summon demons, I heard nothing from christian. Christians also do nothing about the twilight era, think about a story a girl, who has to chose between Necrophilia or beastly, how that right?
Not Christians in general. Just a handful o’ wackjobs with an axe to grind and a media that loves those freaks. Most of us Christians were either trying to challenge our misguided brethren who raised these silly panics in the first place…or were quiet since the situations were so stupid that we didn’t want to get involved.
I saw this movie in 89, and it got me hooked in RPG(lol), but it was next to impossible to buy ANY rpg book here in brazil, and the ones i found where all in english(that i learned by myself just to play them…).
Nice review btw. one more thing: go watch Dreamscape with Dennis quaid: 3 reasons 1)chessy movie about dream-shearing2)David Patrick Kelly as this movie version on Freddy Krueger 3)THE PRESIDENT DREAMS OF FALLOUT 3!
Spoony, I swear, we are brothers under the skin. You talk about your past and your life as it is, man… you're not alone. Whatever you think, you're not alone.
10:35 – Best Spoony moment ever.
By “Beware the Sacrilege,” he meant to beware the sacrilege of disturbing the dead and that it might pull a knife on him. Funny joke though, and I'm sure you knew that. The intro theme cover… It… It wasn't very good! Very much unlike your reviews! =D
Bwa ha ha. This is the funniest thing you have don in a while Spoony!Hmm…I think that there needs to be a new series: religious propaganda B movies (Years of the Beast, Megiddo, etc.)
Now those movies made “Left Behind” look like a work of art!
Hahaha. This is my new favroite video. It was just absolutly halarious. Well done Spoony, well done.
(kudos on the It Lives By Night refrence)
*Powers up his shield killers spell but doesn't have a target, shield was already killed*
Hi I'm a Japanese American, although I really hate saying it like that I'd rather just say Hi I'm an American. I'm not flaming you at all, just correcting you a little bit.
1st: Every country during the time of the first 13 colonies was, in your words, racist. There was hardly a single country that had immigrants at all. That didn't begin for a good while. For what it matters the first 13 colonies were founded by people that England found to be undesirable equally as the people in question found England to be, although much like other countries that will go unnamed the Empire did send off many prisoners to the New World as well. To claim there was any sort of racial issue is very odd, unless you mean Ethnic? Well yeah there were districts for various ethic backgrounds in most major cities… created by the people themselves. You see the Irish felt most comfortable around other Irish so they lived close to them. Granted later on these areas became slums because of rapid development in the surrounding urban areas, but there were no laws forcing the Irish to live in a single area of a city.
2: The Civil War did have the effect of the abolishment of slavery but it was fought for so many reasons I could write a whole book about them and not even touch slavery expect in footnotes. The south wasn't nearly as wealthy as the north, it had smaller cities and population and was generally more strictly, as we would call it today, conservative and viewed the north as a bunch of liberal “Dandies” who were somehow less moral. Slavery was the straw that broke the camels back. And on the subject of Slavery… Slavery isn't racist, it is cruel and evil and wrong, but it isn't racist. Don't believe me? Do you know what a Serf is? If you don't you should look it up, my family descends from Japanese serfs who were treated little better than slaves…BY THE OWN PEOPLE. Also there is still Slavery to this day, mostly in Central American and Africa (some in Asia) and it is done to and by THE OWN PEOPLE. In fact Slavery started in Africa long before the Western Slave Trade began, this is all fact and not opinion friend.
3: illegal Immigration is terribly offensive to me, I got here legally and because of all the laws and red tape it took me roughly 3 years to become a full citizen. I was 7 when I first came here with my family. We followed the system, we faced all sorts of challenges, but I still love this Country, even more than my own Homeland. You see the problem isn't even the Southern Boarder friend, it is Visas both Student and Work that allow people into the country legally for a short time, in that time they are either supposed to renew the Visa, Complete school, or become citizens but sadly most don't. I'm a Legal Citizen not by birth but by proper channels, why should only I have to use them?
4: Lastly… Obama, black? *sighs* Yeah I guess if you like to even talk about skin tones then yes I suppose he is dark skinned, but he is an AMERICAN. The color of his skin shouldn't matter on the world stage and it doesn't. I'm not a supporter of the man but I can say this without feeling any regret, he is our President and I'll support him while he is here. Does having elected a Black Man (I won't use the word you did out of the respect you appear to lack) matter at all? If the world believes it does that makes them racist. The term Racist means “Doing X because of a Race” be that X good or bad. Food for that thought there isn't it? Your comments are boldly racist against Americans, it is hate speech and I can't stand for it even if it means I'm either unpopular or get my account banned. You comments were and are as Racist as anything you accuse the USA of and more Mr. Rodrigo Ibarra and I'm calling you out on it.
Okay, thanks for listening and I hope I've been clear.
Bravo! Thanks for saying that, nyarlathotep.
Yeah so this doesn't seem like a bad place to discus this; How many people had their first experience with the Idea of D&D dragons from this movie? I can't be the only one right?
Dude… You should have put a warning label on this one. I almost sufficated from all the laughing. :D
Very good review, but I gotta admit, I liked the original version of the song better.
hahaha soooo many great lines in this vid, Spoony
“And so LARPing was born…..dignity died shortly thereafter”“Beware…the humidity”
You know, you could cut away the last 20 minutes of this movie and it would be just like any other Wes Anderson film. Handful of quirky white people doing odd things while dealing with batshit crazy parents.
Also, it's my new goal in life to get Tom Hanks into a LARP.
Beware the sacrilege? Who the fuck even *wrote* that line? There's no way that could have sounded good, even in your head.
I'm guessing George Lucas.
Also: Booo, new cover song. Boo.
sorry joel was better
Each and every Final Fantasy is wonderful and awesome.
I'm glad that I finally found someone who kills people for the same reason as I do.
As an existing, D&D playing girl I am insulted by the girl in this thing. If I was half as doe-eyed and creepy as this girl no nerd would be within 20 ft of me, never mind willing to come into my home and let me feed them once a week.
Very funny, good to see Benzaie's #He who shall not be named# impression. Bonus points for using what is possibly my favourite Jonathan Coulton song ever too. I have to agree the original version of the opening theme was better though…
Oh, dear Zarquon. A “friend” informed me, in first grade no less, that I was going to hell for reading the Harry Potter books. I can't even imagine the levels of prejudice against D&D players back in the day. People are assholes. I can't believe they were going to expel you. Also, drama club makes people gay?! :O I never knew I was a lesbian!
Great review. Loved the bit with Benzaie and the gunblade especially. Uh. Thumbs-not-quite-down on the theme song remix from me, though. It's okay, but the original is better.
Exactly. It's all the stereotyping against nerds mixed in with all the stereotyping against women. FAIL.
Superb review Spoony, this is easily the best video I've seen you do for sometime. As to relate to the topic of prejudice against hobbies, I've experienced very little. The standard nerd mocking but that is all in good fun. More irritating was when I wanted to play D&D. As my parents work for the Seventh Day Adventist church schooling system they wouldn't let me play for fear that they would get fired or something. I'm not worried though as they were nice enough to get me a D20 modern Rulebook in the hopes that I could play a tabletop RPG without the horror that is magic in it. That and not of my friends are interested in playing with me.
This song is also “Break Me”, just a different style. I'd like him to have a folksy riff on it next, then maybe bagpipes.
Oh God… no! No bagpipes please :D
Dude, Miles does your makeup? That's kinda…humiliating actually, but hey, if that's what he wants.
And the theme song, well, it's interesting, but The Irresponsibles were just so awesome and that theme was so Spoony, (Even if it implied that you like to be treated rough, but that would explain a lot about Scarlett), the new one seems a step down even if it's just by comparison.
Wow, it's been awhile, but you pulled off another win. Hilarious review.
I may not be a D-back fan but I live in Reno so GO RENO ACES!
As always Great Review Spoony keep up the great work
Yay another review ^_^, I had been hoping you would go into more details about this movie, when i saw a clip from it in the DND review i was like “This looks fucking stupid”.. But it turns out that this was even worse than i though, why the hell would you play real life DND in a cave without monsters or dices, well alright they do roll dices and then they shout out “MONSTER!” and people get scared as shit and wet their pants or according to this movie they just start going completely banana. Also why would they play in a completely dark room with a freaking candle as their only light source, how serious can you take a frigging board game? Nerds don't sit in dark rooms with candle lights.. Goth's do that, nerds sits around the table eating potato chips and haves fun with the damn game. Well anyway nice review and nice work tearing down this stupid movie.
“Real Life D&D in a cave,” I’d suggest you look up LARPing.
Very funny and entertaining review. The song at the start is very cool – I assume it's a fan-cover? I prefer the original one, but it makes for a nice change. And of course, the subject matter was really funny. Sometimes I think there are not enough real threads in our world so people invent some.
Ok, at 19 mins or so, when they're talking about celibacy, is there at bug on the camera? A black smudge is moving around near the woman's face.
Hey whats with the bad intro? i want the good old intro back. but i great video and funny ass hell.
The musical intro isnt bad… but the singer is WAY too tonedeaf!
There's blood on my gunblade :PDon't you think its a 1887 bottle of wine not 1987 i mean they are from well off families.
Loved the mid-life crisis breakdown,
Ok, ok this is why I hate High School, especially when I was a Freshman. I was a member of the Video Game club, and VP of the Manga Club at my old High School, and there was a very nasty rumor going around that I ran around dressing up stray cats in little black outfits and bashed them with a homemade Keyblade, all because I am a huge fan of Kingdom Hearts. Spoony I know what it's like and it's not pretty. Now I am a super big nerd, but I am not a psychopathic kitty killer. People actually thought it was true outside of the people in my clubs. I was freakin out, like who would think that. Luckily it didn't last long, because another rumor spread about my friend Michael and that he was studying black magic, and demonology, all because he could SOLVE A RUBI CS CUBE FAST! I mean wow, why us, why the nerd, what did we ever do, Spoony there is far too much hate against us you know, we gotta find a way outta dis… also Harry Potter is not that bad compared to something as god awful as Twilight.
lol, your childhood must have been rough
Boy, the worst thing that ever happened to me playing D&D was when one of the guys I was playing with thought it was a Pen and Paper Grand Theft Auto and started killing everybody in the game… and I swear to this day, that guy was a Satanist BEFORE he started playing D&D! BEFORE! (for those not in the know with my high school year group, there was a legitimate LaVeyan Satanist in my year group who somehow crashed our D&D group. Little did we know that his douchebaggery towards Dwarven Clerics had little to do with Satan, because he was a LaVeyan and not an occultist, but he was well established as a meanie in most interactive entertainment media such as RPGs and video games).
That said I don't think ANYONE I know's ever regarded Magic: The Gathering as any more dangerous than Warhammer 40,000, but I live in Australia and we have a situation here where most of the population doesn't agree with religious fundamentalists who make laws against things like violent video games, even though fundies have power. It's because of them Australia is ridiculed as the country that bans video games that aren't suitable for people under 15.
I seriously cringed at the scene after the WTC scene. That was some pathetic acting and shitty dialogue lol
I see what you did thar.
I for one like that opening. It just reeks of bad assness. Long live the experiment! I GOT BLOOD ON MY GUNBLADE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT THERE!
Haha, you revealed your darkest secret to us, Spoonyone
Hahaha! That was funny! :D I use to play another Roleplaying game, and i use to play Wow on a RPPVP server so i have my RP experienses. Thank god i dident grow up at that time i would have just done around scaring people for life and just laugh like hell at there stupidity… Love the hat thing! If i knew i could have sent you my rise farmers hat! If you would have sent it back ofc! Once again Love you Spoony you kick ass! :D
I just need to say off the bat that I hate the new intro and like the old one. When I hear the old one it puts me in a good mood, this new one just irks and annoys me.
The new cover of the opening is OK, but the original pumped me up for the show more I've got to say. (I liked the 8-bit one if it's any consolation) o-o
I think the cover accurately describes the movie, in that it is a lie.
Yeah… as much as I can understand you wanting to showcase indie work and give props, the intro music really wasn't my thing. Not that it was bad. I just am not into that kind of rock.
I had no idea this movie existed, but I had heard a great deal about the stories about the evils of D&D and the college students, ect. I even read a couple of books lambasting the game. It was basically one writer piecing together snips of information taken out of context displayed from another writer. It was really bogus and I spotted the blatant ignorance even as a child and when the memories of this witch-hunt were fresh in the minds of americans and most people then still actually believed (and some still do) that D&D were tools of the occult. Of course if you look at the game now, it's about as violent and aggressive as Titan A.E. …heh heh. That poor movie.
And I always thought for some reason that Hanks' first film was Bachelor Party…how wrong I was.
Next time I'll just beware of the sacrilege.
AT LAST! :) I've been waiting for this one so long, and it was fabulous!Btw, nice pimp hat, Spoony.
Man…the mayor from Jaws is a dick. I think I just found a new “it's a trap” internet meme.
Yeah, the old intro with Yuna at the opening was the best in my mind. Just seemed like the bad video games and movies were begging to not be abused any more. Review was good though, one of my favorites so far.
Sweet Jesus Spoony, that new theme song fucking sucks. It's so slow and monotonous, like a 2009 Randy Orton Promo, and doesn't have any of the energy of the Irresponsibles.
What were you -thinking-, man? Revert ASAP, this theme just won't do at all.
Yay Call Of Cthulhu! Now that's a P&P game that will make people think you're a cultist.
Also… I feel like a major geek for recognizing the Monster A Go Go sample…Does anyone know where I can find that movie?
finally a nice review again!
i have to agree, i liked the old one better. even if it was a woman singing…well, so what? at least it was energetic and fun, and even had a bit of attitude. i found myself looking /forward/ to the theme song, if anything.
first, echoing a mutual concern: the old theme song was better. this isn't a complain based on a lack of acceptance for change, just…really. the other one is just plain better. the Irresponsibles have more musical talent than…whoever that was. besides, the injection of energy that the original theme gave made me personally /excited/ by time your review actually started.
second, i actually wasn't prepared for how funny this review came out. you've outdone yourself this time, Spoony. C:
oy, typeo. *complaint
There is nothing greater than being a boil on the consciousness of religiously conservative America. I can understand the great joy of disrupting the close-mindedness of this wasteland, making people irrationally fear and loathe you.
I didn't play D&D, was actually head of Fellowship of Christian Athletes at my school and was called a satanist by people that didn't know me. And they weren't religious nuts that lied about me and thought I was a satanist in fact they were all irreligious people that called me a satanist. The reason they did was cause I dressed weird and like “Christian Rock!” They didn't even know what I was listening to was Christian! Silly people are everywhere and they aren't just the Ned Flanders type either people just prejudge people that they feel are weird.
Amen to that, brother.
How many times Fred Jones acts as Admiral Ackbar “Its a trap” LOL
hmm, a lot of people seem to be complaining about the new intro theme, to be honest i like it. if you're planning on keeping it i think it would actually be a perfect Wrestle! Wrestle! theme song.
far as this episode goes, i always love it when you get a bit political and controversial with jokes that test people. this one in particular was just damn hilarious. man, you went through some serious crap in school. i'd tip my hat to you if i were wearing one.
for the intro, may i suggest a song from Filter, maybe from their ´short bus´ album. anyway, great review, i couldnt help by watch it twice.
As a DM I have that same look whenever my characters do something blisteringly stupid. You'd think i get used to it.
Thanks for the video, Spoony. I was surprised by the new theme song, but it's grown on me quite a bit, so I might have to look these guys up. I did the same with The Irresponsibles, so yeah.
When I was growing up, I didn't play D&D in school. As a matter of fact, even to this day I can count on one hand the number of D&D characters I've made and still have fingers left over. Instead, for me, it was FASA(Then FanPro, now Catalyst Game Labs)'s giant stompy robot game, BattleTech. Thanks to it's wholesome SCIENCE-y goodness, even my parents never had a problem with buying me books. My peers…well, you know how that goes. I did get a few odd looks when I brought out my first copy of the 2nd Edition Shadowrun book, though…
By the way, it might have come up before, but I'd like to know where you get all those awesome movie posters.
I remember when I was young I heard people talking about D&D and when I wanted in they refused me…Thats how pathetic my childhood was…
Only in America is it friggin' possible to be so superstitious and COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT RETARD to believe you're a huge cult member due to this …God I hate stupid people.
Sprode, like JJ, loves his funny hats. Especially the tin foil one.
Leave him be. He’s trying so hard to be considered “edgy” and “cool”. It’s kinda funny.
You'd think a DnD nerd might be interested in having graph paper for a wall. It should have been hexes and not squares though.
My older brother played D&D when he was in high school, and I wasn't cool enough to play with him and his friends. Think about the for a second I wasn't cool enough to play D&D. I think I'm the only person on the planet, what made it worse was my mom was the dungeon master and i still was aloud to play FML
“I run out of hats!”lol
You may say Harry Potter is harmless, but I watched ALL of Benet the Sages reading of My Immortal. Ya… I'll accept your apology now ;)
Will this be the last Tommy Wiseau joke? I'm serious, this is getting a little annoying. The review was still funny but seriously, stop. We all know it sucked that he took down The Room review. I hope this doesn't become a running gag for everyone at Channel Awesome or TGWTG.
Are you saying that America is full of stupid people, because if so, you might want to be quiet, less the GATE KEITHER shows up and banishes you to a party, IN CANADA!
Now I will mock you with a hearty American skronk! SKRONK!
Nah, not stupid, maybe just a lot of uneducated :/
“Nah, not stupid, maybe just a lot of uneducated :/”
I’d say that’s a problem with all nations. Just people tend to have their blind spots.
*Bows to Vanlan's superior tolerance for craptastic fanfiction* I tried so hard to watch those videos, even as background noise, but in the end her story was too awful for me. And I've read Tenchi on a Plate of Sashimi.
Not bad but when DEADLY PREMONITION lol
i smell trolls…
LMAO! Nice review Spoony, it was weird seeing Tom Hanksin a role like that.
I loved the part where you crack up about you computer Science degree andbeing stuck with a blue robot….
and also there can never be enough of Tommy Wiseau,hilarious……
“Codemonkeys” a cartoon show on G4 spoofed this.
I AM PARDUE THE TRAVELER!
I was so happy to finally learn about this movie—I could not understand Todd’s obsession with Pardue and then! Lightbulb! Made the cartoon infinity times funnier.
Awesome review. I always wondered why you hadn't done a review of this movie, despite you using the “Mazes and monsters is a far out game…” clip at least once before in a video. I loved the way you ended the reivew , and I got the reference to the “When I kill people it's purely for sexual reasons….WAIT!!!” line your Dragonstrike review.
Nice one spoonyone it also annoys me how people use scapegoats because I kill people with a wrist mounted chain saw for some reason people want to blame this game called madworld I don't know why
Edit: I'll add this on too but I saw this as a kid and I then picked up another movie called Aliens and put that in for a better time lol awesome huh
Ehhh, that new opening! It's no fun. D:
Ah, Spoony, this is a prime example of why I donate. Pure epic humor and nostalgia. Makes me wish I was more nerdy in middle school so I could've experienced the discrimination of playing a game like D&D. All I did was play video games. Psht. Whatever.
…Though I think when I was in middle school, the whole “zomg satanism” thing had blown over. I understand how that pentagram is considered satanic, though. My Wiccan friend, who was purely Wiccan and had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity or the devil, was criticized by my family for having a pentagram in his car back window, which was actually a positive symbol in Wicca (which I forget the meaning of, sorry), and it was like… “Dude, family, wtf? He doesn't worship Satan. He worships the Wiccan god of nature. How is that bad?” But I'm getting into a totally controversial and touchy subject now.
Back on topic, a totally enjoyable review. Oh, who I'd kill to be a part of your secret D&D games in grade school. …No, I kid. It would've been awesome, though.
Dude, I didn't even know that the whole D&D thing was such a big deal back then. Sort of reminds me of the stories my dad told me from back in the day with the controversy around rock'n roll (backmasking and other subliminal messages that will turn your children to the devil!!!) which he (and I) knew were absolute bull. The scare got to the point that his mom even checked his room one time to see if he had crack or weed, which he didn't have. The even more ironic part of it was that my dad's a pretty conservative, geeky Christian and is one of the most innocuous people I know. Based solely on what you've pointed out, this D&D scare was even more ridiculous since the demographic is far, far geekier than with rock. It's incredible how people find scapegoats where there are none to be found.
Anyways, this was a very funny review on such a horrible and strange movie. Also, I'm guessing the opening is a one time thing, like the 8-bit version you used one time(?). I really don't know why people are just assuming it's a permanent thing. :/
The fuck… (10:30 in the video) Spoony has a computer science degree??Nice to know that…
I'd never heard of this movie before, it sounds like the sort of trainwreck abortion carcrash I should seek out and use for shouting things at/drinking games.Great review though. Nobody ever called me a gay satanist in high school. With all the drama club and roleplaying I did, I almost feel like I missed out somewhere!In other news, Benzaie=lolz and yay for Joco music!
Travel and read some history.
Scarlet has posted on TSE facebook page that Spoony won't be doing anymore of Deadly Premonition, at least not knowa lot of others are reviewing it and he was mostly using it for testing some things<quote> Hey guys! I keep seeing questions about Final Fantasy X and Deadly Premonition. Spoony will likely NOT continue with Deadly Premonition, as he said that too many other people were doing LPs of that game, and it was more an experimental thing. The FFX review *will* continue, but not for a while. There's a backlog of oth…er projects in the works that need to be completed first. Thanks for your patience! ♥ – Scarlett</quote>
Question: Is it okay to be wary of Illegal Immigrants if they are antisemitic? Let's face it, ethnic nationalists aren't the most tolerant of people…
I love the new opening ^_^ . Best part of the entire episode was the part with the gunblade, I ended up laughing till my sides hurt
aww really :( i liked that review. epic sad face
New Opening is too much Serious Business and less Lighthearted Hilarity. Do not like.
Otherwise nice and shiny review.
New Intro is too much Serious Business and less Lighthearted Fun. Do Not Like.
Otherwise good review.
That got one of the biggest laughs out of me… Not only the line but the deliver sold it. Pure Gold.. This is easily one of my fav Spoony videos
They probably denied you because you were young and they wanted to go around slaughtering everything they found and you might have been doing things like “Let's make friends with the troll! He knows the woods better than we do!”
I had a nightmare that I was stuck playing marvel ultimate alliance like tom hanks in this movie after watching this video.
I was so excited to see the video review was coming. I read all your written reviews, and I even have a few old issues of Knights of the Dinner Table magazine and Shadis kicking around somewhere. This was a good one, especially when you were wearing your gym shorts on your head. I did that with my spandex in Boot Camp and pretended to be a pharoah.
Oh god was that a monster a go go joke?
Mike > Joel
Flame war GO!
Wow… the new opening sounds like the kind of song a highschool band would write if the only music they ever heard was written by linkin park.Really really terrible and almost defining lame.
this was shot BEFORE NC review, so sorry if it feels redundant people
As a Frenchman, do you really think Wiseau _is_ French, or is he more of an interstellar nationality?
So this is what started Tom Hanks on comedy and surrealism.
I got a better question. Is it okay to be wary of illegal immigrants since they're committing a crime?
Well, yes, but I greatly fear the Spoony One’s ban hammer.
I really don't like the new opening ;_;
The review was great. The new opening was bad. Mike Nelson was better than Joel. I think I summed up a large part of the comments here.
I agree. This country is plagued with idiots.
To the nerd reference, good thing you didn't hear about Otakon here in Baltimore.
Mike was def better than Joel but everyone here has to be in their 20s to be sync'd with spoony's references, so they're (like me) the people who were only old enough to get into MST3k during the Mike years. And, as someone who knew MST3k originally from Mike and then went back to watch Joel seasons I was never able to shake the feeling that it was .. less than. Trace -> Bill Corbett as crow is a big part of that feeling too. RIFFTRAX > CINEMATIC TITANTIC TOO !
Really funny Spoony, Don't kill anybody with a limit break now.
I have to say that Mike had more natural charisma as the host of MST3K.
Huh, so it really is purely for sexual reasons…
Glad I missed this movie….though I have to say I'm probably going to track it down so I can see the whole thing for myself. Also, this vid probably has the best freakout moment from Spoony yet!
Honestly Spoony, I don't know if you read all the comments on your website or not, but I had to tell you about the new intro you made for your videos, to be frank..
IT SUCK ASS..
The heavy metal track is horrible, the typography is amateurish, the video editing is crap-tastics!
Although your old intro was horrible, but that was EPIC comparing it to this piece of shit.
Get professional help stat! For video editing I mean. :)
I think most of the big scares of each era seem totally bewildering a few years down the track. But yeah, the D&D scare was probably one of the silliest ever. I think it wasn't taken quite as seriously in my country as in America, but I can still recall television reviewers hailing “Mazes and Monsters” as a really important movie, a deeply thoughtful, realistic and balanced response to a major social problem, blah, blah, blah. Now, of course, it's a joke.
I'm sure I've had that GM look more then once with a player of mine in our Star Wars RPG group. The problem is that he hasn't done anything his bounty hunter(SW fighter) hasn't been able to survive yet. He's even insisted once that we split the party when sneaking into a dark factory leading to himself and a partner stuck on some catwalks that had guys that had shot at the rest of us. One of the group was Sullustan and they can see in the dark but not well enough to know it was them up there so the rest of us ended up shooting at them both. At the end of the same fight we cornered the guy we were after and instead of a stun blast he opted to start a boxing match with the guy that he knew was an expert boxer. Maybe we should have let him kill him after connecting the knockout punch now that i think about it…..
You see, I kill people to stop the evil galactic overlord Zoron from taking over the earth via his minions, which although they look human are in fact green-horned amphibians from Antiquenite 4.
I have this all on very good authority because the Governing galactic body and the forces for good from Xenex 7 have implanted a microchip in my brain so I can always hear their voices giving me new missions.
My psychiatrist – who is in fact a green-horned amphibian from Antiquenite 3 that lost its memory when it fell to earth escaping from Zoron – tells me that it's all in my head, but I know the truth that the antipsychotics she prescribes are in fact blockers that stop the microchip from receiving messages from the galaxy beyond. So I have to keep tipping them down the drain to disguise the fact that I can't take them because ZORON MUST BE DESTROYED!
… btw, your intro kinda sucks a little now. I really liked the old one – mostly cause the song was so damn catchy – but this one, er, doesn't quite seem to cut it. Go back to the old ways! (Awesome review).
Great review but I find it dissapointing that “beware the sacrilege” isnt an internet meme, i just laugh everytime I hear it and think it took several takes just for him to say that with a straight face and not burst with laughter.
The thing people have to understand about Jack Chick is that he sees the Devil behind the following:
Rock musicMormonsMuslimsCatholicsNon judgemental ProtestantsGay peopleEvolutionHippiesWorld history since the 9th Century(Possibly) LOLcats
Everything is a giant conspiracy to keep people from converting to Evangelical or Fundamentalist Christianity, especially pop culture. This is why the guy writes and sometimes draws these little cartoon tract booklets that you might see tacked to a corkboard at a laundromat. I went to school with Fundamentalist wingnuts and they wouldn't touch a Chick tract with a 15 foot pole because he was too extreme (and these were the same peckerheads who would run gross anti-abortion films in chapel.)
the people that informed him about these supposed conspiracy theories on that list of yours comes from people who’s bullshit claims have been refuted, my favorite being rebbeca brown who supposedly converted a witch who married satan she has a book on that and if your a fan of the insanity that is jack chick then browns book called “he came to set the captives free” is somthing you should check out considering its one of jack chicks top sources
Honestly, koldstare, I don't know if you read replies to all your comments on this website or not, but I had to tell you about this comment in response to the Mazes and Monsters video, to be frank..
IT SUCK ASS
The grammar is just terrible, there wasn't actually an ounce of constructive criticism to be found, at no point did you actually point out where in the video his stuff looks amateurish or use any details to substantiate any point at all.
Although your screen name is pretty horrible, it sounds like a work of creative genius in comparison to your half assed criticisms.
Get professional help stat! May I suggest MS Word of firefox to check spelling and proofreading future posts =)
Spoony, when are we going finally going to get a review of The Room? You've made a few references (Benzaie in this one, the Wiseau-verse in Warrior 2), but doesn't a movie as transcendently awful as The Room merit a full review from you? We treat you like a PRENCESS, AND YOU STAB US IN THE BOCK! DO YOU UNDERSTAND LYFE? DO YOUUUUUUU?!?
I think you're underselling Joel's sleepy, affable charm! They are like my children. It would be impossible for me to pick a favorite.
Nostalgia Critic did it. But it got taken down cause Wiseau is a pussy.
Yeah why do people have this view? I mean of my gaming group the closest thing to suicidal person is the guy who regularly gets alcohol poisoning at college. The closed to to insanity is the guy with ADD.
THE HATS! HAAAHAAHAHA! plus the amphetamine addiction, erotic murder, and the useless degree breakdown made this the best review i've ever seen. oh yeah and the gunblade… YOU'RE TEARING ME APART SPOONY!
And a 911 joke! this is pure win.
Everything between Spoony's WWE Entrance Theme and Benzaie was brilliant. Not that the Benzaie cameo was -bad-, it just felt unnecessary.
Actually…take it from someone who grew up reading Jack Chick's shit. He's just bugfuck insane and is using fundamentalist Christianity to spread the crazy.
there is another non-english 2000 movie w/ a similar plot, i think its called “heart of the warrior” or something
If anyone can read even a panel of a “Chick Tract” without realising the author is a fucking looney should probably be forced to undergo sterilisation.
Ass-pained much? :p
16:32 spoony's pose with a pink hat :) lol
people think the opening sucks? i think it's cool :/
I don't want to say I collect them, but I actually will read them if I find them because their level of insanity is kind of funny when it's not terrifying. :P
ABOUT THE NEW SONG
it was good but it gives the show a different sorta feel since the style is so different, so when you just opened the review like you always do it was really jarring. i dunno. take that with a grain of salt
Very good review overall and I may never be able to look at Tom Hanks the same way again. Also about the new song, people he said in the past that he wants to try some new versions but they are in no way permeant. Spoony was just trying something different. However I do agree with Jumpooleez that it was jarring going from the heavy metal opening to your usually cheerful opening.
Holy shit, I just burst out laughing when Angry Joe showed up as the “illegal immigrant”. That's a low blow, Spoony. But hilarious.
This was one of your best yet spoony.\You and Ben and few others should do a remake of the room. LOL
love the new intro, but i would love to have seen in it the doctor Insane transformation
Don't worry. He wasn't kidknapped. They just went LARPing.
I game where you play as a fictional character and the sole purpose is to make a load a money better start recalling all those games of monopoly its fucking evil i tell you
And Clue… since in that game you might just end up a murderer.
I don't get the hate on the theme song cover. I'd kill to have someone write me a theme song, and to have it covered by ANYBODY would be an honor. How many of you have your own online-show theme song? I don't even like that style of music, but I enjoyed the new, different opening all the same. Explain, internet. Explain.
Preference for the original version?
I'm surprised more people didn't harp on that. It was the first thought I had at that line.
Bayonetta cameo ftw!
btw, thanks for the info about the whole Mazes and Monsters book. i never heard of of this story or where it came from.
New intro = dislike, The review was awesome though
Well, it looks like you do read the replies. Don't that beat all? And to answer your question, not really. I rather enjoy pointing out people's foolishness to them. As someone who is fueled by pettiness, it makes me smile and reinforces my inordinate belief in my own intellectual superiority to the average shmo.
yea, gotta agree, not a fan of the new intro. i like the mood of the original which was fun. this new one is all angry and metal…
I can totally relate to the whole “degree becoming completely useless” bit…right down to the type of degree. Yeesh. Although I can't say much about the robot.The intro's not bad. A little different.
did you know that the scorce of alot of jack chicks anti rock and roll and D&D crap came from a man named john todd who the pastor at the end of the chick tract “dark dungeons is modeled after, who had been denounced as a fraud and has been under investegation for forming convens to meet with under age girls and im not kidding about that. and for anti catholic conspiricy theories was a man named alberto rivera a man who would make up stories about his time training to be a priest for the catholic church and steal money from people under the guise needing to build a school. you can look them up on wikipedia and get the whole story.
I recommend that everyone read a few Jack Chick tracksthey're so fucking bad and batshit insane, they're awesome
You're such a hilariously bad actor, Spoony, but I still love you. Also, is that bit about MIT true, or is it just malarkey?
Obscurus Lupa reviewed it before him. NC set a precedent by doing that that anyone on the site can review it. So…
My take is that both Jack T. Chick AND Fundamentalist Christianity are bugfuck insane, because what he rambles on about is just an amplified version of the crap you would hear about in chapel on Wednesdays (the Smurfs are Satanic, Fleetwood Mac is Satanic, Jews are going to Hell because they won't “complete the covenant” and covert, yadda-yadda-blah-blah-blah) except that in Chick's version the last panel of the comic has the Devil laughing HAW-HAW-HAW. It's very hard to hate people for even existing and still try to convert them, but Chick found a way.
I kept thinking you'd throw in a Scott Hall reference whenever “The Great Hall” was brought up.
Ahahah, I don't think I stopped laughing from the moment you said “call the national guard!”
anyone else think that the blond haired guy's performance is like Reb Brown in 'Captain America'?
I think I'm the only person that liked the new intro.
I like the new song. However, I don't like it paired with you. Can we go back to the old the song? It just doesn't seem like you, Spoony. You're more upbeat and funny… This new song sounds kind of hardcore to be what about you are.
Nice 28 Days Later reference near the beginning.
And WOW those people take their D&D game too seriously. Playing with twenty billion candles? I'm surprised the girl didn't catch her hair on fire.
I get the feeling th new intro is a one-off thing emulating the way the Nerd has a bajillion versions of his theme that fans have made for him – I remember Spoony saying in an earlier video he wanted to do the same…
Spooney admitted he is a Gay Satanist.
Spooney now I have a image of you getting ass pounded by the devil.
Thank you for aknowledging my fantasy.
ya new intro does not fit. Still awesome review and the last bit knocked me on my ass trying to keep from laughing to loud.
More like a deer in headlights, but then he was supposed to “balance out” the hat fetishist, the gamer chick, and Insane Tom Hanks….it failed miserably, but that was what he was supposed to do.
cool new comment box :o
That rant about MIT and the software companies was the funniest thing I've ever heard!!!
I don't like the Nu Metal, Noah.
It's not as good as the original.
I am LOVING that The Room reference! Oh god…'nam flashbacks of Tommy Wiseau ass…..OH GOD.
Well, not really. Opinion on it is overwhelmingly negative, but there are a number of people who like it. ^_^;
The cover of Break Me is painfully bad. Even the 8-Bit version was WAY better. That said, holy crap! I'd heard about all that fearmongering bullshit about D&D, but I didn't get any prejudice for my gaming ways… (Not specifically, anyway, I still got the run-of-the-mill Nerd treatment like everyone else :D ) Perhaps the Great White North is a little more removed from the whole Hellfire and Damnation insanity our American friends seem to enjoy so much, but JEEZUS CHRIST!
LOVE your rant at 10:16ish, Spoony! My GF almost choked when she saw it :). Also, love the Monster A-Go-Go riff, but I think I was the only one in the room who got it.
What a bullshit movie. Ah, well. Spoon on, brotha.
Excellent review Mr Spoony! I quite love the usage of Philip Glass' excellent score from Koyaanisqatsi! I'm a huge, huge fan so as soon as I heard the music kick in at the beginning my appreciation of you and your work just went from “a hell of a lot” to “following you like the leader of an occult cult of gay satanists” … or words to that effect. :)
LOL a gay satinist.
I remember that psycho bitch that hated Harry Potter!Did you know that the woman that called Harry Potter a sacrilege didn't actually READ the series because “God told her not to”? I personally think that she's delusional…but thats my humble opinion.
Scott Hall and “great” do not belong in the same sentence if referencing each other, unless “great” is followed by “-ly past his prime.” :p
I'd say she was bat-shit crazy, not just delusional.
My thoughts on the theme, since that's the popular topic for the comments, I like the cover version, I'm impressed that someone was able to cover “Break Me,” and I'd throw it on my playlist. That said, it didn't match up well with this video, which I think might be part of most peoples' problem. If it'd been on video that was a little more metal, people woulda hated it less (I'm not naive enough to think they'd change to liking it :p ).
Creating your own campaign at 9th level?…Does that mean you need to play a character and you suddenly unlock being able to DM at only level 9?.. Ow… my brain… this movie is retarded beyond comprehension.
Lesson learned: Never eat – at least, not popcorn – while watching a Spoony review. I almost choked seeing Spoony's hat changes alone (I won't ask where the shiny pink cowboy hat came from ;); it's awesome how he can be hilarious without even needing to say or do anything (though the commentary certainly didn't hurt). Another wonderful job, Spoony, and thanks for once again making me proud to be a nerd. 8-)
Mazes And Monsters is a far out game!
By the way who is the evil Ahk Ohga? That guy Frelik the utlimate warrior in his youth wanting to slay Hoke Hogan and in an occasion of partial stutering called him Ahk Ohga?
What is everyone's problem with a Mainstream Rock sound? Sheesh, I loved that cover version. I want to see him use it much more often!
the old intro was better. old but better. no offense.
You know what bothers me the most about this movie? The clerics using a knife and not a blunt weapon like a mace.
I'm a Catholic and even I think She's Bat-Shit insane!!!!!
I am Smizmar the Cleric! Being only third level, I can only comment on reviews of horrible movies made by people who don't know what the heck they (the movie makers) are talking about!
I guess I got lucky. My mother played origonal D&D way back when so I never had any of that 'OMG! EEEEEEEEEEEVILLLLL!' reaction from her. I DID get it from a religious nut of a classmate, though. I could never convince him I was not learning real magic..though what I would not have given for a Silence spell. :P
I love Spoonys Stuff. Has me wishing I could make a review on the new Castlevania HD on XBL arcade..but I lack anything more than a plug-n-play webcam, so it would be grainy video of me playing and commenting..How thrilling. :P
The guy who got me into playing D&D was part of the old guard (The guys who knew what “Chainmail” the game was and could tell you what “Blackmoor” was), and I grew up smack dab in the middle of the great D&D satanism craze. The hysteria really was as bad as it's made out to be.
Still, this movie along with the “Dark Dungeons” religious tract is actually considered required viewing for my group, especially the younger whipper-snappers. The camp value laughs are just too much.
I love your Mythbusters t-shirt, Spoony! :Dand great video as aways
People tend to irrationalize things because it gives them something to do. The thought of something going in the opposite way they want it to always makes them think of it as “evil”. Personally, I despise D&D, but not because of the Satanism, I just really hate it. Probably because I never really got into it, but I can at least respect the people who DO like it.
Is there any mp3 for the new opening song. Its Great
Just youtube “living illusion break me.” It should be the first link that comes up. Unfortunately, there's no full song; only the 58 second intro.
That getup with the headset and shades reminds me a wee bit of Dr Disrespect from MachinimaRespawn. I could be wrong about that though. lol
Benzaïe's 'Tommy' is better acted than Wiseau'skilling to get an erection? who are you, Ichi the killer?
maybe it was done as a joke but in the 2002 flash back the french one has PlayStation 3 games on the shelf behind him
maybe it was done as a joke but in the 2002 flash back the french one has PlayStation 3 games on the shelf behind him
17:23 – LOST reference?
The fuck is that fuck is that fuck is that
the quality looks awful for a dvd
You likely just had a bad group. Those are a dime a dozen. Like anything, it takes time and effort to find the good ones.
D&D is absolute hell with the wrong DM or set of players. It’s worse than hell if you have both.
Gotta say I loved this one. Can’t stop laughing thinking about all the ignorant morons thinking DnD, harry Potter etc. is dangerous and evil.
Yes, because we didn’t have crazy people and killers before this, nooooooooo.
Keep it up Spoony. Excuse me while I level up my Goliath Warden.
Benzai is the definitely the best Tommy Wiseau
They’re not dolls, they’re miniatures!!!
This is what happens when you try to make a cleric without sufficient wisdom score.
if you go to their website they have a free download for the song on the main page
I just cracked at the scene where he starts realizing his life XD
I’m not sure why D&D manages to conjure up such strong feelings for you, but it’s nice that you haven’t gone Chick on us all.
The hysteria was cwazy. My parents bought into it too.
One of the best quotes, by the way, came from a priest whose name I forget. “Roleplaying games are LSD for the soul.” Oh man, if only.
You should have played it up. Made him think that he had better treat you well.
No, I actually had a “decent” group, by my standards, I just got bored out of my mind.
There’s really no point in talking about it; I don’t like the game, so I stopped playing. You can enjoy it if you do, but I just don’t.
Funny story. That woman was part of a splinter congregation (basically a rogue denomination that is not officially recognized) who the pastor of my church debated when the anti-Harry Potter stuff was at it’s height. He (my pastor) was arguing that this whole hysteria was, in fact, foolish and that the Potter books were actually good for children (citing apologists, theologians, psychologists, sociologists who recommended the books and the like and mentioning that Rowling was a Christian writer in the vein of Alighieri, Lewis and Tolkien).
Their (the fruitcake’s) response? Even if the Church, the Bible, and everyone else disagreed with them, they (the splinter group of Harry-Haters) would go forward because “we knew better”.
So yeah. Once again, we have a case of a fruitcake who has an agenda all their own.
But the story has a happy ending: my pastor impressed a collector who was in attendance during the debate who awarded him with a 1938 copy of The Hobbit…that was signed by JRR Tolkien himself.
Isn’t the bum in the subway scene the old guy from Strike Commando and Yor ?
Turn Undead!!! TURN UNDEAD!!!
I love Spoony’s old, world-weary cop voice. “I’d be blowin’ sunshine up yer ass if I said that was true…” Classic.
I’m surprised Spoony didn’t mention a major plotpoint in the movie… the “Great Hall” was a delusion of Robby’s brother named Hall, who died a long time ago. So “joining the Great Hall” in looney-speak meant that he was going to join his dead brother. The movie completely fails at its intended message because Robby was bonkers because of a tragic loss, not a roleplaying game. If anything, it’s a PSA against people who have dead family, because, according to the movie, they might go batshit at any moment and kill you in a delusional episode. <_ _>
Awesome and hysterical review. I’ve watched it like a dozen times. Though I did notice a continuity hiccup in the flashback: 2002 to Benzai has a bunch of PS3 games when PS3 didn’t exist until 2006. Then again, the movie had the EXACT SAME CONTINUITY bit, so was that intentional?
Call of Cthulhu!! :DD
Just wondering, since it’s been close to a year since you’ve last talked about it, but how is 4th edition holding up? Have you tried Pathfinder yet?
Speaking as a ‘nerd’ I WILL get violent over the whole Joel/Mike issue
I liked this intro more than the usual. Alternative metal is nice. I prefer heavier types of metal (the type your parents probably despises the most; death metal and its subgenres, though I do listen to almost all of it… symphonic black metal, industrial metal, progressive metal, power metal, folk metal, New Wave of British heavy metal — you name it!), but any metal is better than no metal in my book! Except oldschool black metal… I’d even take Paramore over that, any day.
Oh, I’m drifting off. Sorry. I just had a little chance of sharing my love for music (yes, music!) there.
Very entertaining episode though as always, Mr. Spoony.
Lol Awesome review as always Spoony, and I agree with you, the whole stereotype, grouping thing is utterly moronic … Oh and the scene were you satirized your own life xDDD!!!!! Turn Undead! TURN UNDEAD!!! (P.S. Nice hat collection :D)
Goddammit Tom Hanks, now I can never see Toy Story the same way again.
Also Bayonetta FTW.
Hmmm, can’t say I have ever played D&D. Where I come from, the big game is Magic The Gathering. I do agree with your hatred for scapegoats, especially when it does come to things like violent video games. I am a psychology major, and have actually studied the theory that violent video games and television shows and similar things cause people to be more violent. As of yet, there is no substantial evidence to prove that violent games cause long term effects. Short term they can do things like increase adrenaline and raise blood pressure, but even then, actual violence isn’t very likely. One has to already be incredibly mentally unstable to be affected.
ok, now that I am of my psychology soap box…great review Spoony. I enjoyed the different hats, and, as usual, was laughing almost the entire time :D
You should’ve put Admiral Ackbar’s “It’s a Trap” right after THE BEST LOOK A DM EVER GAVE!
other wise great review…. Tom Hanks….. I dont think i’ll be the same again…
Beware the Sacrilege!
LMAO the Jack’s tattoos was great
and ROFL to the killing people to get erections!
Argh, I hate all stereotypes associated with nerd-om. They’re almost as bad as the stereotypes that come with liking heavy metal or “emo” music. I THOUGHT WE HAD MOVED PAST ALL OF THIS GUYS. Aren’t we supposed to be an accepting society or something? That’s what everyone says. You have to be tolerant. WELL TOLERATE MY GEEKINESS then we’ll talk.
Also, the heavy metal opening sequence is AWESOME. (And where did you get those hats?!)
Yay! Bayonetta! o/
I wonder what your neighbors thought when they heard you scream, “I’m gonna burn this mother down to the ground!”
wow benzaie can time travel because the gun blade part takes place in 2002 when the room was released in 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow benzaie must be able to time travel because the gun blade part is in 2002 when the room was released in 2003!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow benzaie must be able to time travel because the gun blade part was in 2002 when the room was released in 2003!!!!!!!!
sorrys on the triple post
Too bad those were only rumors. It’d be pretty cool if you were a gay Satanist.
what is sad is my my fire and brimstone christian parents still believe in all this stuff. I still play it anyways ITS A FUCKING BOARD GAME!! GET OVER IT!!. I feel ya spoony i am a student in high school and this ridiculous propaganda still hasn’t went away.
I must quote the best thing from Spoony’s text review of this film:
(On the remodeled hospital bathroom bedroom)”Why, the Myers family loved my work, and so did that nice Voorhees family!”
I nearly died of laughter from this.
we dont get DnD over here like atall lol so i don’t get the fuss really, tho it does seem a bit extreme too blame games for missing 20 year olds lmao
I never played much DnD until after I graduated, but my dad’s always told me the tales of religion vs DnD and how stupid and silly the whole argument got. One of the guys I played with is part of a hardcore religious family, and he was talking with one of the priests one day who actually got really snappy at him when he mentioned he played. It’s pretty funny, I don’t think some of them will ever get over it.
On a side note, Good review. Props for Jonathon Caulton’s “I feel fantastic”, I found myself singing the lyrics without realizing it. =P
I don’t think it’s “religion vs. DnD” insomuch as it is “Panicky authority figures doing what they usually do”:
It’s like I said before: one of the worst (and only scream outs) I got was from the parents of one of my younger players. They were atheists themselves and they barged into the comic shop where we held the game, pulled their kid out and accused me of “poisoning his mind” with “magical thinking” all in an attempt to “convert him to Christianity”. They called D&D a “Religious Indoctrination System”. The thing is, I knew them. I went to school with their eldest son. Yet, they just snapped on me
Weird stuff. I guess it varies from place to place. But in the end I guess every so often you’ll find wacky folks in every group.
Hail for the douche!!!
Hey Vin Disel plays D&D you know….right…its all stupid.
Both my parents played DnD so when I tried it back in middle school, my dad actual gave me his old guides. I never really got into it, but it was fun while it lasted.
21:22 – 22:04 was pure genius.
I love you, Spoony
That’s silly according to the 3rd ed book of exalted deeds the vow of celibacy only give a +4 bonus vs charm effects nothing about powering up spells. :P
Wait… penicillin WAS discovered by accident…
Thats the point of the joke. Discovering penicilin by accident is as rare as discovering a hot chick that played D&D in the 80′s.
It’s Ironic how religious groups blame games like D&D or Doom, and yet they ignore it when their own followers go insane and do things based on the bible.
My nanna used to be a nurse and she tended to mentally ill people who though they were Jesus or Moses.
She and other hospital staff had to restrain and subdue many of these ‘I’m Jesus” people to prevent them from jumping off a building to prove that they can fly.
Dont forget the fanatics who kill others because “God told me to”..Oh, and the people who sneak into the zoo/circus at night and climbed into a Lion Den/cage at the Zoo to try and tame a lion, bible style, and end up being mauled to death.
D&D, Doom, Harry Potter and even The Bible dont make people do bad things….People who are insane do bad things and blame it on those things as an excuse.
Same thing for secular groups who pull that same argument (like that atheist parents union who tried to ban the game in the 80s and early 90s, or certain overblown demagogues or nosy ass senators). They all seem to ignore when one of their own blows a fuse and causes mayhem based on what they read or were told.
Of course, as both more level headed religious and secular groups point out, just as those who do that crap were nuttier than a honey log being shot at by a pecan machine gun and thus blaming what they read or heard is to miss the point, so does blaming DnD when a guy starts going after New Yorkers with a pocket knife while dressed like Harry Potter’s coke addict cousin completely obscure the issue.
I’d argue that my cleric does indeed have the Fly spell, but that’s only because I have the travel domain and it’s a domain spell both in 3rd ed and Pathfinder, however I don’t know about 1st edition not to mention the writers clearly knew nothing about D&D and made up a lot of crap.
I know it’s been a while since this review was posted, but I couldn’t resist to watch it again, I love it.
Greetings from Spain!
I first saw this waaaay back when it first aired on TV, and thought it was a crying shame that *I* didn’t have anyone to larp with, because it looked like a lot of fun. I also thought that roleplaying games looked pretty cool.
XD That’s right, it was “Mazes & Monsters” that got me started RP-ing. XD Oh, the irony.
I also thought it was completely retarded to blame the game for something that was clearly only affecting ONE person out of the group. And watching it knowing what I know now, it would have been reaaly nice if they’d done a little bit of research and come up with an actual mental illness (say schitzophrenia (sp?)) to portray, intead of just “and then he’s all like, ‘I am a holy man lol’” or whatever.
Also also: Considering the rumours that were flying around at about this same time that Procter & Gamble was run by Satanists (apparently started by a disgruntled ex-employee) I find it HILARIOUS that they helped produce this. XD
Damn it, Spoony, you missed a golden opportunity at the end! You should have cut Admiral Ackbar in when Fred from Scooby Doo said “It’s a trap.” Because lame internet jokes never get old.
I love the video you’re linking to so i will put a re-link to it
on the calendar it looks like 1983 not 1982.
the calendar looks like it says 1983 not 1982.
theres blood on my gunblade!
that one nerd was wearing a RvB “i hate babies” caboose shirt…i got a kick out of that.
anyway, i never played D&D but from what i seen its probably less harmful than those Japanese card games.
15:41 This is what we call the DM ‘oh shit’ look. Like he (in the case of my brother’s boyfriend our DM) just realized how entirely stupid you just were and how catastrophically screwed your character is, and they struggle to find a way to salvage your character and the campaign. X3
“….and they struggle to find a way to salvage your character and the campaign.”
I never bothered with that. A pc dies, then a pc dies. It has always been my view that a DM should force a player to live (or die, as the case may be) with their choices in-game.
im suprised you didnt make a bosom buddies joke when he was running with the girl.
Now I am imagining a box running around the city kidnapping people. It could be a Syfy movie.
You know that blood on the gunblade thing actually happened… well kinda. There were three dudes in my hometown (eindhoven) who’d dress up like Squall, Zell and Seifer. They went to the same rockbar I usually went and that was the first time I ever saw cosplayers, before I even knew what the heck cosplaying was. I recognised them from the game, but I never had the urge to talk to them, cause even then I could tell that FF8 was shit.
Anyway apparently Zell’s father was a drunkard prick and eventually they tried to kill him with knives and hammers (who can blame them though, they probably finished FF8 multiple times… anyone would be batshit insane by then). They didn’t succeed though and were sentenced to 3 to 5 years in a hospital for the criminally insane.
Now that this video made me thinking about this it’s kind of weird that I couldn’t find any publishings to back this story up (aside from some dutch gaming websites). But I’m not making this up, I’ve read the article in the local newspaper way back (this happened in 2003). I guess the media witchhunt against games wasn’t in it’s prime back then.
Hey! I wear hats!
Ahh I know this is an old review, but it still makes me want that “beware the sacrilege” shirt
Hey… Something that bothered me is that he tells them where he is. New York. As a matter of fact that detective acts like Robbie didn’t contact them and they just got worried about him being gone for a long time but he called them… It’s also the only way the tower pilgrimage can be introduced. Maybe they glean it as it does look obvious but he is crazy. They can’t tell that is a map of New York and the Twin Towers from the drawing. THEY KNEW WHERE HE WAS! Did they just not tell the cop? Then why did they tell him about something that would get them possibly arrested? Trespassing in an off-limits cave! WHY DIDN’T YOU POINT THIS OUT!?! AUGH!
Go to post-secondary school now while you still can because god knows that when the future comes, the post-secondary schooling you went for is now completely fucking useless and you’ll be stuck at home with your annoying parents trapped forever in a hopeless fucking purgatory with a fucking futon bed and Ikea furniture playing still going to school and playing around the free parts of the internet AND I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE! WTF HAS BECOME OF MY LIFE!! I’M GOING TO BURN THIS WHOLE FUCKING PLACE TO THE GROUND!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
*board moderator injects morphine into his post*
I love you Spoony! *creepy smile and stare*
Seriously thought, I can totally relate to what you said and I found it fucking hilarious. LOL wtf…
Feh…they said this about Werewolf “The Apocalypse” >:C
“It inspires devil worship and makes kids uninterested in the education they must have. Marilyn Manson is responsible for Vampire ” The Masquerade” apparently.
I just realized something for the 9:40 section:
Wouldn’t a video-game designer and software developer be in practically the same educational fields (math, science and technology)? Also, if he’s going to a university, ANY university, wouldn’t it still potentially give him lots of options and a good/great job? (And I’m not even gonna talk about other real-life variables that affect actually having a job…)
Are the writers THAT stupid?
I’ve heard from a friend of mine (who may or may not be correct) that employers theses days look upon degrees from elitist universities (like Harvard) with a certain degree of suspicion because many if not most of the students in those kind of schools are having their way payed through by their rich parents. Whereas middle-of-the-road schools are mostly full of people from working-class families who work hard to earn their way through so they can have a better chance a good career.
I too am a nerd. I know the pain.
Who here isn’t?
I just realized, it’s not the gamers who can’t tell the difference between fantasy and reality. It’s the paranoid nut balls who criticize gamers who truly believe in witches and mystic cults. *They’re* the delusional ones, not us!
While you are right about the nutballs who believe in games “corrupting the youth”, I wouldn’t let all gamers off the hook. Trust me, there are quite a few I’ve either met personally or read of in case histories who are nutty enough to do this crap.
The key is to understand that everyone who matches that description was disturbed BEFORE they started gaming, due to conditions outside of gaming and just used it as an excuse.
In fact, all of the kids in ‘Mazes and Monsters’ had pre-existing psychological boo-boos. Like the kid with an oppressive mother who makes radical, invasive changes to his son’s room without listening to what HE wants.
You know what, I think the game AGREES with you, without knowing so.
Oh thank you Spoony. Thank you so much. Your breakdown about a useless college degree gave me so much laughter and joy…seeing as how I’m the same way. God Bless you, man!
I too know the pain of nerdom. All the other kids laughing at you and making fun of you because you’re the only one who’s seen Aliens….. At nights I dream they understand…..
I’ve gotten that thousand-mile stare before…
Hey, i have seen what D&D can do to a person.
I think you should think before you critizise this movie, it is exagerated but over all pretty true to reality of those who play too much.
Please be careful.
Yeah….no. Sorry, it only happens to those with pre-existing conditions.
Well…you go ahead and play then.
but dont go complainin when you start getting wacked out and depressed though.
you were warned. If i saw my children playing D&D i would slap some sense into them.
It is just a too much of a risk to play around with even if not all get the negative feelings these kind of games may bring. You just never know…
“You just never know… ”
Actually, I know plenty. I’m a Mental Health Counselor specializing in Crisis Intervention. Which is why I can tell you with professional certainty that the game is not the problem (in fact, I use modified role playing games as therapeutic instruments to help my younger clients deal with trauma and learn coping skills) . Any “negative feelings” do not come from such games (or any game for that matter), they arise from within the client. Now if the person in question is very disturbed, then activities which involve stressful situations and personality re-imagining can exacerbate a pre-existing condition. However, as previously noted, this is due to a pre-existing condition and NOT the game itself.
The reality is that role playing games such as D&D can be very useful in promoting critical thinking, stress management, interpersonal coping mechanisms, and more.
I hope you are lying now because if you really do work as a mental health counselor and tricks poor sick people who trusts you and are willing to do anything to get better into gambling with such games you really ought to get fired and investigated by the authorities. Such behaviour would be absolutely despicable.
No gamble, just science in practice.
In fact, the ACA and the APA both have journals dedicated to various forms of roleplaying and roleplaying games used for therapeutic purposes.
Why don’t you read
“The Drama Within: Psychodrama and Experiential Therapy” by Dr. Tian Dayton and learn a bit about the subject? You’ll see that it is nothing to fear.
You are both brilliant and patient. The world needs more people like you.
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.
Are you mentally handicapped and/or insane? Do you even KNOW what Dungeons & Dragons is? How it is played? Wanna know what a basic Friday night was for me and my D&D and other RPG playing friends in middle and high school? We sat at a comic book shop, playing D&D, Magic The Gathering, Mageknight, and other tabletop games. Note that we weren’t out getting drunk, doing drugs, or breaking the law. We were using our brains and using our imaginations to have a good time. We were PLAYING A GAME.
If you believe that D&D instills negative feelings, you’re obviously some closeminded absentee mother who believes everything she sees on television. You shouldn’t let your child play Operation, because they might just be under the false pretenses that they can perform dangerous and illicit surgeries! Better not let them play Clue, because then they and their friends will get together, murder someone, and then find out who did it! Better not let them even THINK about playing Guess Who, because before you know it your children will be stalking and tormenting innocent bystanders!
Are you beginning to see the ridiculously flawed logic by which your brain works? It’s insane to think that just because a bunch of stoned teenagers in the 1970s got high on LSD and then decided to have a real LARP fest. Why does no one blame the drugs for that incident? Why does no one blame the absentee parents? Because ever ridiculous crusade needs a scapegoat, and boy oh boy was Dungeons & Dragons ever a good one. All because it allows you to assume the role of a fantastic character and go on adventures. Better hide those Choose Your Own Adventure books (or ANY book for that matter) from your kids! Hell, you need to hide the freaking BIBLE too, because there is far worse written in the Bible than there ever was in any D&D book.
It’s insane morons like you who ruined video games for us adults, people like you who decimated television and radio into the mind-numbing crapshoot that it is. You don’t want your kids playing? Fine. But you need to hide them from EVERYTHING ELSE in the world that has them using their imaginations. Get over yourself.
Yeah, something tells me that he/she was just a poe.
No one EVER blames the parents. Even though they are at fault most of the time for letting their kids actions go unchecked.
Every time a parent lets their minor aged kid buy an ‘M’ rated game, see and ‘R’ rated movie, do drugs, rob convenience stores, and kill people, I blame the grown adult who has complete reign over the little fuckers life and can lock them in their room whenever they deem fit.
You haven’t once elaborated on any proof as to how this game does any of the things you’re claiming. What reality is it representing?
Go ahead. Give me your best shot. Cite me something.
She/he/it was most likely a Poe.
So…every game that involves dice is gambling? I should remember that next time I want to play Monopoly.
It is very, very sad to witness such a degree of ignorance on display. It goes quite beyond closed-mindedness. Engaging in a socially active activity that brings forth the oportunity to freely use your imagination causes depression and negative feelings? I almost wonder what your thoughts are about writters, artists and every other activity out there that dares think outside your box. Do you have even the slightest idea what you are talking about? People with your kind of mentality brough us such great things as gratuitous censorship and witch hunts. I’ll support ftidus12′s advice here: get informed before you bash that which you do not understand.
Wacked out and depressed? Negative feelings?
Wow, you certainly ARE an authority on D&D’s effect on the human psyche. You just trying to be as vague as possible so we can’t pin you for being full of crap. That’s why you avoid explaining how these supposed ‘negative feelings’ will even arise.
Either you buy into the who ‘satanism’ thing, which is largely aesthetic and won’t harm anyone who can tell the difference between reality and fiction, or you are trolling us for a laugh.
Its not the game. Its the person. I seen people play the game and go onto live great lives without having mental break downs. I also ready of people who larp and got pregnent by someone not their husband. or someone who who hurt themselves to match the wounds their character had. Does that mean D&D is evil or bad? No. Just that the people who do things like that had issues that only came out because of a game. A book or a movie could have set it off.
Wow, I know you will never read this, but I’m surprised someone didn’t tear you a brand new asshole. The decided to be really nice for some reason.
I know your full of shit because you never described what you thought D&D actually was, or WHY it was bad. You just spouted baseless paranoia. The Internet has little tolerance for unfounded, poorly researched opinions like this one.
If you ever DO read this, please tell me ‘what D&D can do to a person’. I would be more than happy to listed to your alleged experience with this game. If it ever existed that is.
*AWESOME HEAVY METAL INTRO!!* Hello everyone!
As a furry, I can relate to the demonizing of early D&D gamers, I’ve played the game before, It’s lot’s of fun and get’s people playing together, hell my dad and I played for a while.
Uhh… what the hell does being a furry have to do with D&D?
mazes and monsters is a far-out game
Benzaie must have very useful resources to have a bunch of PS3 games in 2002.
Sure, DnD is satanic. And I’m a ten story purple horned hippo covered in icecream and red spots.
And i can relate to Iron Weasel in several ways. My ENTIRE FAMILY plays the god damn game, and we have been for god only knows how long. Seriously, my mom, my dad, all four of my uncles, and both of my brothers and sisters have all played the game. Its fun, and is kinda good socially.
my god this movie is the reefer madness to nerds
Best scene in this review has to be Spoony’s breakdown 10 minutes in…..wow…hilarious..
Sadness!!!! D&D doesn’t make you crazy!!! This movie is bogus and I salute you for beating it down. Level up.
Tarnish notte the majesty of Jay Jay’s collection of hats!
I watched this movie after this review, and I have to say there’s a lot of other stuff in there that he missed out which is just as stupid. Like how in the hell would Robbie FORGET HIS OWN NAME. There are many scenes where he only answers to Pardu. If that’s the case then he’s obviously suffering from some form of multiple personality disorder, which has nothing to do with a fucking game.
Btw you said this movie was the second worst thing to happen to the two towers, you’re wrong. It’s clearly the worst thing that happened to them.
I just watched this review right after the DungeonMaster Review.
If you will permit me. I would like to point your attention to a movie called ‘The Gamers: Dorkness Rising’. It is literally the only good DnD movie you will ever watch. If you want to see a DnD movie that’s true to the game, has a decent plot and interesting characters, not to mention being pretty damn funny at times, then I beg of you to see this movie. It’s a B-movie with a budget little over 2 bucks but please don’t let that scare you away. I promise you you wont be disappointed.
Yep seen that. Awesome movie for what it was. I budget may have been for $2 but it was still better than the original D&D film :D
This is the first time I’ve watched to the end of the credits and saw that dedication to Gary Gygax. Who is Gary Gygax? Did he die or did help edit the review? Is he one of Spoony’s friends?
He’s the guy who originally created D&D and he died about three years ago.
early in this video when spoonys showing pictures of nerdy people, gary gygax is the old guy :D
This film needs to be spread everywhere xD *is also a harmless nerd*
Also, is it just me or is that DVD artwork ripped off Labyrinth for the, well the labyrinth, and Dragonheart II for the dragons?
Maybe it’s just me but the art looks damn familiar.
What was that clip with the guys with the lightsabers in the opening from?
I think it was from his E3 escapades, when talking to the guys behind the old Republic MMO
interesting opening. i like it!
Seriously, its badass. Might wanna keep this one for later.
OMG I’VE FOUND PARDUE THE HOLY!!! SERIOUSLY!!!
it’s in the core rule book page 8 under clerics…
1:31-1:33-THANK GOD I’m not the only one!
Awesome video Spoony i love re-watching this review
Ending reminds me of shutter island.
Shame on you for saying that. Shutter Island was actually good.
This review honestly reminds me of my stepmother. Having knee-jerk reactions to things they don’t understand and don’t want to understand. Poor, sad people. :P Seriously, this is one of my favourite reviews ever. XD
The Sacralidge…beware of it…
When was Spoony jumped by Jedi?
I thought the 2nd worse thing to happen to the WTC was… um… the first bombing in 1993. This movie, though? Clearly the third. ;-P
If he was a ritual caster, he would’ve been able to summon flying horses, so he could’be still flown.
awesome intro – love it.
12:21 Jeebus, Robbie just plays it off like it’s an every day occurrence. DUUDE!! You found a gamer girl! Tell her you love her! Tell her she is everything you never knew you always wanted!
16:10 “sonar”? …. WTF? Lady, you mean without making an “Intelligence”, “Perception” or “Dexterity” roll.
”Yeah, this is what happens when someone who’s never actually seen a D&D game in his life tries to write a movie about D&D” – Noah
17:28 “Beware of the sacrilege!” Wait, was that “IN character” or…not…?
Ironically, Penicillin was discovered by accident!
Dat’s da joke.
19:20 -> Cue the James Bond music.
MAN, nerds have it good today. I was almost never picked on for being a nerdy kid at my high school. Yeah, the jocks would try to push my buttons when I was little, but by high school everyone was too mature for any of that shit to slide.
Maybe I was just REALLY fortunate. Good thing I’m in the College of Engineering at UTSA, constantly surrounded by my lanky, occasionally bearded, Mountain-Dew drinking brethren. Just gotta get through all these really stupid core classes. WHEN THE FUCK WILL I EVER USE GENERAL CHEMISTRY AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER?!
You’ll be happy to have it if you’re ever designing industrial control systems.
Actually Spoony the Larping at the ending where Robbie was still crazy could have worked to their advantage if they were intelligent enough to think it through. Basically they could have rolled a random monster encounter and made it attack Robbie and during the battle rigged it so that the monster kills His character. That might have snapped Him out of being crazy.
If my party tried that resurrection plan I’d hang back to “stand guard in case the skeletons find a way around” and then cut the rope. Then I’d climb down and steal their stuff.
I allways loved this review. And so far i think it is one of spoonies best, if not the best review he ewer made.
Never played D&D myself, the only rulebook i ever owned was for Werewolf the Apocalypse, and never found any friends to play any roleplaying game with, unless you count things on the internet. Damnit, i am jelaus of Spoony not because he is an internet celebrity, but for having people of the same interest in school.
Well, have you tried “Meetup.com”? I always use that to find RPG groups in my area.
Damn dude, I haven’t watch this video in a minute; but this rock intro you have is fucking bad ass, why don’t you use it more often?
When he says “Jak’s tattoos” does he mean from mass effect 2?
wtf 19:39 theres an insect on the screen keep watching it crawls upwards
I am a gamer (tabletop, video games etc.) who enjoys heavy music (iron maiden, wintersun, opeth etc.), but I need to offer a few observations here. The majority of gaming devices (cards, dice) come from ancient divination paraphernalia such as tarot cards and runes. Occult practitioners today (new agers, luciferians, wiccans) still use such methods to access hidden (occult) knowledge from ascended masters or spirit guides. While this movie may be a technical joke, many people today really “believe” in spells, they just call them cause-effect thinking, or positive affirmation methodology. “See it in your mind’s eye, and it will happen” is essentially the mantra of writers such as Eckhart Tolle, Norman Vincent peale, or Helen Schucman. While to some, D&D is just a game where you let off some steam and enjoy storytelling, to others it is an outlet to actuate mental alchemy, and in effect, create an ACTUAL alternate universe in one’s mind. This is where D&D CAN be a catalyst for the distortion of reality, depending on how far you take it. One of the best MTG players at my local hobbyshop (who has been to Japan for tournements) is a devout satanist, and has attributed much his success to positive affirmation. He also said that MTG is a great introductory step (flavorwise) to get interested in occultism. While there is a lot of arbitrary information being thrown around, there is definitely a correlation between the occult and gaming. As far as there being a “gateway”, that really depends on the intentions of the player.
That’s such bullshit. “It really depends on the player,” can be attributed to just about anything. Marijuana never led me to any other drugs, though I’m sure other people have tried heroin because they loved weed. Not every gamer is a Satanist or a lover of black magic, in fact, I’m pretty sure they’re the literal 1%. The fact that you’re gonna sit there and throw out ONE example of a “satanist gamer” isn’t enough evidence to say that it’s possible for Magic the fucking Gathering to introduce people to the occult. Sheesh.
“Not every gamer is a Satanist or a lover of black magic” Is kind of like saying not every human being likes eating pretzels. Magic and the occult have been a fact of life for many thousands of years, just today they’ve been remodeled more for entertainment. As for the “literal 1%”, Wicca is a WIDELY practiced religion in the American military, and has been growing rapidly in western culture for over 50 years. In fact, Winston Churchill was a practicing druid who made witchcraft a permissible religion when he became prime minister. And by the way, that “satanist gamer” I mentioned is an extremely intelligent guy who has more insight than most. The problem today is that the concepts of “satanism” or “witchcraft” have been satirized so much that they’ve become more like cultural idioms.
Man, I really wish you’d use this opening again sometime.
Ok here we go *cracks knuckles*
I actually have to agree with a poster on your commentary. This movie is not a Pro-RPG movie but its not an Anti-RPG movie either. As anyone who is talking about the game in a negative way is actually shown to be very wrong. The Detective I mean.
Also the way Robby went crazy is not so odd. Some people if they where to have a mental break would regress to a child mind or to a time they felt same. But Robby had a place better then that. He had a character who was strong and powerful so his mind went there to protect itself.
Also lvl 9 seems to be a big deal in this game so if Robby had been playing the game long enough to get to lvl 9 that means it was not the game that made him go wacko. My theory is the stress of a new place, collage, his girlfriend kinda putting the breaks on a little, his parents being shitty, and maybe even being a little to into the game all came crashing down on his head and to save itself his mind went to the only place it felt safe.. Into the game where he was powerful and strong.
Uhh…. Don’t you think you are reading FAR to into this movie? Have you ever seen the book? I have a fairly good Library in my town and not even them would EVER get this book. I’d have to order from some crazy bag lady in Sears.
a pretty standard case of schizophrenia, if you ask me. Robby was just going through a psychotic episode, being a schizophrenic myself, i can sympathize with. however, i grew up with childhood schizophrenia, and in most common cases of schizophrenia, it develops in the late teens, to early twenties. sure it could have been brought on by stress and what not, being that it was kinda sudden, However, it could have been in his family, and aside from all that, we’re not given too much info on robby before he met with the group. he could have been well fucked up, with many warning signs that we were never made aware of. so, in my educated opinion, this could be a very plausible scenario, and, for the most part, it’s played out pretty well, however, alot of it is just bad writing, and i doubt the makers of the movie thought this deep into it, so i don’t think we should either.
so wait they think that a guy who thinks he’s a holy man who is pretty much more peaceful than anybody known today and only kills criminals is a bad thing
Well…yeah. I mean, don’t get me wrong – this film is fucking awful, and the whole thing’s attitudes towards RPGs and mental problems in general is really confused.
However, I think it’s fairly reasonable to condemn a guy for outright murdering muggers and petty criminals. Hell, I’d condemn a police officer for shooting a criminal in the face, let alone an ordinary person who decides to be a vigilante. And let’s remember, this guy isn’t even that – he’s just a crazy dude who thinks people who attack him are monsters. I.e. a dangerously unstable person who has murderous psychotic episodes.
And while we’re at it, “is pretty much more peaceful than anybody known today”? I’m fairly sure that the vast majority of the global population that have never STABBED SOMEONE will beat this guy hands down on the peaceful-o-meter :P
I still think the phrase “The intense occult training through D&D prepared Debbie to accept the invitation to enter a witches’ coven” is so stupid, I literally cannot say it with a straight face. Jack Chick is a fucking FOUL excuse for a human being, but by God, some of his comics are so unintentionally funny.
And I can never again take Tom Hanks seriously. Thanks a lot.
i liked the visual for the intro, but the cover version sucks. sorry.
This is probably one of my favourite reviews by you Spoony. It’s excellently planned and executed via jokes and gags, information and commentary, and clips and references. Had me laughing and learning the whole way through! Can’t ask for much better than this ^_^
When he says “What do Jack’s tattoos mean?” is he talking about Jack from Mass Effect 2?
No, Jack from LOST.
For a bit of trivia, Kevin Peter Hall played the Gorvil. Who’s Kevin Peter Hall you may ask?
Kevin Peter Hall has been in a number of TV & movie roles, but he is best known as The Predator.
verry funny… actually im going to become a psychotherapist, and today we talked alot about psychotic teenagers… so jear this movie is soooo wrong either from a gamer or a therapist point of view… what a great coinsitent to end this day… thx for the nice review…
ps.: if ur interested in a more realistic picture of a psychotic person u should watch ‘the white sound’
Man, Benzaie’s a pro, having PS3 games in 2002
That song is awesome, I wish it was longer than 58secs.
I just downloaded the ballad of Bilbo baggins from itunes… I can’t find a ringtone of it damnit! That would be awesome to have as a ringtone since I am so damned short!! XD
Robbie was schizo!
Actually..it DID work for Shutter Island. At the end (Spoiler Alert) he led the doctors to believe he hadn’t been cured cause he didn’t want to live knowing what he done. So he chose to let them lobotomize them so he could live as a hero in his mind.
*sigh* I miss playing D&D….ever since I moved I havnt found another group to play with…pluse I lost my chacter sheet…*headdesk*
I miss playing D&D…. ever since I moved I havent found another group to play with… pluse I lost my chacter sheet…*headdesk*
Id rather watch this at 4 in the morning than masturbate.
That’s how good it is.
When you said “What do Jack’s tattoos mean?” did you mean Jack from Mass Effect 2?
I believe that is a LOST reference.
This reminds me of Reefer Madness, you blow it up as much as possible making everything what it never was or is in the first place and everything is just stupid.
Oh dear god!!! EVANGELION Refrences someone kill me!
Because he’s a “holy man” and warning her about disturbing the remains of the dead. (of course, if it’s hanging in a cave with lights coming out of it’s orifices there’s a pretty good chance nobody ever did proper last rites on this thing anyway)
was i the only one that kinda got scared when he showed the satanic harry potter
shittiest wiseau impression ever.
Thumbs up Spoony. You’re tirade in the first 5 minutes makes me feel like you actually hurt this movie back!
This still is my favorite spoony video.
whats the name of the intro?
Funny how Benzaie managed to get PS3 games IN 2002!!!
I never play D&D by candle light. though it does set a certain mood. Just because this is the 666th comment, it doesnt mean that I am Satan.
Yeah, as a Christian, I know for a fact that pretty much all the crap that was thrown on D&D was just crap. Those pamphlets were the worse offenders. But the Harry Potter thing . . . I’m may get some haters probably, but there is SOME validity to those claims, but again, not at the same level as many believe.
BUT, there’s a misconception on what witchcraft is today. It’s not satanic, but is based on a Wiccan beliefs. As for the magick, think of it like the Force (not the best simile, but you can go with it), like an energy field that surrounds us that can only be accessed at certain ‘level’ that Wiccans attempt to attain, but with no distinction of ‘Dark Side’ or ‘Light Side.’ According to the Wiccan Code, they believe that one can do whatever they want PROVIDED that they don’t cause harm to others. Not the cackling, cauldron-tolling uglies that have been parodied since the Looney Tunes, are they? So, witchcraft isn’t demonic in nature, but it’s still against Christian beliefs. Add to the fact that there are a number of Wiccan sites that actually credit Harry Potter in assisting them in getting more people to join them, and it can be understandable that some Christian parents can be MILDLY concerned about it, but no more. Still, it makes little sense for agnostic parents to give two shits about Harry Potter since, again, they’re not exactly evil.
Oh, but this review was great. Really funny . . . wait, are you saying you went to MIT?!
spoony one…..I have the same problem……
That warning isn’t a lie. I can never watch Forrest gump with a straight face again.
Love ya Spoony, that bull on twitter from jeseokuta was out of line!
So Mazes and Monsters is to D&D what Reefer Madness is to marijuana.