Vlog 8-13-10 – Expendables Review

Spoony | Aug 13 2010 | more | 
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Maybe seeing a Stallone movie with a migraine wasn’t the best idea.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XOCMUTS7EAMVYIS4JLQXMCNDUM Andrew

    Why would you see this first instead of Scott Pilgrim? You crazy, Spoony, you crazy.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t seen it yet, but as always, you helped me figure out whether or not I will see it.

    Get some rest, Spoony. Hope that migraine goes away quickly. Curse Stallone for aggravating it! ;)

  • Anonymous

    Can’t believe you didn’t like The Boondock Saints. Oh well. I suppose it’s not for everyone.
    I kinda had a feeling this movie would be bad, but all the male members of my family have been hyping it forever. I sort of had higher hopes for it, despite that bad feeling.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t take an all-star cast with a big budget to make a good movie. I hope you learn something from this.

  • http://twitter.com/Xain777 Xain777

    why did you say you would stop at the halfway point without cutting?
    anyway very indepth review esp with a migrane.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVM3HUBWDUQ6PSN57GJH2SHECA jack

    There are some major followers posting on this site (eg, “as always, you helped me figure out whether or not I will see it”). Hell, I don’t even follow the serious critic reviews of movies, much less this spoony fool. Grow up.

    • Anonymous

      Hello, Troll!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CU572JI2DW4LQHLDIZWOCLQXDI Justin

    I agree with everything you say except that the action was bad. I thought the action was great, especially the hand to hand. I could forgive the movie’s shortcomings because I liked the action so much. Yeah, it could have been better, but I enjoyed it, and I would recommend seeing it as long as your expectations aren’t too inflated.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MVM3HUBWDUQ6PSN57GJH2SHECA jack

    Spoony likes to hear himself talk too much, just like any vlogger.

  • http://twitter.com/plasmaburnthbc aaron park

    I think the point of the movie was be as action cliched as possible. That sounds like the point and that is exactly how it was advertised. I think you went in with false hopes for a completely different movie. I still respect your opinion but I have to disagree

  • http://twitter.com/MrRandyWatson1 Randy Watson

    Calm down, Spoony, it was just a fun, dumb action flick. Spend half an hour dissecting Commando’s plot with a headache and you’d hate that too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cardno C William Cardno

    I think the success of this movie is that it gets people talking about Rambo: First Blood Part Two and Commando. I had a lot of fun here and I was far more ill than you were. And though I agree the shaky cam was ABUSIVE AS HELL. This movie had well thought out action beats, comedy, a paperthin story line that is really no more than a catalyst for “lets watch these guys tear shit up” – which is the spirit of movies like Commando.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shishkerbob Alex Spiteri

    i wanted this movie to be good so bad :(((

  • Anonymous

    You weren’t playing by the rules when watching it. You were supposed to turn your brain off.
    :-)
    Oh, and this was most definitely not a verbatim copy of Brad’s review. He actually seemed to really enjoy this movie. I hope your critic side isn’t becoming too powerful… wouldn’t want it to ruin your ability to have fun watching something shitty.

  • Anonymous

    Because Scott Pilgrim is pretentious and hipster as fuck. Goddamn, this should be clear.

  • Anonymous

    I had a really good audience with me in the theatre when i saw the expendables. Pretty much everyone was there to see a bunch of guys blow shit up, and i think everyone had a great time (every violent death was met with a theater full of “OOOOOOH”

  • http://twitter.com/yanipheonu Edward Brown

    So you didn’t go to see Scott Pilgrim.

    Oh Spoony, I am disappoint.

    Seriously though, GREAT MOVIE. Curious to see what Spoony thinks of it.

  • http://twitter.com/yanipheonu Edward Brown

    So you didn’t go to see Scott Pilgrim.

    Oh Spoony, I am disappoint.

    Seriously though, GREAT MOVIE. Curious to see what Spoony thinks of it.

  • http://twitter.com/yanipheonu Edward Brown

    I guess the other 80% of people (based on the Tomatometer) disagree. Besides, you should really enjoy movies for what they are, you could be missing out on something great.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XQTK4AE6VRGZK2DKQCWTGZYQVQ johnny

    Boondock saints was fucking awful (not disappointing, it was awful) and caused me to seriously reevaluate the tastes of many of my friends.

  • Anonymous

    I do enjoy hundreds movies for what they are. Scott Pilgrim is hipster as fuck, though. When I watch it, I’ll decide if it’s horrible or good. I’m leaning towards bad for a myriad of reasons, but we’ll see.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JIQX5YVITKIPIXFXYIDXQ2QNOI Dan

    Trashed Boondock Saints and The Expendables in the same video. Prepare for more hate mail than Kristen Stewart received when Twilight fans thought she was cheating on Pattinson.

  • http://twitter.com/SpaceDog7 Daniel

    Don’t worry spoony Brad reveiwed the Cirio H. Santiago 1988 version of The Expendables.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maxwell.lachance Maxwell LaChance

    On the names thing, they explain that everyones names in the movies are code names.
    Otherwise you’re right. It’s Rambo but without any of the heart.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordy-Glazer/1698351498 Jordy Glazer

    Yes! I was afraid you might not go see Scott Pilgrim man since it’s waring the lable of a hipster movie by alot of people. Scott Pilgrim was ALOT better then this movie, and while it is a hipster movie it’s also a great perody of a hipster movie.

    As for the Expendables, my expectations imploded during this movie because I was really looking forward to like either a Dirty Dozen movie or maybe even a Magnificent 7, but it wasn’t it was just another action movie this year like The Losers or The A-team and I actaully liked the A – team alot more because at least that movie got so stupid to the point of just being awesome and memorable, really this kinda forgettable and that’s the saddest thing to me is that it shouldn’t be this forgettable.

    Also on the connection to Rambo, I like your annalogy of that too cause that’s what I thought in the theater was like “why does this feel so much like the last rambo movie yet why is it so much worse” and I think the reason it isn’t as good as the last Rambo movie is because these villains suck. I mean the villains in Rambo were AWEFUL just scum of the earth woman and children murdering dickheads and you just Rambo to go in there and fuck thier shit up and grind them into tiny bits of meat and in this thier just forgettable and just not interesting, their bad guys sure but they don’t have that scum factor that Rambo did that just makes you want to see all these guys just destroy them. and I think if the villains had been better this really wouldn’t have been nearly as forgettable and you really would have been much more invested in this movie and gone along with it alot more.

    But anyway hope that Migrain went away, I hope you do a video review for scott pilgrim cause I am really curious to see what you have to say about it cause I really loved it. And P.S. BOONDOCKS SAINTS 1 & 2 SUCK

  • http://thenewyawker.darkbb.com/ Tylarannosaurus Rex

    Go watch Inception again, dammit!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jordy-Glazer/1698351498 Jordy Glazer

    Try thinking of it as a parody of all those hipster movies and I think it’s better then you might think

  • http://twitter.com/carsonnik Mr. Smith

    I was hoping he’d mention Arnie’s role in this at least a little bit

  • Anonymous

    Really? Really?!?!

    You’re going with the “pretentious hipster” angle?

    Ugh… let me guess, you didn’t read the comics or see the movie, did you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/EternalSonata2010 Anthony Valunas

    I saw it with my best friend last night, and I walked out amazed with it. While your points are valid, Spoony, I walked into it expecting a cheesy, action-hero-over-the-top-explosions movie, since I grew up with those types of movies. I loved the light-heartedness of it and all the references to other movies hidden in it as well. The characters were over the top, the plot was predictable, and the special effects were everywhere, but that was the point of it all, in my opinion. I totally agree on Dolph Lundgren being one of the best characters in the movie, but Jason Statham’s knife-play and Jet-Li throwing down were both amazing too.

    The running time wasn’t even an issue. I was so into the entire movie that 2 hours in the theatre felt like an hour. The only way this movie would’ve been ever better was if Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal were in it, and they almost were.

    I hope this turns into a trilogy, because I’ll be there on opening night both times. To each their own, friend.

  • Anonymous

    Also, it is my personal theory that this movie would’ve been at least 1000 times better had the characters all been pirates on a pirate ship just being rowdy raunchy pirates.

  • http://twitter.com/totem91 peter pountidis

    That was your Predators review?
    2 lines in an expendables rant?
    Spoony, Spoony, Spoony…
    You really should pick your rants better. This one didn’t justify a rant, and I would have listened to you rant over Predators for hours…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_27GF7DTCPFOVJZYECB64HAEO7I DenysT

    This movie sounds like it has the same plot as the Christopher Walken action movie “McBain”.

  • Anonymous

    I find it kind of humorous that Brad seemed to enjoy this movie a lot more than you, Spoony, especially after you announced that you thought he would see it in the same light. I’ve not seen it yet myself, but perhaps you were too harsh? I

    f you have migraines, you need to get you some Maxalt, because I use it for mine and it works like a dream. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s pretty obvious it’s a hipster movie, or at least a movie that is so hipster is somehow stops being hipster and becomes a parody of itself. Still, I’ll reserve judgment on quality. I didn’t say the movie was shit, since I haven’t watched it yet.

  • http://twitter.com/TrevorBiggs Trevor Biggs

    I think what you’re getting at is the same problem that you had when filming the Epic Brawl: you can only fit so much of each actor into the allotted time. It would take FOREVER if each action star did their own thing, so they are somewhat required to tone back their distinctive characteristics in order to make the movie as a whole work. I’m surprised that all of them were even capable of sharing the screen time, given many of their reputations for being THE star of their movies. If Rambo had had all these actors in it, it would have been a poorer movie, because there would be no opportunity to really focus and dial in on a single character. This isn’t a throw back to action exploitation films, this IS an action exploitation films. They’re selling tickets with the cast’s names alone, no one knows what the hell this movie is about from the trailers alone. But you know what? I’m okay with that. It was just cool to see them all in one place for one more hurrah.

  • http://twitter.com/Koda89 Koda Kazar

    This movie was AWESOME!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Terrorblades Erik Olsson

    Whooo! FF10 and Ultima! Oh and spoony please do deadly Preminion!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Nadeau/100000234279157 Benjamin Nadeau

    It’s more of a parody of hipsters if anything. If you like comics/manga, video games or kung fu movies you’ll like Scott Pilgrim. The books are better though.

  • Anonymous

    Now, who believes Spoony’s migraines are him developing psychic powers?

  • http://twitter.com/OlivawTweet Olivaw

    Man fuck you Spoony I’m going to go see The Expendables AND I’M GOING TO LIKE IT.

    Also Robert Rodriguez didn’t do Predators. He just produced it. The director was some foreign dude whose name is hard to spell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/henryjones Joe Straatmann

    I thought of it as an all-star game. You get these really good people and yeah, it’s not their best ballgame (Except for the one or two veterans who want to show them a good time. Mickey Rourke is capital A ACTING when he gets his small opening), and it’s better in concept than in execution, but they have a good time and the audience has a reasonably good time. Yeah, I get what Spoony’s saying, but I accepted it as the dumb 80′s action movie even if they needed a “I don’t need the gun, John, I DON’T NEED THE GUN!!!!!” villain. They try to make one of the characters a former personal friend turned villain, but it’s never convincing. I get wanting more. I really do. There’s a difference between concept and execution and the execution is far from the greatest (Save when Jet Li gets in a fight with one of the other famous guys. It’s the stuff nerdy dreams are made of). But I enjoyed it.

    Now Scott Pilgrim is absolutely brilliant. Remember Revenge of the Nerds when they had that big music number to win the competition that was so dorky, so bizarre, yet was handled with so much confidence and energy that it’s awesome on every level? That’s all of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, and it’s glorious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/henryjones Joe Straatmann

    I thought of it as an all-star game. You get these really good people and yeah, it’s not their best ballgame (Except for the one or two veterans who want to show them a good time. Mickey Rourke is capital A ACTING when he gets his small opening), and it’s better in concept than in execution, but they have a good time and the audience has a reasonably good time. Yeah, I get what Spoony’s saying, but I accepted it as the dumb 80′s action movie even if they needed a “I don’t need the gun, John, I DON’T NEED THE GUN!!!!!” villain. They try to make one of the characters a former personal friend turned villain, but it’s never convincing. I get wanting more. I really do. There’s a difference between concept and execution and the execution is far from the greatest (Save when Jet Li gets in a fight with one of the other famous guys. It’s the stuff nerdy dreams are made of). But I enjoyed it.

    Now Scott Pilgrim is absolutely brilliant. Remember Revenge of the Nerds when they had that big music number to win the competition that was so dorky, so bizarre, yet was handled with so much confidence and energy that it’s awesome on every level? That’s all of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, and it’s glorious.

  • http://twitter.com/MHarrison90 Mark Harrison

    Well said, Spoony. I was down on this one without the impediment of a migraine, tbh.
    The tone is all over the place and what the fuck was with the CGI? That shot of Eric Roberts near the end (you know the one I mean) looked retarded.
    Definitely agree on the screenplay score- this should really be the action equivalent of The Avengers, where all of these guys face a threat that no one of them on their own could have stopped back in their heyday. Instead, the plot could as easily have been Rambo 5.
    Plus, it just blows its load after the Bruce-Arnie-Sly scene. And what the fuck was with Dolph Lundgren’s character arc?!
    Gotta say, some of the hardcore action was really impressive, but as you say, the overall impression was underwhelming. 3/5

  • http://twitter.com/Dibol1987 Laurence Kone

    I saw the movie without a migraine, and I agree with Spoony on the shaky-cam. It did not really help that much.

  • Laharl

    It’s Official Michael Cera is now manlier than all of The Expendables. I don’t know if that’s really good for Cera, or really sad for The Expendables…

    Oh well, Keep up the good work Cera!

  • http://twitter.com/Professoriii Iherdu LiekMudkipz

    So, essentially the problem with the expendables was that the cast was inexpendable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Socarras/514984019 Mike Socarras

    WOW it’s funny you mentioned Cinema Snob’s review at the beginning, because I literally watched that review right before this one right after getting home from seeing this movie with some of my friends, and you and Brad could not have agreed less. I can almost go point for point between the two reviews and show how you two have opposite opinions. I have to really agree with Brad and a lot of people who commented here; me and my friends had an incredibly fun time simultaneously laughing our asses off at how cheesy it was and shouting “FUCK YEAH” over and over during every action scene. I can definitely see the comparison with Rambo 4, since I also thought that even the action scenes and their take on “ultra-violence” were similar. Here’s the thing – I don’t disagree with the flaws you pointed out, but you overestimate Brad and your similarity in film taste. Brad expected this film to be absolutely retarded explosions and blood with some absolute badasses, and he can leave his brain at the door. You both may enjoy exploitation films on the same level, but he does so out of genuine love for camp and violence, and you seem to also love that stuff, but with some level of brain function still going on, which is also why you always go point for point examining movies as thoroughly as you do, although the movies don’t warrant it.

    Now as far as the movie itself goes, I definitely saw some flaws. It was certainly tonally inconsistent and had “subplot-itis,” where Sly thought having a subplot = having character depth. The whole thing about Statham’s girlfriend had no point, Jet Li’s asides about needing money went nowhere, Randy Couture and his gross-ass ear where useless, and I could care less about the general and his daughter. It also tried to sometimes be serious, like the *SPOILER* waterboarding scene *SPOILER OVER*, and Eric Roberts’ character was the most over-the-top villain I’ve ever seen. However, everything was forgiven to me by how incredibly awesome these guys were playing off each other, like even the entirely pointless scene with Arnold, Sly, and Bruce Willis was amazing because of their banter, and I really have to disagree with you about the action scenes and how they were shot. I do agree in that I hate shaky-cam action scenes, but I think a much worse culprit was Quantum of Solace, because of the ridiculous editing, which made everything a blur. Here I could tell what was happening almost always because although the editing was quick, it wasn’t frenetic to the point where I couldn’t see anything except for a few times like during the car chase. Plus the action and gore to me was just so FUCKING AWESOME, particularly the opening scene and the fight in the bunker at the end, that with a great, vocal audience and some guy buddies, this was incredibly fun to watch, if not particularly memorable except for those two points.

    I also just want to make one final point about your critique. You kept on talking about “what the film was trying to be” in comparison to other films. My problem right there is that you’re already making assumptions about peg-holing the movie into another movie’s precedence instead of enjoying the ride. I do always hate when people tell me that they liked Transformers 2 because “it’s just a popcorn flick” – but I would 100% say that about The Expendables. Why? Because it doesn’t insult me as an audience member. Transformers and that sort of movie are annoying because they go out of their way to cram in stupid jokes and gags while detracting from the action, where this movie (most of the time) at least spends its time blowing shit up and being awesome instead of being dumb. Yeah it’s flawed, but comparing it to Rambo: First Blood Part 2 or Predator isn’t fair because it’s not those movies, it’s The Expendables, a really fucking dumb movie with some hilarious banter and incredible action between awesome guys as a tribute to their fans. Sure it could have been a “serious action movie” a la Dirty Dozen, or Where Eagles Dare, as Brad said, but that precludes the enjoyment of the movie just for its own sake as the ultimate testosterone thrill ride with your friends, which it was for me.

  • http://twitter.com/zerosozha Seth Meszaros

    I severely hated The Expendables for the same reason Spoony said: it could have been so much more. With such a great cast, I was expecting a balls-to-the-wall insane action movie. What we got instead was a generic Rambo clone.

    The A-Team was worlds beyond The Expendables.

  • Anonymous

    Question. Does anyone even know what the fuck “hipster” means anymore? Because I’m hearing it thrown around like “emo” was a few years ago; no real definition, used to describe anything that the user happens to dislike.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1827706055 Anonymous

    Too bad The Expendables was a flop for you. Though I’m glad that you took the time to post a Vlog. Saves me from spending around $10-20. I has mixed feelings about seeing this one. Part of me wanted to see this, but the other half saw that they over loaded it with stars. Kind of in the same vein as Valentines Day (the romantic comedy). Movies like that always seem to be more concerned with “look who is in the movie” than telling an interesting story. I’ll see it eventually. Wait for it on DVD, so until then I will say no more.

    Really Look forward to seeing Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. Though at times it feels like I’m the only one that like Michael Cera’s acting.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    Yeah, gonna disagree on this one, severely. I will however blame it heavily on the migraine because I do usually respect your remarks on movies.

    First up, I picked up on what the movie was going for: mercenaries wanting to get out of the life with their souls intact. We get Rourke’s character talking about failing to save a woman when it was well within his power to do so, Stallone wanting to avoid that same experience, Lungren turning to drugs, Statham trying to settle down with a woman, and Li even trying to get some extra cash for a family he hopes to have someday. Barney thus ends up going on a suicide mission because otherwise he isn’t certain he could live with himself, and his men stick with him because they might not be able to live with themselves if they couldn’t save him. The woman’s motivations don’t matter, nor does the country, its just the principle of abandoning someone they could save. Since you mentioned Boondock Saints I’ll point to the movie’s opening sermon where the priest commented on people standing by and doing nothing.

    The movie’s tone does shift quite a bit, but it sort of needs to as its facing the task of playing up the awesomeness that is so many action stars in one place while trying to tell a decent story. The plot is passable, and I will give it a lot of praise for not falling into the usual two traps of having a guy fall in love with the rebel girl or fall in love with the people of the island who are enslaved. The villains are stock, yes, but they were not the focus so that’s also fair. The anti-government movement, the villains, they never really were important to the film, they just existed for background more than anything else. This was about the heroes from the get-go. The woman was a pretty bad actress though.

    Now, no question the camera work was terrible at some points. It’s essentially the Bad Bourne effect, where people try to replicate the flowing shaky cam of the Bourne movies but do it terribly be making it very artificial, say shaking the camera intentially. Directors sometimes do this to give you a perspective shot, but it really is counter to how films are and typically should be shot. We can forgive the Bourne Trilogy because it was really the best way to get shots like the roof jumps. Unfortunately for this film many times when we experience the Bad Bourne effect there was no point, and indeed some of the best shots in the movie, like when Li and Statham take out one guy together, its excellent.

    As for what you expected the movie to be, you seriously need to stop that. We got some great action sequences, some interesting character bits that apparently you missed, and you wanted a Dirty Dozen remake? That’s way too high an expection, and massively unrealistic. When going into movies, you should have two expectations: that you’ll enjoy it, and that it’ll be a film of a certain genre. This film was marketed as an action movie and an homage to action flicks of the past. It was not marketed as being some brilliant film that would be worthy of potential major awards. I’m wondering how the heck you even got the impression.

    I will agree with the name comment. The naming idea really didn’t work, but it didn’t help that Crews and Couture sadly didn’t get much screentime in favor of the main three. I would like to point something out that bugged me the entire movie: Stallone’s the quick-draw guy, Li’s the martial artist, Statham’s the knife guy, Crews has the big gun, but what the heck are Couture and Lundgren specialists in?

    So yeah, Strike Commando’s a better movie? Screw you. Seriously. I mean, that seriously pissed me off. I can forgive people not liking Boondock Saints even though I like it. I totally understand the hate. I can understand the hate for this movie based on the camera work, though I still can think of movies that were worse, including just off the top of my head Quantum of Solace. But going into this movie with massive expectations and not being able to pick up on the movie’s theme? That annoyed me, especially since you normally are good at this sort of thing. You did pick up on the Rambo similarities after all. I blame the migraine. Take some pills and come back when you’re feeling better.

    Oh yeah, and I did hate War and I can see why you’d make the comparaison, though that was a bad idea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Klunder/548008688 Jacob Klünder

    Dear Spoony, you are suffering from a work-related injury; as a reviewer, you think too much about movies and you really shouldn’t think too much about this one. Just watch it and smile happily at the guns and explosions and cart chases and two hot women and fight scenes…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I didn’t catch The Expendables but I say if you love video games, definitely watch Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.

  • Anonymous

    I sorta got the feeling that Stallone was really confused about the concept of characterization. Don’t get me wrong, the movie was okay, I mean I loved the action sequences (they were well executed and pretty original (if you could follow the shaky cam)), but the plot and characters were kinda… lost. There was a plot point about the CIA which kinda went nowhere… There were a few confusing inconsistencies in the characters which kinda went somewhere but it wasn’t terra firma. (And that guy who was supposed to be using drugs? What the fuck was he supposed to be using, PCP? Cause NO heroin junkie looks that buff).

    All you can really say is Stallone knows how to film great action sequences, but filming a movie maybe wasn’t the best idea. As soon as I saw that he was involved in the WRITING I kinda lowered my standards and said to myself “you know this film isn’t going to be great, but it’s probably going to be okay so just enjoy it for what it is, an action flick.” I mean, when there’s enough uncertainty in the tone within the first ten minutes that it makes you go “er, what?” you know this isn’t going to be anything better than above average at its very best.

    To be truthful, it kinda felt like a sequel to a really GREAT action movie where all the characters were already established, and this was a product of sequelitis with the producers just jumping on the franchise… except that there was no first movie. Uh, yeah. But again, I didn’t mind it too much. And I’m usually pretty harsh on movies like that. Eh, maybe I’m just in a forgiving mood. Maybe seeing all the cool violence made me feel good. Or maybe it’s all the prescription painkillers I’m on.

    … Come to think of it, it might be the painkillers…

    … *shifty eyes*…

    P.S: But I’d still take 24 hours of continuously watching this movie over 1 hour of something based on a John Marsden or Stephanie Meyer book ANY day of the week.

    //End ridiculously long post

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000708281837 Jordan Reuter

    I might be able to offer a definition of “hipster” as it applies today. They’re basically counter-culture douches for the sake of it, ranting and raving against the mainstream purely for its own sake; inversely they’ll loooove anything indie far beyond any merit the indie things might have. A particularly sinister aspect is how there’s really no such thing as a parody of hipsterism; that would imply some kind of humility, which is far and away from a hipster’s elitism and love of others “not getting it”. Hipsters love irony, so the more “parody” thrown their way the more hipster it gets, resulting in a never-ending cycle of hipster douchebaggery that can only satisfyingly end in gunfire.

    It doesn’t help that Cera is more or less a beacon of hipsterity. Casting him as anything approaching badass, in light of his other roles, feels really, really, REALLY unearned. Just him being the main character kind of ruins the appeal of the movie for me. But then again, I don’t terribly mind Zach Braff and there’s definitely some bile his way, so I guess there’s no accounting for taste. Hollywood, please start casting likable teenagers. I know it’s an oxymoron, but still. Make the effort.

  • Anonymous

    I may sound like a fanboy but
    Are you scrapping the Deadliest Characters idea?

  • Anonymous

    Spoony, you should make sure to either squeeze in a frame, or be making a silly face at the middle of the video so that’s what appears on the flash viewer when someone is ready to click. It really puts people in the best mood for the review; I know from other videos where that’s been the case and my fiancee’s said “Oh God, poor Spoony.” Much laughter follows. Then we watch the review and even more laughter follows.

  • Anonymous

    Really not hard to understand what “hipster” implies. Someone else just explained it nicely.

  • http://twitter.com/FleacyTheSheep Desiree X

    I hope your not done with Deadly Premonition. It’s your best LP so far in my opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Please tell me I’m not watching TNA Impact so I can follow these reviews only for you to not watch this horrible show and skip a review on this weeks episode.

  • http://twitter.com/mhooie Martin Hooie

    Go see Scott Pilgrim, it’ll make up for Expendables

  • Anonymous

    I saw this movie.. and my theory is Stallone was watching Commando and he thought “I can do better than this.” However, he decided to throw a plot in there beyond “mercenaries blow up a south american country.” I hate to use this saying but it’s almost like Stallone planned to make a popcorn movie, but he decided to get artsy at parts. The plot and the characterization does kinda detract from it, but if ya just zone out, have some laughs, and enjoy the explosions, you’ll have a good time.

    On a more analytical note, I really hated what they did to Jet Li. They made him a whiny little bitch and really lousy comic relief. I think Dolf’s part was written for Gary Buesy. The CG is kinda dodgey and they should have used practical effects for blood and impalements.

  • Anonymous

    I disagree. Cinema Snob has a better idea on the movie than Spoony this time around, in my humble opinion. This is also cliche, but I daresay you guys don’t get it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pedro-Borba/100000991993726 Pedro Borba

    Yeah, gonna have to disagree with this one. Someone’s starting to sound too much like a professional reviewer. Starting to suffer from Critic-itis. It was a great old school action movie. That was all it was supposed to be.
    As far as movies go, at least the Cinema Snob still seems to be able to enjoy watching them.

  • Anonymous

    I disagree. A-Team was more a shadow of Eighties retrauxes than the Expendables was.

  • Anonymous

    I daresay Spoony’s acting a bit cantankerous. And you’re right, Cinema Snob was practically gushing about the Expendables, so Spoony dropped the ball on him saying that Cinema Snob “agrees” with him.

  • Anonymous

    “Also Robert Rodriguez didn’t do Predators. He just produced it. The director was some foreign dude whose name is hard to spell.” Yeah, lately, Spoony hasn’t been doing his research all that well. Or maybe it was the headache? Meh.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, I get it. I know what it is and I appreciate that it is just trying to be a good old actionsploitation movie. I overall enjoyed it. But it has it’s flaws. In my other post I was nitpicking but those nitpicks didn’t detract from the experience (much). The only thing I really was annoyed by was what they did to Jet Li’s character. But I still really enjoyed this movie. This is the kind of stuff you don’t get to see happen in movies anymore and it was desperately needed. Trust me, I share CS’s view of this movie more than Spoony’s

  • http://www.youtube.com/kidmagnum Andy Torres

    Wow Dawson…wow. Ummm…Noah’s still cool in my book, lol!!! But…Yeah dude, Strike Commando’s garbage and Expendables is epic. I mean everyone is entitled to opinions and Spoony is, was, and will always be the best at comedy based reviews. I still respect him but…oof, yeah, can’t back you up ths time Spoony, sorry. But I do agree “Boondock Saints” is horrendously bad.

    Oh and Peter, lol, lay off the coffee man, I think you just ripped Spoony one to many new assholes.

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    Of course the Expendables could have been so much more, but thats was not what Stallone was going for.
    This movie did exactly what it wanted to be. An old school retarded kick ass movie. Thats what Stallone wanted.
    Anyway your opinion is different from mine, I respect yours. I just know that I enjoyed the film very much.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Eh, I thought the movie was decent. Not really good, but I would still recommend it to fans of cheesy action flicks.

    Scott Pilgrim was unbearable to me though. Though that’s probably because of the whole “hipster” vibe

  • Anonymous

    Haven’t seen it yet, so I won’t say much. But Spoony: Stallone ALREADY made Rambo. This is basically internet nerd bait akin to Snakes On A Plane. Were you really expecting a serious action-drama? Christ.

  • http://www.droppingpenny.de DP_Albert

    Ok, so you expected from a movie that is supposed to be throuwback to silly 80s action films, being a drama? What’s wrong with you?

  • http://twitter.com/FajitaBuster Jacob Kerkering

    This was the best movie I’ve seen in a while. I don’t think I stopped laughing once through the whole thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Pudge Alex Santa Maria

    You talk about how this movie could do things better and how the dialouge could be better, and I don’t think you get it. This movie only wanted to be a revival of the big dumb 80s action movie, nothing more. I came out of the theater very satisfied.

    Also, I love your idea for all the actors using their real names, I’d suggest Stallone do that for the sequel. The characters were named stupid names because except for franchises like Rambo or Rocky, you don’t know the names of the characters. A movie like Commando, Running Man, Over the Top, Cliff Hanger, you just say “Stallone did this” It makes sense for the film.

  • http://www.droppingpenny.de DP_Albert

    In Commando, Arnold has the best name ever: John Matrix! XD

  • http://www.gamespot.com/users/cornbredx CornBRED-X

    Im sorry, Spoony. While I respect your opinoin I think you over thought this movie way to much. While I respect your opinoin always, I dont think you saw this movie in the proper light. You put a heavy emphasis on character and such and I just dont see that as being why I love dumb 80s action movies. Ya alot of them had pretty decent stories but more so then that they had well put together action sequences and villians you despised. That was enough for me, and thats why I love them.

    I havent this one yet, but even though you dont recommend it I still want and intend to go see it. If it does what I think its going to do (throwback/revival of 80s action flicks) then I dont think I will be as disappointed as you were. Its only my opinoin, as I havent seen it yet, but I cant pass up a movie with all my favorite action stars together. That’d be ludicrous haha

  • Anonymous

    do you think Jason Statham did a better job in this movie than in In The Name of the King? lol

  • http://www.vgboxart.com/author/alldreamsfalldown/ Anonymous

    I got so used to your air conditioner that when it turned off I honestly thought one of the fans in my compuer had died :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Du-Pize-Lionel/657586529 Du Pize Lionel

    Wow, I can clearly see that you’re having an extremely hard time trying to appreciate the movie.

    Haven’t seen it yet, but now that when you mention about the shaky camera thing, it just disappoints me somehow, cuz as far as I’m concerned, I don’t remember the old-school action flicks having terrible shots. Even in really stupid movies like Chuck Norris’ Invasion USA, I really enjoyed the hell out of it cuz I can clearly see the balls out awesomeness on screen, and the camera shots were sure as hell not shaky.

    For a movie like this, I personally couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the plot and acting, but if the well-played action scenes weren’t shot too well, then to me, it sounds a lil bit disappointing.

  • Anonymous

    I do disagree with you, but then look at what you liked. Those portions were interesting, and that was what was pursued during the non-action parts. I actually saw most of the action, except the car chase. I remember most of the people in the audience in my theater would cringe during that last part, when that one soldier got his hands cut off. I really only thought the car chase was poorly shot. that was MUCH too shaky. I kind of get what you’re saying, but try seeing the movie again, expecting more of a “manly” action movie than a deep, good, Rambo-esque movie. And without a migrane. You probably will have the same idea of the movie, but maybe you can get the feeling that it’s more meant to be a good “80′s” popcorn flick.

  • Anonymous

    I do disagree with you, but then look at what you liked. Those portions were interesting, and that was what was pursued during the non-action parts. I actually saw most of the action, except the car chase. I remember most of the people in the audience in my theater would cringe during that last part, when that one soldier got his hands cut off. I really only thought the car chase was poorly shot. that was MUCH too shaky. I kind of get what you’re saying, but try seeing the movie again, expecting more of a “manly” action movie than a deep, good, Rambo-esque movie. And without a migrane. You probably will have the same idea of the movie, but maybe you can get the feeling that it’s more meant to be a good “80′s” popcorn flick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Paige/524847594 Brian Paige

    I’m going to see this today. I actually didn’t like the last Rambo all that much, or at least I didn’t like the ultra vicious bloodbath violence in it that really wasn’t in the initial 80s movies (or at least was cooler there, like Rambo using the exploding arrow on the Vietnamese officer that killed the girl). In Rambo: FBII he actually did care about the guys he was rescuing to some extent since they were fellow Nam vets.

    Disappointed to hear about the shaky cam crap though. If I want motion sickness I’ll watch a Bourne sequel.

  • NeedlerFanPudge

    Yea but it’s not like John Matrix is any different then say John Kimble

  • http://www.droppingpenny.de DP_Albert

    Yes, but “Matrix” has a certain sound to it, I can’t explain, that makes it kind of badass.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XOCMUTS7EAMVYIS4JLQXMCNDUM Andrew

    Explain how it’s a hipster movie.

  • NeedlerFanPudge

    Yea, I’m with you there. Certainly better then Yin Yang or Toll Road

  • http://twitter.com/MoonDinosaur Benny

    I saw this movie and I hadn’t really slept in a while, also hadn’t eaten anything for…. about 5 hours. so was somewhat hungry and sorta tired when I saw this movie. cause of that, my memory is a tad fuzzy, but I do remember liking this movie. Not loving it, but, thought it was a nice flick to watch.

    Enjoyed the action bits…

  • http://twitter.com/thefreakmoonman moon

    Go see Scott Pilgrim!

  • Anonymous

    Sounds about right; Spoony wasn’t going into this expecting high art or whatever, but expecting a good screenplay, dialogue, direction, and acting is not an absurd requirement. Maybe it’s because I don’t have as fond of memories of 80s action, but looking at this doesn’t appeal to me. I’ve had fun with 80s films like Robocop, Commando, Die Hard, The Running Man, Lethal Weapon, etc, etc, those are far better films than a LOT of schlock that Stallone made. As for Brad, he was gushing about the movie, but unfortunately he was obviously just going “ZOMG, Lundgren and li!!!!111″ Okay, so? I don’t care about Lundgren’s name and if I want absurd “HOLY CRAP!” action scenes I’ll just watch Inception again.

    Moviebob over on the Escapist put this the best in his comments for the Scott Pilgrim review: “8/13/2010, the day when the MICHAEL CERA MOVIE had better hand-to-hand battles than the movie with Jet Li and Jason Statham.” Ouch. Anyway, go see Scott Pilgrim Spoony

  • Jacen

    I was fully expecting the “team” to be just like the A Team or like The Losers. Just with a bunch of action movie actors.

    I mean, plot wise and dialogue, I really think it wasn’t as good as The Losers or even the remake A-Team. Really, this movie is just showing all these characters their prime. Jet Li didn’t get enough screen time no any of the others. Sly and Statham got the most screen time and it was all about those 2 than the rest.

    And damn, you’re right, this movie is Rambo but with “This time, Rambo is not alone.” or “This time, he’s bringing friends.” – spoken in the Snob’s voice.

    The church scene with the cameos was good. Short and simple.

  • Jacen

    As an action movie, it was a good movie, just that it could have been better. Sly could have used this all star cast better.

    And I just think that’s the whole point of the movie, so that the main characters run in and shoot up hundreds of guys and blow up everything.

  • http://twitter.com/King_Laffo Bovice

    The Mickey Rourke scene was integral in inspiring Stallone’s character to go back for the girl at all, wouldn’t say it was pointless. I could add rebuttal to a lot of the remarks in the review but I don’t wanna stir shit up. It’s fine that you didn’t like it. I would assume maybe your headache gave you some bias against it. I get migraines too and if I’d had one during this, or any movie, I’d probably be in too bad a mood to give a damn. I’d agree more with the Cinema Snob’s review in the long haul.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Delmonico-Willaims/629671199 Delmonico Willaims

    I was hoping to see this movie but since you said it’s not that good, I think I will spend my $10 for something else.

  • Anonymous

    Rambo. The 2009 version was awful. It was a disgusting, vile movie. Not the blood but the fact that the movie push upon you the hate that you should be feeling for for the enemy. I grinds it into you. The movie made me sick.

  • Anonymous

    Why should anyone like something just because a bunch of other people like it? As a fan of The Spoony Experiment you should be familiar with that idea by now.

  • Anonymous

    Spoony, i dont want to be a douche, but seriously……do you ever wash your hair?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UOYXJGBKNKJKAHTW6OJKFQB7YI WilliamT

    Shhhh… nobody tell Spoony that Brad’s review of The Expendables isn’t the same Expendables…

  • http://www.facebook.com/SlickyMike88 Michael Kragseth

    That movie portayed violence perfect ^^

  • Anonymous

    A hipster is basically a person who not just pretends to like things in order to look cool, but uses ridiculous double standards to define a sense of artistic taste which isn’t really their own.

    Pretty much the way it works is that they’ll love something if it is obscure, that way they seem like they’re in the know of some particular scene or that they have connections or whatever. If it is popular, they’ll only pretend to like it “ironically”, meaning they like it in a satirical “I only bought this shirt as a joke” kind of way. Remember, it has nothing to do about WHAT they wear, listen to, or like, but rather WHY they like it.

    You AREN’T a hipster, if you genuinely like something regardless of how popular or obscure they are.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t seen this yet but I fear Spoony is right. I told my friends I thought it was gonna be shit, now I have no friends. If, when i watch it, it’s really bad i will no doubt be very smug and then probably die alone. Small price to pay for being right though.

  • Anonymous

    How is it a “hipster” movie? It already relinquished any and all hipster rights the moment it decided to be made into a movie. The it lost them again when they cast Michael Cera due to his popularity. THEN they lost it again when they cast Chris Evans and Brandon Routh. Then they absolutely destroyed any chance they had when they decided to mass market this movie for a mainstream release.

    Seriously, it cannot be “hipster” on the grounds that it is way too popular.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously?!Just because Spoony said its bad you are not going to see it?Anyway I think that just the chance of seeing all these guys together in one film is good enough reason to go watch it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MaSQuEdePuSTA Meurant Arthur

    Actually, Robert Rodriguez didn’t direct Predators; Nimród Antal did.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Jordan. But I’m wondering. The comic and movie itself are rather mainstream themselves. Would that make anyone who hates on them with no real reason given come off as “hipster” themselves? It all seems contradictory to me.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a good definition, thanks. But how does that apply to the movie, exactly? O_o

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYW2APTOTVC2QLGMNN3UWESXR4 Isaiah

    Brad did a review on this too, cool I’ll go check that out now! [comes back from brad review] thanks a lot guys, now i am not sure if i should spend money on this movie! [walks off] think alike my ass…

  • Anonymous

    Spoony..you’re as difficult to please as I am, if not moreso. I have absolutely no interest in The Expendables. I’m one of those people who really doesn’t appreciate attempts to be overly badass, especially in action movies (And yes, I know most action movies are made purely with the term “badass” in mind, which explains why I don’t like many action movies in general). Putting so many famous action movie stars in one film screams to me “Hey, we’re desperate for attention! Look at all these awesome dudes! WATCH THIS!”. I’d rather see some talent I haven’t seen before, not watch a mash-up of stuff I HAVE seen before countless times. Sure, people can watch it and like it, but to me it’s just a waste of time and a huge waste of money. Glad to see you’re not someone who easily buys into stuff like this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/admtm24 Adam Timothy Martin

    I liked the movie but the fast editing and camera work was too kinetic.
    Best action movie along with Kick-Ass this year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/admtm24 Adam Timothy Martin

    I liked the movie but the fast editing and camera work was too kinetic.
    Best action movie along with Kick-Ass this year.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LLIYK2XZTRVZHWAGU5KAXUAXAA Dwight Henry

    You got to lay off the soda and junk food. It’s catching up with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LLIYK2XZTRVZHWAGU5KAXUAXAA Dwight Henry

    You got to lay off the soda and junk food. It’s catching up with you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    Yea, I say if people are on the fence, watch it in the morning when the ticket prices are 6 dollars.

  • Anonymous

    Rambo came out in 2008.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Antwiler, you went to a (deliberately) schlock movie expecting deep characters and good dialogue. Plus I think you’re confusing Brad with his Snob character. He might know cheesy and obscure movies but that’s because he enjoys them. I think you honestly just enjoy those sorts of movies ironically.

  • http://www.facebook.com/themonsean Sean Keller

    I didn’t have any expectations for this movie, so I went to see Scott Pilgrim instead. I made the right choice cuz SP was awesome. Never thought I’d see ‘that one guy from Juno and Super Bad’ kick ass but I did.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t even plan to see it. I’ve been disappointed by movies a LOT lately, ever since seeing Avatar and realizing the story was shit, it was just glorified CGI. War movies are unnecessarily repetitive: There’s people over there, let’s go kill them. Sure, I love explosions n’ shit just as much as the next guy, but not having a good story just KILLS my appreciation for a movie almost instantly.

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to disagree with you here. This has been said already(I read almost all of the comments), but I think you really went in expecting something else. I respect your opinion and do agree that your points are valid, but with movies like this no one really cares about dialogue, screenplay, etc. I went in expecting action up the ass and the move delivered. I thought it was AWESOME.

    My word may not count as much as Spoony’s, but I really think people should check it out, despite this review, if you just want to go out and have a fun time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lennie-Leuridan/501535316 Lennie Leuridan

    You have Said you can name several better actions movies than Boondock Saints that have that same style. Please enlighten me because I doubt it. Also The Journey man project was a great game and it doent fall into mediocrity like you said. That game was one of the first games that really made you feel there.

  • Anonymous

    The Expendables fucking rocked. Taking corny 80s movies and pushing it to the Nth degree and embracing all the cliches. All the seriousness was poking fun at a lot of old action movies that took themselves way too seriously and the destroys it with anti serious. Serious. Thats what I got from it anyway.

    The lines are meant to be dumb again like from the 80s, and no way were the lines worse then Episode II.

    Big Budget? I heard it was made under $90 mil.

    get better Spoony

  • Anonymous

    This movie seems like one of those fun films critics are going to rag on for ages about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Blayney/683346875 Michael Blayney

    I’m almost baffled that anyone would walk into this expecting *anything* beyond a bunch of dudes murdering the fuck out of other dudes. I mean, Rambo was sold on the promise of “Watch John Rambo murder the fuck out of some dudes! Again!”

    I still intend to see this, and if it’s shit, it’s shit. But I don’t buy the “missed opportunity” argument at all. From the sounds of it it delivered exactly what was promised, a stupid, loud, ensemble cast of past and present action stars hate-fucking bad guys to death.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Novak83 Ed Novak

    Wow, dude, I could’ve turned off your review after you compared it to “War” and walked away with zero motivation to ever see this film. Sounds like an excellent comparison…which is friggin’ tragic. “War” was probably the most disappointing (not necessarily bad, just incredibly disappointing) film I’ve ever seen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Washam/34316063 Rob Washam

    You should of just watched Scott Pilgrim vs The World. It was a MUCH better movie.

  • http://twitter.com/wagnerpaiva wagnerpaivafernandes

    I live in this shithole you talked about, it is called Brazil..

  • http://twitter.com/wagnerpaiva wagnerpaivafernandes

    We actually are really angry at Stallone, the government asked for appologies from Mr. Rambo and everything. And, so you people knoW, Sly GAVE THE APOLLOGIES.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    I may seem a bit overly pissed but that’s because I’ve often praised Spoony for having great interpretations of stuff. I mean, I agreed with the Dr Insano analysis of Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, which is a movie which I find okay but I REALLY don’t think it holds up well compared to other 80′s classics like Die Hard and Back to the Future. Seriously, Ferris as a supervillain? What a great interpretation! Then I get crap like this where the subtext to me could only have been more blatant if they flat out claimed their motivations and actually showed some creative writing not seen by Stallone in some time and he called it worse than freaking Strike Commando. That did NOT compute.

    I should point out also I’m willing to give him a lot, like the name thing and definitely the camera thing, but yeah, expecting Dirty Dozen and not getting the plot, that kind of stuff is something I’d expect from a film snob (not the Cinema Snob mind you).

    I will add that Scott Pilgrim, the other movie that came out this weekend worth seeing, is still the better movie. Since I’ve ranted against Spoony’s overly harsh headache-induced review (I should mention I too suffer from bad migraines so I do know the pain) I’ll point out that Expendables is, in essense, a ‘fun’ movie. Movies can generally be called good, fun or bad in my books, with fun movies not necessarily having epic writing, acting or camera angles but there’s enough content to keep you hooked, like the giant robots and Megan Fox of the Transformers movies that allow us to wade through a plot of absolute BS, or even Boondock Saints where the idiocies of the plot can be ignored if you enjoy some of the sheer creative film-making done as well as the sheer rediculousness of it all. I do think Expendables has some decent writing for a fun movie, though granted the villains and non-Expendables are pretty much phoned in. Rourke’s scenes are a good example of the writing, no question. The perfromances aren’t bad, Li and Statham actually seeming to have some inner turmoil though we don’t see enough of Crews or Couture to really get their deal. Lundgren as some insane junkie was also enjoyable, partially because while his acting is normally pretty bland in this case his manic style aided it. The action sequences are pretty solid too though as repeatedly stated the camera work doesn’t help. Maybe if Emmerich had shot it we’d of had some better shots since while Emmerich (I know he had nothing to do with the movie, I’m just name-dropping) doesn’t exactly write epic character stories he does know how to make cinematic beauty with his camera. It’s an hour an a half of action stars turning in decent performances while mixing drama with explosive action. A few creative action scenes too, a favorite of mine being Crews using his shotgun to save the day.

    Pilgrim, meanwhile, is a good movie. Everything in that film just works.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/RNUP2Z3M4MJHFI3CPYSKI5NFAM Frank

    Part of me agrees wholeheartedly with your criticisms here Spoony. The movie’s plot was incomprehensible and at a lot of points it felt to me like the characters were teleporting from place to place with little regard given for how they actually got to their destinations. The plot itself was weak as hell as you mentioned as were the characters…Regardless of my agreement with all those points going to have to disagree with you though on the movie being awful. Sure the plot sucked and the characters could have been filled in better but the action beats were fantastic in my opinion and you had some really great and fun action scenes. I wish they had kept up the energy of the last quarter of the film throughout and it would’ve been one of the better action movies ever but they failed to do this and the movie suffered for it.

  • Anonymous

    Even on twitter, Angry Joe is disagreeing with Spoony. As per usual with his cutting, “Been there, done that” attitude, Spoony waves off Joe as a Michael Bay fan, insinuating that Expendibles might as well been a Michael Bay film. Huh. Well, whether I agree with Spoony’s opinion or don’t, if he’s able to “troll” another fandom with his cantankerous rants, then so be it; this should be entertaining.

    P.S., IMO Angry Joe and Cinema Snob “gets it”, I daresay, while Spoony doesn’t. Watch their video reviews of the Expendables instead of cranky-old Spoony’s (I keed, I keed…).

  • http://twitter.com/antonycb antonycb

    Personally, I liked the film. It was a dumb action movie, and it did that pretty well. Some good one liners, I liked the baddies, the auto-shotgun was awesome, and generally all the stuff needed to happen in an action movie, happened.

    However, seems Spoony and Brad disagree. Only one can be right. How can we decide? Surely it is time for… Deadliest Critic!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t bother with The Expendables. Knew from the get go that it wouldn’t be worth the price of a ticket. I wasn’t in love with the Scott Pilgrim movie, and it is a movie with a few problems (mainly that Ramona is pretty much a one dimensional love interest who main personality trait is that she’s that girl). But it was still a fun movie with a lot of visual flair. And Micheal Cera really surprised me. I usually find him slightly less annoying then Shia Labeouf, but he pulls off the Scott Pilgrim character really well.

  • Il Principe

    Spoony, you should really watch Brad’s review, he’s basically insane with joy about the movie for its 80′ness…

  • Anonymous

    I had a feeling that this movie was going to be a really fun but dumb action homage to the 80′s (the 80′s is self being a very fun but dumb time to be living). The type of movie that you go in and check your brain out for two hours and enjoy explosions, gun fights, and a overall silly movie. I would be interesting if it was like a Dirty Dozen type movie, but then “if my aunt had a yam bag she would be my uncle”.-Taz TNA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Paige/524847594 Brian Paige

    The Expendables was great fun. I do think we needed perhaps a great martial arts guy to go against Jet Li at the end since he didn’t have enough to do, but I enjoyed it a lot. Maybe Jean Claude Van Damme could be that guy in a sequel? Or Seagal?

    Things that ruled:

    –Dolph Lundgren. Gunnar Jensen was such a fun, coked out character. You could tell Lundgren was having a blast. His fate was pretty funny but I don’t want to give it away.

    –Most of the group isn’t THAT old. Sure, Willis and Schwarzenegger are hyped but they aren’t in much of the film. Sly is really the only old guy in the main unit that fights at the end. Statham and Crews aren’t old guys, Couture isn’t that old, Li is 47 but can still go, etc. It was great to see Stallone treat Statham as an equal, with the two having great buddy chemistry.

    –Rourke. Spoony hit the nail on the head with Mickey in this film. He was awesome, especially the Bosnia speech. I don’t think Spoony got that the Bosnia speech was central to Stallone’s character motivation for the rest of the film, as in hearing about Rourke’s moral decay is what convinced Stallone to save the woman.

    –Meta humor. Sly’s line about Arnold’s character was great stuff: “This guy wants to be president!” Also a more subtle moment was when Eric Roberts had the main chick and says “I was brought up to never hit a woman, but Mr. Paine has no such qualms.” Paine of course is Steve Austin, who was arrested for beating Debra when the two were married.

    Negatives:

    –The Villains. The general was more of a puppet than a serious threat, while Eric Roberts and Austin were amusing but never especially a threat. Well maybe Austin was, since he at least got to fight Stallone and Couture. But for the most part there was no great heel to deal with. I will say that the amusing climax where Roberts has the chick hostage is a textbook cheesy action movie cliche, right down to “Throw down your guns or I’ll kill her,” “The Agency didn’t get the big picture,” and “You and I are the same.”

    –Country in peril. We’re told this but is getting rid of the general and the rogue CIA guys going to help? I think we needed a few more scenes showing the villagers being abused…not to the graphic extent of the 2008 Rambo, but how about a few honest peasants being shot for no good reason? Build the heel heat a little.

    Regardless, a sequel is in order. Let’s get Gunnar Jensen (Lundgren) in the action more this time, maybe let Tool (Rourke) do more than run his tattoo parlor, and bring in guys like Van Damme and Seagal. I think Dave Batista would be a fun addition to the cast, since he was really fun in the direct to video RVD vehicle Wrong Side of Town. In fact, why not just get RVD too and have the fanboy wet dream fight of RVD vs. JCVD?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Filipe-Isabelinho/100000173498272 Filipe Isabelinho

    I don’t know… why do many people DON’T like something because everyone else does?… or at least many many people do.

  • http://twitter.com/OlivawTweet Olivaw

    Fuck you Yin Yang and Toll Road are fucking awesome names.

    They’re nothing compared to HALE CAESER, though!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremie-Caisse/100000114247204 Jeremie Caisse

    As much as I like Spoony’s reviews, he has issues with thinking way, way, way too deeply about the movies sometime but to be fair it works sometime with Twilight and other garbages. We’re talking about a man who admitted to be anti-establishment which may easily cause strong bias. (Yeah right, I’m talking about bias when I can be extremely biased myself about certain medias.)

    It was rather boring review too mainly because its length was way, way, way too overkill but because there was a lot of moments where it was redundant so it could have been easily cut to a shorter amount of time. The part where Rambo is mentioned really is seriously way too deep. There’s tons of good movies where you go and don’t know the characters but you grow to like them. Well, its just a review and these things are simply meant to know the opinion of others or to have a general idea so eh, to each their opinion, har har. I hope you’ll feel better soon Spoony, take it easy.

  • Anonymous

    hey just something for the next video just what you opinion on Scott Pilgrim as a series, whether or not your a fan. if you aren’t then try the books and the game. I promise that the game is better than Deadliest warrior.

  • http://twitter.com/ShinAkumA21 ShinAkumA21

    angry joe and cinema snob LOVE the Expendables, looks like you’re becoming a old man Spoony LoL

  • http://twitter.com/Gorkemania_ Gorkem G

    Someone was expecting something more than dudes murdering dudes from this movie ? Talk about unrealistic expectations

  • Anonymous

    If you have to ask…

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    Pretentious? You get a rediculous wild and crazy ride. You want Pretentious, go see Rent.

  • Anonymous

    My friends and I were not expecting it to be anything more than what it was. I knew it was going to be basic. My friend Steve predicted when we went in that we would get 30 minutes of plot and 90 of explosions. And for the most part he was right.

    It was good to see once, but that’s as far as I would give it.

    Now Scott Pilgrim, that movie was awesome. Lot’s of fun, and worth seeing it, especially if you play video games.

  • Anonymous

    I have to ask because you’ve pulled “hurr-durr, HIPSTOR!” card several times and made no effort to back it up. Are you just trying to troll or do you honestly have no idea what you’re talking about?

  • http://www.youtube.com/kidmagnum Andy Torres

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    Just added my review of “TNA: The Whole F’n Show” and I think I asskiss Spoony like…six times in part 4. Good times!

    Fifth time: Spoony, I love you like a sister!

  • Saltersta

    Hey I always like seeing the thoughts on movies i enjoy. Great fun flick but I am not saying it was a “good” movie. I went to this movie and got what i wanted from it. Big kill count. I think the biggest flaw was that there wasn’t enough one on one fights with anyone cept for the 2-3 you get. I agree with the villians. The villians were forgetable well Steve Austin was great due him only having a few lines. Scott Pilgrim Yeah its a must see.

  • http://thedrakkongrimoire.blogspot.com/ NDrakkon

    Hmmm, disappointing by the sounds of it. I actually got my hopes up about this when I heard the list of names.

    Instead of going to see it I’ll probably just watch Commando, First Blood Part II, Die Hard, and Masters of the Universe… wait?

    I think I’ll pick up Expendables on DVD cheap, it might pass some time in the brain-off big explosions department.

  • http://soldierhawk.wordpress.com/ SoldierHawk

    Nice review Spoony! But as someone who gets migraines myself, I have to ask what kind of a masochist you must be to sit through a movie with one. :( Ouch.

  • http://bluehighwind.blogspot.com/ BlueHighwind

    Should have seen Scott Pilgrim like I did today. Bad move, Spoony.

  • Anonymous

    I like how Dolph seems to play swedish instead of russian kind of like John Cho playing korean nowadays instead of chinese.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously! I believe he killed like what… 140 people onscreen or something? The guy’s like Brock Samson!

  • Anonymous

    I went with my brother. Usually I’m the one to point out problems but he actually noticed a lot of stuff first. I actually did enjoy the fight scenes, but after the novelty of those wear off the problems really start to be glaring. I think my biggest problem was the plothole at the end where Dolph is suddenly welcomed back with open arms even though he betrayed the team, and almost killed Jet Li before getting shot. We also laughed like hell when Stallone made that “Jump” to the plane. But yeah I agree there wasn’t enough characterization, and the editing made what should have been an easy story to tell pretty hard to follow at times.

  • Anonymous

    It REALLY doesn’t. Nor can it. It’s far too popular, and the characters and creator, not to mention the actors and director for the movie, all honestly love video games, comics, music, etc. Not saying this applies to Dante007 or anyone else here, but I think alot of people accuse this movie, as well as other things, of being hipster because they don’t want to admit that they’re incapable of being able to be both geeks AND have a lively social life. It’s like a scapegoat to say “Well… they can’t be REAL geeks if they’re going to parties and hanging out with people that I can’t. They must be posers pretending they are!”

    It’s something you’ll see very often when celebrities talk about liking comics and reading them when they have a comic movie role, like Ryan Reynolds, Brandon Routh, or Seth Rogen. People just say, “Oh they’re just pretending to like the comics because they got the role.” This is especially true for female stars like Olivia Munn or Megan Fox, who when they talk about geeky things, all of a sudden you see bitch fits across the internet. It’s like people can’t like the same niche things you like AND be attractive and successful or something.

    Or maybe it might be another kind of jealousy. Scott Pilgrim has been one of, if not the, most successful comic series of the last half a dozen years. For example, every volume is on Amazon’s Top 100 Books. Not just comic books. Not just teen books. But books in general. It’s also the only comic on the list. The fact that it’s so easily accessible and friendly for non-comic readers (along with several other indie titles), make other fans mad that it isn’t THEIR favorite series that people are reading, or is getting a movie, or a video game, or a bunch of awesome music about it. Case and point: Scott Pilgrim has had a movie come out before Thor, Captain America, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, or The Flash. And while I both love superhero comics AND am totally cool with it, alot of people aren’t. They say “How come this comic is getting so much positive attention, a movie, game, etc. when all these characters who’ve been famous for decades aren’t?!?!?”

    I dunno. It’s complicated. As a geek, I can say quite comfortably that geek psychology is incredibly weird and hard to figure out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NTXWZZKUWFID66WRMVWZPD3FE Peter Buila

    i went to go see Scott pilgrim and the expendables on the same day bad move on my part because Scott sticks out more because i saw that last. on the topic of the expendables all that movie really needs is a prequel. some way to tell us more about the characters and there beginning as a team. now on to scott pilgrim the one thing that struck me was the fighting was better film absolutely no shaky cam and that’s what makes the action in the movie. the comidey kinda goes over your head if you haven’t read the comic like me the world feels like its being run by the ESRB and a fighting game company. the romance feels like its weaved into the the plot witch is a little weird considering its a love story in the end all in all its a good movie can’t wait to see you break it down

  • Anonymous

    yes, finally someone agrees…..Boondock Saints sucks! and no it wasn’t your migraine, that movie was really hard to follow during the action scenes

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZF2HHR52GL23PNY7CCE5A77PHI Dylan L

    I have to respectfully disagree with the majority of you guys. This movie was okay. It was awesome seeing Jason Statham, Jet Li, Mickey Rourke, Stallone and others in this movie. But the shaky camera, poor dialogue, and generic villains (The villains in Under Siege 2 were better) were all annoying. Also I’m 17 so I don’t think I consider myself an old man and I love action films. I also came into this with no expectations. I’m not trying to piss you guys off or anything but I agree with Spoony.

  • http://koolthingzzz.blogspot.com Thom_Not_Tom

    Can the word “hipster” be removed from any conversation, ever? It’s the equivalent of calling someone “gay” in middle school — in that it’s just a synonym for “anything I don’t like.” Scott Pilgrim was an awesome movie experience, incredibly unpretentious, and far more nerdy and video game reference-y than “hipster.” You make it sound like all they do in the movie is sit around and talk about how Arcade Fire have sold out, or some shit. If you had any argument against the film aside from, “hipsters, LAWL,” I’d at least respectfully disagree with you, but you’re just being lazy! In conclusion, FUCK OFF.

  • http://koolthingzzz.blogspot.com Thom_Not_Tom

    Can the word “hipster” be removed from any conversation, ever? It’s the equivalent of calling someone “gay” in middle school — in that it’s just a synonym for “anything I don’t like.” Scott Pilgrim was an awesome movie experience, incredibly unpretentious, and far more nerdy and video game reference-y than “hipster.” You make it sound like all they do in the movie is sit around and talk about how Arcade Fire have sold out, or some shit. If you had any argument against the film aside from, “hipsters, LAWL,” I’d at least respectfully disagree with you, but you’re just being lazy! In conclusion, FUCK OFF.

  • http://koolthingzzz.blogspot.com Thom_Not_Tom

    See, I would say it can’t be “hipster,” because that word doesn’t MEAN anything! When did this obsession with hipsters begin? When even people who are generally considered hipsters start talking about how much they hate hipsters, you know that the word means NOTHING.

  • http://koolthingzzz.blogspot.com Thom_Not_Tom

    Agreed. That word is similar to “hipster” in its overuse. The definition of pretentious is: “expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature.” Southland Tales is pretentious. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World? Not so much.

  • http://koolthingzzz.blogspot.com Thom_Not_Tom

    I can MAYBE understand liking Boondock Saints if you’ve never seen a Tarantino movie, or even a decent knockoff like Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. Still, that movie is so atrocious that Willem Dafoe hamming it up can’t even save it. The dude that made it (Troy Duffy) is a total jackass, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=629096586 Daoud Barbour

    I just got back from the film and it rocked. Sure they could have spent more time fleshing out the other Expendables other than Stallone and Statham but you can only fit so much plot into a movie like this before it starts to slow down the pace.

    Bottom line, if you go into this movie expecting oscar-winning dialogue and story…no, just no. This is an action movie, and it does a great job of delivering that. Aside from the occasional jerky camera, but then again…

    How else do you make Dolph Lungdren look like he’s a match for Jet Li in a fist fight?

  • Anonymous

    I had laugh at Spoony thinking that The Cinema Snob would agree with him, dude seriously Brad like most of us is actually a huge fan of 80′s action flicks and isn’t going to be turned off because he wasn’t sure what tone the movie was going for, no in fact he’s going to geek out and enjoy it, which he did.

    But then if you weren’t a grumbly old curmudgeon you wouldn’t be Spoony.

  • Anonymous

    omg i hated boondock saints

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesse-M-Danielson/6028162 Jesse M. Danielson

    Worse than Strike Commando? Damn! Harsh!

    Now I almost have to see it just to find out if that is true.

  • Swang Lee

    Cinema Snob’s review > Spoony’s review

  • Anonymous

    Spoony isn’t always a curmudgeon, Just most of the time, I know for a fact that he likes David Cronenberg films, Persona 3 and Firefly. When it comes to everything else though he is the king of nitpicks.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    Yeah, its nice to see them actually playing their nationalities isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    According to IMDb Rambo killed 236 people in that movie. That being the highest body count of any other Rambo movie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    Man, Spoony, what the fuck were you doing going to watch a loud action movie with a migraine.
    Just because of that, I’m rendering your review moot – after all, if you’re a GOOD movie critic, you should come into a movie in a competent condition. No offence to you, btw – big fan here.
    Another thing – why are you overthinking this. No, seriously – why? This movie wasn’t made to be seen and analyzed – you were supposed to enjoy the action, which I did.

    Also, I would really like to go see Scott Pilgrim, but Cera’s face makes it impossible. God, I really hate the bastard.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XQTK4AE6VRGZK2DKQCWTGZYQVQ johnny

    Do a rifftrax of The Boondock Saints

  • Anonymous

    That wasn’t really a plothole: they kinda just forgave him. These things happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Carlander/1373652195 Benjamin Carlander

    Dolph Lundgren is 6’6″ and has a third degree blackbelt. Jet Li won’t win that easily.

  • Anonymous

    You should ask Brad if he’s interested in helping with 12;01

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDLYJR4ONULF4QW4BSDTLGD6L4 Doc Noel

    nitpick much?seriously…i kinda saw your point through out 2/3 of this review…well…i was still gonna watch it anyway… but at least i saw your point…till the last 8 minutes.thats the point where it just got incredibly irrational.comparing completely fictional action movie characters to real life persons?are u serious?…really no offence.but i got the strong feeling u kinda got on the wrong foot with this movie.

    maybe u should rewatch it without a pounding migraine. ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-M-Turner/1194146450 Paul M Turner

    hey guys it’s Leslie Striker fer reals!

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    Does spoony have mind control over you or something? Watch it yourself and judge it for yourself. Spoony isnt God.
    If you are a fan of action like commando and first blood II you’ll love this film. Trust me.

    • http://thedrakkongrimoire.blogspot.com/ NDrakkon

      Maybe you didn’t read my comment very closely but that’s pretty much what I said. After listening to Spoony’s review the film “sounds” disappointing to me. I don’t know if it truly “is” disappointing until I see it. I have decided (and nobody else) that I would rather watch some of my old favourites than going to see this at the cinema.

      I’m going to pick it up on DVD. I can wait for films.

      Also, nobody has mind control over me. I’m a belligerent, penny-pinching, Scotsman. I make decisions based on my opinion, judgement and how little it will cost me.

      Spoony isn’t God? Thank you Captain Obvious, but even if Spoony was God that wouldn’t make me blindly fall in line with him. I agree or disagree with people based on my own reasons and opinions.

      And finally, why should I trust you? Who are you John? The simple fact is you’re nobody to me, some random person on the internet who, while I am open to hear your opinion, I do not have to agree with or trust. I do make up my own mind on everything, you’ve got nothing to do with it.

      Spoony on the other hand through watching his other videos often has opinions that are similar to my own, and a similar view point can be a useful tool when constructing your own opinion as referential or anecdotal information. That is the reason that people watch reviews of different things by a variety of people, to see what others think about something and decide if they agree or not. What you are failing to realise is that in the grand scheme of things the only thing which matters to me is my own opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Gonna reply on some twitter feeds from Spoony for the lulz. ^_^

    “I don’t even want to watch Joe’s review because I already know it’s all “DUDE, FUCKING STALLONE MAN, and STATHAM! DUDE!”

    Yes, because lack of research in order to reinforce your opinions never stopped you before. 9_9

    “No no, I admit that Expendables is a “switch your brain off at the door” movie full of “durr hurr explosions,” but again, very poorly-filmed”

    I like how this sentence admits one thing, then contradicts itself by the end. Very, oh, hypocritical. Then again, this isn’t the first time you’ve been accused of hypocrisy, as evidenced by your NEVER PUBLISHED IN THE FRONT PAGE video concerning a certain Retraux on Sonic the Hedgehog.

    “Bah, don’t play the “Spoony hates” everything card on me. I give positive reviews all the time, ya whiny peons.”

    How about “Spoony hates almost everything” and unless his expectations are met, he’ll rationalize his opinion to every last argument as correct and use his “loads of movies I’ve watched, you don’t know any better hurr durr!” opinion to counteract everyone else’s opinion?

    Seriously though, dude, it’s okay that you’ll hate the Expendables. Just don’t be so naive in expecting your “peons” to agree with everything you say; they watch you because you’re funny, not because you’re speaking to the choir. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/MatthewMk2 Matthew S

    I love you Spoony!

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    Another would-be troll attempts to goad The Spoony One, and subsequently gets his 12-year-old ass banned…
    Keep ‘em comin’, lads!

  • Anonymous

    He must be one of Spoony’s “peons”. ^_^

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Alden/100000469737019 Christopher Alden

    Considering your condition going in, Spoony, I wonder if you were just kinda predisposed not to like it. I get terrible sinus headaches myself, and when I have one, I hate the world.

    As for this movie? I really enjoyed it. It was great seeing all these guys do what they do together. You say it could have been more than that; I say it didn’t really need to be.

  • Anonymous

    “Another would-be troll attempts to goad The Spoony One, and subsequently gets his 12-year-old ass banned…
    Keep ‘em comin’, lads!”

    Ah, but I said I disagreed. If I were to say, troll, I’d put out the tried-and-true “NEVAR GONNA WATCH YOU EVAR!” complaint, which I won’t do because I am looking forward to Wrestle! Wrestle! and the next Final Fantasy segments. Gentle ribbing and correctly pointing out logical leaps isn’t equal to trolling, my good lad. Learn the difference.

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    “I like how this sentence admits one thing, then contradicts itself by the end. Very, oh, hypocritical.”
    ‘Gentle ribbing’ has gotten awful nasty of late…

  • Anonymous

    “‘Gentle ribbing’ has gotten awful nasty of late…”

    Not any worse than what Spoony does, and besides, that falls under the category of “logical leap” on Spoony’s part. If you want to debate it something else, please do. This is what the comments are for.

  • Anonymous

    He already did (check out his Twitter on the right side of the page). Guess what? He’s dead-set on hating the Expendables anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Moar twittars!

    “Why yes, I am a self-important twat with a big ego. And? You say that like it’s a bad thing. You wish you were me. Hah! Heel turn!”

    Guys, agree with him or not, Spoony’s been on a roll. He’s one of those guys who’ll do well and make money whether he has a fandom to support him or a hatedom that mocks him. For me, he’s entertaining either way. ^_^

    (He’s still being a old cantankerous coot reminiscent of Roger Ebert and video games being art with his seething, rationalized dislike of the Expendables, but like Ebert, I still respect him).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDLYJR4ONULF4QW4BSDTLGD6L4 Doc Noel

    interesting comparison ;) …even though this review still sounds to me like an old man disliking his soup.

    lova ya spoony XD

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KY3EKS3NYAZWIS7JSYXDWZNSEA Nick

    If you’re just going to troll, rant, and criticize, why not just go and take a walk or a bike ride or go play some halo. It’s not necessary to waste your time and others’ time with negative comments directed at Spoony. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. It’s up to you. Personally, I’m not surprised that a new Stallone movie doesn’t live up to the old ones.

    @Spoony: Get better soon!

  • Anonymous

    “If you’re just going to troll, rant, and criticize, why not just go and take a walk or a bike ride or go play some halo. It’s not necessary to waste your time and others’ time with negative comments directed at Spoony.”

    Well, that sounds rather hypocritical… particularly the criticize part. By your logic, fans of the Expendables can say, “If you’re just going to criticize the Expendables, then don’t watch it!” Or, for a more extreme example, a Final Fantasy fan/Uwe Boll fan/TNA fan/Twilight fan saying the same thing. If Spoony can go ahead and criticize the Expendables, why shouldn’t people criticize his criticism too?

    “If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. It’s up to you. Personally, I’m not surprised that a new Stallone movie doesn’t live up to the old ones.”

    Spoony never did follow the “If you don’t like x, then don’t watch/play/listen to x”; in fact, I daresay that your argument is the exact opposite of what the Spoony Experiment is all about.

    “@Spoony: Get better soon!”

    Your post sounds like a typical fanboy’s post, but I’m open-minded. Why do you think people are being “unfair” to Spoony for calling him out on his logical leaps, lack of research, mocking him for presuming that Cinema Snob agreed to his rants, and so on? I’m all ears (figuratively, at least).

  • http://twitter.com/MrRandyWatson1 Randy Watson

    I wake up and Spoony has a hundred twitter updates on this subject (have some respect for Angry Joe at least). I say this as a fan, but grow up dude.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    “But then if you weren’t a grumbly old curmudgeon you wouldn’t be Spoony.”

    … with a migrane :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7JMFJHKVR6F3TKHJJU2RFEVLY Tom

    I agree with you fully Spoony anyone who can possibly praise this film dosnt understand good film making, the camera angles were totally unacceptable why the “shakey cam” technique is still being used is beyond me its just confuses the audience and causes headaches. The fact that the movie has all these big stars is not enough sure the scene with Arnie, Willis and Stallone was amusing and most of the actors did a good enough job but this dosnt save the awful script and dire badly filmed action scenes. I could forgive the movie fully even with its sentence long worthy synopsis if I could see what was going on. I can respect reviewers positive comments but this is not 8/10 worthy stuff in my honest opinion.

  • http://twitter.com/Piehead678 Keegan McCarthy

    People need to know what an opinion is…

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    I, myself, respect Spoony by all means, but I won’t be a “peon” of his and agree with everything he says.

  • Anonymous

    What are you even talking about? I called it hipster for a reason, it is. If you don’t realize how, then there’s no point in pretending it’s not. Quiet now, little one.

  • http://twitter.com/otakugal15 otakugal15

    Well, I did kind of like the film. I mainly went to see it cause my mom really wanted to see it. And yeah she likes Stallone films. I’ve only ever really seen the Rambo films and 1 1/2 of the Rocky films. So I am not a good judge of Stallone films.

    But, yeah, I did kind of like this one, but the plot was…..meh. I kind of walked out of the theater with a confused look on my face cause I couldn’t decided if I really liked it or hated it. Still don’t. The action scenes were fun to watch. Over the top like whoa, but fun. Didn’t really care about Stallone himself, I mostly just liked Jet Li and Jason Statham. Heh, I liked the knives more than the duel guns.

    But overall……eh. Fun, but eh. If I had had a better choice and not disappointed my mom, I’d have gone to see either Inception (i still haven’t seen it yet D:) or Scott Pilgrim.

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    Except Spoony ADMITS that he’s a snarky jackass with controversial opinions…

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    When you have to specifically state you’re saying something as a fan, you’re really not…
    Especially when you follow it up with ‘grow up dude’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAHJQLWDK2FA2HUMUXGP2RQ7B4 Alexander Alexander

    You shouldn’t have seen the movie with a migraine. I know you wanted to get the review out but it would have been much better to wait a day or two and put out the review when you could really watch the movie.

  • Anonymous

    To me it is. It doesn’t make sense. These guys are mercs. Mercs don’t take kindly to one of them turning on them, even if he or she is out of their mind at the time. They’re not going to put their entire operation at risk for that one person. They’re going to take them out permanently to keep themselves alive, and unnoticed from other groups.
    Look. I’m a campy action fan. I get they didn’t want me, and other Dolph fans to whine because he died or whatever, but seriously it doesn’t make sense having him so easily welcomed back. They should have either A) had him tell Stallone everything, then die, and leave it at that or B) If they WERE deadset on having him live, have him show up in the final battle, saving the team by putting his neck on the line to attone for his crimes. That would have been at least a little more believable if they accepted him back then. It wasn’t the worst movie ever made or anything, but I think had they gone over some of this before release it would have been a much more widely accepted movie.
    And that’s not to say I didn’t have a good time. I have Army of One (Joshua Tree), Cover Up, Red Scorpion, and Masters of the universe on DVD. I enjoyed myself, but when I find less to go “Wait a minute” over after watching those. (Except for MOTU, even as a kid I felt pretty ripped off) I have to wonder how much rewatch value better editing could have added.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    Man, Spoony, what’s with the Twitter.
    You’re the one coming off as a whiny crybaby by complaining about the people who disliked your review. You should have expected this kind of a reaction, since your review wasn’t exactly..well done. Please, just calm down, and let this be a lesson to you in the future – never watch a loud movie with a migraine.

    Hope to see another FFX video soon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Shelton-Brown/1587610163 William Shelton Brown

    SPOONY!

    GO SEE SCOTT PILGRIM!

    It has hot Aubrey Plaza. In Glasses!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    Dude, you really are white-knighting Spoony. He doesn’t need your defence.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll have to bring up the fanboy card on you, because you’re obviously one.

  • Anonymous

    Oh right, and a criticism criticizing a criticism is obviously not an opinion, amiright?

  • Anonymous

    It’s really worrying how many wrong opinions Spoony has had lately. There’s no need to rush the reviews, just take some time to “spy” others to find out what the generally accepted correct opinions are and go with the flow.

  • Anonymous

    Huh. I’ve been flagged by the fanboys. Well, that’s strange, I was actually giving Spoony a bone there by saying that he’s entertaining regardless if he’s being inane or not. I even compared him to Ebert, who I respect even though I disagree with. If you Spoony fanboys are going to flag a comment of mine, then go with the “lulz” one; at least then I’d understand why you flagged it. Seriously, you make the Final Fantasy VIII fans look calm and composed.

  • Anonymous

    “You’re the one coming off as a whiny crybaby by complaining about the people who disliked your review.”

    QFT.

  • Anonymous

    “When you have to specifically state you’re saying something as a fan, you’re really not…”

    Spoony is a big boy. He can handle being criticized. Being a fan doesn’t entail blindly sucking up and accepting Spoony’s word as law, you know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    lmao i didnt know that whining was considered telling off the douchebags that just whine because he does what he does.
    and even if he did watch it without a migraine he would’ve given it the same damn review.

  • Anonymous

    Aww poor spoony :( i totally hear ya about headaches!! i get them all the time too! REAL BAD mind fuckingly painful ones…best things are rest in a quiet room…no loud crappy movies ^_^…and ice lots of cold cold ice tends to help…hope this helped love ya spoony ^_^

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Guys Spoony not having a migraine wouldn’t have changed a damn thing about his review. Spoony is professional and he would’ve given the same damn review if he had just gotten layed so get over it.

  • Anonymous

    “i didnt know that whining was considered telling off the douchebags that just whine because he does what he does.”

    Wait, so are we talking about Spoony or the people who liked the Expendables? Because it’s either they’re both whining, or they’re both telling each other off. It has to be one or the other.

  • Anonymous

    “Maybe seeing a Stallone movie with a migraine wasn’t the best idea.”

    uh…yeah i’m gonna have to agree with that. that was just…really REALLY dumb. haha and it probably did honestly color your review, which is really not fair to any movie. i mean, i don’t give a rats ass about professional critics and what they say, but a lot of people do and it would be pretty unfair for a movie to get rocked at the box office because a respected critic reviewed it through squinted eyes and blinding pain. hey, i’m not the boss of you, but you should really think about that in the future. I’m not trying to champion the expendables, i actually haven’t even seen it yet (though i’m gonna…yes that’s right trolls, fans of spoony can actually disagree with him and still like his work…and they can even do it without cursing…i know, crazy) but i’m just saying that any movie deserves all your cognitive skills running up to standard before you can write it off (not just this movie)

    oh yeah and…man, i think you’re having waaaaaaaay too much fun with these trolls. it’s pretty sad, that i don’t even have twitter (what with twitter being one of the seven signs of the oncoming apocolypse and all) and i’ve heard all about your ranting. look, i’m perfectly aware you and joe and lord kat and all those guys are pals and this is all good natured (if brutal) razzing of eachother. i can’t figure out why like…80% of all the people who’ve read it (or any of your reviews and comments) have no clue about that or why it never occurs to them, but i gotta admit, if i didn’t have more than 2 nuerons to rub together that weren’t already too busy keeping me breathing, you would kinda sound like a giant dick. plus, there’s a difference between abusing folks on your fan list (which honestly people should expect if they come here) but if you’re gonna do it another guy’s fan thread…egh, maybe that’s a little fucked up. it certainly raises the percentage of people who just don’t get the joke up exponetially.

    unless…of course that’s your plan and feeding the trolls are making you even more money, which, honestly, i doubt there’s ANYONE on this thread, or any thread that would not do it if it made them boatloads of cash (and really people, please don’t comment and say that you’d be different…you wouldn’t. even if you really thought you might, in his position, you wouldn’t, i sure wouldn’t and there’s no shame in that) and if that’s the case, and this is all part of insano’s mad plan to generate ad revenue by shaking up some internet losers into hitting your site over and over again just to keep the battle going then…well, by all means, here’s another chum bucket, over the side with it, i see troll fins, circling on the horizon. haha

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Nope, not as long as some people can have opinnions on that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    No, not really.
    Do you know how much a migraine hurts?
    It hurts a lot, and seeing a flashy, loud movie would place you in a horrible state. Thus, I refuse to accept this review as legit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    yes ive had one but it didn’t change my whole perception of things…it didn’t change my personality…he would destroyed the movie either way.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Migrane affects people differently, you must understand that. Pain can very easily cloud your judgement.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Trolls equal free money.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    he’s reviewed games/videos sick and while in post-mouth surgery before…So i seriously doubt this would be his worst review just because of a migraine. Nothing would have changed his review.

  • Anonymous

    hey, i think you might need to relax, man. I’m not trying to pick a fight here (which i’m probably gonna get anyway) but i think people take this comment stuff waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously. this is a comedy site, man, lighten up. and i’m not really singling you out, you just have alot of comment here on the top, but people need to relax and realize that this is a show. so is angry joe, so is lordkat. these guys are all friends, have been for a while. they tend to do this to eachother, if you saw this kind of argument in the street, would you feel a need to get invovled? would you really even care? or would you just assume it’s a bunch of guys razzing eachother (in the typical brutal guy way, we all do it) was anything worth getting upset about?

    I mean really, there’s only a couple possibilities. either A) you’re overreacting to a joke between friends, in which case you are actually behaving like the jackass you claim you are fighting against (ie callling people dumb fanboys for disagreeing with you and generally picking a fight anywhere you can find it) and really just causing a problem where there wasn’t one and you’re wasting your time

    or B) you’re right and spoony really is a raving douchebag with no respect for his fans, his friends, or any human life for that matter, in which case, odds are he doesn’t read these, doesn’t care what any of us think, and you already gave him the ad revenue just by watching the video in the first place and you are …still wasting your time. either way, you probably have better things to do right?

    even if you’re right, and i really don’t think that’s the case, i really think this is a case of people taking a joke way too seriously, but even if you’re right, fighting with his other fans, no matter how obsessive, rude, or generally unpleasant some of them may be, you’re really not making any headway in fixing the problem. you sound like a smart guy, i’m sure this makes sense to you

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Spoony or Brad?

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Sickness does not necesarily equate pain, and pain in mouth doesn’t really affect brain that much.

    But believe what you want, you have the right to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    it wouldn’t even matter if he fed the trolls by what he’s doing anyway cause they seem to come here and bitch on his videos anyways.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Yes true. But i just think Spoony is more professional than people think him out to be. Its just unlike other reviewers he expresses how he felt. Hell if Roger Ebert told ya he had a headache when going to a movie would you still throw it out. I doubt it.

  • http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

    So you’d rather his reviews be like everyone else’s instead of being what he truly feels? I feel sorry for you, then.

    My take on this whole deal is that, yes, it’s possible that Spoony’s migraine had an effect on his review. At the same time, if he wouldn’t have liked the movie even without a migraine, even when other people like the movie, is he really wrong? NO. He simply has a different opinion, and he has every right to defend his opinion just as the people who liked the Expendables have every right to defend theirs. If he thinks “Deadliest Warrior: The Game” was sub-par even for a budget game, you know what? That’s his opinion, and he has every right to defend it.

    Honestly, I think the reason that even on Twitter, he’s been playing this up as a “heel turn” is because he knows that the furor people are having over this is just completely and utterly ridiculous, so he’s countering the silliness with his own. That’s the way he is, and I for one would find it even more disrespectful if he wasn’t that way, or if he DID simply pattern his review after everyone else’s opinions. Reviews are supposed to be subjective opinions, not WORD OF GOD ULTIMATE TRUTH.

  • Anonymous

    “hey, i think you might need to relax, man. I’m not trying to pick a fight here (which i’m probably gonna get anyway) but i think people take this comment stuff waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously. this is a comedy site, man, lighten up.”

    Hmmm? Did you see the comment they flagged? What in my comment makes it look like I was raging in the high heavens (because reading through your diatribe, it seems to me that you’ve gotten that impression). I’m merely and correctly noting that it’s strange for the Spoony fanboys to flag the comment where I was praising him and acknowledging that he has every right to like or hate anything he wants.

    Also, it’s quite obvious that Spoony is ribbing on Angry Joe over Twitter. That won’t stop me from picking apart any possible logical leaps in his arguments, though, and it’s not going to affect Spoony any. This is what the comments are for, after all; discussions on the video itself and the topics related to it. If I came off as a raging, snarling troll, then my apologies; that wasn’t my intention.

  • Anonymous

    you know, you’re absolutely right. i have NEVER seen this many heated, uncalled for, “fuck your mother” kind of arguments on anyone’s site (outside of youtube anyway) and they just keep coming. I dunno, maybe TGWTG is just faster and less forgiving about banning or something, but i really don’t see this kind of stuff on there or the AVGN or anything. spoony actually said once that his friends at TGWTG really don’t want him posting links to their work on his page because his fans are so out of control and so unable to be civil and even more so, take a joke. i know his girlfriend was in a video i never saw because he actually took it down because apparently (i think) the trolls said so much really hurtful and unneccessary crap to/about her that he took it down in rage. it’s about when the new comment system was installed. and i guess it had more lasting effects, because i’ve never seen scarlet (his gf) try to be in a video ever again.

    that’s why i’m more forgiving of spoony’s troll battles. spoony actually never used to say much of anything about the trolls, but things changed. and if i had to put up with all the shit he’s put up with from whiny needy disrepectful people, if they were insulting my girlfriend so much she wanted nothing more to do with the videos, and my friends didn’t even want to be posted on my site…i dunno, yeah i’d be a pretty pissed off, brutal take no prisoners kinda motherfucker, and i would ban the shit out of these people. he didn’t just decide one day to start banning people. the punks with the big mouths started that, and made trouble for everyone. people just don’t seem to realize that.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    As I said, migrane (and generally pain) affect people’s ability to judge differently, others can be rational and judge as they judge normally under “special ciruimstances / conditions”, like Ebert. But you’re probably right about the fact that he would not change his opinnion, but he should’ve had different expectations for this one (money does not equal quality).

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Exactly…thats all that needs to be said.

  • Anonymous

    I know I might be coming off pretty…what’s the word I’m looking for…well, overly sympathetic when I say this, Spoony, but I really understand what you’re having to deal with right now, at least from the perspective of somebody who dislikes a lot of what other people love and getting a ton of heat because of it.

    See, a movie like The Expendables…I just don’t care. I’ve enjoyed action movies before, and I still enjoy the occasional one, but something like this is just a cry for attention to me. It’s a movie trying to reel in a large audience just because it has Stallone and Statham and Lee and Schwarzenegger. Even more dumb to me (IMO, of course), is that people defend it because it’s a “throwback”. Seriously, what? Just when did “throwing back” become of higher a value than moving forward onto new and better things? I’m tired of seeing remakes and “throwbacks” and sequels. For fuck’s sake, I want to see something I haven’t seen before, even if it’s something as simple as a new actor.

    However, because I express my opinions openly like you do (albeit not to such a large degree), I tend to get a lot of hate. And after a while, I get annoyed by it. I start to see just how easy people are to please and just want to rip their fucking heads off.

    I’m not perfect, though, and neither are you. Nobody is. However, I’m genuinely surprised at how similar our opinions are. I had my mind made up on Expendables before I even saw it, and I expected you to LOVE it, because it’s, well, a film that was made specifically to get people to say “Awesome!”. But you didn’t like it.

    Anyway, I know how corny I’m sounding right now, so I’ll end this post quick. Bottom line, you have my support all the way, Spoony. If your “fans” can’t accept the fact that their favorite (or one of) critics actually has his own opinions and wanted more out of such an all-star cast, then I say fuck ‘em.

    And of course, I’m willing to bet somebody’s going to pull the “fanboy” card on me as is usually the case in situations such as these. Feel free to do so. More often than not, I agree with Spoony, and those opinions are also my own. I happen to be quite disappointed in him for not giving FFIX a chance, but hey, I’m not going to hate on him for it. I also think Deadly Premonition is one the the worst games I’ve ever laid eyes upon, and am astonished as once AGAIN, there are actual fans of that game who only defend it because it’s a “throwback”. What the fuck ever, guys.

    • Anonymous

      “If your “fans” can’t accept the fact that their favorite (or one of) critics actually has his own opinions and wanted more out of such an all-star cast, then I say fuck ‘em.”

      Well, that’s rather disingenuous of you to say. So are you claiming that the only ones who have a right to be fans of Spoony are those that blindly agree with him? That’s not a fandom at all; that’s a cult. Besides which, I’ve seen FFX fans and FFVIII fans who’ve stayed with Spoony all this time because he’s funny and he makes excellent points, not because they agree with him.

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    So I’m not allowed to bait the trolls either?
    Spoony gets all the fun these days…
    (Also, I like how you can’t even respond to my post; you have to question my ability to POSSESS an argument.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Yes unfortunately instead of people having an open mind about spoonys reviews and saying “ok so he doesnt like it, but i do”….but everyone goes and just throws out every possible cuss word there is.
    And if anyone throws the fanboy card…just backhand them

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Just like Avatar.

  • Anonymous

    I actually did a search on the “fuck your mother” argument you’re talking about through Firefox’s find function. Nothing came up. I then tried “fuck you”, and it was just one comment saying that the Ying Yang and Toad Roll names were awesome. What are these “many” “heated” “uncalled for” arguments you’re talking about?

    • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

      he’s talking about old videos dude.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    You know, after reading most comments, I fail to see people actually trolling. Most of them are either surprised that he went to see a movie like The Expendables while having a migraine or that he nitpicked too much into a silly action movie.
    Btw, read Spoony’s Twitter – he’s the one coming off as a whiny guy.

    And I’m a fan of his work, to be honest – I enjoy watching nearly every video he posts.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t actually read the flagged one, it was already gone. i just saw a lot of comments sort of heatedly contesting back and forth with some spoony defenders (and those guys, as much as they are trying, most of the time don’t help either, to be fair)

    and yeah, that’s what comments are for,and of course everyone has the right to an opinion. i def. wouldn’t argue with that. and like i said i wasn’t really singling you out, you just had the most comments at the top so i replied to one of those.
    and just so you know (and this is not me being a dick, i promise) you really do come off as very confrontational. it really does sound like you wanna fight, and people will be happy to oblige, there’s ALWAYS someone who wants to fight on a spoony thread. I was really just saying that you’re prob. wasting your time fighting with them. either spoony’s just acting and that makes you kind of a jerk, no matter how good your intentions, or you’re right and spoony’s a schmuck, but sadly, if it’s true, none of us could do anything about it, no matter how good your intentions. it’s kind of a catch 22

    though, i gotta tell you. i appreciate the whole answering like an adult thing. alot of people would have just responded with “shut up spoony fanboy, i’m a troll and i’m teh shiznit” and insult my mother or something with terrible spelling and grammar. (and to be frank that’s what i was expecting) so thanks.

    and i tend to be more on spoony’s side when it comes to these comment wars for a few reasons. i posted another comment while yakking with someone above, so i’ll just copy/paste it here instead of restating it:

    “you know, you’re absolutely right. i have NEVER seen this many heated, uncalled for, “fuck your mother” kind of arguments on anyone’s site (outside of youtube anyway) and they just keep coming. I dunno, maybe TGWTG is just faster and less forgiving about banning or something, but i really don’t see this kind of stuff on there or the AVGN or anything. spoony actually said once that his friends at TGWTG really don’t want him posting links to their work on his page because his fans are so out of control and so unable to be civil and even more so, take a joke. i know his girlfriend was in a video i never saw because he actually took it down because apparently (i think) the trolls said so much really hurtful and unneccessary crap to/about her that he took it down in rage. it’s about when the new comment system was installed. and i guess it had more lasting effects, because i’ve never seen scarlet (his gf) try to be in a video ever again.

    that’s why i’m more forgiving of spoony’s troll battles. spoony actually never used to say much of anything about the trolls, but things changed as the trolls got bolder. and if i had to put up with all the shit he’s put up with from whiny needy disrepectful people, if they were insulting my girlfriend so much she wanted nothing more to do with the videos, and my friends didn’t even want to be posted on my site…i dunno, yeah i’d be a pretty pissed off, brutal take no prisoners kinda motherfucker, and i would ban the shit out of these people. he didn’t just decide one day to start banning people. the punks with the big mouths started that, and made trouble for everyone. people just don’t seem to realize that.”

    so yeah, i’ve seen all that stuff go down over the last year, so i tend to be more forgiving of spoony’s brutal out of control raging. i’m not sure i condone it, but i absolutely understand it.

    by the way, to all trolls who it might concern. ya see what me and this guy just did here? we disagreed, and we talked about it like adults. neither i or foodlespane insulted eachother’s ancestry once! it can totally be done people!!!

    “arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, whether you win or lose….you’re still a retard”

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    also read his @TheSpoonyOne…alot of people are like “Go fuck yourself” or “Your a waste of air” so yes there is alot of trolling still

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    I was talking about the comments here, not Twitter.
    Twitter has a lot of dirt, I do agree though.

  • Anonymous

    “he’s talking about old videos dude.”

    So are you people claiming that Spoony has gotten to the boiling point wherein he couldn’t tell constructive criticism from trolling? Then he has bigger problems than trolls baiting him to react.

  • Anonymous

    Nah, I believe only people with the intelligence and common sense required to accept his opinions and, even if theirs differs, still love him as quality entertainment (Y’know, the same type of people you mentioned above) have the right to call themselves fans. People who get butthurt over his opinions and pull the “fanboy” card do not know how to control their emotions in a mature manner and therefore, if it were possible, shouldn’t be allowed to post at all (Hence the bans).

    Don’t take what I say and twist it into something you can attempt to flame me over in the future, kay?

  • Anonymous

    “by the way, to all trolls who it might concern. ya see what me and this guy just did here? we disagreed, and we talked about it like adults. neither i or foodlespane insulted eachother’s ancestry once! it can totally be done people!!! ”

    While we were talking like civilized adults, I got more flags from Spoony’s sycophants. Seriously, though I’m sure Spoony appreciates your feedback, _any_ comment here that’s not praising him are automatically flagged by fanboys for review, which is such a shame and reflects badly on Spoony’s fandom as a whole.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    If you mean Twitter, then yeah, I agree.
    We’re pretty civilized in here though. Also, I don’t mind the fact that he disliked the movie – I mind the fact that this review isn’t up to his usual standart.

  • Anonymous

    It was suppose to be a sarcastic comment but maybe it came out wrong because I’m not a native English speaker.

  • Anonymous

    yeah, what ryan said. I was sort of refferring to the whole “spoony experiment” as an entity, as in including old videos, the twitter updates, etc etc. what i was saying was, that over the last year, i have seen more totally not cool uncalled for battles (mostly over nothing) on this site than pretty much all the others i frequent combined. like i said, i’m not sure if that’s because TGWTG and AVGN and those guys ban them faster or what, but it just always seems to be a problem on here.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Exactly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    I only think its actually kinda civilized on here now only because he’s banhammered everyone who’s straight up cursed him out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vadim-Chirchakov/729050430 Vadim Chirchakov

    I don’t really read the comments often, tbh, so I didn’t see this.
    But if that is the case, then man, this ain’t cool.

  • Anonymous

    well, i dunno man. if you put up with like a solid year of this crap (and all the side crap that goes with it) you’d probably have a pretty flippant attitude towards being a total asshole to someone who seemed to just show up to start fights and cause problems. now i’m not saying everyone comes here to do that, far from it, spoony has plenty of rational intelligent fans, but i can see how after dealing with as much garbage that has come before, how he could be a lot less patient with it by now and just move ahead with the “be a dick, then ban them” plan.

    look, spoony’s a big boy, he doesn’t need me making excuses for him. I’m just saying i sort of get where he’s coming from. not to mention that i still think that like 75% or more of what he says is all just part of his “asshole” act and most people just can’t seperate the character “the spoony one” from the person “Noah antweiler” ya know?

    • Anonymous

      “well, i dunno man. if you put up with like a solid year of this crap (and all the side crap that goes with it) you’d probably have a pretty flippant attitude towards being a total asshole to someone who seemed to just show up to start fights and cause problems.”

      AVGN has avoided all this by being pragmatic with the way he handles drama. NC avoided all this by admitting to his mistakes. If Spoony wants to go balls to the wall with his Tony Clifton act, then he shouldn’t be surprised seeing people flocking him. Also, I think you’re blowing this way out of proportion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    your just getting annoying foodlespane.

  • Anonymous

    yeah man, it’s been totally nuts on these comments for a long time now. I really shouldn’t even read them, i should know better haha. but it’s like a train wreck or something, you just can’t look away. and yeah i think ryan’s right, the civility is a direct result of the banning. you should totally check out some of his older video comments, it will both horrify you and make you laugh your ass off. you will see the craziest shit, man. it’s worth a look, if you need a laugh (and some reaffirment of your sanity, i mean just looking at some of the things these guys say totally makes me feel much saner hahha)

  • Anonymous

    “People who get butthurt over his opinions and pull the “fanboy” card do not know how to control their emotions in a mature manner and therefore, if it were possible, shouldn’t be allowed to post at all (Hence the bans).”

    So any criticism directed on him equals banning? You honestly support this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    also look at his Deadliest Warrior review…you’ll see alot

  • Anonymous

    “your just getting annoying foodlespane.”

    Hey, if “criticism” equals “ban” is okay to you, more power to you. The sign of a good reviewer, to me, is someone who can dish it out and take it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    No you just have to comment on every single damn little thing.

  • Anonymous

    oh god yes. that deadliest warrior one may very well be the nexus of “rude stupidity” of the whole universe. i think that one was the record breaker too. like over 2000 comments the last time i looked (and prob. still growing) and virtually all of them were part of one, excrutiatingly long f bomb laden WAR. it’s simutaneously both the funniest shit you’ve ever seen, and the saddest shit you’ve ever seen.

  • http://twitter.com/Kashadoo Kashadoo

    The A-Team is on the Throne this year. No Trons can take it’s place, magnificient comedy action flick.

  • Anonymous

    “No you just have to comment on every single damn little thing.”

    Hello, Mr. Hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    Just when I said not to twist what I say..

    Let me try and phrase this in a way you couldn’t possibly misinterpret: Criticisms are fine as long as they are constructive, not destructive. What do I see in this list of comments right now? A whole lotta whining and very little maturity. The frequency with which I see the word “fanboy” getting posted is to the point of tedium and everyone’s at odds.

    Now, trolls or people who are all “Spoony, I can’t believe you didn’t like this. You just don’t GET it, do you?” deserve the banhammer. They provide absolutely nothing but general hate and slander.

    Do I need to be even more specific than that? Did the word “Butthurt” fly over your head? It clearly indicated somebody that not only disagrees with Spoony, but also openly flames his opinions. Do you honestly think this comment board is just fine with them? Spoony’s not made out of titanium and he can’t just ignore all of it, contrary to what the research has found so far (That last part was a joke, just in case you want to call that out too).

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    lmao ive only commented on maybe 3 comments people have made. From what I’ve seen you’ve commented on every fucking thing on this page.

    So yes you have fun questioning people, im gonna go do something useful. Have fun! ^_^

    • Anonymous

      “lmao ive only commented on maybe 3 comments people have made. From what I’ve seen you’ve commented on every fucking thing on this page.”

      And yet I see you everywhere on the page. It doesn’t matter anyway, because you’re obviously not discussing something in the video. You can have the last comment if you want.

  • Anonymous

    Well, you may think i’m overgeneralizing or exxaggerating. go back and read the comments for deadliest warrior, probably you could pick one at random and find exactly what i’m talking about. def. the deadliest warrior one, that was by far the worst. I agree that he needs to expect some bullshit doing what he does, but the inverse of that is, one goes to the website of a man who’s entire career revolves around him saying rude, mean spirited, overblown, provacative jackass things and are surprised to find him being meanand saying nasty things, i’m gonna say that’s just as dumb of them isn’t it?

    like i said, he never used to really say anything at all about the trolls, it’s only after the lunacy got out of control that he took this hardball stance. and at the end of the day, it’s his site, he can do any damn thing he pleases. he doesn’t need our approval or opinions. we clicked on the video, he has our money. whether he’s acting or a genuine madman, it doesn’t really matter. he has our actual 2 cents, he really doens’t need our figurative ones.

  • Anonymous

    “Criticisms are fine as long as they are constructive, not destructive. What do I see in this list of comments right now? A whole lotta whining and very little maturity. The frequency with which I see the word “fanboy” getting posted is to the point of tedium and everyone’s at odds.”

    What’s your criteria for “whining” and “butthurt” then? Anybody that disagrees with your is “whining”? What’s the difference between criticism and whining? Also, Spoony has offered the very same types of criticism for other works; why can’t his fandom do the same? Or are you just defending Spoony because he incidentally agrees with all that you say? If he said something, and you disagreed, would you be “whining” and “butthurt” as well?

  • Anonymous

    I daresay the mere suggestion that this review wasn’t up to his usual standards will get the Spoony fanboys all over you, so watch out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Whining: To complain in a feeble or petulant way.

  • Anonymous

    remember when i said you really sound like you’re looking for a fight? yeah, that…that’s what i’m talking about right there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheREALRyanFLoyd Ryan Floyd

    Nobody cares foodlespane.

  • Anonymous

    I believe I already provided examples. As for criticism, I appreciate it when people come off as understanding and say things like “I don’t really agree. >Gimme two orders of reasons, hold the flames<. You do bring up some good points, though, even if I like some of those aspects. Still fun to watch, though.” A rather stock example, but you should get the idea.

    As for Spoony outright flaming games and movies? Sure he does. He does it to entertain others. It’s why he’s so popular right now. He speaks what’s going through his head rather than putting it all through a filter before coming out of his mouth. The people who flame Spoony? Do you think they’re trying to entertain Spoony and his comment board regulars? I think not. Some people take it way too personally, which is just silly. So he didn’t like a movie someone else did. Doesn’t mean they have to comment about how much he sucks. “Think before you post” comes to mind.

    As for me disagreeing with him, I have on occasion. In fact, if you’re willing to do a little searching, I commented on the first part of his FFX review about how that’s my favorite game in the series and yet I still found his review to be absolute comedy gold.

  • Anonymous

    “remember when i said you really sound like you’re looking for a fight? yeah, that…that’s what i’m talking about right there.”

    Hey, I’m asking an explanation because he’s not giving a satisfactory one. I also take offense that he’d narrow down “whining” as anybody that doesn’t say, “Aw, shucks, Spoony! I liked the Expendables!” when Spoony himself wouldn’t do that to the shows he criticizes.

  • Anonymous

    So you have no argument to share? Typical.

  • Anonymous

    “Whining: To complain in a feeble or petulant way.”

    Ah, so you’ve been whining to all the people who dares criticize Spoony for what they feel as a cantankerous take on the Expendables, huh? Good to know.

  • Anonymous

    “Well, you may think i’m overgeneralizing or exxaggerating. go back and read the comments for deadliest warrior, probably you could pick one at random and find exactly what i’m talking about. def.”

    There was more Deadliest Warrior patting on Spoony’s back than actual criticism, especially the second part.

    If Spoony wants to delete my comments, fine. It’s his site. Let it just be known that he’ll be alienating part of his fanbase by deleting comments for merely being negative, as though he only wants positive feedback all the time. It has unfortunate implications, methinks.

  • Anonymous

    “As for Spoony outright flaming games and movies? Sure he does. He does it to entertain others. It’s why he’s so popular right now. He speaks what’s going through his head rather than putting it all through a filter before coming out of his mouth.”

    You’re kidding me, right? So you’re basically saying that anything more than “Aw, shucks, Spoony! Expendables is awesome! Even though you made several logical leaps with your opinion, I won’t say anything about them because I’m a peon of yours!” is a flame?

    ….

    Well, did you hear that guys? You don’t have any right to say anything bad about Spoony ever again by SubTonic’s arguments, because if you do, you’ll get banned. Riiight, that will go off well. Good luck with that. I’ll say that’s hypocritical, but then you’d say I’d be “flaming” you, but then again, since you’re acting as Spoony’s censor, then I’ll just happily await the ban hammer.

    SMH, dude. SMH.

  • Anonymous

    “You’re kidding me, right? So you’re basically saying that anything more than “Aw, shucks, Spoony! Expendables is awesome! Even though you made several logical leaps with your opinion, I won’t say anything about them because I’m a peon of yours!” is a flame?”

    Let me respond to that in a similar fashion in which you responded to someone earlier:

    I just conducted a thorough analysis of what I’ve been posting during this entire conversation, and found a total of zero instances where I said such a thing. I think we’re through here, seeing as every single one of your “rebuttals” begins with a severe misinterpretation of what I actually said. Have a nice day.

  • Anonymous

    that is absolutely not what he said. i think you’re not really listening to anyone anymore. reread what he said, it does not match what you seem to think he said. and to answer your post to me, yes he totally did answer your questions. he totally did provide sensible arguments. I think you have given up on discussing and just moved on to disagreeing for the sake of it. i mean really, many of your posts could be summed up with “nuh uh…you’re wrong. (insert opposite of what previous person said)” it’s getting a little rediculous dude.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/Z6X2E7TZRANNVKCTNNQB5FR72E Ryan

    I really Don’t think Expendables is gonna be affected by any critic… period. It did surprisingly well at the Box-Office. Theatre I saw it in was packed.

    I’ll be honest. I was a bit “meh” on the movie. Didn’t hate it though. I had fun watching it, I got some of the more positive points and some of Spoony’s negatives. But largely I was ‘meh’, I knew it was a big dumb action movie and what not,, it was still decent enough to watch, at least once. I’d probably go see it during the day though, save money. Or, if you want the poor man’s version, find a Christopher Walken movie “Dogs of War”. Seriously, it’s almost the same movie but with some stuff that kinda makes Expendables a little bit more clever, and at sometimes it’s more clever than it.

    I was strange, from the second I saw the trailer… it reminded me of “Dogs of War”. Except this one has more action. Shakey cam got annoying though, disorienting, I can see why a person with a headache wouldn’t enjoy it. So maybe Spoony’s being unfair in that regard.

    But, his opinion, maybe he could express it with a little, or a lot, less anger at folks, but shit happens. Hopefully he learns to calm down, keep it in check, can’t be healthy. In any case, if he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t like it. No need to get angry at him, just state you don’t agree.

    I didn’t hate the movie, but it wasn’t the best film out there. I’ve seen better, but again I’ve seen way worse. It was okay. So I don’t really think it was THAT bad, but I can see why people wouldn’t enjoy it. Got miffed at the CGI Steve Austin death, couldn’t even burn him alive in a full body suit. Kinda cheap. So in short, not totally agreeing with Noah, but I can see where’s he coming from and honestly I think he needs to see the movie again without a headache.

    Oh well, hopefully when the next actual review comes out all of this will blow over and Spoony will both calm down and learn from this that he needs to keep his emotions in check at times.

  • http://twitter.com/starwolf333 Cody Ward

    Kind of a disappointment really. With a cast like Mickey Rork, Stallone, Statham, Jet Li, et. al., you really DO expect a lot more. But, so it goes.

    I am kind of curious to hear your opinion on the Tekken movie that’s supposedly in post-production… I heard you like Tekken (mainly because of the Deadliest Warrior beatdown) and what I have seen of the clips, trailers, pictures, etc. just make me cringe inside. I mean, Tekken was my first REALLY fun fighting game experience. Mainly because my mother didn’t let me get into gaming until well after the Street Fighter craze ran its course for the first time (seeing as she was one of those good parents that got suckered into believing Mazes and Monsters’ style fearmongering) and the movie’s trailers and stuff just made me die a little inside.

    I mean for fuck’s sake! Kazuya doesn’t use axes, Jin isn’t romantically involved with Christie! -_- /ends rant

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LDLYJR4ONULF4QW4BSDTLGD6L4 Doc Noel

    interesting how u replied to my post as if i flagged yours…cause i didnt ;) .

  • http://thedrakkongrimoire.blogspot.com/ NDrakkon

    That’s very funny young man. But really, I don’t care what some random kid who has not gone through puberty yet says about me.

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    Okay, you seem to get offensive when someone refutes your arguments VERRRRRRY quickly, so I still feel justified in calling you a troll.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    Obviously attempting to get people to flame, troll.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tyler.r.gingras Tyler Robert F. Gingras

    See, having watched this review, the 2 other filmed reviews(Joe and the Snob) and the written review by James, I gotta say, I am going into this movie with a good idea of what to expect.
    Now, in fairness, I havn’t seen it yet, but i had a comment.

    In fairness, we come here to listen to Spoony’s opinion, but to say guys like Joe or Snob are wrong because they enjoyed the film? Or some of your fans, for that matter? Let us have our opinions( which is what this comment section is for isn’t it?) or frankly, just disable the whole comment section idea and leave it for your fourms.

    Although, I do have to question, you claimed on twitter that the new Nightmare on Elm Street movie was good…? I hate to turn around and judge you for your opinion, but I don’t recall you ever saying anything of the sort. If you did, and I just missed it, my bad. But I would acctually really like to see said review to see how you defend the movie. I hated that damn movie and everything it represented.

  • Anonymous

    “I just conducted a thorough analysis of what I’ve been posting during this entire conversation, and found a total of zero instances where I said such a thing. I think we’re through here, seeing as every single one of your “rebuttals” begins with a severe misinterpretation of what I actually said. Have a nice day.”

    It’s nice to see that you can only respond in a way that somehow plagiarizes other people’s arguments.

    “The people who flame Spoony? Do you think they’re trying to entertain Spoony and his comment board regulars? I think not.”

    This is what you said. The problem with your arguments is that they’re very subjective. Oh, and you’ve consistently failed in being able to even properly _convey_ your arguments. Unless you understand what subjectivity is, then there’s no way I or anyone else will be able to get through to you.

  • http://twitter.com/Suomidude Niko Penttilae

    “Go fuck yourself” and “Your a waste of air” are prime examples of flaming, while pretty much every post of foodlespane’s is a troll attempt.

  • Anonymous

    “Okay, you seem to get offensive when someone refutes your arguments VERRRRRRY quickly, so I still feel justified in calling you a troll.”

    “Refutes” huh? Then again, with all the flagging and like spamming you’ve been doing, I’d say you don’t even have the capability of having decent debate without referring to others backing you up… the very essence of a fanboy, I daresay.

  • Anonymous

    Give it a rest. You’re bringing semantics in now, and any intelligent person knows that an argument of semantics is one that neither party could ever win. Move on. I can’t possibly be bugging someone as mature and level-headed as you are. -Shrugs-

  • Anonymous

    “Give it a rest. You’re bringing semantics in now, and any intelligent person knows that an argument of semantics is one that neither party could ever win.”

    All I’m saying is that you’re wrong and you’ve been erroneously representing your argument in ways that blur subjectivity.

    • Anonymous

      Kay. Seriously, whatever shuts you up. You’re right. I’m wrong. You are indeed the Great Will. Blah, blah, blah. Are we done now? I’m getting kind of tired of keeping track of this page (Not that I have to, but I’m not the type of person to just sit around and ignore everything).

  • Anonymous

    “Obviously attempting to get people to flame, troll.”

    For a fanboy, any criticism against Spoony or fellow Spoony fanboys = trolling

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    Except for the fact I haven’t been doing any flagging on this site…yeah, you got me alllllllllll figgered out.

  • Anonymous

    You’re a prime example of “When all else fails, be condescending to the person you’re talking to.”

  • Anonymous

    “Except for the fact I haven’t been doing any flagging on this site…yeah, you got me alllllllllll figgered out.”

    Oh, you haven’t? Then my apologies. You were just acting like a sycophant, chiming in here and there, instead of flagging.

  • Anonymous

    How else am I supposed to respond? No matter what I say, you will just twist whatever it is I typed out and continue your tirade of neverending flames that I just don’t see the point of. I’m astonished that somebody such as you, who obviously has some sort of superiority complex, finds their preferred activity in complaining to somebody on a comment board. This is borderline YouTube spamming, for Christ’s sake. I just want this to end, but you keep enticing me to respond. You know, they have a name for someone like that.

  • Anonymous

    So much hating going on in the comments. Seriously, to me, the previews of this movie shouted “This movie sucks, but come watch it anyway cuz it’s got big name actors!!!” Really it just looks like they’re trying to cash in on any fan base these action stars have or used to have. I’ve not seen the movie, and I probably won’t; I need substance in movies, not just “ooooh pretty ‘splosion”. Please, flame away at me if you like, I really couldn’t care less about what some faceless jagoff sitting behind his monitor says about me.

  • http://vezon.livejournal.com/ The goddamn Master

    I’m sorely tempted to ask just what Spoony’s done to your family that’s earned such animus on his own goddamn site, but that would be giving you what you want, and, for once in my life, I’ve had enough of that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000708281837 Jordan Reuter

    If you, or anyone else care to read it, I may be able to break it down with my nerd insights. It could all be bullshit, so you know.

    When people get down on SPvtW, the people who are “up” respond “Dude, it’s celebratory of nerd culture. How can you not like it for that?” The response, said or implied, tends to be “Yeah, to the point of masturbation. I don’t need movies to like stuff for me, especially when it’s that sickeningly indulgent.”

    Geekery is kind of hard to laud anyway, with it giving you juvenile space marine power fantasies on the one hand and pathetic swords n’ sorcery escapism on the other. To even bring that into the mainstream would suggest a kind of legitimacy, which its “true” adherents have properly never attributed to it. Hand in hand with nerd appreciation is the requisite, silent shame, kind of like how Americans aren’t allowed to be patriotic ’cause, you know, that country sucks.

    But, to further my simile, there is one way you could celebrate America and not get any flak for it. Irony. Pounds and pounds of it. Same goes for nerd culture. And what could be more hipster than an overdeveloped sense of irony?

    I admit that bit of speculation may have been…wild. I might have to go lie down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000708281837 Jordan Reuter

    A key trait of being a hipster is vehemently hating the term and denying membership to it. If you deny being a hipster, then it’s pretty obvious you are one. Like communism.

  • Anonymous

    Assuming this isn’t the only time people’s opinions may contradict with spoony’s, I just don’t see how this specific incident turned out to be an opportunity to form a lynch squad to get him.

  • Anonymous

    Opinions shouldn’t be judged as “wrong”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAHJQLWDK2FA2HUMUXGP2RQ7B4 Alexander Alexander

    If he said he had a migraine I would. Migraines are incredibly severe, some people can barely move during an episode. For goodness sake, the defining characteristics are hypersensitivity to sound and light, keep aspects of action movies.

  • http://twitter.com/starwolf333 Cody Ward

    I wholeheartedly concur my good man. Between some of this and what I’ve seen in the Deadliest Warrior the Game thing, I honestly don’t know HOW Spoony can keep his sanity. …Or at least what little sanity Insano has yet to claim.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    Two reasons: Spoony called it worse than Strike Commando, and he complained about stuff that he clearly didn’t get from the movie. I can respect a person not liking a movie when they get what’s going on, which is why I understand all the hate on Boondock Saints in spite of how much I myself enjoyed it, but see, Spoony hate here didn’t really make sense. I recommend watching Angry Joe’s review of the movie as he points out some of the idiocies behind the hate.

    Oh yeah, and Spoony does matter. I know people who’ve avoided or gone for stuff based on his reviews. So him making this bizzarely inaccurate review and predicting people who praised it would hate it really makes him look like a bit of a moron, or one of those elitist film snobs that bash movies for being homages to the genres of yesteryears. I’m not about to call him something worse than ‘a bit of a moron’ because he did still make a couple of valid points. I do still like the idea of them just calling each other by their real names, that would of been hilarious. I also feel confident in the mild insult because I rarely pick up on subtext and I still completely understood the movie’s point plot-wise.

  • Anonymous

    I did not see Strike Commando so I cannot argue with that but I still don’t see why people can’t accept others’ opinions as they are and go on with their own business or just make a counter-review instead of calling names.

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    This is really one of those movies that seems to really be polarizing people. I don’t see people thinking this movie is mediocre, I mainly see people either hating it or loving it. I haven’t seen it myself, I want to, and even more-so now just because the critiques are polarizing.

    There are some movies that I feel you go see for intellectual stimulation or to maybe help you open your mind more… Like Inception. I greatly appreciate seeing these types of movies. At the same time, a movie like “The Expendables” seems to be just good fun with a simple plot. Maybe Spoony was expecting too much, something different, maybe he didn’t have the right mindset… Maybe he forgot that much like 2012, you can still have fun watching a bad movie (I’d disagree on 2012 personally. I had fun for about the first 20 minutes then got very frustrated watching that movie completely fall apart. I never watched the last half hour of that movie and don’t care to do so).

    Whatever the case, I still value that he looked deep within this movie and provided points on why he didn’t like it. I don’t see any drop in quality from his earlier Vlog reviews, personally. Does he even strive for a certain quality when doing these, anyway? It’s just him in front of a camera giving his points for not liking a movie. You either agree or you don’t, no need to get a heart attack over it, just express your own agreement or disagreement. It’s a shame how people in these comment sections are REALLY jumping down each other’s throats. Name calling and false accusations only makes everyone lose in the end anyway. If someone starts to get that way, just ignore them, your pride doesn’t mean shit to anyone else, no need to feel like you have to defend yourself. The only person who feels like he’s won is the guy who was getting a rise out of you anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Hahahaha. This is hilarious. Spoony’s whining now? I PUT HIM IN DE CAMEL CLUTCH AND MAKE HIM HHAMBUL AND FAKK HIS ASS. If pretending to be a wrestling heel is whining, then something is wrong with you folks.

    Someone is wrong on the internet! SPOONY IS RUINED FOREVER BECAUSE HE DISLIKED SOMETHING YOU LIKED AHHHH

    Relax, folks. Please, for the love of christ. This is just getting silly now.

    Remember Spoony’s appeal for manners from long ago. This site has a bad rep – let’s not make it worse with more hate speech and controversial BS.

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    It’s bad regardless of what site you go to with a large enough community and Spoony’s is no exception. People get too involved and feel the need to keep going over something so trivial. It’s why I don’t get very involved with large community bases, nor do I really care to get into long arguments with people online.

    It doesn’t matter what you say, 99% of the time you will not get someone to change their mind through the internet depending on how strongly they feel about the subject. I’ve stopped caring personally long ago and I feel I’m a better person because of it.

  • http://twitter.com/shadowbird712 Jeremy K.

    That, and written text knows no sarcasm.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a glitch in logic that most of us – as in humans – seem to have. We internalize our own viewpoints to the point where attacking something we like feels like an attack against us. :/

    Even sensible folks get hit with it now and again. It can be hard to remain detached from your own viewpoint.

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    I would agree with that, it still happens to me at time I admit. I feel I am more aware when that happens than most, though. Or maybe because I actually care when it does. You make A LOT less enemies if you try your best not to take things as trivial as this so personally.

    Of course I wouldn’t expect everyone to do this, but hey, it never hurts to discuss it. :)

  • Il Principe

    I don’t mind that Spoony doesn’t like the movie, that’s called taste. I did find it interesting though that Brad loved it and from what he said I guess I might like it as well since we seem to have a somewhat similar taste in movies. And I adore the 80s action flicks, I have a collection of Schwarzenegger, Seagal and Lundgren movies from that era.
    From what Spoony said in his review, I guess he either expected a different movie or wanted to see a different movie (with more Mickey Rourke in it).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LLIYK2XZTRVZHWAGU5KAXUAXAA Dwight Henry

    Spoony has turned into a critic who hates everything. I don’t even go by what he says anymore. Everybody I have talked to says they liked the movie. Everybody knows it wasn’t gonna be some work of art but just plane old fun. Seriously, Spoony you need to lighten up and maybe try writing out your review before hand because you just give me a head ach with all of your repeating and sensless ranting. You should go out and get laid more or go to a f*cking amusment park. You need some serious fun in your life by the looks of you. Take some wellbutrin.

  • Anonymous

    Ahlalala, to be honest, even with your review, i WILL watch this movie.

    For those who like movies that aren’t made for intelligent peoples, i think they’ll will have a boner only because they NOW that we’ll have Statham, Stallone, some Jet lee fights and all awesome things in the movie. I think you should see this movie as a crossover, an action crossover where everyone only want to see those actors they like perform the moves they are used to in action exploitation ^^.

    I don’t know much yet, but for the only goods of ‘crossovers’, i think, for those who grew with that kind of movies, that we must all go and see it ;) ! Sorry Spoony, but it is not that kind of movie which your opinion can really have a big influence on us, because we will always have a nonsense attraction to these kinds of movies ^^ !

    I’m not sure i’m clear :P !

    For now, Spoony, just rest : we need you to do a lot of extraordinary reviews ;) !

  • http://twitter.com/LadyKaguraX Natalie Norment

    Well, I haven’t seen the Expendables yet. But, to be honest, I have mixed feelings about it. I might still go see it for my own reasons because of that. Anyway, I think you did a good job reviewing the movie. You’re only human and you have your own likes and dislikes. No one can take that from you.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t go into it expecting anything BUT a cheesy 80s style action movie and you’ll like it just fine. I think Spoony heavily over analyzed this.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with every complaint here, maybe other then it being poorly filmed

    “that might honestly have to do with the migrane you had”

    I could follow at least most of the action scenes, though the car chase with sly and dolph felt really all over the place,
    I did think they kept crashing, but was surprised to see the chase still going.

    Expendables was cool, I’d easily see it again, but given the choice to watch one out of two movies for the night, and that choice being to watch The Expendables, or Cobra, I’ll take Cobra, and leave Expendables on the shelf.

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    A cash in? What the hell. Stallone wrote and directed this movie. Its like his baby. This is not some studio that said “Hey lets have STALLONE write and direct a movie for a quick buck” bullshit. If it really was a cash in it wouldnt have been this violent. They’d go for a PG-13 or something. Thats just one point of many. Stallone made this movie because they wanted to make an cheesy 80′s style movie. He wasnt going for a new Citizen Kane. Jesus.. -.-
    But its okay if you dont care about such a thing. Thats fine. I on the other hand LOVED the Expendables it was everything I expected.

  • Anonymous

    “I’m sorely tempted to ask just what Spoony’s done to your family that’s earned such animus on his own goddamn site, but that would be giving you what you want, and, for once in my life, I’ve had enough of that.”

    Criticizing Spoony’s review and taking note that other reviewers took a different stance = Out for revenge for murder?

    LOLwut?

    If I’m acting condescending, it’s tit-for-tat from the fanboys. Spoony himself, I have no problem.

  • Anonymous

    “Obviously attempting to get people to flame, troll.”

    Wow. Claiming a person that doesn’t share your opinion as a troll. I haven’t seen that before.

  • Anonymous

    this movie is bad; cliche story, predictable progression, plot holes and really glaring jumps in logic and sense. I would give this movie 3 stars, maybe 2…and I still loved it. It was every bit as cheesy and stupid as I hoped it would be. Maybe if they pulled back the camera during some scenes but other than that I loved it, so cheesy, like bathing in a nacho hot tub.
    Also, DAMN does Arnold look doughy and his face kinda reminds me of negative-zone Ramsey from Hell’s Kitchen the game while Sly, fucking amazing a man that age. Human growth hormones really agreed with him

  • Anonymous

    You’re right, Spoony- Scott Pilgrim IS better. And more people need to see it, because it’s getting massacred at the box office. So if there’s anyone reading this comment who hasn’t seen Scott Pilgrim yet, GO! GO SEE IT NOW! Support quality cinema!

  • Anonymous

    It’s not that people are getting upset that Spoony hates this film, it’s that Spoony had another Twitter meltdown because other people don’t share his opinion. God only knows what it was like on the forums.

    Fine, Spoony hated The Expendables. Other people liked it. So fucking what? It wasn’t the best film of the year, not even the best film of its own premiere weekend (that’s Scott Pilgrim) but I dug the fuck out of it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    I steer clear of Twitter. Never saw the point in it. Again, it’s just all exacerbating a very trivial matter. You’re right… so fucking what? He gave his opinion. I happen to like watching his opinion regardless of whether I agree with it or not. If I feel he’s getting too whiny or I feel his points suck, I just stop watching it. If his site is going to hell (hypothetically speaking), I just stop visiting. Not hard. People like to make matters worse than they really are. Whether you want to express your opinion or not, at least just think before you speak. You’ll be better off in the long run.

    “God only knows what it was like on the forums.”

    …further reason why I never get involved there anymore, either. I hate half the people there so it’s not worth my time.

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    Completely off topic, but I just gave Spoony’s twitter a quick read since I haven’t before and saw this…

    “Texas also leads the nation in the most organized hate groups.”

    I could have sworn that was Pennsylvania. Maybe I’m only thinking of KKK establishments. I’ll have to look that up now.

  • Anonymous

    Not necessarily, it can still hold that appeal.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not trying to troll, but at the same time, I’m not gonna bother explaining. Other people have already explained, read those comments elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    It pretty much is, yeah,

  • Anonymous

    They’ve explained what the word means and how it DOESN’T apply to the movie. You still claim that it somehow does but won’t explain the connection.

  • http://twitter.com/MattMk2 Matthew S

    Curse you shaky cam!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rjbates Robert Jeffery M Bates

    You should have went to see Scott Pilgrim

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=612755462 Steve Madden

    i think spoony is obligated to do a review on scott pilgrim, or at least the game (dont know if its on xbox tho)… i mean come on man, i dont even wanna waste my time with the expendables, the movie was gonna suck the second it was thought up. at least with scott pilgrim the story is good, the effects were great and the acting was believable for the movie, not to mention the game, for $10 is worth more than 1000 copys of “the deadliest warrior”

  • Anonymous

    I was really hoping that Arnold comes out of nowhere to save the Expendables, in a chopper. And he’d be like, “Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get to da choppa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Then they’ll blow the whole city up with a some missiles.

  • Anonymous

    Not talking about the comments here, but literally anywhere else where they discuss movies. Not hard to figure out.

  • Anonymous

    C’mon guys, who really went into this movie expecting a masterpiece? It never claimed to be anything other than a pure action movie, and if you knew that going in, you would have enjoyed it like I did. The story was a mere vehicle to fuel to action scenes, but I wasn’t expecting a great story. Also, Scott Pilgrim? Really?

  • http://www.youtube.com/deathwing107 deathwing107

    Wow really, one of my comments got removed? And I wasn’t even the least bit insulting. So fine… fuck whoever decided to delete it. I’m not even going to bother to comment in these sections anymore. People can be really fucking childish sometimes. Grow the fuck up.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Spoony on this one. My friends and I did venture out to watch this movie, if anything the action was decent. I think one of my favorite scenes was with Bruce Willis and Sylvester Stallone, because Stallone just tries to out bad-ass Willis and fails.
    Saddest scene of the movie is when the gun gets crushed (RIP awesome gun.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/oscar.g83 Oscar G Garcia

    It’s just an action movie, Spoony. Not a “supercomplex-drama-thriller-action-whatever-the-fuck.” Just like Rambo.

  • Anonymous

    No excuse for a movie to suck.

  • Anonymous

    I think that AngryJoe’s and Spoony’s reviews were so different because AngryJoe based his review on how movie could have failed but didn’t (and vice versa with Spoony).

  • Anonymous

    The whole “well it’s not supposed to be a masterpiece” argument is asinine. Every movie should aspire to be, at the very least, GOOD. Which is what Scott Pilgrim actually is, since it was made by a competent director that knows how to execute an intriguing story with meaningful characters and believable performances.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=629096586 Daoud Barbour

    True, but Jet’s power and technique is insane, especially back when he was doing movies in ’91. I’m not trying to be a Jet Li fan boy though, I’ve been a fan of Dolph Lungdren since the The Punisher. Yes, I HAPPILY own the dvd.

  • Anonymous

    If it’s such a simple concept, take five seconds to explain your argument instead of making yourself look like an ass.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Spoony on this one. When I went to see this movie, I wasn’t expecting any Oscar winning performances, I was in it for the classic cheesy 80s action movie cliches. I wanted to see bad acting, and senseless violence. I felt like I was rewarded in that department. I’m not sure if it was the bad hamburgers I had earlier or not, but I agree with you that the camera work was very disorienting. During those action scenes, I was closing my eyes for fear of vomiting and embarrassing myself in front of my friends and in front of the movie theater. Even after the movie was over, I’m pretty sure I had a touch of Vertigo. So, once again, I agree with Spoony, this movie was bush league at best. Nothing special, just senseless violence.

  • http://www.thevwf.net Triple B

    I suppose if you look at this movie in the context of “I’m going to go see a cheesy action flick that will have no ‘real’ story” then you came out happy. If you went in expecting that you were going to see some high functioning movie, then you probably weren’t. I also think if you came in expecting a “Rambo” or “Terminator” movie, you were going to be disappointed.

    Personally, I went in thinking I was going to see a bunch of 80s and 90s action stars on the same screen and blow some shit up. I wasn’t let down. I enjoyed the movie, my buddies all enjoyed the movie. We got what we expected, although I liked A-Team better (but I have mad love for the A-Team). Terry Crewes I knew was gonna say some funny stuff in a bit part, and he did. I thought Austin played a bit villian well, like I expected. I thought everyone played their “type” well.

    Where I WILL disagree with the review, is that some of the characters DID have some storyline. Stathman’s character was given a girl on the side as a “C” level backstory. Rorke (who they DID establish as the guy who coordinates them getting work, not just a tatoo artist) was great in that it explained what he did and why he was motivated. Dolph’s character was obviously “acting” like a junky to throw off the spooks who they were going after (although they didn’t explain why he was doing that BEFORE they heard about the job). Randy I thought had some small development as they estasblished that he was trying to be more “zen like” and was a quirky man as he saw a therapist and was well read. Li is very vague in that he says he wants money for a family he admits he doesn’t have, so… why does he need money? They don’t talk about it. Stallone was the least developed, in that they don’t really give him any sort of a story other than he wants to save a girl that he won’t get to bang.

    I was able to keep up with the editting, although it did have moments where it was not very good. The action scenes, especially the last one, were really good as well.

    This is where I see Spoony’s point of view though, that he should have mentioned…

    When you look at it from a stand alone action movie, it was exactly what you wanted going in. But when you compare it to anything else that we loved as kids, it pales a bit. Additionally…. the arguement of “you have to shut your mind off” isn’t valid. You pay the same $10 to see this as you would see Inception or Scott Pilgrim or Toy Story or any movie at a theater. Just because he expected more for his money, doesn’t mean he’s wrong.

    He’s right, the editing wasn’t that good. He’s right, it was loud. He’s right, there wasn’t a whole lot of plot. He’s right that a group that is motivated by money seems to be happy to die on some island for no money makes no sense. He’s right that killing a South American island should be more weighty. The only difference is, is that he wanted more, and was disappointed at the holes. I was just happy to see a shitload of people blown away by a AA-12 and Stallone to have some good banter with Arnold and Willis. I probably didn’t get what I paid for in a Pilgrim, of which I think was a superior movie all in all. But I was able to go back to just being a stupid kid watching things blow up again. And I was fine with that.

  • Anonymous

    Citizen Kane? Spoony didn’t suggest that in the slightest. No, you don’t compare movies like this to Citizen Kane, and no one goes into these movies expecting Citizen Kane (the mere fact that you entertain this idea is hilarious). You compare it to action movies that are actually good movies, (and not just cheesy bullshit) like Die Hard. Die Hard was a balls-to-wall action movie, and it had a GREAT story, and the acting was AWESOME. So what’s this movie’s excuse?

  • Anonymous

    I will not see the Expendables. I will not see Scott Pilgrim. I shall see Rifftrax Live do Reefer Madness! Spoony should do the same, it’ll put him in a better mood.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nhan-Nguyen/100000056138996 Nhan Nguyen

    I saw the Expendables today and I got what I wanted. A mindless action movie that has left me satisfied. It’s been quite some time the last time I saw an action movie on the big screen that left me in awe, the Expendables did a great job doing that. If Spoony didn’t like doesn’t mean you shouldn’t like it, you should just watch this movie for yourself and then say what you think.

  • Anonymous

    Aaah, the shaky cam. The last time I saw you while watching Aliens vs. Predator 2: The Requiem. I hated you back then and -although I haven’t seen The Expendables yet- will probably hate you again when I do see it. :D

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3UK3UPHGE446ELL4E3SWMODDI Sam

    (I have not seen this movie yet.)
    This sounds like a case of Space Cowboys..
    Clint Eastwood!
    Tommy Lee Jones!
    Donald Sutherland!
    James Garner!
    …IN SPACE!
    You think right away, with all those big names, ‘this is going to be like..super awesome’. It’s Dirty Harry in space! No…they are just wise-cracking astronauts..lame..

    This movie sounds kinda cool, but you are holding the Main Star names too high. Yes, if they had embraced the rule of gore for awesome, this movie might have been something else.

    JAAA~KOOO~DAAA~~!!

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    I was replying to cuthalion04. He said he always wants depth and development in his movies. Thats why I mentioned Citizen Kane. -.- I wasn’t posting this comment towards spoony.
    You guys are all expecting too much as if it was going to be the next Citizen kane. With that I mean a movie as good as. not the same genre.
    And yes Die Hard was awesome. But the expendables went for cheesy action. If you don’t like it thats fine. This is not your movie. I did like it. And so did many other people. You can say its a bad movie but people will still like it.

    PS:No offense but did you acatually see it or are you just going with Spoonys thoughts? No offense.

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    “On an aside, I really feel sorry for you Spoony. Leave it to trolls to take what might have turned into an intelligent conversation into endless flaming. Just keep the ban-hammer polished and continue to smite bitches”

    WHAT?! Seeing you edited your post after my reply to you. So you want him to ban people who have a different opinion like myself? HA! Hillarious. basicly you want him to ban people that liked a movie he hated. (unless they are outright insulting spoony for it. then i’d understand. Havent read all the comments)

  • Anonymous

    Agreed, especially since stuff like the rebooted Batman series, District 9, and Inception has shown that the plotless action bollocks of the 80s no longer has a place.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    While I agree with some if the comments that The Expendables is by no means a great movie (An 8.0 average on IMDB, really?), I’d take it over the pretentious hipster-fest that is Scot Pilgrim any day of the week.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.misner Eric Misner

    SURPRIZE! anouther pointless Vlog

  • Anonymous

    Aw bless your heart for still bravely using terms like “hipster”.

  • Anonymous

    Stop liking bad movies.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he meant “most organized” in the sense that they are the most efficient and take the best minutes at the meetings.

  • Anonymous

    You WOULD read him saying “ban the trolls” as “ban people with different opinions” because “WAH WAH DIFFERENT OPINION” is the absolute first defense every shameless troll sticks their mouth onto before sucking it with all their might.

    *yawn* Pissant amateur.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re like 12, you look silly referencing Citizen Kane as if you know what it is.

  • Anonymous

    It’s as if Spoony… *adjusts glasses* reviews movies or something. *DUN-UN!!!!!*

  • MissAshley

    Why is it every person who uses the term “hipster” seems infinitely more pretentious than anyone branded as such by that person?

  • MissAshley

    I’m curious. . .Were there many “camera winking” moments in the film? For me expecting a glorification of 80′s action films involves a certain degree of self-awareness. “Playing it straight” for something like this wouldn’t sit well with me.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get what you’re saying. It’s an other-izing term that allows you to claim intellectual superiority over others by making them out to be mindless, trend-follow– Oh my Gawd, you’re completely correct.

  • MissAshley

    Sounds like Spoony wanted the film to pick a tone and stick with it, for it to either make firmer impacts outside the action or have more competent action with a heap of camp. Either way, “sweat and bullet” action isn’t my bag, so I’ll probably never see this.

  • MissAshley

    “i have NEVER seen this many heated, uncalled for, “fuck your mother” kind of arguments on anyone’s site (outside of youtube anyway) and they just keep coming. I dunno, maybe TGWTG is just faster and less forgiving about banning or something, but i really don’t see this kind of stuff on there or the AVGN or anything. spoony actually said once that his friends at TGWTG really don’t want him posting links to their work on his page because his fans are so out of control and so unable to be civil and even more so, take a joke.”

    I totally believe this. Spoony’s character and personality can attract much less civil folk than many other That Guy contributors. Certain types of people see his wild, tactless, and very convincing rage and think “Fuck yeah! This is my kind a guy!” without realizing Spoony, while likely an exaggeration of Noah, is a character and an entertainer.

    Unfortunately, it’s not something that can really be helped.

  • Anonymous

    You missed the point of this movie. Its and ode to 80′s style action movies. It set out to be something, and that’s exactly what it ended up being. This movie wasn’t about the story, it was about the action. If you were disappointed by this movie, it’s because you went in expecting The Departed, when you should have expected Tango and Cash. Also, I don’t see how the argument is asinine, when it wasn’t an argument. It was a question. Seriously. Who went into this movie expecting a deep engaging story line? Because THAT is what’s asinine my friend. Anyways, you guys have fun hating a perfectly good action flick, that if it had came out in the 80′s would probably be considered a classic.

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    I got the feeling that cuthalion04 meant with his editin his post that I am the troll. So I assumed that he actually thought that i was trolling.
    “pissant amateur”-.-; Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Stop acting like your opinion matters.

  • http://twitter.com/JSN117 John

    Nice to see how offensive you are. I’d almost get the feeling that I’m in a chatroom here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z3455ZNXKQ45R3RDANSUCHIKJ4 Enes

    Everyone here needs to see Scott Pilgrim. This awesome movie is getting buried by The Expendables and that Julia Roberts flick. Nerds everywhere need to unite and correct this injustice!

  • http://twitter.com/Eyesonflux Carl Emil

    I’m with spoony on this one , movie wasn’t very good even though i love 80′s action flics everyone would agree that this movie is bad if there would not be stallone statham li starring in this movie.

    Yes i saw it when it came out and not many people walked out with a smiley face when they came out of the theater.

  • Anonymous

    Very thoughtful review, Spoony. Hope you feel better; I get migraines every now and again, so I feel your pain.

    Still, I think I may take a gamble and go see this anyway. Big, dumb action movies are a serious guilty pleasure of mine, and it’s been so long since Hollywood really made one, I want to vote with my money and tell them I want more of them. Here’s hoping it doesn’t suck too hard!

  • Anonymous

    I just wanted to post to say thankyou for saying this. It’s absolutely damn true and I’m actually surprised that Spoony has as much tolerance as he does (for fuck’s sake he has people insulting his friends and family… how do people EXPECT him to take it?). I mean the legendary trolling and fan spitfire that originates from this site is pretty damn… well, legendary (I’m not going to say ‘epic’ because senseless squabbling spewing out from trolling idiots doesn’t deserve even that internet meme).

    I have a growing suspicion that the trolling and flame wars may be spilling out from the darker sub-basements of the internet, and the denizens of, shall we say, 4chan *shudders in horror* are clawing their way out of hell and into the limelight. Or there may even be some sliders drifting out from under their blog pages on myspace. I don’t know, but I swear that something evil is creeping up from somewhere.

    Or I could just be ridiculously paranoid. Well, we shall see (insert ominous orchestra sting here).

    Just thanks for saying what should be said and what everyone should keep in mind.

  • Anonymous

    I pretty much agree with you Spoony. I’m a giant fan of the 80s-action flicks, and I knew that this was trying to be like those. But frankly, those 80s flicks do it all better. I did enjoy my time watching the movie though, it was a really fun audience and the movie was fun at the time. I just think it won’t have much of a lasting value for me. My biggest problems with the film are the two points that you made: 1) The inconsistent tone of the movie, and 2) The fucking close-up-shaky-cam in the action scenes! Seriously I hate watching action scenes when I can’t tell what the hell is going on, totally ruins it for me. Now that isn’t to say that all of the action scenes we’re like this, but there was enough of it to be annoying and to effect my experience.

    Also, the first 1/3rd of the movie (after the first action scene) was pretty boring I have to admit, at least until they got the ball rolling.

  • Anonymous

    So you’re basically saying that it is just like AVATAR.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    I know it’s a word thrown around, usually by people who have no idea what it means, but believe me I post on a forum that’s full of typical indie rock loving hipsters and I’ve been using the term long before it got popular, so I’m not just tossing the word around without reason. I have experience with hipsters and I know what I’m talking about. And to me it’s the lamest sub-culture surpassing even Marilyn Manson loving pseudo-goths and the whole nu-emo thing

  • Anonymous

    no, thank you for being smart enough to understand that too. people act like spoony is just waking up in the morning, and flipping coins about who he’s gonna start a flame war with and ban today. people act like this isn’t…ya know…a SHOW. you’re probably right…4chan’s evil sausagy fingers are probably all over this hahaha

  • http://www.facebook.com/santtu.poikonen Santtu Poikonen

    I find it funny that I agree with almost everything you’re saying, but I still enjoyed the movie alot :P

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    First up, this is a social thing. We live in a society where misinformation doesn’t stop people from forming opinions and a lot of people become sheep to certain people who’s opinions they respect. Thus when a person makes a statement about something that doesn’t seem to do what is being talked about justice, people get mad. Even worse is when someone hates on something because they didn’t get it when it is easily possible to get it, as many others have demonstrated in this case.

    And the Strike Commando claim was an giant insult. People who go to this site like this movie and saying that C-movie hilariously bad shlock is better than a solid if sometimes visually blurry and fairly simplistic A-movie is quite frankly a massive amount of flame bait, borderline on calling Dragonball Evolution the best film of 2008.

    Oh, and I’ve noticed my comment was removed. If it was about the moron thing, I would like to point out I tried to justify that but in any event I appologize.

  • Anonymous

    I liked this movie. From when I first saw the trailer I thought it’d be a big dumb action movie that would be fun. For me that’s what it was. I’ve seen far shakier cameras (*cough* *cough* District 9 *cough* *cough*) and far more indistinguishable action (*cough* *cough* Transformers *cough* *cough*) in other movies. I guess the tone bit stands if at any point you considered taking this movie seriously. I know I didn’t. I’m not really sure why you would. I thought it was pretty straight forward as being advertised as an homage to old school cheesy action flicks and I felt that’s what I got.

    If you kinda didn’t see that coming I’d say this:

    When you order a pizza you don’t ask the delivery guy when he shows up why he didn’t bring you a newspaper.

  • Anonymous

    Despite it’s shortcomings, I enjoyed this movie. I left feeling entertained, but yeah, it doesn’t stand up to the movies it’s trying to fit in with. Really, they could’ve streamlined the movie alot more if they had dropped some of the lesser characters, like Couture and… what’shisname… the other Old Spice Guy and just had it be the three, formerly four, man squad of Stallone, Statham, and Li with Rourke as whatever he was. Whistler to their Blade, I guess, for lack of a better comparison. With the extra baggage gone, they could’ve had room for some better characterization. Maybe hear the Characters’ names more than like once. Jet Li wasn’t as awesome as he coulda been either. He was shown as struggling at best with every fight he was in and then whining “I want more money because I’m short.” har har har.
    Willis and Schwarzenegger were also disappointingly wasted, though I’m a little upset with Spoony for not mentioning the best line in the movie:
    “What’s his problem, anyway”
    “He wants to be President.”
    C’mon! That was funny stuff right there. Now, yes, Scott Pilgrim was a much more memorable, funny, and entertaining movie, but I still felt like I got my money’s worth out of both films. Only difference is, I’d see Scott Pilgrim again.
    I’m just gonna say this. I hope RED is better.

  • http://twitter.com/CaptainofKrunk Danny Kirby Jr.

    Im a fan of spoony but lately these reviews are getting awful repetitive, redundant, wordy, and long. The Expendables is just a fun movie and wasnt trying to be anything deep. I enjoyed it and Scott Pilgrim looks terrible

  • Anonymous

    Taste in movies: 0.00. Have a fun day.

  • Anonymous

    Oh my. You were using it “before it was popular”. Intriguing. Tell me more about this indie hipster board you belong to, along with “nu-emo” and Marilyn Manson and whatever other things will make readers double-take that you can think of.

  • Anonymous

    Fail less at making non-boring posts.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Yup, definitely a hipster

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    I tried commenting but it seems that it’s avaiting moderator approval (probably because I included a link) and I doubt it’ll be accepted, so I’ll repeat what I wrote earlier. First of all if you want an example of a hipster forum, go to the Nutsie forums. I probably shouldn’t bother because from your posts with all the poor attempts at wit, sarcasm and irony you’re probably a hipster yourself. The thing about hipsters is that they’re always the ones usually deny that such a thing exists. If you have no idea about mallgoths or pop-emo fans, you’re probably living under a rock (which is also a common trait among hipsters). I really have to question the intelligence of anyone who enjoys Scott Pilgrim, especially if they’re over 18. I bet you think Juno was a great movie as well.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    For the last time, it isn’t pretentious or hipster. It’s just a wacky metaphor for a teenage loser’s struggles. The only thing remotely hipster about it is the garage bands bits and even then that’s pretty weak. I mean, anime is pretty mainstream right now and that’s exactly what a hipster is against. As for pretentious, compare it to the usual young adult romantic comedies we get. At least it has a wild and crazy background. Pretentious would be nothing that stands out and still thinking its highly important, like Eragon. if anything, the movie is too zany and embedded in geek culture. And geek culture does not equal hipster, please don’t make that argument.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    oops clicked like instead of reply..anyway. Anime is really big among indie kids (most of whom are hipsters) and so is Nintendo. I hate both of those things anyway, so it doesn’t make the movie any more likable to me. Calling it a hipster film has nothing to do with the geek thing. It’s hard to explain, but I got the same vibes a Juno while watching this and that’s not a good thing.

  • http://shadowdancersworldo.blip.tv/ Shadowdancer21b

    I’m still pulling for ya Noah. I loved Boondock Saints (The sequel bites the big one though.), no accounting for taste, right? You presented a very cogent reason why I will not like The Expendables either. Hooah.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Hipster, metrosexual indie kid, it’s all the same to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I read a report regarding headache and migraine medication. It basically said the drug suppresses the migraine and when it comes back, it’s stronger. It creates a dependency. My sister had the same problem, I told her the same she stopped taking them and now she’s fine. “Fight through the pain” Marcus from Gears of War. Don’t take things so serious as well. I’m not just talking about this movie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I’m sure a kid you described as such liked The Expendables. You are hating those kids for the reason to hate. I don’t see how being a “hipster” makes you hate The Expendables. Spoony doesn’t look like one of those kids so your argument doesn’t make any sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    Hells yes, Scott Pilgrim is what every damn video game movie should have been. Resident Evil comes to mind, even though it isn’t 8-bit I’m sure the director of Scott would have done so much better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I couldn’t agree more. At least watch both though. They’re both good in their own right.

  • Anonymous

    It is certainly NOT hipster, nor is it pretentious. In fact Scott Pilgrim satirizes all of the hipster/indie/pseudo-cool stereotypes. There is an amazing jab at Vegan culture, and the only “hipster” characters are actually quite antagonistic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    Joshua, you sound more like a hipster than anyone in here. You’re the one sounding pretentious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    Hahahah exaclty what I was thinking. It’s like calling the kettle black.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Oops, pressed like by accident again…

    I think you misunderstood. I’m definitely not calling Spoony a hipster, nor am I saying that anyone who hates the Expendables a hipster. I’m saying that Scott Pilgrim is a movie that’s made for hipsters (or indie kids, whatever), and that is one of the reasons I couldn’t enjoy the film. I don’t even think Expendables is more than an average film, I just thought that SP vs tW was far less enjoyable.

    Meh edited your post, but w/e

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I guess, it’s your opinion and your hate for “hipsters” has ruined your judgement. Don’t be so easily misguided by “them” as you seem to be. I for one hate tight jeans on people but not one moment did I think about that while watching the movie. It’s just chock full of throwbacks to old school gaming so I could care less about all that. It’s a damn comic book based in an 8-bit world. There’s always going to be trendy people just accept the fact and enjoy life. You know as you get older it’s only going to get worse.

  • Anonymous

    You know the 12 year olds who talk your ear off about how cartoons are for kids and they’re not kids, etc?
    That’s you.

    Oh you didn’t like Juno, either? Funny, I know many people well into middle age who liked it. Let me guess: It’s a movie for indie kids. And you’re not a kid.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Which is why I mentioned that in my first comment. I won’t deny that I am bitter at the whole “hipster” thing and i find it hard to enjoy anything to do with the trend, whether it portrays it positively or not. I also do not like Nintendo games (or console games, period) or anime or most of the other things that were referenced so even without the whole garage band thing, there would be little for me to enjoy. The only positive was the reference Budgie’s Breadfan during one of the “duels”, though even that was quickly ruined by the Muse song.

  • Anonymous

    Indeed, I’m a hipster. But nobody calls themselves a hipster, so by saying I’m a hipster, it really means I’m not. But that just makes me post-modern and meta, which is what hipsters are. Except meta and post-modernism are just trends, and hipsters don’t like to follow trends. But in reality, they do follow trends, so that makes me a hipster.

    This is a quandary. No, wait, no it’s not. You’re just an idiot in his late teens who thinks he knows anything. Ha! What an idea.

  • Anonymous

    That’s darling. But in the future, try watching movies without immediately feeling the need to marry them to cliques. It’s high school thinking.

    (*sigh* As if the bird avatar wasn’t a big enough indication, it’s like you’re not even trying.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I’m done, arguing with Josh is pointless.

  • Anonymous

    I find his pointless angst charming in a hipster-y way. He clearly hates anyone whose only defining characteristic is not hatred for some nebulous kiddie clique.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Hipsterdom is built on irony.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the movie was thoroughly enjoyable. Scott Pilgrim on the other hand… ugh… I’ll be disappointed if Spoony loves SP after hating on Expendables so much.

  • Anonymous

    Much like all of your posts.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    The bird avatar is the default twitter thing. I can’t be arsed to make an account here.

    “That’s darling. But in the future, try watching movies without immediately feeling the need to marry them to cliques. It’s high school thinking.”

    Seeing that the movie is targeted at high school kids, it’s hard to think otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not a single concept, it’s probably worth debating and reading about, because it’s so common these days. I’m not being an ass, rather you should put forth an effort to look around if you care this much, brah.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Finally a comment that makes sense.

  • Anonymous

    Just so you know, pig, we’ve established Joshy is an idiot. Might not want to hitch your wheel to his stubborn, butthurt horse.

  • Anonymous

    I’m aware of what the bird avatar is, dear. That’s the point I was making.
    Nonetheless, if it’s now aimed at “high school kids” (an even broader group), you should go check it out. Good to see kids have taste nowadays, eh? I was worried.
    (The way you frame it, I take it hipsters are the “cool” kids in school now? Weird. But I approve.)

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    You’d all hate hipsters too if they infected stuff you were into and completely ruined it. I don’t hate them just for the sake of it. I’m sure you’d be perfectly fine with people making fun of scenesters who read Twilight. I hold hipsters in the same regard.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    You’re the one who seems butthurt that I don’t like your precious Scott Pilgrim.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently nerds would rather have a movie about gamers geeking out in their basements then living it (with awesome bass solos).

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Why is it that hipsters like denying that they’re hipsters?

  • Anonymous

    Y’know, when I was a kid, I hated jocks. (Not really, but this is me trying to connect with you. Go with it)
    I hated their stupid faces and their stupid grunts and their stupid footballs and how they got all the chicks and I only got like one but I wasn’t trying and she was ugly and I ran away from her…
    Then I graduated and I realized something: What people do in their spare time doesn’t affect me.

    That applies to both “hipsters” and people who read Twilight. I’m not a teenage girl or a bored housewife, so I don’t see the appeal. But I don’t run to the end of my chain and bark impotently at every teenage girl or bored housewife who crosses by me.

    Ok ok, that was just a long way of saying something very simple: You’re just a flailing kid and that’s funny. Oh~ho~ho~hon~hon~…

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Okay so you admit to liking Juno. I don’t think I need to continue this any further.

  • Anonymous

    “Precious” is a Trolling 101 word. Man up.
    Nonetheless, your reply to him already implies you’ve been here for a while stirring up trouble. I hardly needed to give him a warning. I was just being polite.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    The point is me not enjoying something for being made to appeal to hipsters, is no different from me disliking something for being made to appeal at preteen girls or trailer trash rednecks. It’s just not appealing to me. I don’t like the style. It’s that not clear enough for you?

  • Anonymous

    You are constantly bashing Scott Pilgrim but every single one of your arguments has more to do with the subjectiveness of its’ style and visual language and absolutely nothing to do with story and characters. It’s like a fundamentalist Christian hating Harry Potter because “they use them magic wands and such and that’s evil.”

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Right, so anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Yup. You’re definitely not stirring shit up.

  • Anonymous

    Notice I didn’t. I pointed out the fact that grownups like Juno.
    But by all means, don’t continue this.

    You seem kinda stupid, kid. Are you a remedial? I didn’t know they had separate cliques.

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      Because you haven’t made any baseless assumptions about me.

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      Because you haven’t made any baseless assumptions about me.

  • Anonymous

    So far you haven’t. So I don’t know what you’re on about.

  • Anonymous

    “magnificient comedy action flick” It’s funny when you leave the context of “action” out of the open as some would slip in “Scott Pilgrim” of that title. :)

  • Anonymous

    That’s also a Trolling 101 meme, but even you couldn’t phrase it right, amateur.
    It’s “So anyone who disagrees with your opinion is a troll”. Get it right.

    Not to be too obvious, but no, not everyone who disagrees with people who are better than them are trolls. Just stubborn, whiny brats who cry about how much they hate something because it looks facially like something the kids who beat them up and steal their lunch money would like.
    Simple? Not enough, I assume. Carry on. “Amateur” is what I will refer to you as from now on, just so you know.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, oddly *electronicgrablewithblackbar* attractive in that kind of meani fashion. Kim’s hair makes you want to snuggle her despite the most likely outcome of her kicking you in the balls…speaking of Flowers, Jack Flowers (This “season finale” of Boondocks…which Spoony mentioned the movie of said title) kick suspected terrorists in the nuts…..WTF!? @_@

  • Anonymous

    “MMMmmm…Inception & Scott Pilgrim…”

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    I’m sorry that I don’t keep up with your internet 4chan meme crap.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Absolutely. I hate the style. Would you fault someone who’s not into scif-fi for hating Blade Runner?

  • Anonymous

    You think “meme” comes from 4chan. And yet you know enough about 4chan to think of that?
    Oh Lord, amateur, you’re honestly so precious, I think I’m getting a cavity in one of my crowns. That’s no small feat, either. It’s like porcelain or whatever crowns are nowadays.

  • Anonymous

    It’s ok. The irony isn’t bleeding from every pore of your posts, so I believe you fully when you say you’re not just a hipster complaining about how much better everything used to be before it was popular. As your mindset has shown, there is some deep thought beh– Oh God, I’m sorry, I just can’t.

    You’re too much, amateur. Really. Again, you’re characterizing your whining as rational discussion of an opinion. Yet despite your claim here, the movie is not “just not appealing to you”; your past posts make clear that it’s “waaaah hipsters waaaah everyone’s a hipster waaaah!”

  • Anonymous

    YES I would. A good movie is a good movie, regardless of its’ genre or style. Two things make a good movie: A well written script and believable acting. Scott Pilgrim had both. And judging by Spoony’s review, and most of the comments here, Expendables had neither.

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      So you’d watch a movie about men getting it on as long as the acting and script is good? Or maybe you’d listen to band with talented musicians and good lyrics, even if it’s from a style of music you despise? Or maybe an educational show aimed at toddlers that’s well written and has good acting? Or a teen romance novel that’s well written?

      You can enjoy being part of your open minded club, but if I don’t like the style of something I’m not going to enjoy it. For example I’ll never watch an Anime, no matter how good the story or voice acting may be simply because I don’t like the style.

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      So you’d watch a movie about men getting it on as long as the acting and script is good? Or maybe you’d listen to band with talented musicians and good lyrics, even if it’s from a style of music you despise? Or maybe an educational show aimed at toddlers that’s well written and has good acting? Or a teen romance novel that’s well written?

      You can enjoy being part of your open minded club, but if I don’t like the style of something I’m not going to enjoy it. For example I’ll never watch an Anime, no matter how good the story or voice acting may be simply because I don’t like the style.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    You love making assumptions don’t you? Where did I say that memes came from 4chan?

    Yes I’m an amateur, I don’t spend my life on the internet. At least I’m not a metrosexual who uses words like “precious” and has a feminine avatar.

  • Anonymous

    The very fact that you say “this movie wasn’t about the story” is absolute, 100% proof that it is a bad movie. A movie that “isn’t about story” really has no reason to exist except milk a cash cow and get butts into seats. Like I’ve said before, you don’t have to compare movies like this to The Departed (hardly an action movie), but you CAN compare it to Die Hard, which to me (and just about everybody) is the perfect action movie. And from what I’m reading, in both negative reviews and positive, it ain’t Die Hard. Hell, it ain’t even Die Hard 2.

    Goddamn. Not about story? Jesus, stop proving George Lucas is right.

  • Anonymous

    Tsk tsk, I hate to take a scolding tone with you, amateur, but:
    A) Don’t talk about movies you clearly know nothing about
    B) Try to be a little less obvious when playing into the whole “Yes, I really am desperately faking it” angle; seriously, Blade Runner as a movie a non-sci-fi fan would hate?

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      If Scott Pilgrim isn’t pretentious, you sure as hell are. I didn’t like the movie and if you can’t accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you then you’re an idiot.

    • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

      If Scott Pilgrim isn’t pretentious, you sure as hell are. I didn’t like the movie and if you can’t accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you then you’re an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    I was given the impression that Tool and Ross were, in a way, the same person. Like brothers-in-arms who knew exactly what the other would think or do.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    In my initial post all I said was that I didn’t like the whole hipster vibe of the movie and you had to go and make a big deal out of it. I’m surprised you can type with you hands so firmly around Michael Cera’s cock.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll give you a second to pretend I’m fooled that that isn’t the desperate sputterings of a greenhorn troll who really has nothing left so he’s just contradicting himself and making pretty desperate attempts to ape my own successful attacks on him:

    Second over. “I loled” as the kids say. Go back to playing DW, amateur. People are talking.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Forget it enjoy your feminine films.

  • Anonymous

    Well, unless he goes back to playing more stereotypical emotionally shut-in roles, yeah, Keep It Up. ^_^

  • Anonymous

    You say “forget it”, but you’ll still be posting.
    Desperate gender endemics, *sigh*. Are you that far in the hole?
    If you are getting your ass handed to you by a gay homosexual right now, then it really must suck to be you. Haha.

    Y’know, amateur, you’ve yet to actually admit to what we all figured out already. Just say it, so we can quote it to remind you of how worthless your opinion is.
    It’s not the fact itself that you’re a child that makes your opinion unimportant; it’s the fact that the opinion comes from a very childish place and is protected by all the stereotypical childish defense mechanisms.

  • Anonymous

    Language, amateur. The secret to continuing to troll despite being in a spitting rage is being good at hiding it. The cracks have been showing for a while. That’s why your… lack of skill is obvious.

  • Anonymous

    I suppose it would have been nice if Yin Yang at least had some more time on screen given he, Jason, and Sly are suppose to be the big 3 of the cast.

    Hell, Hale and Toll should have plenty of action scenes and they didn’t even need any kind of characterization to make up for even being in the movie.

  • Anonymous

    Actually using code names based on real life action stars (The same real life actions stars they’re playing) would have been just as clever.

  • PolitrukLex

    I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. I enjoyed the movie, but your review is still really good and you bring up some things I didn’t really consider. Keep up the good work comrade

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    I honestly do not care about being banned. I’ll probably never comment on another video here again, unless Spoony posts a vlog about SP vs TW and actually likes it.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    It’s not like you’ve never actually seen the movie or anything, eh?

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    I don’t even get why you find so ‘hipster’ about Scott Pilgrim. At best, its the indie music bits, but there are so many garage bands now that’s pretty weak. Scott Pilgrim’s more for anime and gamer geeks than hipsters, and while granted the former can include the latter that doesn’t make it entirely so.

  • http://twitter.com/BustermanZero Peter Dawson

    The problem here is you’re hiding too much behind the “I don’t like the style” argument. I mean, its a fair claim. Style is the reason I hate a lot of popular stuff. Still, calling it the worst film you’ve seen this year doesn’t mean you can use the anti-style argument, as style alone isn’t a good reason to call something the worst film you’ve seen when there’s dozens if not hundreds of ways a film can suck. Again, fine with you not liking it, I certainly don’t think my dad or even some of my friends will like it, but much like Spoony did by calling Strike Commando better than Expendables you haven’t justified your position for a further claim, hence why I’m calling foul. Now, if the only films you’ve seen this year have been flat-out solid ones like, say, Inception and Toy Story 3, I’ll give it to you.

  • Anonymous

    I really enjoyed the movie. Fast cut/ shaky camera was annoying, but didn’t detract too much imo. But yea, seeing it with a migraine may have not been the best idea, for obvious reasons. Still love ya though, Spoonalicious.

    And DAMN Sly’s juiced up forearms were crazy. Like a pipe of veins.

  • Anonymous

    1. Brokeback Mountain was a great film
    2. I’m not a hip hop fan, but I love Cypress Hill and Mos Def
    3. Pixar?
    4. I don’t really read modern lit because it’s hard to keep up with, but I did enjoy Pride & Prejudice.

    I don’t watch anime either, but I’m not going to deny the genius storytelling of Miyazaki.

    I do enjoy my open-minded club, it’s what makes a person well-rounded and cultured and enjoyable to be around. No one likes being around a prick that hates everything and only talks about the one thing they like. Hell, isn’t that what makes a hipster? They like their one narrow-minded thing and only associate themselves with people that agree with them?

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, that was a random non sequitur.
    (Get it, amateur? I’m being redundant and making a post when the best thing I could do is not do that. Hint, hint.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=743850650 Matt Hollands

    while I do respect your opinions, I have to say that you seem to be putting out a lot more negative reviews than possitive ones lately and well….it’s kinda depressing really. I’m not sure if your having a really bad time in life right now or something but it’s really showing through on your reviews. I watched this movie for instance and I took it as exactly what it was….a fun action packed balls to the wall thrill ride that entertained the hell out of millions. I really thought you would have gotten what it was all about but apparently not. I do see your points and I did notice the similar Rambo type story of hero goes back to save the girl kinda thing….but I didn’t let it get to me.
    Hopeing for a little more possitive reviews in the future, and take care of yourself man!
    and remember to smile :D

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Those two + Expendalbes, Iron Man and Kick-Ass, which weren’t great but entertaining. I’ve also watched Robin Hood and Shutter Island, so maybe “worst I’ve seen this year” was a slight exaggeration.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Nope, in fact a lot of hipsters talk about being well rounded and cultured. You’ll never see a hipster that isn;t into a little bit of everything. Anyway, ignoring the whole hipster thing you’re seriously telling me that Michael Cera is a good actor? He was awful as always.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    Why should I stop posting? I’m getting enough replies and SP fans riled up and that’s good enough for me to carry on.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    I don’t like anime or Nintendo culture either, so it’s not just the music that bothered me.

  • http://twitter.com/brc20007 Joshua D

    It’s because he thinks acting like a prick makes him look intelligent.

  • Anonymous

    yea scott pilgrim kinda sucled

  • Anonymous

    to be honest, both of you two are just assholes

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=671286457 Anonymous

    I just finished vol 6 of Scott last night. I somehow doubt that the movie can live up to the comic’s indie charms… but we’ll see….

  • Anonymous

    Expendables text review from the AVGN

    Tough guys. Always going on suicidal missions. Threatened by bullets and blades. Running from explosions. Best friends waging wars. Nearly killing each other, then going to the bar later to laugh about it. Director and star, Sylvester Stallone, gets all his best men together to kick as much ass as humanly possible, allowing himself a severe beating from Steve Austin. Sly took a serious neck injury. Then he goes in front of a Comic Con audience and jokes about it. A man whose Double-”R” franchises, Rocky and Rambo have both been highly successful. But he keeps coming back for more pain and putting his body on the line for the sake of entertainment. There’s nothing tougher than that!

    The Expendables is a movie that lifts you up out of your seat, pats you on the head, gives you a lollipop then smashes you in the fucking face! With a cast like Jason Stathum, Randy Couture, Jet Li, Mickey Rourke, Terry Crews, Dolph “I Must Break You” Lundgren, and cameos from Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger, you’d think it would be one crazy mess. Surprisingly, it’s more focused then you may think. Just a straight-forward action movie with a reasonable run time that sustains itself and never has a chance to feel dull. It doesn’t try to be anything more than what it is.

    The only negative: Some of the blood and explosions looked digital. Wish it could have been just a bit more authentic. Sometimes, there was a tad too many closeups during the fight scenes. With so many people fighting at the same time, sometimes I couldn’t tell who was punching who. It didn’t happen very often, but how cool would it be just for one moment to see three simultaneous fights from a super wide master shot? Never, but I can’t blame them. At least let the cameras pull back and allow the choreography to do the work.

    It feels nice to get my ass kicked by something I haven’t seen yet. It’s not Rambo. It’s not Rocky. Nor is it another Die Hard or Terminator sequel. It’s something fresh, yet feels like it came out of the 80’s. It has the perfect blend of humor, blood, sweat, smart-ass comebacks, witty one-liners, and an overabundance of testosterone! Don’t expect anything more than action, exposition, action, exposition, all with a nice cherry on top… with sprinkles… and grenades. And some real tough guys. We all wish we could be tough guys. But no, let’s just watch’em instead.

    Thats what a fair review of a movie looks like.

  • Anonymous

    Fail less at trolling. You’ve replied to everyone who disliked Spoony’s review, or Scott Pilgrim. Go outside once and a while.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t seem to get that movies don’t fit a specific mold. Some movies make you think, some are just an action packed ride. Sorry you don’t want to understand that. Also, Angry Joe, Cinema Snob, and AVGN all enjoyed the movie and said so in reviews, while still listing flaws. Spoony just bashed the movie like you, but at least he actually saw the movie. You just get your opinions from Spoony, way to be a sheep.

  • Anonymous

    haha you know, that’s just what i was thinking. THIS WEEK on “troll vs. troll” WHO. IS. DEADLIEST??!!!

  • Anonymous

    Actually, I added that right after I posted. No, I’m not suggesting Spoony ban people who disagree with him; I disagree with him sometimes, it’s to be expected that opinions are going to be different. I am suggesting that he ban people who are insulting to him and others who post on the site.

    I wouldn’t edit my post after you replied, I would have done what I’m doing now, replying to you directly. But I didn’t feel I had anything constructive to say to your last post; you’re allowed to state your opinion. The only thing I could have done is perhaps make my point clearer, but I’m sure people would have disagreed with that. I’ve not read all the comments either, but judging from the climate around here lately, I think there have been people around who deserve banning.

    Further aside, like I said, I edited my post two seconds after I posted it, well before you commented. If I thought you were trolling, I would have said it flat out.

  • Anonymous

    Eesh there is a lot of hate in this thread.

    Anyway, I just got back from the Expendables myself. My opinion on it is that it was great. No it didnt have a great story. And I will agree with the other guy and say, yes, its not fully about the story. Why does that make this a bad movie? Not every movie counts on its story to cary it. I am probably going to see that Piranha 3D movie with my friends, and we will love it. It will be a terribly stupid movie, with crappy acting and worse story. BUT that and this movie does something different that a lot of movies do not. This movie was about haveing fun. You get your popcorn, sit down with a bunch of friends, and just enjoy the show. You groan when some poor guy gets his neck snapped in a pinfull way, and you laugh and go “Aww Dammmmmm” when a guy gets blasted in two by a shotgun. Its just fun. This movie was made for those of us that could sit down and enjoy it for what it was. If its not your thing, or dont like it, no biggy. Go watch something else. I bet the dudes had a ton of fun making this movie.

    There are other movies that try to be about story and fail (thats where Lucas comes in) but this movie was just about seeing old and new action stars, killing bad guys. Its mindless fun. Self indulgance. You worked a hard days work, and want to watch something that is just pure entertainment. Good old fastioned fun.

    I will say that the shaky cam was a bit annoying, but I think they used that to make up for like half the actors being like 60.

    Side note, I also liked the Scot Pilgram movie. That was a movie made for anime and gamer dudes. Both Expendables and Pilgram were good movies, in the terms of which they were ment.

  • Anonymous

    Actually I just got back from seeing it just so I could put my money where my mouth is. My honest opinion about the movie is that while the novelty itself of uniting action stars together for a fun popcorn movie is exciting and somewhat entertaining, I still felt like it was missing something. I agree with Spoony concerning Rourke. He was the film’s saving grace. The man can deliver dialogue in such a natural way, it really feels like another movie whenever he’s on-screen. Dolph Lundgren’s character was the most interesting, mainly because he actually had a struggle to overcome, while everyone else was just so undeniably awesome with zero flaws. The action was cool, but I’m a little surprised at the route Stallone took with the shaky cam – surely you’d want to keep the camera still when Jet Li’s doing his thing, right? I think Terry Crews was also underused. The guy has great comedic timing, I think he would’ve made for an awesome comic relief, but I guess Stallone’s not really known for his sense of humor when it comes to writing. Eric Roberts is undeniably cool, I give this film credit for having at least a cool, bad-ass and slick villain that really is right out of the 80′s. He definitely would’ve voted for Reagan and sniffed coke out of a gold cigarette case, so I totally bought him.

    My biggest gripe is that there was a better story in there. I would’ve liked to have seen more of a struggle between Garza and Monroe. I actually felt sorry for the cannon fodder being mowed down by Stallone and crew because Garza really was just being manipulated by Monroe, I think it would’ve been interesting to see a more fleshed out struggle in that, and I don’t think it would’ve taken away from the popcorn factor or the enjoyment from the film.

    I think the script suffered from too much going on, and it probably would’ve been better to focus the story and characters a little more. For example, Sly could’ve easily trimmed down the characters to just him, Rourke and Lundgren. Focus a bit more on Stallone and his character, and give a more active role to Rourke and give Lundgren an actual character arc (he’s good, then he’s bad, then he’s redeemed). Add to that a more tense struggle between Garza and Munroe, make Garza out to be a more tragic character that’s just looking out for his country but is betrayed by Munroe. That’s just spitballing, but I think if it were as tight as that it would’ve made for a more memorable movie, and not just something ranked with the more ho-hum action films of the 80′s.

    So there’s my honest opinion. Take it for what it’s worth. I didn’t hate it as much as Spoony, but I don’t like it as much as others did. I think there were better action movies that have come out in the past 10 years, and I would bet my hard earned cash that the upcoming Red and Machete will be more enjoyable.

  • Anonymous

    Actually I just got back from seeing it just so I could put my money where my mouth is. My honest opinion about the movie is that while the novelty itself of uniting action stars together for a fun popcorn movie is exciting and somewhat entertaining, I still felt like it was missing something. I agree with Spoony concerning Rourke. He was the film’s saving grace. The man can deliver dialogue in such a natural way, it really feels like another movie whenever he’s on-screen. Dolph Lundgren’s character was the most interesting, mainly because he actually had a struggle to overcome, while everyone else was just so undeniably awesome with zero flaws. The action was cool, but I’m a little surprised at the route Stallone took with the shaky cam – surely you’d want to keep the camera still when Jet Li’s doing his thing, right? I think Terry Crews was also underused. The guy has great comedic timing, I think he would’ve made for an awesome comic relief, but I guess Stallone’s not really known for his sense of humor when it comes to writing. Eric Roberts is undeniably cool, I give this film credit for having at least a cool, bad-ass and slick villain that really is right out of the 80′s. He definitely would’ve voted for Reagan and sniffed coke out of a gold cigarette case, so I totally bought him.

    My biggest gripe is that there was a better story in there. I would’ve liked to have seen more of a struggle between Garza and Monroe. I actually felt sorry for the cannon fodder being mowed down by Stallone and crew because Garza really was just being manipulated by Monroe, I think it would’ve been interesting to see a more fleshed out struggle in that, and I don’t think it would’ve taken away from the popcorn factor or the enjoyment from the film.

    I think the script suffered from too much going on, and it probably would’ve been better to focus the story and characters a little more. For example, Sly could’ve easily trimmed down the characters to just him, Rourke and Lundgren. Focus a bit more on Stallone and his character, and give a more active role to Rourke and give Lundgren an actual character arc (he’s good, then he’s bad, then he’s redeemed). Add to that a more tense struggle between Garza and Munroe, make Garza out to be a more tragic character that’s just looking out for his country but is betrayed by Munroe. That’s just spitballing, but I think if it were as tight as that it would’ve made for a more memorable movie, and not just something ranked with the more ho-hum action films of the 80′s.

    So there’s my honest opinion. Take it for what it’s worth. I didn’t hate it as much as Spoony, but I don’t like it as much as others did. I think there were better action movies that have come out in the past 10 years, and I would bet my hard earned cash that the upcoming Red and Machete will be more enjoyable.

  • http://twitter.com/jhohcable Jhoh "Juh’Haw&q

    Seeing any movie with a migraine isn’t a good idea actually, I thought The Expendables was fuckin awesome, but if I went with a migraine I wouldn’t have liked it either. It did have a lot of shaky cam and that never helps I think, a lot of the action was sometimes really hard to keep track of and I wish they’d cut that out, especially since Stallone directed, and he did Rambo 4 which was a lot more clear and easy to watch visually, it had shaky cam but a lot less.

    Still, loved the movie, loved the action, loved all the guys and explodey ass kickings. I think you gotta give the movie another try another time.

  • Anonymous

    *Stabs Troll with Naginata* alright come in *Dr. Armand Dorian, from Deadliest Warrior, walks in and puts on gloves*

    “Yea, that troll would be dead”

  • Anonymous

    Thats a kill shot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Park-Boyer/671233120 Park Boyer

    I love that you harp on the same kind of stuff that I would harp on. I was really looking forward to this but pretty much feared it would end up being exactly what you’ve described.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WUG47RMOHP7HLAFVGEV6R4ZD6Y Hawk

    well, I enjoyed the movie well enough, although I do agree with some of your points. However, it is really disappointing to watch some of your review when you seem to be so thick on certain aspects. I’m unclear whether you are purposely misdiagnosing some things as part of your persona, if you’ve just forgotten or confused things since absorbing the material, or if you just can’t understand it… curious, to be sure.

    For instance, your comments about not buying how these hardened mercenaries would suddenly find a conscience… Well, if you were paying attention then you know that’s not it at all. These aren’t hardened people who have no heart and don’t care about life or morality. Actually, you already did mention the motivation for going back to help the woman. Everyone’s worried about all the action and killing they’ve seen, and they’re worried about “saving their souls.” Rourke talks about that time he could have saved that woman in the past, along with what was left of his soul. He has regretted letting her die for the rest of his life, and the rest of the gang wants to prevent themselves from going down that same path. The group used to stand for something, and they don’t want to let themselves become meaningless killers-for-hire.
    So, they go on this crusade to free a country from brutality. Makes perfect sense to me…

    That’s the only complaint I have with this review. It’s one thing to have your own opinion about what they did with the storyline of movies and games, but it’s a little annoying when you either purposefully or accidentally confuse or downright reverse the plot points and complain about them.

    Oh and P.S. The names were mostly pseudonyms, according to when they first were talking about the job with Willis. Not they ever flat-out said “these aren’t our real names,” but still. Hard to tell if those are real names, or code names or what. Not that it is really important, I kinda like the idea of them going by actor names :-)

  • Anonymous

    to be honest i thought the second one was better than the first one, because the second one, didn’t take itself to seriously, the BIGGEST problem of the first one.
    seriously i cud write a novel of reasons why i hate Boondock Saints

  • Anonymous

    I disagree. I loved Expendables. You’re overthinking something that doesn’t need to be overthought, IMO.

  • Anonymous

    “the plotless action bollocks of the 80s no longer has a place”

    If it makes money and it has an audience, then it has a place. (Inb4 “But Twilight makes money too, and that sucked!”)

  • Anonymous

    yeah, it has a place….in the recycling bin

  • http://shadowdancersworldo.blip.tv/ Shadowdancer21b

    There’s just no accounting for taste right? At least we can agree that Agent Smecker was the shit.

  • http://shadowdancersworldo.blip.tv/ Shadowdancer21b

    If you want good video game movies check out x-strike studios. I own all their films and they all are fun and true to the source material.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Schroeder/100000970125960 Michael Schroeder

    It should be thought any movie including a dumb comedy should be thought about. This is something you can’t pass is the story why are these people killing a huge number of people if it makes no sense then its pointless. Then you say well the whole point is pointless action ,but its not over the top enough to make it so entertaining to be its own movie. So your left with some decent action and then a pointless story what else nothing. That is the whole point of the review.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MedicFinland Esa Hintikka

    I’m one to agree with your opinions on many many things, but… I have to disagree with on this one. I liked every moment of this shit! I was like Jagged Alliance on steroids turned into a movie… Man I loved this movie!

    If I had a migraine(which I do have sometimes and I feel for you man), I would not have liked it either.

  • Anonymous

    “It should be thought any movie including a dumb comedy should be thought about.”

    I cheerfully disagree simply because there shouldn’t be a set way to view a film, regardless of your rationalizations. ^_^

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Schroeder/100000970125960 Michael Schroeder

    I cheerfully disagree to say that a movie shouldn’t be given standards just because you don’t care about anything else except for action. ^_^

  • Anonymous

    Yay! Then we agree on something: Disagreeing! ^_^

  • Anonymous

    Holy crap, I have never walked out of the theater and then watched one of your reviews having said everything you did to a tee, but this review. The lack of decision on what kind of movie it wants to be, the bad dialog, the way too close with too many quick cuts hard to follow action. Damn, this movie could’ve been so much better than it is. Just about the only redeeming part is where Terry Crews takes the AA12 and goes to town on that hallway full of badies.

  • Anonymous

    “yeah, it has a place….in the recycling bin.”

    (shrugs) All the people who expected this to be Predators, Lethal Weapon, Commando (?!)… you only have yourselves to blame for hating this film.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think one can talk about “getting” something and be respectful to different opinions at the same time. Also I’m not sure if I can relate your hypothetical scenario to what happened here. This whole “common sense” talk is too intolerant and aggressive.

  • Anonymous

    you two are just bread and butter :D

  • Anonymous

    This movie was indeed a big letdown. One scene I’m shocked you didn’t mention was the one with Stalone meeting up with Bruce Willis and Arnold. As much as it was hyped in the previews, it really fell flat. The dialog between Sly and Arnold was so bad, it may have been the worst seen in the movie. The big dream team up of 3 of the biggest 80s action stars was completely wasted!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3JFCXVGHSGX2J6FJM4NUNZOZE Russ

      Of course it did…cause this isn’t 1989 ‘:B-)

      They’re getting old, and obviously don’t really want to do this anymore.

  • http://twitter.com/strife17 Eric Draven

    You should have gone to see Scott Pilgrim vs. The World

  • Anonymous

    Meh. Barely anyone did. Better luck next week?

  • http://twitter.com/EmeraldLatias Erica Seguin

    I waited until I’d actually seen The Expendables before I watched the review and I’ve got to say you’ve nailed every negative point about this movie I had thought of once I walked out of the theater last night. To be honest, it’s alright as long as you set your expectations accordingly so it was alright…for an extremely violent comedy.

  • Anonymous

    sounds like jean claude van dam had the last laugh….

  • Anonymous

    Character Build-up and Backgrounds for everyone needed to be done. I feel like the movie wasn’t long enough and was missing a half hour. It should have been a +2 hour movie with that many hardcore guys. It felt rushed. Only Jason Statham and Rourke (flashbacks were needed I think) had character buildup which is such a shame. The part of Jet-li just giving a hint of his background made me think I am actually going to see the Kid he was referring to.

    But if it was going to be that long your going into Oscar territory, and from what I know they were working with a really small budget to compete.

    But the way they ended the movie with Dolph still alive has me thinking that there is going to be a part 2, 3 and 4 describing each characters’ background or them exploring eachothers’ individually which would be awesome and then that would mean no more Rourke and Statham backgrounds being introduced and just everyone else in the cast…which would be cool with me to have that being the ongoing theme of “The Expendables”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Morey/100000825200404 Donald Morey

    Gotta say while I liked this movie, there wasn’t anything in your review that wasn’t valid. In particular, your complaints about the shakey, too close camera shots were DEAD ON. I thought that Statham had been injured at least 4 times in the final action sequences only to realize a few seconds later that it had been a random soldier. At least they didn’t cheapen Stallone’s character by hooking him up with the female protagonist.

  • Anonymous

    haha, i actually loved Smecker
    only reason why i was able to sit through that movie

  • Anonymous

    Ok I do admit the camraing was a bit bad and yes some of the filming wasn’t quite memorable. Most of it seemed to be centering on the ‘buddy system’ like Stallone and Stathom talking about their luck with girls n stuff while drinking and flying (Don’t drink and fly kids. lol.). I agree with my sister that the story was meh at best but seeing Li VS Lungdren, off the hook! I thought it was well written or I swear they did alot of good improvisation like where Stathom kills a guy in front of him with a knife, Stallone kills the guy behind Stahom, Stathom goes “HEY *Taps head* YOU COULD OF KILLED ME!”, Stallone goes “You welcome” then mocks Stathoms body movement. I laughed when he did that because I wonder if Stallone watched any of Stathom’s movies where Stathom at times makes these wierd body movements in a scene or two like in CRANK 2. My main down points of the movie was Lundgren coincidently survived and Coutre I never heard of Actor wise but he was ok. Also Austin kicked ass as a villain and I thought the main business man badguy who also was the mob boss guy who died at the hands of Two Face in DARK KNIGHT did well but I hope he doesn’t get stereotyped.

    You do have valid points to I am not here to disrespect you in anyway dude. You sent me a nice e-mail about AVATAR because i mentioned my ass fell asleep (which it litteraly did) but I didn’t forsay hated the movie. I just felt like it was to long. I can see why you hate Expendables.

    PS: Don’t see movies with a migrane. I saw VAN HELSING depressed and was spaced out every second of the movie. Was better the second time around….despite the cheapness it seemed. See movies when your not sick.

  • Nanban Jim

    I hear you about the shakeycam abuse. It ruined the Dark Knight, not from use but abuse. Same with this movie.

  • Anonymous

    At first I thought you were a pompous ass, but upon seeing this review I have to say that you raise some very VERY good points. However I still disagree with the statement of the action being hard to see as I saw it just fine, but I can still admit that the acting was a bit underwhelming and that it could have been so much more. Regardless I’d still recommend this to people as it’s entertaining enough.

  • http://twitter.com/MrNamefag Ashely Lutz

    I’m all for differing opinions, but if you like this movie you just flat out have bad taste. I would go into why, but I would just sound like I was quoting Spoony.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erik-Boismier/698215706 Erik Boismier

    OK, I know posting as a guest isn’t going to earn my comment any real recognition (EDIT: couldn’t figure out how to post as a guest, just used facebook), but I just feel like saying this: I’m very happy to see Spoony didn’t think much of the movie either. I just saw it last night with a couple of friends and…well, I did enjoy it, but at the same time I have so many criticisms of it, perhaps even more than Spoony. It was fun to watch the one time, but I wouldn’t bother seeing it again, and it certainly doesn’t qualify as a *good* or *quality* movie.
    I just feel very alone in the perspective, so it’s really nice to hear Spoony’s criticisms as well as the others in the comments here.

  • Anonymous

    So true Noah, this movie will be forgotten. The movie is so empty, we don’t really get to know the characters, there is not really any good action to SEE, only silly conversations. If we would not know the real history of those good action stars we would haven’t get anything out of this movie.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V4UNELNHRDLGSBMSD32U6RHGCQ Anonymous

    double post?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V4UNELNHRDLGSBMSD32U6RHGCQ Anonymous

    The Expendable was indeed not good, but for the totally opposite reason than Spoony’s. I was expecting an 80s style action romp cheese fest, but what I got was talk, talk, talk, badly shot action. Where were all the one-liners? The totally over the top and seeable action. Half the action was out of focus, another ten percent the camera was off to the side seeing only parts of the ones doing the action, and another twenty-five percent it kept cutting away before the action was properly finished.

    Seriously, what 80s action star would need a run Micky Rourke rambling on about a girl committing suicide before he finally gets the idea he fucked up and it’s time correct the mistake?

    What 80s action movie needed a completely pointless and needless sub-plot of the action guy having a girl that went with another guy that’s abusive douche, and he needs to go beat the guy up; with nothing at all present in the subplot. Charisma Carpenter – Lacey – had nothing to do but look pretty. We don’t know why Statham is with, except that she’s pretty, we see nothing about who or what she is, except that she’s pretty is fed up with waiting for Statham. There’s nothing here. Nothing, nada, zilch… well, it created some funny banter. Actually, it kinda didn’t. The banter was that she wasn’t Statham’s type. So what is his type? Hell, what is Lacy’s type? Which reminds me: what 80s action guys needed two scenes of a girl that went nowhere, just to generate some pointless banter?

    Jet Li: Criminally under used. The guy completely stole every scene he was in, yet despite this and despite being the third name before the title, is barely more than a supporting character. This was especially visible in the end. Why was it the black guy with the automatic shotgun (that should tell you something) that threw the bomb for Stallone to shoot? Why wasn’t it not Li that double kicked it toward the helicopter? Why didn’t Jet Li pop in his head in the cockpit as Statham returns the “not your type” bit, and tells them, “You two are certifiable, you know that?” Or something like it. Why was Austin… no, scratch that, that requires it’s own paragraph.

    Why the hell was Austin taken out by the former wrestler? This is the main action bad guy. The main action bad guy, should be taken out by (one of) the main action good guys. Since the auto-shutgun guy, and the wrestler guy are just supporting characters, neither of them should have done it. In fact, 80s action cliche: bad guy kicks good guy ass but good guy survives –> end of movie, good guy kicks bad guy’s ass and finishes him with a one-liner. So Stallone should have kicked Austin’s ass; but I know, Stallone’s story is the ex-CIA guy and the girl, so it was not Stallone that had to get his ass kicked by Austin earlier, it had to be someone else, that is either Li, or Statham. And of course, it had to have been Li. He had nothing to do in the end, which he needed. He also got his ass kicked by Lundgren twice over already, fought the other guy with help, and then only has a lame “I would have won you know” to Lundgren at the end; Austin should have kicked his ass first, and then get his ass royally kicked by Li, preferably with a repeat of the Lundgren lifting Li high over him, ready to throw him into something deadly moment, where Li flips in the air after being thrown, avoids the sure death, and proceeds to utter decimate Austin, so when everyone hear’s Li claim in the final scene, everyone goes: “Oh, yeah, he would have.”

    Which gets to Austin’s death on his own. An equal fight and then he gets pushed into a fire, totally anti-climactic? What main action villain of the 80s died with a whimper!? And oh, yeah: WHERE WAS THE DAMN ONE-LINER UPON HIS DEATH!?

    There’s some good stuff here and there, some fun moments, and I had an okay time, but for a movie starring Stallone, Statham and Li, this was abysmal. Of course, the fact it stars Stallone, Statham and Li, and the few good moments that looked like 80s action, gives this movie a 6 out of 10 for me. And no, that’s not Angry Joe’s scale, that’s a real scale, that’s only just a passing grade.

    But Spoony’s right, I suppose. This movie is an incomplete mishmash. It’s got some hints at a modern drama action flick, and some hints of a cheesy, over-the-top 80s action. If this was a proper modern, drama action movie, it would probably have been better than it is now. Of course, I believe, as the trailer implied, as lots of people and reviewers said, as I was expecting, that this should have been a balls-to-the-walls 80s action movie. But it wasn’t! Where’s my action 80s action movie that I was promised!?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3JFCXVGHSGX2J6FJM4NUNZOZE Russ

      I do agree that the action scenes were generally lacking. Again, I thought the movie was basically an homage to stupid ’80s action flicks; but why would I want to watch a bunch of aged action stars doing an homage to their old work….when I can just watch that classic old work?

  • http://www.wdfnews.com FinalGamer

    I….am confused. I went to see The Expendables today and I dunno what Spoony is talking about the things they never did.

    They did do great, they DID have a Dirty Dozen thing, it was the finale of the movie! Hell they even broke a few clichés in the finale. I honestly don’t know where Spoony is coming from on this, it’s a lot less stupid than most action movies I’ve seen. I think you should go back and watch the movie again WITHOUT the migraine because you can’t possibly not remember some of the most awesome stuff that you said you were expecting the movie to do.

    It was a balls-to-the-wall 80s-style action movie. It was 110 minutes long but didn’t feel like it, it had a simple plot, it had a wide cast of ass-kicking characters, most of whom who do kick some brutal ass, and it had a very satisfying ending filled with bullets, explosions and gore.

    Seriously, please Spoony, watch the movie again when you’re better, because all the stuff you wanted was in there, unless you were expecting an incredibly intelligent action movie with a really really twisting plot and what you got instead was an insanely crazy action movie that was about 40% dialogue and 60% action which made up PLENTY for the dialogue that covered what little plot there was.

  • http://thegreyghost.livejournal.com/ The Grey Ghost

    I finally saw the movie today and have been waiting until now to see this review vid. With this movie and Scott Pilgrim, I’ve never agreed with you more. We had the exact same thoughts about both movies and I feel so much more sane; being otherwise alone in these opinions among my peers.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t this movie be a lot cooler if instead of all these added characters we don’t know about, each action star portrayed a role they are most known for?
    Like imagine Rambo, The Terminator, John McClane, Chev Chelios, villain from Lethal Weapon 4, He-Man (… >_>) Marv from Sin City and Randy Couture (as Randy Couture) going around just shooting anything that moves!!!

    Epic

  • Anonymous

    I almost never disagree with you, but you are compeltely WRONG this time. This movie is exactly what it should be. Done exactly right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-W-Rampey/1003608675 Jacob W. Rampey

    I was siding with Spoony for awhile, but a friend wanted to watch it today and I couldn’t back down.

    After watching the movie, I disagree with the review.

    That movie was so ridiculous it made it awesome. Once I saw Cheeseburger Eddie mowing fools down with his automatic shotgun I was sold on its greatness. Then he shoots a guard tower and it explodes hahah. Even though he had that detonator round, that shit had some crazy ass range. MW2 mounted shotgun status. That shit is good times.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SlickyMike88 Michael Kragseth

    I hoped to have a really violent fun movie ,but it was just a meh to me :P. I have seen many action movies that are better then this , die hard , rambo , commandos , mad max (nr 2) and the list goes on :P . Yes this movie had a good humoures side to it , but that isn’t enought. The acion scene’s in this movie where bad to be hones’t, everything went to fast in the fight scenes , the camera angles were bad and etc ….. I really wanted to like this movie but it didn’t delivere to me at all:P

  • http://www.facebook.com/SlickyMike88 Michael Kragseth

    I hoped to have a really violent fun movie ,but it was just a meh to me :P. I have seen many action movies that are better then this , die hard , rambo , commandos , mad max (nr 2) and the list goes on :P . Yes this movie had a good humoures side to it , but that isn’t enought. The acion scene’s in this movie where bad to be hones’t, everything went to fast in the fight scenes , the camera angles were bad and etc ….. I really wanted to like this movie but it didn’t delivere to me at all:P

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R2PXJBI2MYYYETRXGCFBR4HOTA mitsos

    I don’t entirely agree with you Spoony, but this was a so-so movie alright… I’d give it a 7+ /10. I started watching it with high expectations waiting for the movie to lift off. It finally did with the plane escape scene and the “payback” after… The last part of the movie when they attack the castle is pretty good also. I expected to see much more action in this movie -or- something to fill in the between. Not lame scenes with the bad guys talking and talking and doing nothing… The main thing I disagree with you spoon is the motivation they had, to go wage a war on some bad guys on some distant island. They did not all get sentimental in 1 day because of a stupid, stubborn chick. They were getting paid of course, but… First of all Stallone got really head-screwed with Rourke’s story about the woman he could have saved, and didn’t cause it was not his mission and thinks about every day. So he feels he has to go do the first truly good thing in his mercenary, people-murduring life. All the other guys, they couldn’t care less about that woman. They go because they know companionship, they know war, it’s what they do. They are like the numerous fps games we played, or the hundreds movies we seen with the trigger-happy companions saying “You go, I go” , “Can’t leave you alone!” , and so on… For them the woman is just a red dot on the mission map.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks Dude, You most certainly summed up my main dissagreement of criticism against spoony as of why he makes this movie sound worse than it really is. (First, off i had a blast when watching it in theaters, and I truly believe that’s all that matters. Big names, big guns, Big Explosions, Big fun.)

      My main point, that I think you described perfectly (and I’m completley honest when I say that, no lie) was Mickey Rourkes war story of allowing that woman to die when he had the available clear chance to save her, only to walk away for following orders. Then eventually regretting it until the present day. That’s the source in Sly’s motivation for going back to that country while his mercs are by his side, because of pure companionship of men at war. “They can’t leave him alone”, just as you said.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks Dude, You most certainly summed up my main dissagreement of criticism against spoony as of why he makes this movie sound worse than it really is. (First, off i had a blast when watching it in theaters, and I truly believe that’s all that matters. Big names, big guns, Big Explosions, Big fun.)

      My main point, that I think you described perfectly (and I’m completley honest when I say that, no lie) was Mickey Rourkes war story of allowing that woman to die when he had the available clear chance to save her, only to walk away for following orders. Then eventually regretting it until the present day. That’s the source in Sly’s motivation for going back to that country while his mercs are by his side, because of pure companionship of men at war. “They can’t leave him alone”, just as you said.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks Dude, You most certainly summed up my main dissagreement of criticism against spoony as of why he makes this movie sound worse than it really is. (First, off i had a blast when watching it in theaters, and I truly believe that’s all that matters. Big names, big guns, Big Explosions, Big fun.)

      My main point, that I think you described perfectly (and I’m completley honest when I say that, no lie) was Mickey Rourkes war story of allowing that woman to die when he had the available clear chance to save her, only to walk away for following orders. Then eventually regretting it until the present day. That’s the source in Sly’s motivation for going back to that country while his mercs are by his side, because of pure companionship of men at war. “They can’t leave him alone”, just as you said.

  • Anonymous

    When you review a film, you have to take into account the context in which you see it. For example, you first saw Rambo II when you were a young teenager, and that’s a big part of why you liked it I think.
    Seeing The Expendables today, as an adult, you don’t have the same fond memories as with 80s or 90s action films, and that’s normal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3JFCXVGHSGX2J6FJM4NUNZOZE Russ

    I’m under the impression that Stallone completely intended this movie to be an homage to the old action movies, and nothing more. I mean…he brings in Dolph Lundgren and has a scene that PERFECTLY emulates the scene with the two of them in the ring from Rocky IV where they’re facing each other. I was laughing my ass off cause it was obviously the whole point the whole time. In movies like these, the plot is never entirely important; I mean, the plot in Commando was as NES game as you could get it. It was basically “Arnold blows %$#@ up for an hour and a half”, and that’s what made it great. I pretty much see the Expendables the same way. The thing is….I didn’t love Expendables as much; I guess my tastes have changed to an extent. Where I do have to agree with you–and I agree with you more than you think btw– is that if I want a stupid action flick, I got so many to choose from; I’d rather take the stupid action movies than the one that was meant solely as an homage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L3JFCXVGHSGX2J6FJM4NUNZOZE Russ

    I’m under the impression that Stallone completely intended this movie to be an homage to the old action movies, and nothing more. I mean…he brings in Dolph Lundgren and has a scene that PERFECTLY emulates the scene with the two of them in the ring from Rocky IV where they’re facing each other. I was laughing my ass off cause it was obviously the whole point the whole time. In movies like these, the plot is never entirely important; I mean, the plot in Commando was as NES game as you could get it. It was basically “Arnold blows %$#@ up for an hour and a half”, and that’s what made it great. I pretty much see the Expendables the same way. The thing is….I didn’t love Expendables as much; I guess my tastes have changed to an extent. Where I do have to agree with you–and I agree with you more than you think btw– is that if I want a stupid action flick, I got so many to choose from; I’d rather take the stupid action movies than the one that was meant solely as an homage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laura-Reger/100001101279568 Laura Reger

    When I first saw this review, I really didn’t believe Spoony. I though he was being too highbrow and believed the Cinema Snob recommendation when he reviewed The Expendables. I loved all the actors and this was the ONE time they’d all be together on a movie.
    I wanted to love this movie. A lot.
    However, when I rented the movie on Blueray and watched it, I felt part of myself die inside.
    It ‘hurt’ to watch this movie, and this is coming from a person that grew up watching stupid action flicks like Running Man. I think the real reason is that everything, for the exception of the pyrotechnics, was weak. The characters were weak, the plot was weak, the action sequences were weak, and the performances felt ‘and’ looked phoned in.
    A problem of the Expendables is that it seemed less like a group of action heroes, and more like ‘Stallone and friends.’ In fact, I think the ‘Expendables’ were only fighting together a total of two times. All the other scenes were of Stallone plus one other guy.
    Also, the movie was too ‘safe’ in certain places when the movie portrayed a gritty atmosphere. An example is the ‘torture’ scene with the rebel chick. At first I was freaking out, because in modern film, torture scenes are really graphic, and I’m squeamish when it comes to stuff like that. Before this scene, I was halfway brain dead from the lack of drama, conflict, or plain old fun action. For the first time in the movie, a scene held weight and I was worried about the character. Whether or not she was going to live or die would she get out of this situation unscathed……and then they started to water board her.
    When I think of a gritty, corrupt, dictatorship in South America that has no honor or Geniva convention, water boarding isn’t the first thing to come to mind. At first, I actually though they were going to beat the crap out of her, showing how horrible the bad guys were and how much the good guys needed to stop them. Instead I got a water boarding scene that just reminded me of G.I.Jane, and instantly made me want to watch a better movie. It was very safe, cowardly, and instantly made me stop caring about the girl’s situation because if they weren’t going to bloody her up ‘a little,’ chances were she was in no danger of dieing. Finally the creators tries to make us worry about the girl in the one ‘suspense’ scene with the guards that were going to burn her with a SINGLE CIGARETTE! It lack tension because 1) It’s been done before and more dramatically, and 2) During that scene I was saying in a bored voice, ‘And Stallone come in now….or now….or now….or keep drawing it out….an-d…..Oh look! Stallone came in out of nowhere, and saved the chick who’s name I can’t remember….yay.’
    Moving on, there was no motivation from ANYONE! I didn’t get the sense that anyone cared about what was going on, nor was there any real visible conflict between the rebels, the Expendables, and the government. The closest thing to conflict was when Jason Statham’s girlfriend cheating on him and him later on beating up her abusive boyfriend. (to which I personally had a problem with because no woman ALIVE would pick some guy that looked like a tool over Jason Statham!) So yeah, the closest thing we get to conflict was with Statham and his bimbo of a girlfriend.
    One could guess that there is no conflict because the villains are stupid. The evil president comes off as impenitent, while I guess the creators were trying to make him a tragic character. I wrote him off as a superfluous character when he made his army wear stupid face paint to better hide the faces of the stunt crew in the climatic battle. The corrupt CIA agent seemed idiotic in behavior, and in his dealings with the evil dictator. I still have no idea why he dragged the chick along in the final scenes while it would of been easier and eviler for him to just shoot her.
    So sadly, because I knew they weren’t going to kill any of the Expendables or the girl, watching the explosive climax felt like watching someone play a video game, with bad camera angles, while using a God Mode cheat.
    Actually, the only thing I liked from the ending was that Stallone didn’t kiss the rebel chick at the end. If that scene had happened, I would of personally destroyed the rented DvD, damn the consequences. Also, the ending with Jason Statham babbling was confusing. What the hell was he talking about?

    So to sum up (from my long pointless rant) I absolutely agree with you Spoony! The movie failed in its use of story telling, action sequences, and use of characters. Usually, stupid action movies are fun to watch and you can turn your brain off.
    However, this movie fails in that regard and I will just have to be happy with their better made movies.

    • Anonymous

      I understand Spoony, and you as well, I too have felt… Disappointed.

      It was an okay movie, but with all this budget, all these people, all this talent… What? Just that? It’s like contemporary video games completely based on graphics where all the levels are painted brown because 12 years old believe it’s “more realistic” and not a thing more.

      The screenplay was bad, the dialog was bad, and it’s a shame because the actors were having fun, but it’s like they all went lazy and said “Oh, we have millions of dollars in special effects and all the best action movie actors, we don’t *NEED* anything else”.

      Wrong. Totally wrong. Had they not completely wasted all the budget and potential in this movie, I’d still be raving, instead… For how much I liked it, I was mostly pissed at how it failed to deliver what was REALLY there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Bleached.Soul Michel Alvarado

    I liked it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Bleached.Soul Michel Alvarado

    I liked it.

  • Anonymous

    I had one problem with the expendables… That the entire last action scene when they fuck shit up was shot entirely in the dark. The action was actually well framed/shot but not well lit wich pretty much killed the movie for me. 

  • Geoffrey Walter

    A Boondock hate reference again? Jeeze man, would you just review the friggin’ thing? :D I wanna see your opinion in DETAIL since you’ve brought it up twice (that I’ve seen) so far.

    • http://twitter.com/mindfullunatic Ryan Hill

      I think he should review that movie too, it seems to be a very polarizing one. I didn’t like it much at all, but there are a lot of people that absolutely love it.

      • Anonymous

        like willem dafoe only reason to watch it, the rest is garbage imo

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/P5FDMNYKRFKBB2ZXTBARKZXYWM erc

    I actually loved The Expendables.  It is one of my favorite action movies of all time.  Tons of ass kicking, explosions, guns, etc.  I have watched it a dozen times or so already.

    However, I agree with you on War – that movie did nothing for me.  Probably had to do with the fact that the last few minutes of the movie totally negated the first 90 minutes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sledge-Sparrow/100000740518777 Sledge Sparrow

    Expendables had no soul. I’m sure the actors had a lot of fun making it, I just wish I’d had some watching it. It couldn’t seem to decide if it was going for a modern gritty deconstruction of the action flick or a balls to the wall piece of 80s lunacy so ended up doing nothing well. I could have done with dropping all of the Expendables from the film apart from Statham, Lundgren and Rourke. Everyone else seemed to really be going through the motions for the money and the lulz.

  • Senna4ever

    “The more I think about it the less I like this film.”

    Cos you are thinking about it.
    It’s not meant to be “thought” about, it’s a dumb action flick.

    It put me in mind of the old Cannon straight to VHS action films of the 80′s…but with added gloss.
    I do think the cast was a slight let down. I mean you have Sly, Arnie and Bruce together at last after decades of waiting…and they just stand around for a couple o’ mins talking. Pointless.
    This should have been the Heat of the action genre.

    I do like this film for what it is and what it is, is a dumb action picture. What it does it does well enough.
    But yes, it could have been “better” with the cast there.

    I do hope the sequel does ramp up the action between the titans…cos that is what we want to see. I want to see Arnie and Sly throw down in a one on one bare knuckle fight.

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