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Vlog 6-5-11 – X-Men First Class

Spoony | Jun 6 2011 | more |

Does First Class break the X-Men curse of horrible, horrible movies? Could a worse actress be inflicted on the series than Halle Berry?

Anonymous

I hear the reason why Stan Lee made the X-Men mutants was because he couldn’t use radiation for origin story fodder.
Anonymous

I hear the reason why Stan Lee made the X-Men mutants was because he couldn’t use radiation for origin story fodder.
http://twitter.com/stevethefish76 Steve The Fish

If you’re having headaches, you should quit the Diet Pepsi. That fake sugar leads to headaches and memory loss. Do some research on the Net.

Switch to unsweetened iced tea or something if you’re counting calories.

http://www.facebook.com/njmartinelli Nicholas Joseph Martinelli

Can’t stress this point enough. Hell, I have to check EVERY gum and soda I might enjoy because my stomach reacts violently with aspartame and most other artificial sweetners, and it takes less than a fourth of a bottle of Diet Green Tea to start the upchucking.

Non-sugar replacements actually encourage increased calorie intake, not the least of which owing to the fact that sweeteners are usually hundreds of times more sweet than sugar, and also that the body doesn’t register the taste as an indication of having ingested something.

It’s good tasting, but it doesn’t satisfy your body, is what I’m saying. When I started buying Mexican-imported Coca-Cola w/ sugar, I barely drink more than one 12oz bottle a day. It’s smoother, and my body doesn’t hunger for it after one drink.

http://www.facebook.com/njmartinelli Nicholas Joseph Martinelli

I’m going to see this movie on Tuesday. As a ’60s genre buff, I was pumped for the setting, and from this and MovieBob’s review, I’m PSYCHED OUT OF MY FUGGIN’ MIND!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7I4JJKK6NNKL7GZBGKYPLOT7KE Dan Chaulk

I wonder how much worse that temperature would be if it was also extremely humid. Or is it any better? I live in northern Ontario and at our hottest (pretty hot, actually) we tend to be very humid and I hate sweating while doing nothing in the shade. Okay I just checked and we only get up to 92-ish F but it’s so hard to breaaathheeee….

http://www.facebook.com/njmartinelli Nicholas Joseph Martinelli

Humidity makes a MAJOR difference as far as temperature does. Ironically, when it’s humid, it’s actually much more difficult to maintain one’s temperature because your sweat cannot evaporate into the air.

In dry areas, while you will dehydrate quickly if you aren’t careful, it’s actually much easier to work in hotter temperatures because you CAN sweat effectively, as the moisture will evaporate, taking the heat with it.

In 2006, I went to Philmont, NM to hike for two weeks, and while I TRIED to get a tan (keeping hydrated), even going as far as not using sunscreen, I neither felt as hot or got burnt, and I can get major burns when it’s summer in PA.

Now, in Philmont, it only went up to around 80-90 degrees at most, and I’ve had to suffer in 100 degree heat elsewhere, and it’s brutal regardless of humidity.

http://www.facebook.com/ianmorency Ian Morency

i thought the first 2 x-men movies were good but the 3rd one and wolverine origins sucked…

Anonymous

I agree, also unlike Spoony I grew up loving the X-Men! Good stuff though Spoony.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Shane-Jones/692156502 Shane Jones

I remember the shoes way in the back, called “4d shoes” where it had like the hologram picture on it.
http://www.facebook.com/peter.barrowman Peter Barrowman

Good Film, best of the series
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

I think the reason for including some of those glaring inconsistences is because the movie-makers wanted to seperate this film as much as possible from the first couple of movies, while still making them familiar. If that makes sense. It’s kind of just short of a reboot by kind of tweaking the continuity enough that you stop equating it to previous, poorly recieved material.

http://www.facebook.com/njmartinelli Nicholas Joseph Martinelli

^^^^^^^^^^THIS…

is what JJ’s Star Trek reboot needed to be, and should have been by all rights.

Instead, Abrams delivered a mean-spirited, dead-on-arrival, cash-printing monstrosity that saddens me as a person.

Abrams, take fucking NOTES.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

You don’t like the iEnterprise, bro? *Laughs* Actually I’m not a fan either. Karl Urban as Bones was the one glimmer of enjoyment I took out of that movie, but that’s just me.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

You don’t like the iEnterprise, bro? *Laughs* Actually I’m not a fan either. Karl Urban as Bones was the one glimmer of enjoyment I took out of that movie, but that’s just me.

Anonymous

This is probably the worst in the series. The two leads were fantastic but really it’s down there with X-Men: The Last Stand.
Renaissance_nerd

A movie Spoony liked? Quick call hell and get the temperature!
Renaissance_nerd

A movie Spoony liked? Quick call hell and get the temperature!
http://www.facebook.com/orinbishop Orin Bishop

Wow, I’m retarded. After you mentioned the kangaroo court joke, I sat there for several seconds trying to figure out what Reb Brown had to do with kangaroos.
Anonymous

Was anyone else thinking that young Professor X is actually the new XII Doctor in disguise?
http://www.facebook.com/phoelscher1 Patrick Hoelscher

thanks for bashing the shit out of the real steel trailer. its so fuckin silly…incredible.
agreed. this was the best xmen movie by far.
Anonymous

Spy Kids 4D?!?!?! I bet it’ll have Blast Processing!!!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

Super FX graphics!
Anonymous

Wow. Finally a movie that adds the dimension of TIME!

… Wait a minute.
Anonymous

FOUR DEE?!?!

http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Rosenbaum/100001387887487 George Rosenbaum

I feel you Noah. I’m in the middle of Texas, man.
http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Rosenbaum/100001387887487 George Rosenbaum

I feel you Noah. I’m in the middle of Texas, man.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MTFZ3MDRIRICR5ZFNUEEKECX7E Steve

I take Spoony’s review more to heart than the supposed 87% RT rating this film has.

Anonymous

So, basically, since Spoony flat-out said that he liked the movie alot, you’re saying that the 87% is justified, right? Then why are you saying you value his opinion more than the majority opinion when his opinion itself backs the majority opinion? I’m not sure I completly follow your logic, here.

Or are you just saying “fuck all the people that liked this movie, Spoony liked it so that’s all I care about?” In which case, ah, ok then, I suppose. :P
Anonymous

So, basically, since Spoony flat-out said that he liked the movie alot, you’re saying that the 87% is justified, right? Then why are you saying you value his opinion more than the majority opinion when his opinion itself backs the majority opinion? I’m not sure I completly follow your logic, here.

Or are you just saying “fuck all the people that liked this movie, Spoony liked it so that’s all I care about?” In which case, ah, ok then, I suppose. :P

http://www.facebook.com/korny1684 Andrew Rosenquist

101 and humid as hell in San Antonio :/
Jonathan Fields

Nice Vlog as usual. We’re expecting 100+ in NJ later this week. You may want to have your equipment checked though, your voice was popping the whole time, and it is really noticeable on headphones.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kinnane/52803296 Michael Kinnane

Went into X-Men thinking how bad it was going to suck and prepared myself for in-theatre riffing and was very surprised by the fact that I actually gave a damn about the characters.

My only problem was that I knew who HAD to survive based on my limited comic book knowledge. “Oh Mistique and Azazel, they both have to survive to fuck and make Nightcrawler.”
http://twitter.com/AmazingUploader The Amazing Uploader

105? In sweden we have about 77 and it’s unbearable! How the hell do you manage 105?! Geez… If we got 105 degrees in sweden I would so kill myself.
Anonymous

January Jones was just a vacuum on the screen. Halle Berry however actually did damage with her… *finger quotes* “performance”. I’ll take null space over pain and suffering any day.

Personally, I really liked FC along with the first and second movies. The third and origins don’t exist in my book.

And Magneto’s plan in part 1: to turn world leaders into mutants so those in charge would be more inclined to direct policy in favor of the mutant population (and thus themselves).
Anonymous

You nearly said “the X-men movies are terrible people” and I so wish you had.
Anonymous

You nearly said “the X-men movies are terrible people” and I so wish you had.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Robertson/509527036 Matthew Robertson

Hey Spoony, if you haven’t already, you should cut down on the soft drinks and stick more to water. Seriously, stick with it for three weeks and you’ll notice a world of difference. In my case, water became my favorite drink. Next to beer and jack and coke.

Note, you will go to the bathroom more often.
http://www.facebook.com/DRMProd David Martínez

Yeah, if you keep drinking soda, or anything besides water for that matter, you’re not doing yourself any good. I have headaches too, and believe me, water makes the difference!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Mandie-Graham/518585122 Mandie Graham

Especially Diet soda, i dont know about anyone else but i get migraines when i drink lots of sugar substitutes like what are in the diet stuff

http://www.facebook.com/kelsey.lehr Kelsey Lehr

Sadly, Stan Lee made them mutants so that he wouldn’t have to give us a reason why they had powers. Lee even said it himself, X-Men was one of his more lazy stories because he didn’t want to give a more in-depth reason for their powers.
http://www.facebook.com/kelsey.lehr Kelsey Lehr

Sadly, Stan Lee made them mutants so that he wouldn’t have to give us a reason why they had powers. Lee even said it himself, X-Men was one of his more lazy stories because he didn’t want to give a more in-depth reason for their powers.
Anonymous

I think your reaction to January Jones was a bit excessive. Sure, she was bad, but not “oh God, make it stop” bad– and at least they never try to “develop” her “character”, like they did in EVERY SINGLE ONE of the first three X-films for Halle Berry’s atrocious Storm (in the first film, she has a scene with Senator Kelly; in the second, with Nightcrawler; and she just doesn’t ever go AWAY in Last Stand). Bryan Singer should have cut his losses and recast her in the second movie. Preferably with an actress.

But I’m glad you found an X-Men film you can enjoy; if it managed to sway you, nothing can stop it now! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Anonymous

I think your reaction to January Jones was a bit excessive. Sure, she was bad, but not “oh God, make it stop” bad– and at least they never try to “develop” her “character”, like they did in EVERY SINGLE ONE of the first three X-films for Halle Berry’s atrocious Storm (in the first film, she has a scene with Senator Kelly; in the second, with Nightcrawler; and she just doesn’t ever go AWAY in Last Stand). Bryan Singer should have cut his losses and recast her in the second movie. Preferably with an actress.

But I’m glad you found an X-Men film you can enjoy; if it managed to sway you, nothing can stop it now! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
shotgun12810

Click here if you want to see the 18 acting expressions of January Jones.

http://i.imgur.com/6JuxT.png
http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Mc/100000152293904 Eric Mc

Well the JJ chick wasn’t that bad for a chandler with tits.

But they did shoot their whole load in that ending.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A6K7YCIIY2FMYHGBRFEFLB7L6I Chris

Great review, man. Can’t wait to see it. Remember to bring a jacket to LA, it is COLD here
Anonymous

Honestly I didn’t mind January Jones’ performance all that much in that she really seemed like an embodiment of her own power, a shiny lump of carbon (with cleavage). Now of course I could be justifying it, but regardless, she didn’t bother me nearly as much as Mystique, who gave me a few face palms more. Maybe I was just used to the idea of the character being pretty much one dimensional, but she seemed to totally act against the age that they were all supposed to be and seemed like a drama queen high schooler, in the way she would randomly get all flustered over nothing, instead of a 20-something year old who had spent a long time with one of her own kind. And the “mutant and proud” line wore very thin after the first time she referenced back to it. She was smokin’ hot though, especially in those period outfits, and aside from just some individual moments, she really wasn’t that bad

And aside from all that, I definitely did enjoy the movie a lot more than X3 or the small bits I’ve seen of Origins. The SFX were all very nice and I also really liked the camerawork and costuming. Magneto’s jazz hands when first trying to move that big dish were quite funny though.

Also, Beast really screwed the pooch with Mystique, especially after SHE kissed HIM. Oh my fucking god, how would you not just sweep everything off of a lab table and get it going?
http://twitter.com/phanboy_iv Ben Leggett

At least in Arizona it’s a dry heat. The Deep South sucks this time of year.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697087306 Darryl Schaldach

I liked this film as well overall. I also felt they did a good job with Xavier and Eric’s friendship.

I didn’t like a couple of things though. May contain spoilers.

First for my idea of cheese in the film, I thought Banshee using his voice to find the submarine was kind of lame. Sure sonar uses sound but it’s a bit more than that. As a side note, how did the US and Russians not notice this sub? That would have been a hot zone for detection on both sides and I think the “norms” relaying this info would have made more sense (and would have saved money for more effects somewhere else ;). Stuff like this tends to pull me out of the film, I don’t need full realism but you can’t just do anything :P.

Next I found the Russians and Americans teaming up to kill the mutants they just found out existed and just aided them in averting a world disaster being nearly impossible. We’re essentially given a 10 second clip of them quickly coming to this agreement. This was simply convenient for the plot which I think they wanted to end on a certain note, which leads to my next point.

The ending felt rushed. Like they had to get certain story elements set up and in place for the next film when I actually think they could have handled Eric and Xavier finally becoming enemies in another movie. Bacon was enough of a villain to defeat for this film and they did a good job throughout the film foreshadowing Eric’s feelings on mutants and the philosophical rift between him and Xavier.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Schmidt/1043467958 Mike Schmidt

4D!?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Schmidt/1043467958 Mike Schmidt

Isn’t the 4th dimension time? So this movie must have a stupid time travel plot… I’m guessing.

Anonymous

Possibly, could be that.
Yet it’s a movie, and all movies ARE in 4D anyway, haha
http://www.facebook.com/people/Juha-Keranen/1004118273 Juha Keränen

time travelling would require the 6th dimension. 4th dimension is just the so called 1st dimension of time, so it’s just a point in time.

http://twitter.com/UserGoogol UserGoogol

NO NO NO! Spacetime does not work that way.

Dimensions are a coordinate system. Which is to say, in three dimensional space, if can pick an origin and some axes and you can can represent any point by three numbers and it behaves nicely. (With “nice” glossing over many mathematical properties.) Similarly, in four dimensional spacetime, you can pick an origin and some axes and represent any moment with four numbers. Modern physics says all sorts of interesting things about the structure of this four dimensional entity, such as that it can be “curved.”

Also, the distinction between space and time doesn’t come from there being three of space and one of another that are clearly distinct, but that line segments in this four-dimensional entity can be distinguished as space-like or time-like. Basically, a time-like path is one where it’s possible for a physical object to travel the path without travelling faster than the speed of light, and a space-like path is one where it can’t. (The whole point of relativity is that you can consider frames of reference which are moving relative to other frames of reference and the physics still works out equivalently, and this is basically the same as deciding what direction you want your time-axis to be pointing in.)

Now, the curvature of spacetime does not mean that it’s “bending” in a higher dimension. A useful example to think of is Asteroids. If you keep on going in one direction, you eventually loop around to the other side. (Mathematically, this is equivalent to the surface of a donut.) That doesn’t mean that the game screen is curving around in the third direction, it’s still just a grid of two numbers as far as the computer is concerned, but these two dimensions are enough to manifest as curvature. In relativistic physics, things get more complicated, but it’s still this basic idea. (String theory posits even more dimensions, but it still doesn’t work out the way you think it does.)

Therefore, space travel in principle is perfectly fine with just four dimensions. You just need a loop in spacetime where if you keep on going forward in time you end up looping back into the past. Scientists aren’t really sure whether such a loop could exist in practice, but it’s an idea they’re willing to consider, and it doesn’t (generally) involve some sixth dimension jumping into the mix.

http://twitter.com/nomad1114 matt wenke

I agree with a halfway decent story,but…the “students” could just as easily been replaced with the cardboard standups from the theater lobby,for all the character they brought.beast looked like a too tall care bear,x3 at least did a good makeup job for kelsey grammer.and the ending was way too rushed,you didnt get the feel of the xavier/magneto years of friendship.shoulda have him stay a good guy till the sequal at least.and the worst crime i thought was somehow making mystique boring…..how do you do that!
Anonymous

You know? I think you and your brother should make this an actual show! You and your brother review a movie and do an unedited Siskel and Ebert!
Anonymous

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Anonymous

Here is a perfect example of how different people vary so wildly on the subject of film (and any medium in general). While I found First Class acceptable and the pros outweighed the cons, I was far from loving it, and it’s certainly not the best in the series.

That brings me to my second point. I had no idea you felt so strongly about the original X-Men films being terrible. I’m actually a bit surprised you found them so deplorable. The third one, sure, but the first two with it? Spoony is the first person I’ve ever heard say he hated them.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Wells/519519675 Michael Wells

I went into this movie, expecting to hate it a lot. Oddly enough I found it was ok, a hell of a sight better then X3 and Origins. I actually liked the visual for Emma’s Diamond Form, which compared to Origins was billions of times improved. Her character when she was introduced was exactly what we got, she was a bland one dimension cleavage fest that was it.. So it made sense.

Now Shaw they fucked up a real bunch. I got yelled at no less then four times every time he used his powers out of context with his comic counter part I would say, I thought quitely “Thats not how his powers work!” but apparently I was saying it rather loudly.

I hated the ‘Dead-Bro-Walking’ with Darwin because he seemed like he would be an interesting character later in the movie. And who the hell played Banshee because I kept thinking it was Ron from Harry Potter.. was it? (goes to look.. nope was not him) Of course the concept of Havok being older then Cyclops, as well as being old enough to potentially be his father was weird.

But over all I loved the story a lot more hen I thought. And I did find myself going.. Xavier listen to Magneto you fool!

But from the comics and TAS and even Evolution to a point that Mags and Xavier do work together again many times after Magneto says he wants to rule humans. So it’s possible to work that in well, show them being good friends but on opposite sides.. conflicting ideals and so on. I did hate the whole “With us or Against us” bit so early in a potential new series of movies.

I was hearing mixed things, I was hearing both this is a Prequel or a Reboot… no idea why.
http://www.facebook.com/ztfreeman Zachary Freeman

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned, but from everything I’ve read X-Men First Class is a reboot, not a prequel, thus all those inconsistencies between this movie and the other 4 X-Men movies are null and void.

I hope like hell the upcoming sequels to this stick to that path and continue to be as good, there’s a lot of mileage here.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Wells/519519675 Michael Wells

I heard the same, but when you go to the Wiki page for First class it says prequel which is odd. All the articles if you google it says Reboot.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YSCLRXL7D5BW35LWFEOZSMWTV4 Eric

As much as I enjoyed this movie, I really think a lot of people tend to gloss over some of the truly bad points of this flick.

January Jones gave enough of a bad performance that any fan of Emma Frost, as a character, should abandon all hope right now for any and all movie adaptations of her. She came off as a blonde floozy, completely lacking any and all menace, which is inexcusable for the main villain’s right hand woman…nevermind the fact that it’s Emma Fucking Frost. This is not something I chalk up strictly to bad acting, but how the character handled herself in each situation. Immediately after encountering Charles and Erik, turning into her diamond form to avoid Xavier’s telepathy, there is no fight. She is promptly tackled and choked into submission. I avoided mentioning the bad acting, because Spoony basically covered that.

Darwin dies and his friend Angel goes off with his murderer immediately after witnessing it. This does more than just play out a shitty trope, this opens up at least a couple of plot holes. Kevin Bacon adamantly goes throughout this entire movie spouting how, “We don’t kill our own kind.” and he abandons this to kill the black guy? It makes the good doctor a hypocrite and shows an unwillingness to stick to his own beliefs, which is bullshit. He had that much power and Darwin’s death served no purpose other than to violate the antagonist’s principles. It’s an even bigger issue when you think about what could’ve been done had Darwin survived being force-fed that energy disk and Kevin Bacon had just walked away with a knowing smile on his face. It could’ve served to reinforce just how masterfully he could manipulate the energy he absorbed and just how deep his knowledge of mutation went, making him even more of a threat and helping to show just why other mutants followed him. It also could’ve shown just how resilient a mutant Darwin was. But no, Darwin dies right in front of Angel and she goes with the murderer, even though the guy just showed how little he stuck to his own principles, so now the all white cast of x-men can continue on after a scene like nothing happened.

Anyone notice a distinct lack of characters? I don’t even think tornado guy got a fucking name drop throughout the whole flick. Instead of doing something daring and fleshing out the bad guys, we just have to endure the scene where Magneto breaks the ineffective right hand woman of the guy he just spent the whole movie trying to kill out of a CIA facility, or something. It’s not really made clear where she is. Her being there isn’t even an issue, as it’s pretty clear that she can leave whenever she wants to. But no, we need more scenes of Charles and Hanks being dicks to Raven without her telling them what assholes they are. I would’ve liked to hear what Azazel is all about, cause he looks like the devil and seems to enjoy it. I would’ve liked to see tornado guy actually be a threat instead of getting buried under a piece of the ships hull after easily getting his ass kicked. The only villain that even seems to put up a fight is Azazel and Kevin Bacon, but I digress. Tornado guy doesn’t even have any personality, because it doesn’t look like any was written for him. I guess Emma joined up with the doctor because she’s a floozy and doesn’t know any better and Angel’s a stripper, so she doesn’t know any better despite the recent murder of the friend that just tried to protect her.

This complaint is a little less rage-filled, but in every incarnation of the x-men that I’ve seen it’s always been hinted at that Magneto and Professor X knew each other for years before going their separate ways. Just after killing the man that’s haunted his dreams for years, Magneto decides to immediately follow in his footsteps by going murder-crazy. Granted, the navy tries killing them, but given Magneto’s power over magnetic fields this is a stupid stupid and ineffectual idea. Throughout the movie he is shown to be a very angry man, but this is more towards the people that wronged him early in his life and the focus of that rage is now dead. To me it just seems that they went too far too soon with Magneto ready and willing to shed so much blood when he has the power to easily stop anyone from dying on either side. He babbles on kind of incoherently after accidentally crippling charles and then leaves and then we see him in that red cape. The change happened so fast that it’s like they NEEDED to get him in that red costume for the next movie.

The red costume is also a dumb idea. Given the time this takes place, wearing a red costume like that wouldn’t really make people think “mutant and proud” so much as they would “communist” as tensions between the US and USSR would still likely be running high. I complain about this, because Magneto always seemed more of an intellectual to me, like Charles in that sense and that he was gifted with great power as well. Instead what’s portrayed is some weird cross between Wolverine and Magneto.

There were more flaws with the film, but the ones I touched on were much more glaring when I actually thought about them and made the movie much harder for me to enjoy. Despite this, I did manage to enjoy X-men: First Class as well.
Anonymous

I knew what kind of rant you were about to go into with January Jones because you used the same tone of voice you use when explaining something horrible about women in wrestling. “Uh oh, he’s going into Diva-Mode!”

In other words, I knew I was about to have a lot of fun. I LOVE “Diva Mode”, heh heh! Ah, Diamonds: Pretty to look at, but still retains the personality of a lump of coal. Better off talking to a flower. At least a flower has potential to grow.

As for me, I don’t like most of the X-Men movies. I’m forgiving to the first one because because it had time and budget issues (that goofy-toothed Rogue can still go to Hell), so I mostly just dislike it rather than “hate” it. I had some fun with the 2nd one, but it was mostly too mindless for me, and I refuse to even talk about the third film because *I* won’t stop rambling about it, and I refused to ever see Wolverine Origins.

But I do kind of want to see this movie, though I’m such a tightwad, I’ll likely wait for video, but I’ll see it. It seems that I should at least have fun with it. I think now, because of the first three movies, hell, because of the first TWO, I’m simply burned out on the whole X-Men thing. I know there’s crap, I know the movies are mostly just a mindless special effects light show, and they brought me to such a low point that I really have nowhere to go but up, so this is actually the *perfect* time for a new X-Men movie (prequel, reboot, whatever) to help pick me up.

Though if any Marvel Movie is going to be made, I would REALLY love to see NextWave. Something that can serve as a fun, sarcastic self-parody with a bunch of “nobodies” (when Tabby/Boom-Boom/Meltdown/Morenamesthanadamnphonebook is the most widely known character, you know you have a deliberately and hilariously goofy roster lined up!) being jerks and just having a fun time; a comic movie where being campy and goofy is a *good* thing.

If I could see Fin Fang Foom in purple underpants on the big screen, I’d pay to see it in 3D! I’ll pay MORE to see it in 4D! Hell, throw in 4th-wall breaking Deadpool and I’ll pay to see it in Pool-O-Vision! Throw in some Rob Liefeld jokes and I’ll even go to a midnight screening! It would be an honor to be one of the first to see the world record holder for most pouches used in a movie!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jakob-Heugenhauser/100001231405910 Jakob Heugenhauser

I hope you are making some money, because I DO LIKE SOME PEPSI NOW! ^^
http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

I DETEST the first four X-Men movies. X1 was boring and contrived to all hell, X2 was monumentally idiotic, X3 was a trainwreck of stupidity, and Origins: Wolverine was excruciating. Oh, I don’t hate the movies because I’m a comic book fan (been reading comic books for 20 years). I expect there to be changes as the movies and TV shows are re-imaginings of the comics (which is a good idea). But I also expect them to at least resemble the source material in terms of premise and characters. And each movie ruined the characters, especially Mystique (who happens to be on of my favorite Marvel characters).

But First Class? First Class was blew my expectations for the franchise away. I adored it. Everything was great. Could’ve done with a little less CGI. Yeah I’m a CGI hater. Other than that it was fan-damn-tastic.

Anonymous

Mystique was just SUCH wasted potential. They took one of the most conniving, manipulating female villains and (predictably) turned her into cheap, empty sex appeal. Well, I guess we still have the 90′s cartoon and even Evolution for better representation for the character.

Although Rebecca Romijn was hilariously memorable on Conan O’Brien when promoting the movie. Her impression of her action figure’s karate chop had me laughing to the point of pain…as opposed to the movie itself causing me pain. I wonder if Rebecca ever learned that her character didn’t have to be naked. Poor girl.

I’m also not one of those fans that bitches and gripes because “they didn’t make the characters just like the comics” (though I often have people bitch at *me* because they think that’s how I am), but just do the characters justice. They don’t have to be “right”, just convincing. That’s all I’ve ever asked.

Just don’t dissect and remove the essence of the character, turning them into shallow cardboard cutouts and don’t give us Baraka with frickin’ laser beams and a sealed mouth and call him “Deadpool” (that’s the reason I refused to give Wolverine Origins a chance. I don’t appreciate being kicked in the balls like that.)

Even the Australian version of The Punisher wasn’t this bad. And I feel REALLY dirty having just said that!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Max-Beattie/1587183387 Max Beattie

I know what you mean about Mystique (I’d better, it’s exactly how I feel) and, well most of the characters in the previous movies. Mystique, one of the most dynamic, and thought provoking characters in Marvel was turned into a naked blue chick for 13 year olds to ogle. Oh, of course we have the excuse that she wants to embrace her appearance so she’s a nudist. Please. Don’t insult my fucking intelligence. You wanted naked blue titties in your movies, that’s why.

Oh, and don’t even get me started on “Deadpool” from XMO:W. Deadpool my ass! God. I’m not saying he had to break the fourth wall every other line or be aware he was in a movie, but Christ almighty, give me A merc with a mouth!

Anonymous

I’m with you 100% on bad actors in really good movies. I didnt at all feel turned off or distracted by Jones’s Wooden performance simply because her character not only looked Spot On like Emma Frost, but was presented very well within context setting of the film.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Juha-Keranen/1004118273 Juha Keränen

I bet it’s just virtualized 4D.

Anonymous

It’s a stupid pun. Spy Kids 4 in 3D = Spy Kids 4D.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Juha-Keranen/1004118273 Juha Keränen

You just made my day. :)

Anonymous

I aim to please. ^_^

http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-L-Brinklow/1002979555 Adam L Brinklow

I really don’t think that the X-Men are a very effective metaphor for being gay. In a modern context, the best analogue is actually being Muslim in America.

In these X-Men stories there are always various political voices who argue “This is a threat to our security, we need to protect ourselves from these people at all costs,” and then the voices on the other side say “Yes, but we can’t violate the rights of the many to protect society from the actions of a few.” And then of course you have the extremists among the persecuted group who really are as dangerous as critics claim, balanced out by the moderates who are in the impossible position of countering extremism, preserving their public image, protecting their own safety, and promoting their own rights, and must never allow themselves to slip up even once lest they promote the negative stereotype they’re trying to curb.

Not much of that makes sense in the context of being gay, but it reads like it was written to order for the post-9/11 Muslim American experience. If not for the fact that the material is decades old, with even the first movie dating to 2000, I would assume that it was just that. Maybe people push the gay thing (which only barely makes sense in context with the material) because it’s an older social and political issue that spans more of the time that the property has existed, but I also wonder if it’s maybe because hanging a lantern on the Muslim thing would invite more controversy than the franchise really wants.

Anonymous

The thing is that the X-Men under Claremont were meant to be all minorities. Essentially anyone who was born different. Everyone sees something different because that’s the point.

Anonymous

Spoony, that preview picture looks like you’re having a really embarrassing conversation on the phone.

“Yes, I wuv you too, Snookiewookums.”
Anonymous

I always found the X-men’s lack of “proper” origin stories made more sense than other super heroes. I find it pretty implausible that a bunch of heroes and villians would emerge around the same time with completely unique origins. There’s a limit to how many fantastical excuses i can accept. In X-men they all have one single excuse. But that’s just the concept of it i think works. I don’t know how it’s applied in the majority of the media.

I agree that this is the best of the X-men films, but i don’t really dislike the previous ones. I think Lindsay and Nella nailed what was good and bad with the movie.

http://twitter.com/247sTroyB Troy Bennett

well outside the fantastic 4, the x-men were one of the first ‘ensemble’ super hero comics. As a writer, you can save yourself a lot of time by giving your entire team very similar origin stories, at least to start out, and then you can flesh out their histories as time goes on.

Some call it laziness, I call it trying to meet a deadline.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Wells/519519675 Michael Wells

I never had a problem with the mutant = powers because in the comic the TAS and Evolution they showed mutants with just mutations like skin is blue but that was it or looked like a rat but had no other powers so it sort of balanced at a point. And of course if your interested in the paranormal like myself Telepathy and Telekinesis have been around for years and years long before the comics came out, so that was a simple yet effective answer.. its in your genes.

I am surprised no one has mentioned the Mutant and Proud phrase to a gay rights saying of Gay and Proud or any other Pride group…
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2YVYGICXMQW7OXJJ6RHJ2EPQ54 MiguelC

“What was Magneto’s plan in the first one?” Are you fucking serious? Did you even watch the fucking movie? He explained his plan pretty fucking clearly: he wanted to make every senator who were against mutant rights to become mutants, the very thing that they hate, and have them being more understanding of them. If you didn’t catch that, then you either 1) slept during that part or 2) didn’t watch the movie at all.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

I think what Spoony was referring to was that Magneto has used “science” to somehow discover a form of energy that turns humans into mutants, built a machine fueled by the power to control magnetism (and not magnetism itself, since he could have just plugged an electromagnet into his machine), somehow deduced that Rogue is capable of stealing people’s mutant powers long before she demonstrates the ability, and decides to use her to power the device so he himself wouldn’t be killed by it.

His whole plot, however simply explained, relies on contrived, flimsy plot devices that literally pull themselves out of thin air to give the movie a plot, and I’m with Spoony on calling bullshit.

http://twitter.com/JJJMMM1 JM

Hah, I feel like I know Spoony better than he knows himself.

At 3:45 he says “I’m going to keep this short” and I immediately called bullshit. I checked the length of the video and it’s ~30 minutes.

Back to the video ->
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Adams/100000590812952 Matt Adams

Just wait for the 125 degree weather
Mark Miasnikov

If you want to stay hydrated I recommend drinking water, not Pepsi

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesse-Melat/1331583316 Jesse Melat

Not that anyone cares about the truth, but soda does not dehydrate you. It doesn’t hydrate as well as it does with water(mostly due to …not being totally made of water, go figure), but…your body isn’t rock-stupid. If it needs more water, you’ll still be thirsty, and it will direct you correct that until it gets sufficient H20.

No one has ever _died_ of dehydration from drinking soda and foregoing water. Soda doesn’t leave deposits of anything in your colon, it doesn’t damage your liver, it doesn’t destroy gravity. It’s not the healthiest drink in the world purely because of its high calorie count, and (perhaps marginally) the caffeine–and in that case it’s still healthier than coffee.

And don’t post any “caffeine is a diuretic” shit, please…..it’s a diuretic, but an extremely mild one–it’s not going to destroy gravity, and the primary source for almost all the of the “soda kills you” crap is spam.

And…before this happens: If you drink salt water to hydrate yourself, yes, you will die. you will also never stop being thirsty during the whole ordeal. Sorry for the rant…I just get disgusted sometimes at how many people don’t give the human body the credit it deserves.

Honestly I think (other than his heart thingy) the only think wrong with Spoony is plain old insomnia. Get some sleep, Noah. : )

Anonymous

Tch, tch. Clearly you must be a shill for the evil soda corporations! Just like those lying soda-death-denialists at snopes.com.

I can’t tell you how relieved I am to see everyone *else* here has complete faith in spam and conspiracy websites as a source of medical advice.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesse-Melat/1331583316 Jesse Melat

It must be a wonderful thing being a conspiracy nut, actually—just think about it–you get to always be right because everyone who disagrees with you is _obviously_ a disinformation agent in the employ of the illuminati.

I’ll take the processed foods nutballs over the 9/11 Truthers any day, though.

http://twitter.com/FolkPunkGaze Rhys Laverty

Dude, dude – Hugh Jackman was good?! WTF?!
http://whywasibanned.com TomeOne

Sodas are the last thing you want to chug if you want to fight off headaches and/or stay hydrated.
Anonymous

I believe Magneto’s plan in the 1st movie was to turn all the world’s leaders (who were having some kind of world peace summit on Ellis Island) into mutants using a machine based on movie science, which would somehow obliterate mutant prejudice forever. I’m not defending the X-Men movies, nor am I saying it was a good or coherent plan, but it’s not a hard plan to understand if you pay attention.
http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Guthman/500543755 David Guthman

Spoony,

I completely agree with you 100% on everything you said. I was just as skeptical as you were going into that movie. I was ready to hate it too. It blew me away. I’m so happy that someone finally fukn figured out how to properly produce an X-Men flick. I REFUSE to watch the other ones. My only wish now is that the inevitable sequel, has a lot less January Jones in it. Then we are solid and good to go.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Doran/100000584164074 Adam Doran

im a inside nerd where the sun burns but goddamn inside my house is hotter than outside and that fucks my world up
Anonymous

Because of you I am addicted to Pepsi now. I’m for real.

Hope your migraines get better and looking forward to your next video.
Anonymous

Because of you, I am addicted to Pepsi now. I’m for real
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=588415594 Krista Wallace

this might sound bad, but I hope you get another shitty hotel room at E3 this year, your video about last years room still makes me laugh
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1813118664 Reza Stephen Lustig

I might have watched this movie, if I could be arsed enough to actually get up and DO SO. I’m really tired of comic book movies, so I probably wouldn’t have liked it anyway.

Aside from that, I notice that Spoony hasn’t done one of his trademark “angry” reviews in quite some time now. I hope we get one soon, because they were probably some of the best entertainment I’ve pursued online for years now.
http://twitter.com/Darkelf98 Samanthia J Robinson

my brother saw it and hated it and he’s a comic book geek fan and he liked the orginal x-men movies, we live in south dakota it’s cold here 247.
Anonymous

I’m happy to see you’ve ended this Vlog on a positive note instead of finishing with a critical attack against the movie.

Other than “You didn’t ask, So I didn’t tell,” Im shocked you forgot another obvious symbolism on racism; which was Mystique saying “Mutant and Proud.” And I swear, I actually said to myslef while watching (SAY IT LOUD, I’M MUTANT AND PROUD!!!)
Anonymous

I’m happy to see you’ve ended this Vlog on a positive note instead of finishing with a critical attack against the movie.

Other than “You didn’t ask, So I didn’t tell,” Im shocked you forgot another obvious symbolism on racism; which was Mystique saying “Mutant and Proud.” And I swear, I actually said to myslef while watching (SAY IT LOUD, I’M MUTANT AND PROUD!!!)
Jacen

So you are going to hydrate yourself…with a Diet Pepsi?
Steven Hawkings

Sebastian Shaw is in X2, though. He is is seen talking to Beast on the TV. Did he die in this movie?
Anonymous

Diet Pepsi will only make your headache worse. It is one of the worst things to shrug off a headache.
Anonymous

I’ve got to admit, when I first saw that they were making another x-men movie, I groaned… and then I saw the preview. That preview got my attention and earned at least enough good will to give it a chance. I’m pretty firmly in the apathetic to the whole x-men group. I don’t particularly hate them, but I’m not a fan either. I just don’t care. ( spider-man on the other hand I hate, but that’s mainly due to over-saturation ) Either way, it’s good to hear such a strong review from you, Spoony. I’m definitely going to have to give it a go when I’ve got a bit of time.
Anonymous

after the opening in x2 with night crawler it went down hill for me. and well nothing else in any of the 4 movies could touch it. I actually like the 90s cartoon series more than the comics and their first origin story was for Jubilee. I agree though the biggest problem was they just threw in characters with out any character development. And really lots of characters are just born with powers like super man or almost any other alien super hero but its the character that has an origin not the power. Superman has an origin, just like Cyclops has an origin, cyclop’s origin story is weaker cause he is part of a team but it has it’s own depths. Funny enough his dad and son have a more interesting origin story than he does. Good writing establishes characters in doing so you establish their motives, likes, dislikes, and ultimately it fleshes them out into something you can identify with or understand. Too many movies have lazy writing these days its hard to watch many of them. I prefer watching anything prior to 60s were the free love hippies all hopped up on LSD and angel dust started creating surrealist nonsensical movies. Yeah I mainly blame hippies for everything wrong with the world today, but in all seriousness there were a lot of great movies made in the 80s early 90s too. I don’t think today’s problem is hippie glue sniffing its more just people in charge in Hollywood who could careless about these stories and just see dollar signs from droves of movie going nerds that go see this garbage so they can rant about it on the internet for half an hour. oh wait sorry spoony not throwing stones :D
http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Jesse/27708921 Brian Jesse

Long Live the Fighters! (over in scottsdale, myself ;P)
http://www.facebook.com/people/Niles-Butler-Walsh/100000213456693 Niles Butler-Walsh

You should check out “Hunger” if you like Fassbender, he’s truly incredible in that, easily one of the best performances of 2008.
Anonymous

I never realized how bad of an actress January Jones was until I saw this movie. Betty Draper is emotionless, cold, and somewhat terse, so I never really noticed before.

Anonymous

Isn’t she supposed to be a stony, frigid and downright evil bitch?

Seriously, I hate that fucking character so much.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HV532DVELT35S6BH2MJ5MDYNAA Kevin

My experience with the X-Men film series has always been shaky. Saw “The Last Stand” first, and got really bored. Went back and watched the original “X-Men” and “X2″, and for some reason, felt really hokey to me. Magneto’s plan in “X-Men” serves as an example for the hokiness – I understood what his goal was, yet the science of said plan was so bizarre in terms of logic that the lack of effort in providing explanations to the audience really puts me off. I know it’s a series featuring mutants, but if no realism was provided for its ground rules, asking the average viewers to accept non-existent/severely weak reasonings points to underdeveloped script.

One good example of what realism should be:

Remember the awesome Nightcrawler fight at the beginning of “X2″? Well, it turned hokey as soon as I started thinking “As instantaneous as his teleportation skill is, why would Nightcrawler risk getting shot while fighting in the middle of a crowd when he can just drop them from high above? (Swear to God that was in my mind) Guess what? In “First Class”, Azazel did just that, which was really groovy.

For the ones who claim to enjoy the first two flicks a hell lot more than “First Class” due to the former’s characters being more true to form, I might understand your reasoning if they were actually competently directed films. For me, “First Class” has outdone the other X-Men movies due to a far more focused and coherent story. I’ll admit that I’m not well versed in X-Men comics, but being huge fan of Batman comics, the changes made in Nolan Batman films, no matter how drastic from the source material, always maintained the very essence of the characters, and that, for me, was totally worth it to be open-minded for experiencing. Same goes for “First Class”: Magneto becomes Professor X’s nemesis, Professor X ends up on a wheelchair.

I think the only legit elephant in the room is the continuity errors. I feel that the audience “me included” as a whole are confused as to whether “First Class” is a reboot or a prequel. I’ve found interviews of Matthew Vaughn confirming the film to be a prequel, but the word “reboot” was also being thrown all around the blogosphere. Being confused and all, I decided to trash any previous knowledge and figured that I’ll just sit back and start fresh. Result: Blown away. Even if the audience at large is fond of the previous movies, dismissing “First Class” only for continuity errors may do themselves a really big disservice because there are far more pluses than minuses to this film.
http://twitter.com/SolidGoldCEO SolidGoldCEO

Ive always found watching X-Men movies emotionally akin to watching any other action film through a cold grey drizzle. The trailer for first class didn’t look like that much of a departure from the last 4 X related offerings and since the best iv heard from people I know is “Its not as bad as Wolverine or Last Stand” I’ll probably wait to see it for free on TV if there’s nothing else on at the time.
Anonymous

Fun fact: Real Steel is based on a Richard Matheson short story. The man behind the novel for ‘I Am Legend’ and the ‘Button, Button’ story with the ridiculously incredibly radio play and Twilight Zone episode. ‘Steel’ itself also had a Twilight Zone adaptation.

Not that it doesn’t look like Rock’em Sock’em Robots still, but just so you know. There’s a chance this movie could turn out to be really awesome, but at the same time there’s a chance it could just be a terrible movie that’s fun to watch because it has fucking Hugh Jackman and robots boxing.

Oh, and Danny Elfman’s composing so there’s that to look forward to.
Anonymous

Fun fact: Real Steel is based on a Richard Matheson short story. The man behind the novel for ‘I Am Legend’ and the ‘Button, Button’ story with the ridiculously incredibly radio play and Twilight Zone episode. ‘Steel’ itself also had a Twilight Zone adaptation.

Not that it doesn’t look like Rock’em Sock’em Robots still, but just so you know. There’s a chance this movie could turn out to be really awesome, but at the same time there’s a chance it could just be a terrible movie that’s fun to watch because it has fucking Hugh Jackman and robots boxing.

Oh, and Danny Elfman’s composing so there’s that to look forward to.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Omnikus-Schlotter/100000373849732 Omnikus Schlotter

I love it when you say you’ll keep it short and then you ramble on for 30 minutes :) Keep it up, sonny.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661037953 James Enri

WHY SPOONY?! NO

Xmen first class raped the story and characters so badly… sigh.

http://www.facebook.com/shantal.figueroa Shantal Figueroa

He already said he hated the comic books, so changing everything about them would probably be a great things for people who really aren’t Xmen fans.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661037953 James Enri

WHY SPOONY?! NO

Xmen first class raped the story and characters so badly… sigh.
Anonymous

You know Spoony, if you liked this movie you really should check out the new X-men anime made by Madhouse.
Now before you say anything, yes it is anime but it has a very western look to it (and is well animated with good voice acting) and it is, as far as I can tell, a completely original story (I have seen a lot of the x-men cartoon but far from everything I imagine).

It is basically an adult version of X-men, meaning that the story is quite dark, the violence feels more real and there are some seriously creepy (sometimes downright scary) moments.
The villains feel threatening and are resourceful, especially the mad scientists.

It still has those things that fans will recognise, like Cyclops and Wolverine arguing (it does not go on long though), Cerebro, the gay/racist metaphor (although it’s toned down a bit, their fasion sense is better for example) and a few other things (like wolverine being a total badass in one particular scene).

The only X-men in it besides Charles Xavier are Wolverine, Cyclops, Beast, Storm and 2 more.
One of those is basically Jubelie’s replacement and she is a far better character in just about every regard.
Better ability, better backstory, better introduction and more credible personality growth.

The second one is Emma Frost and here she is so much better here then in First Class, in fact she is probably my favourite character in the show so far.
I know that can be hard to believe, I really do, but I can’t really say anything more without spoiling her backstory and other story elements, so you’ll just have to see it for yourself.

so far 9 episodes have aired and subs can be found, check it out and it might suprise you (it certainly suprised me).

Anonymous

I agree with this. The anime version, especially the first episode surprised the hell out of me. I basically went into thinking it was going to be horrible but for some reason Madhouse did an excellent job with it.

Cameron Brannan

Could I recommend a movie (not to review) called Casshern? I can’t say whether you’ll like it or not but I found the villain in that movie to be fairly sympathetic, be warned though, it’s got kind of a “WTF Anime Ending.”

Anonymous

The makers of Casshern are probably the only ones who can make a Warhammer 40k movie, because they could make it grim-dark enough.

Seriously Casshern Sins was the grimmest, darkest story I’ve ever seen, and I liked it a lot.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

Dark as it is, grim as it is, I don’t think a Japanese team could accurately create a Warhammer 40,000 story. Grim and dark are only part of the Gothic Horror theme that is a part of W40K. I’m sorry but the styles of 40K just don’t gel with what’s popular among Japanese creative teams, and I’m not even saying that in relation to the more comical stereotypes involved.

You can argue it a lot of ways, and there’s probably plenty of good reasons why I’m wrong, but at the very core of it, 40K comes from a British cultural mindset and the underlying aspects of 40K would be lost in on a Japanese cultural mindset, the same way Japanese aspects are lost on Western audiences.

And if you wanna get silly about it, just imaging a Dreadnought power-gliding across the floor. I think the visual speaks for itself.

Anonymous

I know, it’s just a joke between me and my friends that no studio can make a 40k movie grim-dark enough

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

Well you might be right there. I liked the Ultramarines movie, it did a great job with the gothic horror aspect, but it could have been a lot better.

But when you think about it, does any medium fully capture Warhammer 40,000?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753345456 Octo Seven

What Spoony is saying about people not being able to look past January Jones in this film is exactly why Watchmen was ruined for me, by the asshole who played Silk Spectre. I could not get past such an abysmal, wooden performance used to portray a fairy deep and essential character.

Anonymous

Deep and essential?

What exactly did Silk Spectre do that was at all important to the plot?

I guess she symbolized Dr. Manhattan’s ties to Earth, but she could’ve been replaced with a picture and the story wouldn’t have changed.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753345456 Octo Seven

The product of a rape between two of the Minutemen, essential to Comedian, Dr Manhatten, Night Owl, she also busted Rorschach out of prison. What isn’t essential about her? The fact she’s a woman?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753345456 Octo Seven

Have you eve read the comic? lol
Anonymous

She didn’t do anything essential for the plot.

She slept with Dr. Manhattan and Nite Owl, which I guess offers character development for both of them, kinda not really.

She broke out Rorschach with Nite Owl’s help.

Seriously, she did jack in that comic. She was a boring non-entity in the comics and she was a boring non-entity in the movies, not a big deal, Emma Frost however, is important. And casting that human mannequin January Jones as her killed a really important and complex character.

http://twitter.com/Nachtglanz Kati

being german I have to say that I usually don’t like when german is spoken in american movies because it often times is done so bad… but the german spoken in this movie was the best I heard so far by non german actors…. the two nazis magneto killed in that one bar were definitly german you could hear that…. but even the non-german actors did it very good
Anonymous

This was a terrible X-Men movie, but it was an alright Action Flick.

They fucked the canon so goddamn hard in that movie it isn’t funny. They pretty much got everything wrong, Imma nerd it up right here.

Sebastian Shaw is not a Nazi, and has zero interest in creating a mutant empire that he rules. Sebastian is just a corrupt rich guy that has a decadent secret society full of mutants. The Hellfire club has a whole lot more than four guys in it too. Plus, Azael isn’t really a mutant, he’s a demon lord from another dimension that fathered Nightcrawler with Mystique.

Mystique didn’t know Xavier as a child. I understand they want to bring her in the story, but she makes more sense as Magneto’s partner, considering they’re both European. Also, why is she a whiny bitch? Mystique was Magneto’s right hand women and never gave a fuck about humanity or belonging, she cared about Magneto and Destiny, and on occasion, Nightcrawler.

Who was Tornado Guy? Why was he there?

Banshee wasn’t Irish? Why?

Why the fuck did Xavier have that accent? Why didn’t they show his step-dad and his step-brother. This all foreshadows to the Juggernaut.

Why is Moira MacTaggert working for the CIA, and why does she need to go to Xavier about mutants, she is the foremost expert on mutants, plus…she’s Scottish.

Magneto as a Mossad agent was fine. But could they have made his fall to evil a little bit more subtle? And also he never wanted to rule over mankind with an army of mutants, he wants a separate place for them, he’s Malcolm X, not Hitler.

Angel? Why? What was her purpose? Who is she?

Havok? WHY? Do we really need a terrible, douchey actor that fucks up continuity (he’s Cyclops’s younger brother) in this movie?

Darwin? His power is that he survives everything…why wouldn’t he have survived that. Considering in comic he’s developed the power to teleport when facing the Hulk.

I thought a lot of the characters were useless and was disappointed that the final battle kinda blew. It wasn’t a bad action movie, but as a X-Men movie it didn’t work. The other ones sucked too, so whatever.

http://www.facebook.com/shantal.figueroa Shantal Figueroa

Wow even when I am not on TV tropes I run into your caustic reviews. Hahahaha.

Anonymous

Didn’t know I was that memorable.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Evolutionary-High/1836707697 Evolutionary High

Look man, I’ve been reading the X-Men since the mega-issue when Storm,Wolverine, Colossus, Nightcrawler joined team all the way to the Deadly Genesis to Messiah Complex.

This movie, was heads and shoulders above all THE OTHER GARBAGE X-MEN movies.

Yes, they didn’t follow the comic book but the spirit was there. The characterizations were there.

This was the best comic movie since The Dark Knight.

Period.

Anonymous

It was a fine movie and I understand why they wanted to do their own thing. Having to make a movie for a franchise is difficult, it restricts what you can do as a writer and not following canon probably made the movie better. Because the movie didn’t follow canon it probably got more critical and commercial success.

But just because I know why they did something doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to point out everything they got wrong.
Anonymous

It was a fine movie and I understand why they wanted to do their own thing. Having to make a movie for a franchise is difficult, it restricts what you can do as a writer and not following canon probably made the movie better. Because the movie didn’t follow canon it probably got more critical and commercial success.

But just because I know why they did something doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to point out everything they got wrong.

Anonymous

–i’m not gonna comment on the video, because there is nothing for me to add to what you have said, because I have not seen the movie. But I do need to address your health.
–I love coming here, but you seem like your sick all the time, and it kinda bugs me. you say it’s about heat stroke, which I can accept as an exceptable excuse, because 105 degrees is really hot and …leads to heat stroke. Here’s what I don’t get….why drink soda? Every time I see one of your reviews, you have at least a soda can or bottle somewhere on screen or in your hand, and not only that, DIET soda also? In order for diet soda to be effective at not using sugar in their products, companies like Coke (and therefore Pepsi) switched to aspartame, other wise known as Nutrasweet. The problem with this is that consumption of this compound can leasd to damage in the liver, lungs, and even the brain. True, it takes large quantities are needed for major damage, but if you enjoy a diet coke or pepsi on a routinely basis, it is very likely to increase your chances of getting a MIGRAIN HEADACHE!!! So, Why have you taken to drinking a diet soda on a hot day, in ARIZONA, if you suspect you have a migrain headache?
—Just try this, stop drinking soda daily! You don’t need to eradicate it from your diet, but just drink a hell of alot less. I guarantee you that you will have less migraine headaches, and you will feel overall better.
–As to the video, you have convinced me to watch the movie, because all the other X-men movies sucked ass.

Anonymous

I thought the same thing when i saw him drink the soda.

http://twitter.com/Shadowfaxim Shadowfaxim

refering to the Spy kids thing, Does it still count as a reboot if it includes actors(in character) from the first set of movies? I noticed them in the trailer
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/BIAD3YBXA53OJW3TMXWA3LHHWE Jeremy

Spoony likes an X-men movie? Saaaaaaaaaaaay WHAT?!
Anonymous

Liar, it was 95 outside on the day you posted this and cooler the day before. My grandmother and I were comparing Fargo versus Phoenix on the phone the same day. It MIGHT get to 100 by Saturday. Don’t be a wuss.
Anonymous

Spoony, like others have said, i love your vids, you entertain the hell out of me. Now stop drinking the soda, and get healthy so you can make more :)

I’ll even add that I even enjoyed the soundtrack. Nothing special in it, but the BGM really fit the scenes well, i thought. As much as I dont care about hugh jackman, loved his cameo. And Michael Ironside can cameo every single movie ever made, imo.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5CIZLH6PIKAJLZQX6XQNHLFITU joshua b

I honestly think you are wrong on the Ice Queen. She was only somewhat beautiful, but was called the ice queen for a reason. So yeah.
http://www.projectharuhi.net Jon

“I’m gonna keep this short.”

Spoony, Spoony, Spoony. You should know better by now.
http://twitter.com/the_real_TRR Taylor Reitz

I really didn’t like this movie because it’s broken.
The villain in the movie has the ability to passively absorb, with limitless capacity, any and all energy that comes into contact with him. He then can expell this energy upon command in precise amounts. How the hell can he possibly lose? Seriously. He should have got the red nightclawler guy to teleport him to several nuclear test sites and absorb the energy from the explosions. And hell he’s essentially invincible as long as he’s conscious. Why doesn’t he just slowly walk around the world and destroy everything? It’s not like there is any possible way to stop him (so long as he’s wearing the helmet).
http://twitter.com/Zanza47 Michael St.Clair

That Arizona heat is exactly why I moved away from it. I’m slightly regretting that because there’s no Bookmans here in Washington state. ;__; I miss that store so much!
Anonymous

It’s been almost 100 here in North Jersey every day for about a week. Most of the country is experiencing this heat!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Stacey/597275249 Ed Stacey

i used to get bad migraines about 2-3 times a week, Every week. I had surgery on my sinuses for a deviated septum and I haven’t had a migraine since! Check in with your ear nose and throat dr. see if you have what i had.
http://www.facebook.com/jbhaslach John Barton Haslach

Personally, I don’t mind the X-men movies. I like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen. The thing that holds me back from liking them all is that they are all about Wolverine. I honestly think that Wolverine, though admittedly cool, is cheaper than Superman and overrated, by the by, it killed me as a longtime Superman fan to call him cheap. I have yet to see First Class but I am excited.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Fiedler/100000718118395 Ryan Fiedler

Did somebody say forty?
http://twitter.com/MsMeiriona Celeste LaScala

So you’re going on about the whole understanding and to a point agreeing with the villain thing and being good when a movie does that, without making you scream “yeah, genocide” and I wondered, Hellboy II had that same thing going for it. (I’ve been rewatching that movie a lot lately)

A lot of movies have that for me, of course, don’t get me wrong, but I tend to side with the villains out of habit a lot because the villains aren’t just re-acting. They’re doing something.

But when you have that balance like Magneto does, and always will, like Nuada does, where you have to see that the world has to make a choice between the two sides, and both are full of innocents as well as villains. Like HBII said, which holocaust do you choose?

It really hits home, that kind of message, if it’s done in a good way, and not with a brick. Because in the real world, nobody thinks they’re the bad guys, you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s a fight between to sides, both of which think they are in the right.

When you have that, there’s a good story. A powerful story.
http://twitter.com/MsMeiriona Celeste LaScala

So you’re going on about the whole understanding and to a point agreeing with the villain thing and being good when a movie does that, without making you scream “yeah, genocide” and I wondered, Hellboy II had that same thing going for it. (I’ve been rewatching that movie a lot lately)

A lot of movies have that for me, of course, don’t get me wrong, but I tend to side with the villains out of habit a lot because the villains aren’t just re-acting. They’re doing something.

But when you have that balance like Magneto does, and always will, like Nuada does, where you have to see that the world has to make a choice between the two sides, and both are full of innocents as well as villains. Like HBII said, which holocaust do you choose?

It really hits home, that kind of message, if it’s done in a good way, and not with a brick. Because in the real world, nobody thinks they’re the bad guys, you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s a fight between to sides, both of which think they are in the right.

When you have that, there’s a good story. A powerful story.
http://twitter.com/MsMeiriona Celeste LaScala

So you’re going on about the whole understanding and to a point agreeing with the villain thing and being good when a movie does that, without making you scream “yeah, genocide” and I wondered, Hellboy II had that same thing going for it. (I’ve been rewatching that movie a lot lately)

A lot of movies have that for me, of course, don’t get me wrong, but I tend to side with the villains out of habit a lot because the villains aren’t just re-acting. They’re doing something.

But when you have that balance like Magneto does, and always will, like Nuada does, where you have to see that the world has to make a choice between the two sides, and both are full of innocents as well as villains. Like HBII said, which holocaust do you choose?

It really hits home, that kind of message, if it’s done in a good way, and not with a brick. Because in the real world, nobody thinks they’re the bad guys, you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s a fight between to sides, both of which think they are in the right.

When you have that, there’s a good story. A powerful story.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Angela-K-Kielian/750064457 Angela K Kielian

I just saw this movie and I gotta say that young Professor X kinda reminded me of Spoony. maybe it was the hair or the corny pick-up lines but every time Professor X cam on I thought of Spoony

http://www.facebook.com/shantal.figueroa Shantal Figueroa

Haha now I am trying to imagine Spoony with a British accent. :)

http://www.facebook.com/people/Angela-K-Kielian/750064457 Angela K Kielian

I just saw this movie and I gotta say that young Professor X kinda reminded me of Spoony. maybe it was the hair or the corny pick-up lines but every time Professor X cam on I thought of Spoony
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bruce-Kilkowski/583400802 Bruce Kilkowski

Honestly people, give Spoony a break on the Diet Pepsi. It’s his life, and he doesn’t need you telling him how to live it.

Anyhoo, back on topic. I’d say it’s most likely a prequel, given how much continuity is established with the first two films. It only majorly contradicts X3 and Origins. How is that bad thing? Also, that TV interview in X2 isn’t much more than an easter egg. In other words, it does not matter.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

We’re just Spoony’s concerned, imposing fanbase, is all. *Chuckle*
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICDHG7TLTN6JVK6JMK3TKQFXKQ Mike Wallace

We’re just Spoony’s concerned, imposing fanbase, is all. *Chuckle*

Anonymous

Huh, I have the same sort of light sensitivity, Spoony. It goes to 11 over here in New Mexico, to the point that if I walk a hundred meters outside in the daytime I end up flat on my back later with blood coming out of my nose.

I eventually obtained these excellent glasses that eliminate the specific wavelengths that screw me over. They were rather expensive and made in a lab somewhere and they have a bit of a dark red tint to them, but I wear them everywhere now. I’d be a lousy geoscientist if I couldn’t work in the sun. . . And of course, I suppose it helps that I was always a bit of a Cyclops fan.
imtheghostdog

Yeah man the movie was great the best of the X-Shit movies! “The Beast” was awesome!!! Magneto and Xavier was awesome too !!! By the way your audio was f*cked up!!! i kept hearing blkekekbkekkekeke
http://www.facebook.com/shantal.figueroa Shantal Figueroa

I agree; moreso than the other X-Men movies this movie focused on the characters that mattered, instead of focusing on WOLVERINE ALL THE GODDAMN TIME. A big seller to me was the fact that Wolverine wasn’t going to star.

This movie was great great great. Each character got their time to shine and show off their powers. This movie had some great action sequences and some great, sexy villains. In fact, the casting was pretty sexy all around. The characters were complex and HUMAN. Special mention goes to Fassbender as Magneto. Oh my god. He was fucking terrifying and sympathetic at the same time. Also, Fassbender spoke a little Spanish in this movie as well and a little Swiss or something?

I also had a cute moment, kinda watching Xmen. The dad next to me had to read all the subtitles to his very young son. I though that was adorable, but this movie would have gone over his head anyway since he was so young.
http://www.facebook.com/shantal.figueroa Shantal Figueroa

Also, for X-Men fans who didn’t like the movie: you have to remember that they aren’t making big budget action movies specifically for X-men fans, they are making movies so that millions of people worldwide can enjoy them. These characters have been around for what? 40 years or so? Things are bound to change.

As a Batman fan, for example, I love the Dark Knight movies so far. I love Batman the Brave and the Bold. I love even the incredibly silly silly Adam West Batman. They’re all different and entertaining in their own way. I love the comic books I’ve been able to read. Except for Frank Miller’s batman, of course.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jimmy-TheFish/100000139595167 Jimmy TheFish

Batman brave and the bold is unwatchable. I can watch any other batman Adam West, 90′s version even Batman Beyond but B&B is so terrible I hope it gets canned so they can make a better version.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Taylor/523378875 Josh Taylor

I agree, I started watching Brave and the Bold thinking it’d be something new and cool but it was just that lame Adam West rubbish. I see what they’re trying to do but they did it too well, I hated the Adam West stuff. I guess after watching Batman: The Animated Series and Justice League and stuff any other Batman cartoon or adaptation is bound to pail in comparison. I liked the Dark Knight and Batman Begins but I didn’t think they were without problems, humour was almost nonexistant and while I think the Joker was kinda cool I didn’t think he was a good Joker. He was a great villian but a horrible Joker.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jimmy-TheFish/100000139595167 Jimmy TheFish

SPOILERS

She wasnt that bad, how much emotion do you really want her to have. Lets break it down, she was sleeping with Shaw, a former nazi Doctor, and now a madman who wanted to start a nuclear war to advance the muntant race. After Shaw was killed and she was tortured, she decided to simply join Magneto.
Anonymous

Spoony. Playing a French priest.

Seriously, there NEEDS to be a video for this.
Anonymous

Spoony. Playing a French priest.

Seriously, there NEEDS to be a video for this.
http://www.facebook.com/eric.s.hardy1 Eric Spencer Hardy

So I think we can safely say we’ve found what General Katana is a General of! Am i right?
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJM4MMTC5C5UQXV4C55GZ6OOL4 Smaragdos

95% of the first class was an awesome movie….Awesome…The end though completely ruined it for me. I was expecting that in the end you would see the first glimpse of the fear on the mutants that were just revealed and a glimpse of the difference in values between Pr.X and Magneto. But for some reason they just cramped both aspects in full in the last 10 minutes without reasoning and it seemed ridiculous. And both characters were supposed to be comrades and friend for years before the became enemies. And it make sense because these are things that don’t happen rapidly. Racism and friendship being created and falling apart don’t happen so quickly. It did not make sense and it seemed so forced. The scene when the army shoot an the island was so stupid…Too bad until Bacon’s defeat i thought it was one of the best super hero movies ever made. Why spoil it like that in the end….
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MJM4MMTC5C5UQXV4C55GZ6OOL4 Smaragdos

95% of the first class was an awesome movie….Awesome…The end though completely ruined it for me. I was expecting that in the end you would see the first glimpse of the fear on the mutants that were just revealed and a glimpse of the difference in values between Pr.X and Magneto. But for some reason they just cramped both aspects in full in the last 10 minutes without reasoning and it seemed ridiculous. And both characters were supposed to be comrades and friend for years before the became enemies. And it make sense because these are things that don’t happen rapidly. Racism and friendship being created and falling apart don’t happen so quickly. It did not make sense and it seemed so forced. The scene when the army shoot an the island was so stupid…Too bad until Bacon’s defeat i thought it was one of the best super hero movies ever made. Why spoil it like that in the end….
itsthemod

http://samdevdiary.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/doc_brown-full-1.jpg
Y’gotta have the goggles if your gonna be a mad scientist.
itsthemod

http://samdevdiary.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/doc_brown-full-1.jpg
Y’gotta have the goggles if your gonna be a mad scientist.
http://twitter.com/Yadokingu Moritz

Spoony I love you more and more. I hated January Jones in this movie. Granted I also hate her in mad men, but there her blandness at least somewhat fits. She is supposed to be a brainless bland housewife that drives John Hamm to screw everything that moves (at least that’s how I interpret it to not go insane). But here she was supposed to be one of the most beloved Marvel characters. Thank god I basically know nothing about X-Men. If I was a fan I would probably on a murderous rampage right now.
Every time she came on in this movie I went “blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand” until she went away. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to stand her.
http://twitter.com/Yadokingu Moritz

Spoony I love you more and more. I hated January Jones in this movie. Granted I also hate her in mad men, but there her blandness at least somewhat fits. She is supposed to be a brainless bland housewife that drives John Hamm to screw everything that moves (at least that’s how I interpret it to not go insane). But here she was supposed to be one of the most beloved Marvel characters. Thank god I basically know nothing about X-Men. If I was a fan I would probably on a murderous rampage right now.
Every time she came on in this movie I went “blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand” until she went away. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to stand her.
http://twitter.com/Yadokingu Moritz

I have the same problem with saccharin(-sodium). It’s in most sweatened stuff. At least I am lucky enough that that’s the one sweetener that isn’t in coke or pepsi light.
Reacting to Aspartame ofcourse is REALLY sucky. That stuff is in everything that is not sweetend with sugar.

But yeah most of the time I jsut drink little normal coke. I’m lucky enough to live in germany here nothing has high fructose corn sirup, due to the fact that we have no corn, but much sugar.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Lone-Wolf/1071408198 Lone Wolf

As bad as Arizona is just be glad your not in Georgia. Take the sun and hundred degree temperature and add to that the humidity.

I don’t get the X-Men either. The X-Men as an allegory for any one oppressed doesn’t work. Many of the characters are in fact very dangerous, Rogue can kill people by touching them, Cyclops shoots lasers from his eyes constantly whether he wants to or not, Storm, professor Xavier and Magneto are very powerful and if any one of them put their mind to it could cause allot of damage and deaths. To make the allegory even worse they exist in a universe were magic is real, gods exist, cosmic rays can give you super powers, bites from radioactive animals can give you super powers, chemicals can give you super powers and if you can’t access those the technology exists to make powered armer.

If they focused on the mutants that were far less powerful the allegory would make some sense.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001131939949 McGinnis Dalton

Is it odd that I’m excited when Spoony likes -any- movie?
David Söderstrand

Apparently they’ve decided that this is a reboot. So the canon issues are no longer… well an issue. They wanted it to be a prequel at first, so that’s why they have all the nods to the other movies, but then they decided that a reboot would be better.
David Söderstrand

Apparently they’ve decided that this is a reboot. So the canon issues are no longer… well an issue. They wanted it to be a prequel at first, so that’s why they have all the nods to the other movies, but then they decided that a reboot would be better.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Collignon/100000084787504 Bill Collignon

Yeah, man, but it’s a dry heat! lol!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Evolutionary-High/1836707697 Evolutionary High

Ok, I will comment on Spoony’s complaints about the X-Men comics

- X-Men doesn’t make sense in Marvel. I agree to some a certain degree. I always thought X-Men should have had their own comic line and be separate from the Marvel universe. But then again, I would then never have seen the wonderful interactions between Magneto, Wolverine, and the Avengers. I always thought it was weird that teams like Fantastic Four, The Avengers, and other Marvel super-heroes are just loved by the public but the minute a mutant shows up, the public changes and starts discriminating and lambasting. I never understood how anyone can even tell the difference between a random hero and a mutant. It’s like they have these detectors going off in their heads that warns them of mutants nearby? Some of the mutants look no different from anyone in the Avengers, never understood how they can tell. There were Mutant prison camps built in Genosha, if a random Avenger or Asgardian were thrown in there…how could they freaking tell that he’s not a mutant?? It’s funny how Spider-Man is more of a mutant than some of the actual mutants. But the public seems to have a freaking list as to who’s who. I also think that it was weird that most of the X-Men has almost NO interaction with the actual Marvel World. Only a handful like Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto, Beast, would be actively engaged in the rest of the Marvel universe. Fantastic Four, Hulk, running into those guys would be no surprise. But you rarely see guys like Mr.Sinister, or Gambit, or Mystique, Multiple Man, Forge, Iceman, Nightcrawler really running into other Marvel guys. I just always thought that was strange.

- And Spoony’s second comment is just way off. Characters don’t have origin stories? Just about all the X-Men mutants have origin stories. They either have their own comic that will tell their origin story or it’s told somewhere else just not in the main X-Men comic.

http://twitter.com/ScourgeXLVII Peter Wolf

That’s not entirely true, about mutants being hated, while other Superheroes were loved… For most of the 60s, Mutants weren’t hated, and they were just mistrusted, about to the extent of Spider-man (remember that the Daily Bugle’s tirade against him was once listened to). In the late 60s, it got a bit more hated, but the X-men got bad ratings, and nothing was really resolved, as the book was essentially reprinted for about half a decade. In the 70s, they began to up the mistrustedness of mutants, but they still weren’t hated too much, though it was sometimes a plot point. The X-men were hated somewhat, but that was mostly deserved, for all the collateral damage they caused. In the 80s, mutants went from being really hated at the beginning of the 80s, to tolerated in the late 80s, coinciding with X-factor going public as mutants, and saving manhattan from utter devastation from Apocalypse, and shortly after, Demons, and Madyline Pryor. In the 90s, Mutants were really hated, and everything got 90s-ized, so it got over the top, and never really went down to its prior levels, and by the “no more mutants” it was about halfway between what it was in the 80s and what it was in the 90s, by them being hated somewhat, but their existence and their actions were tolerated, so long as they didn’t step out of line too much. I don’t know where it is since House of M, since I haven’t really kept up with the X-men since then (It was like One More Day for me; I just couldn’t pick up another X-book after that), but I doubt they’re hated, except by Stryker and other Extermination-types, just because there aren’t enough of them to have the “your neighbor could be a mutant” or “your son could be a mutant” danger. But for the most part, until the 90s, mutants and other superhumans were about the same in public opinion. In fact for a long time in the early 80s, the Avengers were somewhat mistrusted, for potentially being mutants who lied about their origins, but that stopped after mutants were trusted again, and was never touched on after.

Anonymous

Hmm gotta disagree with you on this one Spoony. I just found First Class kinda dull. True Michael Fassbender and James McAvoy were pretty cool, but not because they were Prof X and Magneto. They were awesome because they were Fassbender and McAvoy.

Agree with the January Jones though. I could have lived without her.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Gaia-Safa-Lintschinger/1652762167 Matthew Gaia Safa Lintschinger

I compare this movie to batman begins and the incredible; its “I can’t believe its not connected” films. Its superficial prequel that gave itself enough room to side step the previous films. I would like to see them go and do a full “Dark Knight”. I want to see another period piece for the X-men series continuing in the 1970s or 1980s getting into the human/mutant conflict and bringing back a new cast fore Iceman, Cyclops, Angel, Jean Grey and Beast…..play this new franchise as an alternate earth history. Maybe this way we could finally get some sentinels for a 3rd movie
http://twitter.com/RoppongiCoffee Gabriel

I really like the movie! Did not entirely see the original movie series, so I was not expecting much!

I agree, a fantastic script and an outstanding cast!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nathan-Ellis/100002419726549 Nathan Ellis

i loved first class because of it’s chris claremont style sincerity to the comics and the realism it had to gain over the years, since wolverine origins i knew you hated the x-men. but are the origins of hero’s in the marvel universe really that good? radiation, aliens, and godliness are the only 3 origin explanations for any hero. halle berry and mystique having her dignity literally stripped from her in the comics was bad. but honestly, how is magneto’s plan more illogical than the jokers? it’s actually less selfish. Erik went through the holocaust as a jew and as a mutant is a violent activist. jackman invented the modern perception of wolverine in those movies, x2 was awesome, the third made me furious and i try to forget it. but the exaggeration of mutation in the comics is no more far-fetched than spider-man getting arbitrary and beneficial spider powers. i love spider-man also though. the x-men was Americas anime, it was stylish and was smart far less than it was thick headed and action packed. but it is still loveable. also the same director of the first movies wrote first class so i think you’re picking fights. read the grant morrison or joss whedon runs and tell me you still hate them.
Anonymous

I actually loved the series.

and technically it’s your opinion that they are all bad. Some people think they are great.

X1: Magneto’s plan is to turn the world leaders into mutants, therefore ensuring that they will pas pro mutant laws. he just doesn’t know his weapon will kill people. Ian McKellan was also genuinely great (his whole “land of tolerance” monologue to rogue was well delivered and wolverine’s explanation of why he was a raging hypocrite were good). The acting was good by and large.

X2: Again, Action scenes were phenomenal (the mansion attack was great) and stryker was a genuinely effective and chilling villain (I mean he commits treason to make an excuse and lobotomizes his own son.). Brian Cox was also a solid actor. Magneto’s prison escape was also fucking awesome (I mean he ripped the iron from the guy’s blood. that’s pretty sweet.)

Wolverine: stupid but as long as you ignored that it was pretty fun.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AL6ADN5J3UXVHHOSRGNDM7XBCI realslimshadowen

I loved this movie.

And the Wolverine appearance was better than the entire Wolverine movie.
Anonymous

Ack, I hear you about the migraines.. I’m the same way XP

o.o looks like I’m seeing this movie..
Anonymous

It was a small mercy that January Jones only had around five lines in the whole movie.
Alejandro Barberis

Will I come up as too anal if I bitch about Villa Gesell not actually being near any mountains whatsoever?

I mean the writers could have just googled it up! If they had, they’d have known it’s a beach town on the Atlantic coast…

and yes, I’m Argentinian :P

http://www.facebook.com/people/Paula-Andrea-Cassé/100002549044928 Paula Andrea Cassé

I’m Also Argentinian, and yes. It was a bit of a disrespect from the movie makers to do such a thing. For what I’ve been told, the director didn’t like the sound of the word “Bariloche” so, they ended up in Villa Gesell.
Also, what I disliked was the language discrepancies. Mostly, they spoke like Spanish from Spain. And We don’t say Cabron, not really.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Paula-Andrea-Cassé/100002549044928 Paula Andrea Cassé

I’m Also Argentinian, and yes. It was a bit of a disrespect from the movie makers to do such a thing. For what I’ve been told, the director didn’t like the sound of the word “Bariloche” so, they ended up in Villa Gesell.
Also, what I disliked was the language discrepancies. Mostly, they spoke like Spanish from Spain. And We don’t say Cabron, not really.

Joseph Frank Perez

106º but with the wind it only like it’s 100º.

Glad I’m not the only Phoenix dweller who avoids sunlight during the summer. I tell people to stop complaining that LA is like 82º in July. Now I need just stop being broke enough long enough to watch the movie.

Magneto was right.
Anonymous

I hate to say it, but I think the X-men movies were really catering to the comic fans on this one. Okay, yes, we all hate what they did with Rogue in movie 3 (a few names got added to my “TO KILL” list on that one), and what they did with Wolverine-Origins I don’t even need to mention (all of you fans of Deadpool and Gambit out there feel my pain, I know you do), but seeing Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier, Ian McKellen as Magneto… you can’t kill that. There were some things in those films that are just… gold for some of us… okay, well maybe it’s just me then, but there were even moments in X-men Origins were you think “that was awesome” (Granted these moments were usually well-choreographed action scenes followed by me slamming my head repeatedly into something very hard at the next stupid thing, but still). I mean, even though they messed things around with making the Phoenix Jean Grey’s alter ego, I can even understand that (I mean, what else were they going to do? They can’t exactly put the Dark Phoenix saga on film), and it was pretty damn awesome to see her nearly ripping apart the fabric of reality.

However, none of those films, looked at alone as films, are really that good standard. They’re just not. As one time off action films they’re okay, but you can’t hold them up as good quality in themselves. Some stuff doesn’t make sense or is contradicted in later films (Sabertooth, natch), storytelling and characterisations had issues, and I mean Magneto’s “make them all us or kill them all” thing is kinda consistent with his character, but still his methods are just WTF. The best things in all those movies, really boil down to the starring cast (although there are some performances that were just… ouch).

So yeah, I wouldn’t put them on my top 20 any time in the near future. That said, there are some things you just have to smile at.

However, Jean Grey being dead, my hopes are… well… let’s say on the fence (YOU’RE NOT MEANT TO BE ABLE TO KILL OFF A PILLAR OF THE UNIVERSE!) Ahem. However, this review has tipped me over into wanting to see it now, and I’m kinda looking forward to it.

Anyway, if they picked up the class in this x-men movie, it may be because they’re pulling together the entire marvel universe (well, one of them) with the Avengers, and the last thing anyone wants is for X-men to look bad next to Tony freaking Stark!

Oh, and Spoony, the X-men did finally get an origin story in the Ultimate universe… in Ultimation. It was pretty fucking stupid.
http://twitter.com/FoxDie_Alive Charlie Robinson

i understand why you dont like the X-Men comic but it happens to be the same reason why i like it. origin stories can be tedious for me with this guy getting hit with a gamma bomb or that guy being a alien or radioactive this and experimentation that, daddy issues and money problems but X-Men is about characters who have evolved like any species does over time and have special powers cause that is what human evolution has lead to and face persecution from people who are naturally afraid of what they dont understand (although pretty much everyone in X-Men has gotten a origin story now) which i found refreshing when i started reading X-Men. really hard to argue with a comic that inspired a movie that is this good. what makes this a great film to me is why Spider-Man 2 is so great which is that it is a comic book movie for people who dont go to comic book movies. if you were to take out the action scenes, which no one would want too, you would still have a compelling movie because you have actors who are fanatastic at what they do while also taking the film seriously and a director/producer/writer who obviously has put alot of time and effort into the story. January Jones didnt really effect me a whole lot, honestly i kindof ignored her now that i think about it. X2 is still my favorite X-Men movie, but im pretty certain that within the next couple of years X-Men: First Class will be my new favorite once it gets over the nostalgia i have with X2. X-Men was ok, X-Men 3 was terrible, and Wolverine………Barakapool, ’nuff said.
http://www.facebook.com/SuperSunshine21 ダールダニエル

4D? 4D!!!

Liked the interaction/discussions between Xavier and Magneto, best part(s) of the movie.
http://twitter.com/ScourgeXLVII Peter Wolf

I remember the 4D thing… and everyone in the theatre groaned. I just had to facepalm at that, but I know that If I were that age, I’d have to see it.

Me, I’m a hardcore fan, and I had problems with it, but I realized that if I wanted what I thought I wanted, I’d have a movie version of the entire Chris Clarimont run on Uncanny X-men, and Basically, the animated series did that, and I disliked it, since it was too similar, and I realized that this movie was actually what I really wanted: not perfect on the continuity, but very good story, very good characterization. I would have liked Shaw to be more close to continuity, in terms of motivation.

I agree, January Jones was fucking awful, and I hope if and when they do a sequel, they replace her. And they need to do an actual continuity wink for her, by having her run the Massachusetts Academy, to recruit mutants for Magneto. The problem with having her be the reason that XMFC is the worst in their eyes, is that a lot of characters in the other movies were pretty bad actors.
http://www.facebook.com/michelle.brydon Michelle Brydon

Giving this a rewatch. When this first came out I had never seen January Jones in anything.. but then I saw “The Unknown.” And by god, I see what Spoony meant about her. She is truly a horrendous actress. She has a chronic case of blank-face and it looked like she was reading every line off a cue card. It just makes you wonder how she ever gets cast when she gives performances like this. Is it because she’s kind of attractive? There is no shortage of attractive actresses, you do not need to cast this blank slate of a woman. Ugh! Sorry, rant over.
Anonymous

I had watched a small documentary/interview thing, if you will, with Stan Lee in it talking about Xmen. He did say that that they were born mutants mostly because he didn’t really want to think of the origin stories for every character. lol. And I always imagined Xmen in its own little world apart from the rest of the Marvel world.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001359033124 Kalu Shakti Kundalini

Only movie i went to see in the theater this year! I’m watching the Eclipse review after this one; even though i haven’t seen it.. it’s personal for me :D

Yeah the Wolverine cameo was funny.

LOL 4D!?!
http://www.facebook.com/louisvillain Nick Hornung

The one thing I REALLY, REALLY liked about this movie was the weapon handling. It’s a small thing but I’m a big gun nut. When Fassbender de-cocks the 1911 as he walked off-scene that one time I almost wanted to shout out “OH DEAR GOD YES, FINALLY!” in the middle of the theater. The irony being that this movie isn’t centered around firearms or weapons at all..yet it has the best weapon handling of damn near any other movie I’ve seen. I don’t know if he was directed to do that or if he actually knew a thing or two about firearms (like not walking around with it cocked and loaded when you’re not going to use it).
It’s a small thing..but it made me extremely happy.
Anonymous

I like the part of the movie where Xavier and Magneto are playing chess on those stairs. I seriously want to see how they got there, how it was suggested. Did one of them ask “want to go to some romantic place where we can play chess and discuss matters”? Did they bring a chess board and go scout for neat locations to sit down and have a good time?

It’s got me so damn curious.
Anonymous

So who is worse Spoony, January Jones or Rosie Huntington Whitely? The answer? Shia LeBouef!
Nicolae Carpathia

FWIW, January Jones is AMAZING on Mad Men, primarily because she’s not playing a type of character she’s completely unsuited for.
http://twitter.com/RoperFDF Roper Fuentes

Jones is agonizing to WATCH!? Alba is agonizing to WATCH?! Sorry Spoony, but those moments are meant for your brain to turn into mush and just enjoy.
http://twitter.com/RoperFDF Roper Fuentes

“When you see the blonde, you’re in for the suck” LOL. “I’d buy THAT for a dollar!”
http://twitter.com/Sharpdresedkid Gabriel C. Maldonado

Actually, Ema Frost was the most accurate comic book adaption. A vapid momentum crashing, heat vacuuming, lifeless, vanilla, bland, waste of screen time. Face, heel, tweener, diamond or not, the character always sucked and I dreaded the day they gave her a plot critical role. That’s why she was ALWAYS in lingerie in the comics, because if she wasn’t, nobody would give a crap and now you know why. Not even movie magic could save her.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BRJ5ADRGYJ2G7WYFQAJBRFOVZU Joe

January Jones better do better in the next two movies or she dies in the second
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1841418511 Tom Tetts Hunter

spoony ur a great story teller :)
http://www.facebook.com/Marv4928 Zachariah James Von Anderson-S

Only real reason to ever like the originals? 3 words. Blue. Naked. Redhead. ‘nough said.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dallas-Parker/100000560731138 Dallas Parker

The thing about the reason that they’re mutants was because Stan Lee was tired of using radiation. Hulk=Gamma Rays. Fantastic Four= Space Radiation. Spider-Man=Radioactive spider. He felt like the readers were tired of seeing so much radiation causing this stuff.
http://profiles.google.com/likalaruku Allaiyah Weyn

Noah, get a Swamp Cooler. I had one when I lived in Nevada.

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