I support both you and TGWTG. I found you from the site, but became such a huge fan over the years. In fact, I check your site more often than TGWTG anymore. I will still watch both sites. I can’t wait until this is up. I am glad you are being civil about leaving the site. It was your right to blow off steam by saying stuff on twitter, and although I can see other ways around taking you off the site, at least your not going off on everyone and blaming them. You are still one of my favorite internet reviewers and I will never stop watching you. I hope most of the people you use to talk to are still your friends, including Doug and Linkara. That would be sad to hear but once again, I understand.

As someone who’s made a TON of stupid mistakes, depression related and just from being a general asshole, I’m glad to see your going strong.

FYI, dumping personal shit online may not be the first or best thing to cope with life problems, but for people with actual, clinical depression, being open about it (twitter or not) is infinitely healthier than not.

I hope to keep hearing from you.

looks like its gonna be sweet…..sorry bout what happened tho :(

Heck yeah I’ll watch! You take care of yourself and keep making us laugh like you have over the years. No need to be uncivil to anyone, but I was your fan first and it’s going to stay that way.

I just want to say Spoony you are one of my biggest heroes I always found you as the funniest member of TGWTG and it will be strange not seeing you on Channel Awesome’s website. You are the biggest reason why the Alone in the Dark review is my Favorite Nostalgia Critic episode and personally I have lost count how many times I have seen your Close of Bruce Lee and Highlander 2: The Quickening reviews, I just laugh my ass off every time I see them. I hope you go far in your adventurers and hope you hit all of your goals you are extremely talented and I don’t wish to see that go to waste. ^__^

P.S. On a side not my World of Warcraft character is named Thespoonyone after you haha.

Well, I regularly visit reviewer’s site (such as linkara or Brad’s site) for the fastest update, but it doesn’t mean I won’t miss ya and your crazy doc.

Other than maybe the first anniversary movie, I can’t remember when Spoony DIDN’T steal the show. He practically had a whole episode of Kickassia featuring him (as Dr. Insano), and he led a whole team as Gandalf in Suburban Knights. When Doug writes these movies, he always gave Noah a HUGE part in it.

If for some reason CA comes calling back, or at least becomes civil with TSE, Noah at LEAST deserves a cameo in the next movie. Hell, even Lordkat got a cameo last year, and some question whether he deserved it (I withhold MY judgement).

Despite all the jokes about them digitally removing you from this, I am glad to see that you remain in this. Personal crap aside, you are still one of the best internet reviewers out there and I look forward to lots more content from you.

Summer-ish? COME ON I NEED A DATE GUYS!

Just caught up with your recent departure. I wish you the best as your reviews and especially Counter Monkey, as they are my favorite videos to watch. And like the poster below me stated; private business is private business. I can read everyone’s thoughts and opinions regarding what led to your release, in the end, its just between you and Channel Awesome. Nothing more. I look forward to when you feel ready for make videos, until then, remember you are not alone in your trials.

Shit happens. Keep your chin up. Keep working. Looking forward to this and your other works.

I am in a near filmbrain state of excitement over this.

Spoony, I have always been a fan of your videos since the FF8 reviews, and though you have had some rocky times lately, I know things will get better, and you will return as Spoony the White. I can’t wait to see how the anniversary video turns out, as well as your Ultima 9 review.

Whether or not you return to TGWTG sometime in the future, I will continue to be a fan and wish you nothing but the best!

Wow I didnt even know that Spoony had left CA. Wonder what happened

Aww Spoony, Ok fine I will be civil. *Puts away his Highlander the Series Sword*

But in all truth I do respect that you didn’t go on a rant about CA when you parted ways. I will watch this because their always epic and I will support you in your last (Currently) adventure with TGWTG. I also will support people like Joe, Linkara, and Brad as well,.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what awesome stuff you’ll think of, now that you’re free from TGWTG. It’s time to kick ass and take names again, man! You rule, Spoony!

Im no longer watching ANY videos on TGWTG. Not because I support Spoony in this “war”, but because I have been banned after an actually very civil discussion were I gave only slight critizism.

Before that I was a member for two years, but fuck you guys.

Shit happens, we move on. Still gonna watch your stuff, Spoony. You’re not just a reviewer, you’re a brother Lets Player.

Spoony kicks serious bottom.The TGWTG crowd will rue dumping you.

Wow, I’ve been out for a little while and all hell breaks loose; what exactly happened anyhow? I hate asking but I can’t seem to get a straight answer from any place.

If this is the last thing Spoony does with TGWTG, I’ll be pleased. Personal stuff is none of our business but, I look forward to seeing how Spoony forges ahead in a post-CA environment. TGWTG has largely gone downhill and Spoony can, and will, I hope, do much better on his own.

But that’s really not the issue: the point is, whatever the truth of the matter, it’s none of our business, and I’ll continue to enjoy everything he does, with or without TGWTG.

Wow. I listened to Lordkat’s rant. Talk about one person the world could do without…

So some people say the break happened over a rant on twitter (loads of speculation out there)… but the Spoony one, flying off the handles, in a fit of rage, on the net? no fucking way, that doesn’t sound like him at all… apart from every fucking video he’s ever done.

I would like to know his thoughts on all the people are bringing up the depression as a reason for his actions? he didn’t seem depressed in his recent videos (but then again how could you tell), so it looks like he’s out of it for the time being (fingers crossed). however shit like that can really bring a person down.

Leaving CA doesn’t affect me as i watch his videos here but what does this mean for spoony? and what can i (as a fan) do to help in anyway? twitter death threats and assisted aggravated online suicide are optional :)

I’m still mad at them for letting you go, so mad in fact that i created a greasemonky script:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/137096

Which will remove all traces of Obscurus Lupa from the “That guy with the glasses” website.

Did the Spoony rant remind anyone else of the great Bill Hicks 1989 Chicago show?
Awesome, cutting, unrelenting force laying waste to the masses. A catharsis for the troubled soul, a cleansing of the pallet?
I was a tad late to the Spoony party – the closing months of 2010. It’s been a fantastic ride and balls stomping humor ever since.
If the Bill Hicks comparison holds water then the best is yet to come from the Spoonyone.
I can’t wait!

Looks like it’s going to be awesome! Can’t wait!

Also, on another not, wow, I managed to miss this whole incident. So sorry to hear about all of the turmoil Spoony, I’ve just looked into it and it seems like it was mostly…a lot of crap. yeah, I have to admit your comment to Jesu Otaku was a bit inappropriate but you both resolved it. Lupa seems like she was really out of order and it was nothing to do with her; also there were no repercussions for her, which is also unfair. It’s really a shame that you aren’t part of TGWTG any more but, in all honesty, I watch all of your videos here on your site so I’m just really glad that you’re still around Spoony because I love your reviews, they really crack me up (especially FFX and X-2 and Ultima and Prometheus…everything else!).

You are much loved Spoony and I hope you continue to entertain us with your rants for years to come!

The only people that lost my support in all this was Lupa, Pheolus (if thats not how the name is spelled I don’t give to cents either way), and LordKat. Everyone else seemed to be at least a bit Civil in all this, and it actually heighten my respect for a couple reviewers. And since I never watched those 3, My life is pretty much normal. Sad that it happened, but good to see that it’s not affecting professionalism where it counts.

So yeah, looking forward to your part in this! And a bit of a geek out but looks like CR is going to be in it too.

I am very excited about this even though I am a bit sad about the whole situation with TGWTG. We are only fans so we are only observers. I will always have a soft spot for Spoony. Hopefully everyone will move on, learn lessons and keep on going.

We still stand behind you, spoony.

Oh Spoony, you card!

Eh Good riddance. TGWTG is dead to me. I had almost stopped watching most of the videos on there anyway. Most of the only good videos are on Blistered Thumbs these days anyway. Which although is a spinoff, doesn’t have nc or his annoyances there. To be honest, most of the best videos are over there and go to TGWTG next day. I’m finding Heart of Gaming to be the best show on there (not really much of a video, more of a vlog really, of course Leon is probably the only one not screwed if a SOPA or PIPA variant ever does pass since he uses video material well past copyright).

They’re not going to replace you with a Photoshop green slug =( ? jkkkk I’m looking forward to this new beginning no matter where it takes you, if you’ll go back to doing things independently like before, you join a new company, or if you decide to take a different career path. We the loyal fans will still support what you do and endure the trails you have to go through! But please put some sort of news feed up. Viva la Experiment!

i called lupa a bitch and got banned lol but yeah, big up spoony! you’re the only reason i’ll bother watching this

You know, it is really frustrating that this entire TGWTG thing is being supressed whenever you ask about it. When did this become better to pretend it didn’t happen?

Well Spoony. You’re free… You’re completely free. You’re unplugged. a new man.

I hope you keep a good schedule for your work now that you don’t have the same deadlines with TGWTG. True fans know better to never judge you from the ephemeral nonsense you type on Twitter, but to the genius that emanates in your reviews.

If you wanna crank out a few quick Let’s Plays or Counter Monkeys, we will watch them and support you… because you do have a gift that most of TGWTG lack and they should recognize the amount of talent they just lost.

I just want to say my piece. Fuck channel awesome. If Spoony is going to get kicked out for something that everyone else gets away with because some newcomer is offended, then they can… gah I am still too angry about this. Don’t let the bastards get you down Spoony, we are still with you!

lol guys so what exactly happened between spoony and critic? i feel like i am out of the loop on this one. In any case i wish you da best man. There wont be any BETRAYAL!!! from me

I still like both TGWTG and Spoony. If anyone including spoony reads this… I know spoony is not a big fan of Lordkat but when Lordkat left TGWTG he started to gain popularity and started to do much better. Most of this was part of his own hard work. So spoony has some hard work a head of him but he can do it! Good Luck!

Sorry for even mentioning Lordkat at a moment like this I know it might be a sore spot but its a good example that good can come from leaving TGWTG it’s only one website after all. And I have never checked on TGWTG for Spoonyone updates anyhow. I always come here to check.

Um… what exactly happened? I must have missed something pretty serious.

I never cared for Lupa or Phelous anyway… their Reviews are only “Filler”! Spoony and the Cinema Snob are the real TALENTED ones, and i love that Brad “The Cinema Snob” said this in his Forum:”If it weren’t for Noah, I wouldn’t have my career now. I love the guy like a brother, he’s my friend, and I don’t turn my back on friends.”

Brad, you are a great man and a real Friend to Spoony!
Spoony, you are awesome!

1 Spoony “Reb Brown”-Review > 10 Phelous/Lupa/whatever-Review ^^

What exactly happened that caused all this strife?

Skimming over some of the comments, I’m glad I don’t pay much attention
to backstage drama. It’s real and it happens, sure, but if I try to make
it my business, I’ll go mad and waste my time. I’m just here to enjoy
Spoony lambasting bad movies and videogames. Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and Counter Monkey stories. I fucking love those. Anyways, best of luck and fortune to you, Spoony One.

Looking mildly forward to this. The last anniversary movie was kinda Meh..
Still it’s nice seeing all my fave reviewers (Spoony, Brad, Angry Joe, Lindsay, Kyle) have fun though.

I am pretty excited about the upcoming Cinema Snob movie though :D

I feel a bit saddened by that fact that you’re not with them anymore (mostly because I expect that means you won’t be in the 5th year special) but i trust you made the best decision for yourself

Meh, TGWTG is kind of a gay site anyways. There’s maybe two reviewers worth watching there.

I dont really get into the forums or twitter or anything else, so not sure i understand, or really even care about what happened with spoony. I just watch his videos, enjoy them, and then go about my daily life of crime.

Sorry about what happened Spoony. With any luck some good will come out of these events and things will be better. I enjoy your videos and look forward to viewing your future work. All the best.

I been coming to Spoonyexperiment.com for about 3 years, introduced me to tgwtg which i never really cared for. I have never read any comments so when i saw that he left tgwtg i was curious and read some comments below.
All I gotta say is WOAH.
Some very passionate people here.
When I first read “sexual harassment in the workplace” my first reaction was that spoony did some awful while filming that 4th anniversary thing or while doing some crossover.
THEN I come to find out it was some words over twitter. Twitter is the “workplace”. LoL.
twitter…..still cracks me up. I suppose when you’re an internet celeb, twitter can be the workplace, I’ll never have that luxury.
Also one more thing I found funny about all this (aside from anyone that likes spoony clearly hates women and votes repub according to some posters on here) I was re-watching an old commentary on this site, Highlander 2 i believe could be wrong, anyways in it spoony was carrying on about how he has some condition where if he overexert himself he gets all sorts of f*d up. Don’t think the dude could rape someone.
Also I just checked AND…some of you might not like this but Spoony is still in the workplace errrrrrr i mean Twitter. what gives? I thought he got fired.

Did we start from a debate about Noah’s departure from TGWTG (which the very same Noah DIDN’T WANT anybody to talk about) and somehow ended up on a political debate on women harassment and republican libertarian or not …?!

Does not compute……..

I remind you people, that this video description says right in the beginning ” Please attempt to remain civil in these comments” I barely see anybody TRYING, here…

On a COMPLETELY RELATED NOTE!!!!, I do wonder where this is gonna take place.

I’m not really looking forward to this….I wasn’t too impressed with any of the anniversary specials in the past. Team Brawl got a few titters out of me but….both Kickassia and Suburban Knights left me feeling that the entire thing was forced rather than done light-heartedly. Idk, I suppose we’ll see how it goes when To Boldly Flee comes out.

Having (now regretfully) waded through the comments, I’m convinced that the webmaster should change the “Load More Comments” button into the “Plunge Deeper into the Septic Tank” button.

Well….so much for civil.

You should find the lordkat stream where he goes nuclear on spoony and literally it like a slow moving torpedo (he can really hold a grudge this was over a year long) and really he was the one to sink spoonys battleship IMHO that and along with Lupa who dug up a month long issue. It was fairly epic (if your being somewhat objective).

Spoony saying sorry to hypocrites makes him look as bad as them.
Ex nostalgia critic and chick both voted for Obama. Obama goes against attacks on far left nuts since he is once too. But when a far left guy like Bill Maher and publicly endorsed and gave money to Obama and his hosts make rape jokes against others then its does not need apology since rape jokes are funny they say when it goes against another political point of view.
When someone makes a slight joke that is not near as bad then all hell breaks loose.

Hypocritical, pure and simple.

I see certain words are not allowed here since Spooney is trying to get into good standing with TGWTG. He will loose some since he did get a bounce in followers after he left TGWTG
http://twittercounter.com/compare/TheSpoonyOne/TGWTG/month/followers

Why is no one mentioning that Spoony is actually still friends with Linkara and that guy is also a Feminist, some people call him hardcore one, but he didn’t seem to care enough to dig up a tweet. Really that speaks lots of volume to me.

I wonder if Ed Glaser has any involvement in this, his work on Ninja The Mission Force was awesome. I’m wondering because as far as I can tell he does great camera work, and the scenes in this look so crisp and well color balanced.

Spoony, I feel for you. You remind me of myself in too many ways. I’m happy to see that you posted this and hope you still do some work with some channel awesome crew, i.e. some Dr. Insano stuff and what not. Whatever happens I wish you the best and if you still review things I will still watch them

it’s sad to see spoony leaving the crew, mostly because this makes it the last anniversary with spoony in it. Noah has his problems and it’s made it harder for him to get along perfectly with everyone, especially after his breakup with scarlet. He is still an awesome and hilarious guy and was one of the top 3 critics for channel awesome. However with a heavy heart it was his choice to leave in the end and I respect his decision. I have a question though..does that mean he’s no longer gonna do any mixes with linkara or doug? will linkara never face off with dr insano ever again? I hope he’ll still update faster but he updates at the speed he can. I stil have his “banhammer” quote as my signature on forums.

TGWTG is meaningless to me without Spoony on the site anymore. i was only there for Spoony and Snob in the first place. i used to love Lindsay till she started putting Todd in every single episode drooling all over his ugly ass. so now i just singly go to Spoony Experiment and Snobs website. problem solved. TGWTG is on a downward spiral, if they are going to let Hook Noses Red-Headed Bitches who only joined a year or so ago dictate who should and shouldnt be on the site they got alot more to worry about then off-color jokes (that was funny by the way) nothing Lupa said to spoony was funny. she is an ugly hateful bitch and i would wish death on her if i wasnt such a nice person. on another Note Rock on Spoony you the man.

Spoony, Red Letter Media and Cinema Snob have always been in my favorites since I first discovered them – before “The hub”. The “big hub” was great for a while…but always struck me as a bit crowded, repetitive and “young”. Great for revenue at its peak, but weak in content overall. I remember the days of the “Internet Flash Artist” celebrity, how short lived that was. The internet is in its infancy still. There’s so much potential that hasn’t been tapped, and it seems that MST3K inspired satire is still solid, but is starting to show signs of needing to evolve into a new medium altogether.

Sorry, rant. BTW, just like RLM, you’re stuff is great and getting better.

At 1:22, Did Spoony just go into the Avatar State?

this drama might have been a plan all along for the 4Th anniversary movie. maybe this fighting was just faked…. its all one big troll! well i hope any way.

JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM LEAVING AND TALK ABOUT HOW FUCKING AWESOME THIS IS GOING TO BE.

Spoony left TGWTG? Jolly good news.

honestly this trailer didn’t get me hyped from sheer epicness not enough tension or awesome stuff going down. maybe the NC dies or something I just feel disjointed instead of hyped.

Keep up the good work spoony. I always enjoy anything youre in.
Also i dont know why everyone got pissed of about a JOKE. Me and my friends joke about stuff like that ALL the time.

Pancake

This is not right. The ladies overreacted about something that most people know Spoony would never do. Not to mention-how many times has a lewd joke been placed on TGWTG’s main videos and no one gives a shit, guy or girl reviewer? He didn’t do anything wrong employment-wise if everyone else does it. Its a common mode of humor shared by co-workers.

Oh Spoony. Why didn’t you suggest going to the basement to “Do the human spider with me” instead of chaining her to a pipe? You could even have offered to show her your new move called The Snobber. That’s the off-color hilarity everyone knows and loves!
Never stop doing your thing man.

oh spoony one, channel awesome is not that awesome without you ;)

Heya Spoony.
Longtime “lurker”, mostly love your game reviews.
I understand that you have gone through some pain and loss in your life semi-recently, and as a man of faith I sincerely pray to GOD that you recover soon and get your head back on straight, so to speak. I hate to see someone I admire, whose humor and talent has lifted MY spirits on occasion be down in the dumps. Best wishes.CJS

Well If that’s true, then you of all people should understand what Lupa and JO are going through and stop standing by a misogynistic reviewer who
supports Republican Jeff Flake

The only ones that need mental help here are Spoony and anyone who defends his actions.

It doesn’t make you any less a hypocrite. How about you direct your time and energy into actually helping abused women at a shelter, instead of saying hateful insults in the forums. You obviously got time on your hands. Put your money where your mouth is.

>First off lets look at this like adults. Jesuotaku is a young woman in
her early 20′s.
>She has a boyfriend and is in a relationship. She is
also a co worker of his. He
>don’t send a message to a woman that’s in a
relationship with someone that you
>also know saying how if things don’t
workout with her boyfriend that you’ll chain
>her up in your brothers
basement and love her your way, and then go on to
>further state that your way ends in lots of tears. That’s not a joke, that creepy and
>it’s
crossing the line. If you don’t believe so try telling a woman you
barely know
>(just like in spoony’s case) that’ you’ll tie her up in your
basement and rap her.
>Better yet say it infront of her boyfriend. Lets
see how fast you’ll get A. punched
>in the face,B.Arrested for sexual
threats or C. all of the above.

Spoony never said anything about rape, let alone tears. It was a joke about bondage and S&M, not rape.

And the fact that you can be punched in the face, or even arrested for essentially doing nothing but saying a few words as a man is not a sign of problems with you, but the misandry-based problems in society.

>it’s just not funny man, there’s no joke in that at all. You don’t say anything like
>that to a woman ever.

And there we show this attitude beautifully. “You don’t say/hit a woman ever,” because they’re such perfect, sweet little fragile goddesses who can’t handle anything and would never do anything wrong! It doesn’t matter if she’s stabbing you to death with a knife, you don’t do it EVER! Fuck that bullshit, this is supposed to be the bloody 21st century, not the middle ages.

>If this was a real job I.E. corporate America he would be in even worse trouble.

Yep, more problems with misandry, thanks for pointing that out.

>Now JO may not have said much about it because women handle things
>differently. Just because she didn’t lash out “online” doesn’t mean it
didn’t make
>her skin crawl or that she talk about how it bothered her.

Yep, there we go again. Poor wittle giry girls, don’t have what it takes to stand up forthemselves. They just shrink down and keep it all bottled up and on’t say anything! Quick! Let’s not hold them to the same standards as everyone else, no vilify all men and demand all men become dispensers of violence on behalf of the poor wittle victims.

Go back to the dark ages where you belong.

I worship this man for the level and asskickery he just served, with a side of awesome.

@facebook-725585889:disqus You just proved my point for me.

im not getting into the argument really, but your assertion that people have died for religious tenets more than any other reason is wrong, i am an historian by the way, although knowing the internet and its machinations you may not believe me. but on an extremely general level (as saying that religous rtenents were the REASON as to why people have been killed is a massive generalization that applies to exactly no particular war, yes, even the crusades more than likely had other reasons besides strictlly religion, although religion was important). more than likely the primary cause of people killing others over the centuries were wars over territory and for power i had to respond btw, i HATE it when people use history to back up what they say, its usually total bullshit and they really dont know anything….anyway, i mean no offense, and i do not agree or disagree with what you are saying in your argument. I honestly think he was joking and that probably about all he meant, but yes, this behavior can be a slippery slope if gone unchecked

My god, you stupid asshole. Leave the people alone, no-one is going to convert to hating-spoony-ism, no-one is going to validate your self righteous, pseudo-masturbatory nacissism.
Smoke a joint, chill the fuck out and stay the hell off of the website if you don’t like Spoony. Or, if you must keep trolling, trying using better arguments than insulting everyone, or you just end up looking like a child while everyone else pities you.

RaiderRich2001, first some disclosure about me. I’m in Canada, I’m a member of the New Democratic Party, a democratic SOCIALIST party. I hate most Republicans, I’m as far away from a conservative as one can be… and you’re saying complete shit.Just because Lupa is a woman does NOT mean that anyone who disagrees with her or who criticizes her “hates all women”.

Just because Spoony made a joke that could be interpreted as a rape joke doesn’t make him a “rapist”… if it did, then Lindsay Ellis who made a lot of rape jokes, being the brain behind the initial “Spooning with Spoony” sketch, would be a much bigger rapist.

Furthermore, joke-flirting with women is not a crime against humanity. Stop being such a prude, sexuality is part of human nature. There’s nothing wrong with flirting, or with remarking on your attraction to someone else. When people talk of sexual harassment, you hear only the first word “sexual” and construe every sexual comment to be sexual harassment and wrong. You forget the second word “HARASSMENT”, as in repeated and unwanted interactions. If you come up to a woman and say “I like you, I’m attracted to you, want to go out?” That is NOT harassment, it may still be inappropriate based on context (a bar is okay, an office is iffy, a funeral is RIGHT OUT), but it’s not harassment. Harassment is not taking no for an answer and keeping the pressure on, with such comments on a regular basis.

Spoony made one comment about JO, she objected, he apologized, they moved on. You may say that it was an inappropriate sexual joke, but it’s not in any way, shape or form, harassment.

Finally, stop thinking that women are all weak powerless creatures who need to be defended all the time, or that they are angels who are sullied whenever their pure ears pick up sexual comments. Women are also sexual creatures, like men, and most of them like sex too (not any sex, any time, of course). I would say that your point of view of the world is much more misogynistic than Noah’s.hem like sex too (not any sex, any time, of course). I would say that your point of view of the world is much more misogynistic than Noah’s.

I can aknowledge someones ability without admiring it. I, too, speak when I see something wrong in the world – but I try to see things as parts of a whole, and I know the way Spoony jokes (that’s the only thing I know for sure about Spoony. I don’t know about his “real personality”, but these videos tell about his sense of humor). So when I see a joke, I know it’s a joke. If he really had touched a girl rudely and then claimed it was a joke, different story. Like this, it wasn’t funny, but it wasn’t dangerous or sign of him actually even wanting to do it. So yes, Lupa overreacted when she wrote an essay on rape jokes. At least in my eyes. But I have tendency to go writing essays on little things that have annoyed me or made me sad or had me wondering etc. But I tend to focus on last few days, because after that it’s kind of a moot point, ’cause things change. It’s no use dragging up past mistakes. And the apology from Spoony was valid enough: he hadn’t done anything, just said something. I don’t think JO got too upset and hurt about it.

And I don’t think you’ll believe me, but I’m not Repulican or even conservative: I’m Finnish. I believe in gay rights, euthanasia and abortion, I want free health care and I think arts and culture need more money instead of military, I think women should think for themselves and men have to be able to do the housework. I’m not religious and I just want everyone to get along.

I’m sorry, by the way, for speaking for all women. Some of us feel (and are) objectified, I’m sure, and some are treated very rudely just for our gender. And I’m sure not all of us are strong or able to speak up for themselves. Same goes for men, though. Not all of us are strong – I’m speaking for all humanity here. Very rude of me, I know. But for myself, I can say that I both have a voice and common sense to not blow things out of proportions.

I’m not, by the way, saying that Spoony doesn’t need help. I have thought so for who knows how long. I’m just not sure if getting fired is the best thing to do for someone with mental health problems, even if I know he was out of line. I just wish he would go to therapy, get the correct medication, work out the problems, find a bit of happiness and do what he wishes to do, even if it means quitting reviewing altogether. I just wish for his happiness, wherever it may lie.

War on Women, huh?

Funny, I didn’t see any bodies of women floating down the river or getting buried, oh, right, there’s no actual war going on.

Listen up, you piece of crap, you do not get to denigrate the victims the elite’s wars, where men are used up as cannon fodder, by calling making some women pay (shock!) for their own birth control pills only some of the time a war, especially considering all men get to pay for their birth control all of the time a “war”.

You wouldn’t know war if it hit you in the ass, so take your misandry and take a hike.

Hmm, let me think here… “Now, on the internet Spoony’s joke is par for the course, but in the
workplace, it’s possibly sexual harassment, so if JesuOtaku did complain
(which she didn’t) fair enough”… quote; me! Yeah, see, I’m well aware that such a comment could be construed as sexual harassment. That’s me right there saying it. People all too frequently make stupid jokes not realising how they’ll be taken, especially online. Was JO offended? Possibly. Did Spoony apologise? Yes. Did JO accept that apology? Yes. Was the matter considered resolved between the two of them? Yes. What it any of Lupa’s fucking business? No.

You see this is the problem. Your posts here have made it abundantly clear that you’re not for equality or even slightly prepared to forgive Spoony for telling an inappropriate joke for fuck sake. You just want an excuse to hate men, you find any old crime, doesn’t matter how small, string the guy up and clam he’s “part of the problem”. You’re one step off blaming “the patriarchy” for everything… go on, do it, prove that you’re a one dimensional troll. Your obsession with the Republican party is frankly comical as you call everyone who disagrees with you a Republican as though you proclaiming it makes it true. So what are you then? A Democrat? From my perspective both parties are pretty much the same. You get run by the brainless or the spineless, either way you’re fucked. Sure Republicans are slightly more stupid, but it’s Pepsi and Diet Pepsi as far as I’m concerned.

You call Spoony a “known sexual harasser”, are you really so pathetic, so lacking in real problems or adversity? He made a fucking joke, nothing more, stop making it out to be more when it’s not. I’ve seen more crude material as part of the videos on TGWTG itself… AND SO HAVE YOU! You’re looking for an excuse to be pissed off.

Here’s a little something for you to consider when it comes to gender equality, something most people who use the term “feminist”, most certainly don’t fight for. Male domestic violence figures; based on a 2011 study by the Home Office and University of London, men as victims of domestic violence now OUTNUMBER women, however in the UK less than 1% of reported domestic violence cases are made by men. Men are frequently made to feel weak, less that worthless, etc. if they report. Women being abused get support, men being abused get mocked. Then there’s rape. In USA male rape victims outnumber female rape victims, with institutionalised rape in prisons being largely ignored. I’d like to remind you this is USA, the country with the largest incarceration statistic in the world, that sends men to prison for years to be brutally raped over and over, for carrying marijuana. Not only is this ignored, prison rape is frequently used as a joke on TV, in stand up acts, online. In our society it’s treated as though he deserves it for breaking the law. We’re not even considering the rape cases outside of the prison system, which go largely unreported, and if the attacker is female, completely ignored in many cases. People scoff, stating things like, “you can’t rape a man, if he doesn’t want it he won’t get hard”, as though you can stop your penis from reacting to stimulation when you’re being forced. In the movie, “40 days and 40 nights” there is an outright RAPE SCENE! A woman goes into a room where a guy who’s vowed to be celibate for 40 days is handcuffed to the bed by hands and feet, and forces him to have sex with her. This is a horrible scene, yet it’s played for laughs and some film critics even questioned if it was really rape because he must of wanted it because he was hard. Do you see how sick that is, imagine the reverse and me using “she must of wanted it, her vagina was wet” as an excuse, it’s sick. Then there’s child molestation, another case where male victims outnumber female victims but where the support structure doesn’t exist for them, but this is already getting too long…

You claim there’s a problem. Yeah, there fucking is. We have all these feminist groups going around claiming women are the victims and men are all monsters. Prominent bloggers like Rebecca Watson calling men sexist for saying “Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I find you very interesting, would you like to come back to my place for coffee”. Huh? What’s wrong with her, is she unfamiliar with the word “No”. She was at a convention, he found her attractive and tentatively let her know. He didn’t force himself on her or badger her, for fuck sake, the poor bloke didn’t even ask twice and was defensive before he started. Feminists want men cowering in fear, afraid to say anything. Well not me, no. She should take it as a compliment, someone is showing an interest in her, this is a good thing. If she is not interested in returning the sentiment she says “No”, NICELY! manners cost nothing, and they go their separate ways. How hard is that? If the roles where reversed, no-one would ever consider it sexist if a woman asked a man up to her room for coffee. No-one. If you’re honest you’ll agree.

Now for me, sexual crimes and gender equality are very important. I’m a big guy and often given sexual discrimination. At 6’6″ and over 300lbs, you can imagine what people assume of me. I however have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome. I don’t care if you’re 5’3″ and only 95lbs, you could probably still overpower me. I’ve had employers use the fact that female employers are struggling less than me as a reason to chastise me, phrases like “if she can lift that, you certainly can”, and “well [blank], has been working just as long as you and she’s not tired, a big man like you should be able to outpace her”. Is that sexism against my female coworkers? No, it’s sexism against us BOTH! Outside of a working environment I’ve been in an abusive relationship, both emotionally and physically, and this was before my disability really took hold. I was much stronger back then, but not as strong as I looked by far. I was regularly beaten, sometimes in public. I had friends trying to tell me I was being abused but I’d been emotionally conditioned and looking back it’s both embarrassing and upsetting, yet on the one time I physically stuck back, after being thrown off the bed and held by my throat (i’m asthmatic), I hit her back bruising her cheek. I was made out to be the monster. I was the evil “woman-beater”. The landlord kicked me out of our joint house, and many people refused to speak to me. My friends, the ones who saw it, saw the mess she made me. They understood, but so few wouldn’t, and it’s only shear dumb luck that this wasn’t made much worse. The police where not involved, at any time, and I’m truly lucky because sexism in the police would mean they’d scoff at my regular bruisings, mock me, yet arrest me for the one time I fought back.

It doesn’t end there. Oh no. Remember the rape and child molestation statistics. Well, at the age of 10, I was sexually assaulted by a teenage boy of 16. This was never reported and I didn’t tell anyone for over 7 years. I recently found out I’m not the only person who was and to this date two male friends of mine have admitted to being molested as a child, and one more raped in his first week at university, date rape drug. I’d rather not go into any details, but male rape is ignored on almost every level, that is sexism.

You say you’re for gender equality. Well stop picking on someone who made a stupid bloody joke and actually address the issue. We don’t need “women’s issues”, and rape is not a fucking “women’s issue”. We just need people who care. People who seek to stop the cruel from hurting others, abusing others, regardless of gender.

So, still a “feminist”, or do you not yet understand that a vagina isn’t a pre-requisite to being a victim?

i didnt see rape either i thought after i heard the “joke” what is he gonna do with her play DnD with her? come on its spoony what else would he do

Spoony’s actions warranted being fired in any business. The fact that Channel Awesome hasn’t completely closed the door to dealing with him is a sign that they are being extremely generous.

Thank you for speaking for all women. You can stop now.

Seriously you people are nuts if you think his hissy fits are reasonable actions for a grown ass 30 year old man. Spoony has better luck than most of us and is self destructing, guy needs to get help.

This x1000

As correct as your stance is (and it’s the stance I’ve held for a long time; I don’t put much stock in celebrities), expect it to fall on deaf ears.
There’s just too much Stupid on the Internet, and you can’t fix Stupid.

“Men can’t make casual rape threats to women in their workplace IT MUST BE BECAUSE SOCIETY HATES MEN!”

I don’t claim to know anything but I think you’re exaggerating a bit here… I don’t think Channel Awesome is out to get Spoony or anything. Maybe some of them are more pissed off than others but I doubt there is a conspiracy against him or that they chose to fire him at the worst possible time just to be jerks…

@TornadoCreator:disqus “This was calculated. They chose a time when Spoony was going though a breakup and caused trouble knowing he’d lash out, as anyone would when they’re feeling like that. Spoony as well, with his deteriorating health and problems with depression was not feeling himself. I have also struggled with depression and all too frequently it’s ignored. This was the time Lupa chose to have her minions attack Spoony on twitter, and he reacted the way any normal person would. He told them all to fuck off, and again, rightly so.”

Really? Because if I’m not mistaken this breakup Spoony has been going through occurred roughly a YEAR ago. I’ve said this before but it bears repeating: no one outside of Holly Christine and Noah Antwiler (give or take a few people) likely knows the full story here. Having followed Spoony on Twitter for a year and a half now I have personally seen him act like a horrible jackass towards supportive people as well as detractors on far more than just this one occasion, in worse ways than he did this time. It’s far more likely that this last series of incidents was merely the straw that broke what had to have been a pretty damn strong camel’s back. Spoony’s own tweets give the impression that something went down during the filming of the 4th year anniversary special (the fact that this was implied by Doug Walker to be the last anniversary special for Channel Awesome also supports this theory) that event was probably what got this final ball rolling and the downhill spiral that came out of this that resulted in a terrible joke being blown out of proportion and effectively pitting the more vocal and annoying part of two fanbases against each other (whoever was in the right here is irrelevant) may well have been the reason for the severing of the ties between CA and Spoony. There is no conspiracy.

Wait wait wait…. I frankly didn’t want to get too much into what happened since I think it’s none of my business what internet entertainers say to one another but… LK told Noah to KILL HIMSELF? Seriously? This isn’t an exaggeration or anything? Because if it isn’t, that’s… that’s seriously the worst possible thing you can say to a depressed person. News flash: THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY DO IT.

That’s just so not acceptable. I know this all too well from personal experience. You don’t need a lot to drive a seriously depressed person to kill themself, even someone who doesn’t appear suicidal. Believe me. If you actually TELL them to do it you’re practically a murderer in my book.

OH MY GOD SOMEONE ACTUALLY COMMENTED ON THE VIDEO. I love you :D

Spoony only made a rape joke if you’re hyper sensitive to rape and looking for it. He most certainly did not make rape threat in any way shape or form.

I actually am a socialist. I’m not American, the word isn’t an insult in Europe it’s just a political opinion. I only mention my political position because I found it funny that Raider was calling everyone who disagreed with her a “Republican”, as if it was the word “Voldamort”.

I actually recently decided, for the sake of nostalgia to do the free trial of that. I don’t know, gameplay wise, it felt improved upon what it was like back in ’97, but it just didn’t feel like it had the soul it had before.

I damn near became a Grand-Master Paladin (what’s a Paladin?) in just under a day… maybe I was inadvertently grinding, but I remember it taking my dad a month to become a JOURNEYMAN of a skill, two months to become Grand-Master Mage… and magery was the whole basis of his character. Heck, back then I never even managed Journeyman, I was a pre-teen who got to play the game for a couple of hours a week, depending on whether my dad was feeding his addiction or not.

Only reason I even tried the trial (aside from the nostalgia) was because I heard that Exodus was finally vanquished… and yet Minax is still alive… Oh, and the Shadow Lords were beaten a few years back… I’m left wondering whether the Guardian will make an Ultima Online appearance. But then again, he was never part of Britannia, he was an extra-dimensional invader, so chances are he’ll never make an appearance, since he only invaded Britannia Prime.

Jeez, reading this, it almost feels like the DC universe, with all it’s mirror universes… I do recommend reading up on the storyline of UO, just because the story of how Britainnia faired without the Avatar making repeated appearances is interesting. Other than that though, yea, UO just isn’t the same as it used to be… I still don’t know how the Asian theme came into it… or the return of the Elves… I need an asprin…

People will only stop blaming Lupa,Phelous et all ( not including Jesu,as she did nothing wrong) simply for the fact they have yet to apologise for THEIR part in the debacle.Spoony apologised.They did not and only made a bad situation 100% worse.

We should be a little beyond this, but hey, I’ll play.

There is a professional – a psychiatrist, or a psychologist, who professionally practices their craft, hence, a professional. And he’s keeping a close eye on Noah’s condition – his “mental state”. This professional has diagnosed him with Bipolar II disorder, and Spoony wrote it on Twitter, publicly – he “stated” it.

Was it the use of the word “accompanying”? I’m sorry. It resembles “acompanhar”, “accompagner”, and I misused it. In simpler words; I speak multiple languages, and verbs tend to get mixed somewhere along the lines. I wasn’t trying to write a formal sentence. Words like that are very informal in the other languages I speak, but also mean slightly different things. The English verb “To accompany” has a much more literal interpretation, whereas in Portuguese, French or Spanish, they can be a little more vague and abstract. Whereas you use the verb to say “You’re accompanying a friend to a bar”, I can say that I’m “accompanying the football scores on TV, while I’m texting my girlfriend”. As you might have guessed, English isn’t my native language, either.

Hilarious little Internet fallacies aside;

“If what I wrote is true”? It’s pretty public. It’s on his Twitter. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, why are you talking about it at all?

” (He) may be bi-polar, but he isn’t insane or stupid.” I’m guessing you hang out with him on a daily basis? Or are you, again, just assuming things for the sake of being contrary?

“He hasn’t physically hurt anyone that we know of.” – That you know of. Not that it has any relevance to the point. I’m just getting all the fluff in your comment out of the way.

“HE SAID MEAN THINGS ON TWITTER.” – Yes, and he also said he was diagnosed with Bipolar II disorder.

“So McClarty’s original statement is out of line.”

Yes, it was. I’m not siding with McClarty, nor am I against Spoony. Someone questioned him having mental issues, when Spoony himself has said that he does. It’s a fact. That’s all I was referring to. You just took it completely out of context, which is also something you lot seem to love to do.

So, before you White-Knight any further (since that’s pretty obviously what you’re attempting to do), let me come straight out and say that I love Spoony’s work, and I don’t have any negative feelings towards the man. Maybe that’ll save us a few (dozen) useless back-and-forths, because I feel we’re not at all on a different faction in this situation.

Spoony saying sorry to hypocrites makes him look as bad as them.
Ex nostalgia critic and chick both voted for Obama. Obama goes against attacks on far left nuts since he is once too. But when a far left guy like Bill Maher and publicly endorsed and gave money to Obama and his hosts make rape jokes against others then its does not need apology since rape jokes are funny they say when it goes against another political point of view.
When someone makes a slight joke that is not near as bad then all hell breaks loose.

Hypocritical, pure and simple.

I see certain words are not allowed here since Spooney is trying to get into good standing with TGWTG. He will loose some since he did get a bounce in followers after he left TGWTG
http://twittercounter.com/compare/TheSpoonyOne/TGWTG/month/followers

dude, you mixed too many things into this post. One anger at a time

While I agree with the general gist of this post, let’s keep some perspective here: Even as a joke, Spoony’s tweet is an asshole thing to do. We cannot and should not try to justify or excuse it. Maybe people overreacted to it, maybe there’s more to it than that, but that tweet should not have happened and Spoony can’t get a free pass on it. There’s a line between offensive comedy and just plain being offensive. Granted, he apologised for it, but that just serves to cement that there’s something to apologise for.

The rest of this “Watergate” is just people blowing up what should have been a personal matter between supposed friends and colleagues into an Internet flame war because we love to troll and make a news story out of everything. The sad thing is that for as much as internet reviewers like to see themselves as professionals, they seem awful quick to all jump into a flame war and throw down like they’re just any anonymous poster, as opposed to acting like a legitimate business would and keeping these things internal. Seriously, consider how, say, Blizzard or NCsoft our, hell, even EA would handle something like this. Not by having execs toss insults at each other over their own public forums, I can tell you that much.

I actually don’t watch either Lupa or Lord Kat, and haven’t for some time.

Pretty much the only thing I wanted out of Lord Kat was his video series on beating really hard retro games. It was informative and only occasionally entertaining, but it was well done for what it was. Then Lord Cat gave up on it because he just didn’t like doing it, apparently, and I was left with… What, exactly? Can’t tell what else he does but streams, which I’ve no interest in.

Lupa I started out following, but honestly, her reviews grate on me. Labelling herself as “the most annoying person on the site” in that one Phelous review wasn’t too far off the bat. At least when I last watched her reviews, they relied too much on her “funny voice” and on taking a bad movie and praising how good it was for being bad. I can’t say her reviews are bad, they’re just not the style of review I like, and I was really concerned when Phelous started doing the “funny voice” a little too much in his Killdozer review.

That doesn’t mean I won’t go to TGWTG, though. Linkara, the Nostalgia Critic, Phelous, the Blockbuster Buster and others still post damn good videos, and JO has done nothing wrong, in addition to making a pretty good Miyazaki retrospective. Personally, I’d prefer to let the people involved handle this in-house and stick to the content I enjoy. If the Spoony One needs time to recover before releasing more videos, that’s just fine. I still feel his are the best by far, so waiting for them is worth it.

No they didn’t. Spoony’s original post did nothing but joke about JesuOtaku and never implied rape, no matter how many Oompa Lupas wanted it to be there.

except that Spoony wasn’t in his place of business at the time. The only way you can make this pathetic argument is if you want to pretend that since Lupa is an online business that the ENTIRETY of the internet somehow becomes a hostile working environment through Spoony’s actions.

You realize this guy is basically trying to equate Spoony with major politicians and is actually trying to say that Spoony is actively trying to go out and harm women right? Additionally, this guy is claiming that ANYONE who does not 100% agree with him is completely complicit if not actively participating in said crimes as well, up to and including rape.

In fact, these accusations are bordering on legally actionable and I’m really surprised Spoony hasn’t banned this troll already for his blatantly abusive posts. It’s very telling that almost all of his posts, including his reply to ME, have been hidden on grounds of abuse reports.

Here’s a clue Nathan. The guy’s from Texas and routinely posts pictures of lolcats on facebook. He’s a huge troll trying to get attention by offending as many people as possible. Don’t give him an audience and don’t fall for his bullshit. Read the hidden posts and see just how far he’s willing to go. He actually insults actual harassment victims and women, belittling them in an attempt to victimize them and shift the blame entirely to us and Spoony.

This guy is the worst kind of troll. Someone who nearly does legally actionable but still extremely offensive posts. Don’t feed the trolls.

Why are you here then? The thing is, there was no rape joke, just a joke. Jokes about BDSM are not jokes about rape. And Why are you here? If you don’t agree with what was said or done and spoony’s part, why come here. If you don’t like or disagree with something or someone is it that hard to just leave or not seek it out? Anyway, The trailer looks great, can’t wait to see the movie.

I’m a maroon?! I am the colour brown apparently. That’s nice to know, thank you for that Ruby. We’re all enriched by your profound contributions to this discussion.

Actually, strike that, I’ll be joining the boycott as long as either Lupa or LordKat are still involved with Channel Awesome

you might as well get a divorce. I’ll have to explain to my ex girlfriend that she hates women, too. then again, I’m the catalyst for introducing her to spoony, guess that makes me even more sexist.

you’re clearly a time traveler.

Guys! Guys! What do you say we all stop feeding the troll? Because you know, he is one…

Now to present my opinion about the Spoony Debacle: NOBODY DOES OR SHOULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE JO AND TWITTER ACOUNT CONSPIRACY. Also, Spoony should get his head straight (when he can) and keep making his stuff and whoever wants to watch himm will support him.

Also, this thread (and others) should be based on creative critisism, instead of a gossip-based flame war.

Speaking of creative critisism, I think Spoony should stop making hour-long vlogs, but then again that’s just me.

ANDREW WANT IN

I want in as well!!!! We will show the world that our voice must be heard!!

I actually really like the vlogs. I’m often at home with little to do, too tired or high as a bloody kite on opiates to actually concentrate on a film or video game though, so I find myself watching vlogs such as the ones Spoony and TheAmazingAtheist put out. I’m on a lot of heavy duty medication at the moment and I find that the vlogs feel like having a conversation without needing to think of a response, which is nice. It keeps my mind off the pain and stops me from giving in to the chronic fatigue and oversleeping. That’s what I get from them anyway. I can certainly understand why other people dislike them, and they DEFINITELY shouldn’t replace his main videos, but I enjoy them.

As for the rest of your comment, couldn’t agree more, but I do enjoy responding to trolls. What can I say, trolling trolls is my guilty pleasure.

Spoony =/= the forum mods, jsyk

So, Sebastian, if I would say, that I’d do a horrible thing to someone, and later have dozens of people claiming, that I was making a joke, everything is okay?

well, it depends on the context. if it was a joke, then yes. why not? you never made a horrible joke then realized that you were out of line?
if it wasn’t a joke, then no.
why do you assume that spoony wasn’t joking? i assumed that he was. it has to do with interpretation. it’s hard to transmit the intended message over a text conversation. body language and spoken inflections doesn’t translate over text. the same way lupa, you and many others interpreted spoony’s message as harassment, other people, like me and many others, interpreted as a joke. i’m not saying it was a good or appropriate joke. just saying that’s what it looks like to me. i don’t think anyone can accurately tell if he was joking or not, so it falls to interpretation.
you want to think that he was telling her that he was gonna do some stuff to JO, well, all i can say is that i don’t think people who would actually do that kind of stuff would tell it via twitter, where lots and lots of followers can see it.
i think it was a joke. offensive, stupid, out of line joke. and i don’t want to crucify him just for that. people make mistakes, it’s nothing new, specially when they are out of their minds, like spoony clearly was. i’m not justifying all that happened. i’m just saying it’s easy for other people to judge and point accusing fingers. while most of them wouldn’t want to be judged themselves. that’s BS.

Perhaps you’re right. I see signs of malice in what was done and said, but as you say, it’s impossible for us to know really. As for Holly, yeah, that was a year ago, I was under the impression that there was another more recent girlfriend and thus a more recent breakup. I’m beginning to think I’ve less information that I originally thought.

Now, let’s be fair here, using tiny-arse groups in a country you (presumably, feel free to correct me) don’t live in isn’t really all that representative of general legal feeling when it comes to the respective rights of both men and women. Yes, there are many legal issues when it comes to gender stereotyping, but at the end of the day both sexes suffer from these issues, and to deny that one gender has absolutely no issues with this sort of thing to deal with is manifestly untrue.

Okay, don’t bring up something ridiculous in a serious conversation. It just nearly invalidated your very sensible and warranted comment (i.e. I agree with you on the first bit). That’s like me pointing out that in some states in America completely closed off communities allow incest and rape of young women under the age of 14 and the authorities do nothing about it. Just because it’s true, doesn’t mean it’s not a minority niche that does nothing to justify the minority.

By the way, if you want to know the societal legacy here (you don’t, but I’ll tell you anyway….because I’m mean), it’s because women only recently – like many oppressed racial groups and minorities – gained their independence and equality in the last 100 years. There’s still a lot of institutionalised prejudice around against women, and so people – being aware of such a thing – try to overcompensate with tiptoeing around women a bit sometimes. That’s in what you and I would call “normal” society. The unfortunate truth is that there is a huge contingency in every first-world country of women being abused and oppressed that does validate being cautious. And I’m speaking from first hand experience here, if that gives my lecture any added weight – and I live in Australia. Third world countries don’t even get a mention!

Look, you seem like a sensible person so I think most of this will have been for nothing, but I’d just really hoped that your comment “Women on the other hand, can do just about anything and get away with it”, wasn’t representative of your actual views on women, and that you were just being blase for the sake of argument.

I’m not redefining ‘feminist’, I’m explaining the shift in the contemporary meaning of the word. When you say ‘feminist’ today, people don’t think “Aaahh, you’re for gender equality, that’s nice”, they think, “Oh fuck, another bitter man-hating bitch looking for an excuse to be offended at everything. I wonder how long it’ll take before she accuses me of being a sexist”. This is the norm now, whether it’s fair or not, this is what most people think nowadays when they hear the term ‘feminist’.

To be entirely blunt here, even the term “feminism” is sickeningly pro woman. Why “feminism” why not “masculinism” (which isn’t in the dictionary according to my spell checker, further proving my point. The term itself is by it’s very form, bias towards women. People discuss things like rape, domestic violence, childcare, maternity/paternity leave, abortion, etc. under the umbrella term “women’s issues”, does this not strike you as odd. Do men never get raped or abused? Do men not raise children or get an opinion on abortion? The fact is if you’re for gender equality yet label yourself a “feminist” you’ve already given yourself a sexist label.

By any modern definition you’re not a feminist, you’re just a reasonable person who supports equal civil rights for everyone. There are some movements that still need their own identity such as, gay rights movements, and atheist rights movement, both two of the most discriminated groups in USA today. Women however don’t need this, not any more. Women have won, they have the same rights as men, they have the same social standing as men, they can vote, stand for political office etc. you’ve won. Sure there’s the occasional business which underpays it’s female employees and things like that, but there are already laws in place to stop that, it doesn’t need a movement. Rape and domestic violence is now more of an issue for men than women. Women have support groups and are given sympathy as the victim. Men are ridiculed and mocked. This is why (based on estimations) more than 40% of domestic abuse is UK is against men yet on 6% of reported abuse cases are made by men. Rape against men in USA is more common than rape against women, largely because of prison rape. Oh and before people start saying “well, they deserve it”, no-one deserves rape and remember USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world and regularly puts people in prison for smoking weed, do they deserve rape?

My point is, men are also victims and deserve the same help women get. Why be a ‘feminist’ when you can just be for true sexual equality, why be involved in ‘women’s issues’ when you could be involved in sex/relationship issues and helping both genders. Why do you feel the need to be a ‘feminist’? Is ‘equal rights activist’ not good enough? Or are you humble enough to consider that maybe I’ve got a point, that focusing your gender equality movement on only one gender is hypocritical and archaic. You’re a reasonable person, I’m sure you can understand my point.

except that she worked for the same business as him. if you see your co worker at the super market and make a joke about raping her friend, it’s still probably gonna get you fired.

are they hypersensitive, or are you just insensitive?

Seriously guys, it happened a month ago. He patched things up with Lupa, JesuOtaku isn’t interested in talking about it, and everyone wants to move on. Yes, he did something stupid. Yes, he acted like a child afterwards. I don’t justify unprofessional behavior, but come on. Is it still worth arguing about when everyone involved is trying to move forward?