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The Spoony One | Apr 27 2009 | more notation(s) | 

I’m still mired in the late 80s and early 90s, the salad days of my childhood, and if I’m being honest, I probably haven’t had an original thought since Twin Peaks went off the air. I think in song lyrics and movie quotes, and I’m prone to howling random quotes from Dune at innocent, bewildered people at little provocation. I think we all know that the last time I tried writing a screenplay, the results were…shall we say, Clerky. Only nowhere near as good. I am a hackish, cartoony parasite, and the only real difference between me and the guy who writes Doom 3 fanfic is that I know what a Shift-key is for.

Anyway, enough stalling! Let the shame begin!

The Entropy of Sliding

Sliding has always had its share of gremlins. Their first slide landed them on a frozen wasteland torn apart by icy maelstroms, and they had to activate the timer early to escape a tornado. As a result, the timer’s electronics were fried and they were unable to select their own destination. At that point, sliding became a hopeless guessing game akin to spinning a roulette wheel with infinite slots and hoping to land on one exact point. Worse, Quinn and the Professor were never able to correctly suss out how much power to allocate to the portals for a safe journey, forcing them to take their best guess. And on top of all that, the remote has seen a ton of abuse, and oftentimes one of the brainiac characters has to spend the B-plot of each episode trying to jury-rig up replacement electronic parts to get it working again.

In short, the timer was a piece of shit, cobbled together with what the group could afford from a dozen Radio Shacks scattered across wildly different corners of the multiverse. Of course it doesn’t work properly, and they’ve never been able to fix it because Quinn left all his schematics back on his PC. They’re actually pretty lucky it worked as well as it did until they managed to swipe a better one from the Kromaggs.

Until then, they had to deal with some dreadful mishap cropping up on every slide. The timer and interdimensional portals were easy to disrupt with electrical surges and inclement weather, and when that happened, the slide became even more unpredictable than before: Quinn might spend the entire slide invisible and incorporeal, the individual group members might be scattered in radically different locations, or maybe even lost between dimensions forever. Quinn found himself amalgamated with a parallel version of himself known only as Mallory (a condition that was never reversed).

That should have been their clue right there: the effects had been steadily getting worse, even after they’d managed to get a better timer. The old timer sucked, sure, and was outright dangerous to use, but it had nothing to do with the timer.

It’s because sliding itself is tearing the multiverse apart.

You can’t just go ripping holes in the fabric of the space-time continuum and jumping through them. Quinn Mallory may have seemed a brilliant young man with a savant’s grasp of theoretical quantum physics, but in reality, he wasn’t all that bright. In fact, he was lucky to have solved the equations to open the portals at all. He never would have figured it out without a timely visit from a much more intelligent Quinn-double from another dimension to fill in the gaps. He lacked a fundamental understanding of certain other laws of physics, like the laws of conservation of matter and energy, and the fact that all of these physical laws and universal constants only work if the universe itself stays constant. And it doesn’t.

That’s part of the reason why Wheeler and Fuller demonstrated why sliding, a.k.a. the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, doesn’t work. Their paper showed that any attempt to open a wormhole between parallel dimensions should close instantaneously the moment it was formed, before even light could escape. Even something with the mass of a photon bleeding through between dimensions causes an imbalance, a shift in the constants of mass and gravity of the universe. This shift will always cause sweeping, pervasive changes in every single physical object in the universe. It affects the accelaration of gravity. It changes the orbital distance of electrons around their nucleus. It changes the speed of light. It changes the flow of time and its dilation over distance.

In fact, Einstein and Rosen knew this. They were the first sliders, but they realized almost instantly that something was wrong. The first thing they did upon entering their first new dimension was to run scientific experiments to prove that it was the same Earth with the same physical laws, just causal independence in the way their histories unfolded.

But the equations didn’t balance. The constants were off. By millionths of a degree, but they were off. Einstein postulated that their mass transitioning between dimensions caused this imbalance, and left unchecked, would eventually cause all matter to unravel at a submolecular level, leaving the entire dimension a black, lifeless void of drifting hydrogen clouds. Einstein and Rosen abandoned the project and falsified their journals, “proving” the entire theory infeasible and hoping it would dissuade further research.

Things are spiraling out of control, or more appropriately, down the tubes. Quinn and the gang have been gallivanting around for years, poking holes between dimensions wherever they go. The holes look like they collapse, but they don’t. Not completely. The “fabric” metaphor of space and time is apt, because like a fabric, it frays, and if you punch holes in it, it leaks. The Kromaggs have been sending entire invasion fleets between dimensions, and they’re the first to notice something is desperately wrong. Entire outposts are vanishing. Entire planetary garrisons. All that’s left is slowly-dissipating hunks of base metals and gas, and the effect is starting to spread. There are so many holes now that the multiverse is beginning to hemorrhage dimensions into one another. They’re merging, compressing, expanding, or just outright exploding. It’s hard to tell, because the multiverse is desperately trying to find its own equilibrium point– to find a set of physical constants that fits.

That’s what Rembrandt finds when he brings his virus to Earth Prime– an already dying Kromagg race. Every planet they’ve taken is unraveling at its molecular seams, and they’ve been scrambling to find a reason why, falling back in desperation to their home dimension. Their extinction is already at hand. The world Remmy finds is one of chaos and mutation, where people can bend matter to their will and wield power akin to magic. Entropy is pulling worlds apart, and the only solution is more sliding, to try to find more Sliders, explain the situation to them, and find a way to stop it all.

But even with infinite possible realities, there may not be a way to fix what’s been broken. Infinity isn’t as big as it used to be.

  • nuffsaid

    Spoony is fucking awsome!

  • nuffsaid

    Spoony is fucking awsome!

  • nuffsaid

    Spoony is fucking awsome!

  • poop

    I liked it.

  • poop

    I liked it.

  • poop

    I liked it.

  • Anon

    If Spoony ever made a low budget science fiction television series, I would love it.

  • Anon

    If Spoony ever made a low budget science fiction television series, I would love it.

  • Anon

    If Spoony ever made a low budget science fiction television series, I would love it.

  • Zach Wilkins

    Pretty good. The science is great. Give me more.

  • Zach Wilkins

    Pretty good. The science is great. Give me more.

  • Zach Wilkins

    Pretty good. The science is great. Give me more.

  • Renkalost

    I enjoyed reading this and was actually impressed with the thought put into the scenario.

  • Renkalost

    I enjoyed reading this and was actually impressed with the thought put into the scenario.

  • Renkalost

    I enjoyed reading this and was actually impressed with the thought put into the scenario.

  • Goldstubble

    Impressive grip of physics! I definitely liked it!

    On a tangential, whiney note, I wish you would upload your movie reviews faster. I love reading those and want to refer your awesome snark collection to my friends.

  • Goldstubble

    Impressive grip of physics! I definitely liked it!

    On a tangential, whiney note, I wish you would upload your movie reviews faster. I love reading those and want to refer your awesome snark collection to my friends.

  • Goldstubble

    Impressive grip of physics! I definitely liked it!

    On a tangential, whiney note, I wish you would upload your movie reviews faster. I love reading those and want to refer your awesome snark collection to my friends.

  • 1337pete

    Trying to bring back Sliders? You know, I heard Charlie Kaufman was walking around with spec scripts for the Lucy Show and the original Mission Impossible before he got his big break.

  • 1337pete

    Trying to bring back Sliders? You know, I heard Charlie Kaufman was walking around with spec scripts for the Lucy Show and the original Mission Impossible before he got his big break.

  • 1337pete

    Trying to bring back Sliders? You know, I heard Charlie Kaufman was walking around with spec scripts for the Lucy Show and the original Mission Impossible before he got his big break.

  • hossrex

    Wow. Pretty awesome.

    Sadly, it’s too intelligent for television. Remember, we’re talking about the medium where Kevin Sorbo fired the head writer on Andromeda, because the writer refused to dumb down the scripts.

  • hossrex

    Wow. Pretty awesome.

    Sadly, it’s too intelligent for television. Remember, we’re talking about the medium where Kevin Sorbo fired the head writer on Andromeda, because the writer refused to dumb down the scripts.

  • hossrex

    Wow. Pretty awesome.

    Sadly, it’s too intelligent for television. Remember, we’re talking about the medium where Kevin Sorbo fired the head writer on Andromeda, because the writer refused to dumb down the scripts.

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/ Linkara

    See, that sounds friggin’ awesome. You SHOULD be writing them. XD

    The variation in the conservation of mass and energy was always why I thought time travel couldn’t work.

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/ Linkara

    See, that sounds friggin’ awesome. You SHOULD be writing them. XD

    The variation in the conservation of mass and energy was always why I thought time travel couldn’t work.

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com Linkara

    See, that sounds friggin’ awesome. You SHOULD be writing them. XD

    The variation in the conservation of mass and energy was always why I thought time travel couldn’t work.

  • brainscratch

    I think your explanation is actually better thought out and articulated than much of the source material! XD

  • brainscratch

    I think your explanation is actually better thought out and articulated than much of the source material! XD

  • brainscratch

    I think your explanation is actually better thought out and articulated than much of the source material! XD

  • DaniusKang

    You know, people always made fun of me for liking Sliders, calling it Star Trek for stupid people. Jerks.

    Normally I hate the idea of long of reboots, (or sequels, finales, whatevers) but that really had me gripped. I was really enjoying it. Awesome job.

  • DaniusKang

    You know, people always made fun of me for liking Sliders, calling it Star Trek for stupid people. Jerks.

    Normally I hate the idea of long of reboots, (or sequels, finales, whatevers) but that really had me gripped. I was really enjoying it. Awesome job.

  • DaniusKang

    You know, people always made fun of me for liking Sliders, calling it Star Trek for stupid people. Jerks.

    Normally I hate the idea of long of reboots, (or sequels, finales, whatevers) but that really had me gripped. I was really enjoying it. Awesome job.

  • bruno

    wow, i never actually saw this series, mainly becaus it havent been aired in this cold, barren piece of europe that i call home, but it does sound like something i would definetly enyoy.

    oh and i have a request. do you know how really that nexus thing in star trek:generations were suposed to work? i can’t figure it out and it’s tearing on my mind. i guess it’s something about parallel dimensions, but if that’s the case, picard and kirk never actually saved enterprise, they just found a new one right? im feeling cheated and can’t enyoy my picard as passionatly as befor. spoony, i could really need the help.

  • bruno

    wow, i never actually saw this series, mainly becaus it havent been aired in this cold, barren piece of europe that i call home, but it does sound like something i would definetly enyoy.

    oh and i have a request. do you know how really that nexus thing in star trek:generations were suposed to work? i can’t figure it out and it’s tearing on my mind. i guess it’s something about parallel dimensions, but if that’s the case, picard and kirk never actually saved enterprise, they just found a new one right? im feeling cheated and can’t enyoy my picard as passionatly as befor. spoony, i could really need the help.

  • bruno

    wow, i never actually saw this series, mainly becaus it havent been aired in this cold, barren piece of europe that i call home, but it does sound like something i would definetly enyoy.

    oh and i have a request. do you know how really that nexus thing in star trek:generations were suposed to work? i can’t figure it out and it’s tearing on my mind. i guess it’s something about parallel dimensions, but if that’s the case, picard and kirk never actually saved enterprise, they just found a new one right? im feeling cheated and can’t enyoy my picard as passionatly as befor. spoony, i could really need the help.

  • http://jmshearer.deviantart.com/ JMShearer

    I wish I was good enough to pull off things like this. It’s really well thought out and presented. Good work, Spoony.

  • http://jmshearer.deviantart.com/ JMShearer

    I wish I was good enough to pull off things like this. It’s really well thought out and presented. Good work, Spoony.

  • http://jmshearer.deviantart.com JMShearer

    I wish I was good enough to pull off things like this. It’s really well thought out and presented. Good work, Spoony.

  • Squall

    I don’t know about T.V. or film but this would make a great Final Fantasy backing story! You should send this in to Squaresoft. They could probably make a new game out of this…they can all it Final Fantasy 8 and 1/2.

  • Squall

    I don’t know about T.V. or film but this would make a great Final Fantasy backing story! You should send this in to Squaresoft. They could probably make a new game out of this…they can all it Final Fantasy 8 and 1/2.

  • Squall

    I don’t know about T.V. or film but this would make a great Final Fantasy backing story! You should send this in to Squaresoft. They could probably make a new game out of this…they can all it Final Fantasy 8 and 1/2.

  • DanManX

    You know Spoony, that actually IS a pretty good idea. Well thought out and a very logical set up, I think. However, I see your point. It’s much too complicated an idea to really put into a television format, or even the movies. It would have to be a book series or something. Even then, it’s about a show that is no longer on, hasn’t been for many years, and wasn’t even terribly popular when it was around. So while the idea is actually rather sound, it would be a pain to execute properly, by anyone. I think that’s the point. In his head, Spoony probably likes his own work, like most people would for themselves. He may not admit it publicly. However, he is realistic enough to say “Well *I* like it, but what are the odds of this working? And would anyone else even give a crap?” Which is a useful talent, to be able to tell that about your own work. Too many people think they’re geniuses that should be automatically famous and successful. Heck, I have those thoughts sometimes (but I’m also horribly, horribly conceited when it comes to my intelligence).

  • DanManX

    You know Spoony, that actually IS a pretty good idea. Well thought out and a very logical set up, I think. However, I see your point. It’s much too complicated an idea to really put into a television format, or even the movies. It would have to be a book series or something. Even then, it’s about a show that is no longer on, hasn’t been for many years, and wasn’t even terribly popular when it was around. So while the idea is actually rather sound, it would be a pain to execute properly, by anyone. I think that’s the point. In his head, Spoony probably likes his own work, like most people would for themselves. He may not admit it publicly. However, he is realistic enough to say “Well *I* like it, but what are the odds of this working? And would anyone else even give a crap?” Which is a useful talent, to be able to tell that about your own work. Too many people think they’re geniuses that should be automatically famous and successful. Heck, I have those thoughts sometimes (but I’m also horribly, horribly conceited when it comes to my intelligence).

  • DanManX

    You know Spoony, that actually IS a pretty good idea. Well thought out and a very logical set up, I think. However, I see your point. It’s much too complicated an idea to really put into a television format, or even the movies. It would have to be a book series or something. Even then, it’s about a show that is no longer on, hasn’t been for many years, and wasn’t even terribly popular when it was around. So while the idea is actually rather sound, it would be a pain to execute properly, by anyone. I think that’s the point. In his head, Spoony probably likes his own work, like most people would for themselves. He may not admit it publicly. However, he is realistic enough to say “Well *I* like it, but what are the odds of this working? And would anyone else even give a crap?” Which is a useful talent, to be able to tell that about your own work. Too many people think they’re geniuses that should be automatically famous and successful. Heck, I have those thoughts sometimes (but I’m also horribly, horribly conceited when it comes to my intelligence).

  • Miggins

    I loved Sliders, at least until they decided to kill off every character except Remy. I mean seriously. They killed the professor for Maggie. Then they got rid of wade for colin, and then they got rid of quinn and colin for Mallory and that diana woman. To me, it lost it’s magic around then.

    Not to mention the episode with the Springer style episode where Quinn’s on it and Lipschitz asked if he slept with the female version of him on a former Earth.

  • Miggins

    I loved Sliders, at least until they decided to kill off every character except Remy. I mean seriously. They killed the professor for Maggie. Then they got rid of wade for colin, and then they got rid of quinn and colin for Mallory and that diana woman. To me, it lost it’s magic around then.

    Not to mention the episode with the Springer style episode where Quinn’s on it and Lipschitz asked if he slept with the female version of him on a former Earth.

  • Miggins

    I loved Sliders, at least until they decided to kill off every character except Remy. I mean seriously. They killed the professor for Maggie. Then they got rid of wade for colin, and then they got rid of quinn and colin for Mallory and that diana woman. To me, it lost it’s magic around then.

    Not to mention the episode with the Springer style episode where Quinn’s on it and Lipschitz asked if he slept with the female version of him on a former Earth.

  • RedZealot6

    Mind blown. You have yet to cease amazing/amusing/entertaining me, good sir. Good show!

  • RedZealot6

    Mind blown. You have yet to cease amazing/amusing/entertaining me, good sir. Good show!

  • RedZealot6

    Mind blown. You have yet to cease amazing/amusing/entertaining me, good sir. Good show!

  • Zeta

    Great idea.

    Still, the show died for me with the introduction of the “Kromaggs”, which violated a lot of different things on various levels.

  • Zeta

    Great idea.

    Still, the show died for me with the introduction of the “Kromaggs”, which violated a lot of different things on various levels.

  • Zeta

    Great idea.

    Still, the show died for me with the introduction of the “Kromaggs”, which violated a lot of different things on various levels.

  • broken_chaos

    No, hossrex… Don’t remind me of Andromeda… One and a half seasons of setting up what could have been… And then torn to shreds by the fifth season (though “The Unconquerable Man” was a gem among the rest of the crap, in my opinion).

  • broken_chaos

    No, hossrex… Don’t remind me of Andromeda… One and a half seasons of setting up what could have been… And then torn to shreds by the fifth season (though “The Unconquerable Man” was a gem among the rest of the crap, in my opinion).

  • broken_chaos

    No, hossrex… Don’t remind me of Andromeda… One and a half seasons of setting up what could have been… And then torn to shreds by the fifth season (though “The Unconquerable Man” was a gem among the rest of the crap, in my opinion).

  • jackie

    Personally, I’m still stuck at the “alceration” thingie. The curiosity is eating my liver, I can’t help it.

    It’s like when my colleague at work said “You will not believe what happened yesterday, it will blow your mind!” and then his cell phone starts ringing and he storms out and after that he goes on the field for a week. I waited 7 days for continuation of the story, hardly eating and sleeping, and then when he comes back it turns out he was talking about a frikkin Lost episode.

    Aargh.

  • jackie

    Personally, I’m still stuck at the “alceration” thingie. The curiosity is eating my liver, I can’t help it.

    It’s like when my colleague at work said “You will not believe what happened yesterday, it will blow your mind!” and then his cell phone starts ringing and he storms out and after that he goes on the field for a week. I waited 7 days for continuation of the story, hardly eating and sleeping, and then when he comes back it turns out he was talking about a frikkin Lost episode.

    Aargh.

  • Anonymous

    If I’m understanding this correctly, you’re saying you shouldn’t be writing screenplays because you couldn’t write the kind of logical leaps most sci-fi shows use? I remember how much you ripped into Alien Resurrection.

    Still though, not a bad story idea!

  • mflorian

    If I’m understanding this correctly, you’re saying you shouldn’t be writing screenplays because you couldn’t write the kind of logical leaps most sci-fi shows use? I remember how much you ripped into Alien Resurrection.

    Still though, not a bad story idea!

  • wharblgarble

    Did I miss something here? You started all emo about your work, but this is actually really good. What gives?

  • wharblgarble

    Did I miss something here? You started all emo about your work, but this is actually really good. What gives?

  • wharblgarble

    Did I miss something here? You started all emo about your work, but this is actually really good. What gives?

  • Spoony-Fan

    When you say Dune, you do of course speak of the brilliant Frank Herbert fiction piece right?

  • Spoony-Fan

    When you say Dune, you do of course speak of the brilliant Frank Herbert fiction piece right?

  • Spoony-Fan

    When you say Dune, you do of course speak of the brilliant Frank Herbert fiction piece right?

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/ Linkara

    I think he’s referring to the David Lynch film BASED on the Frank Herbert fiction.

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/ Linkara

    I think he’s referring to the David Lynch film BASED on the Frank Herbert fiction.

  • http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com Linkara

    I think he’s referring to the David Lynch film BASED on the Frank Herbert fiction.

  • Brix

    TL;DR

  • Brix

    TL;DR

  • Brix

    TL;DR

  • Vannnn

    Hmmm another blog post, no video.

    For shame.

  • Vannnn

    Hmmm another blog post, no video.

    For shame.

  • Vannnn

    Hmmm another blog post, no video.

    For shame.

  • DamonD

    Never watched Sliders. Well, maybe half an episode but I can’t remember much apart from Sallah bumbling about.

    But I thought that was a good interesting scenario. Taking a show idea and spinning it off in a different direction…with more SCIENCE.

    Somewhere, Christopher H. Bidmead is applauding. Probably himself, but I like to think he’s just read this.

  • DamonD

    Never watched Sliders. Well, maybe half an episode but I can’t remember much apart from Sallah bumbling about.

    But I thought that was a good interesting scenario. Taking a show idea and spinning it off in a different direction…with more SCIENCE.

    Somewhere, Christopher H. Bidmead is applauding. Probably himself, but I like to think he’s just read this.

  • DamonD

    Never watched Sliders. Well, maybe half an episode but I can’t remember much apart from Sallah bumbling about.

    But I thought that was a good interesting scenario. Taking a show idea and spinning it off in a different direction…with more SCIENCE.

    Somewhere, Christopher H. Bidmead is applauding. Probably himself, but I like to think he’s just read this.

  • aaa

    I was expecting more horribly written marty sue characters. But breakdancing over the laws of physics is good enough.

  • aaa

    I was expecting more horribly written marty sue characters. But breakdancing over the laws of physics is good enough.

  • aaa

    I was expecting more horribly written marty sue characters. But breakdancing over the laws of physics is good enough.

  • http://www.johnnydfox.com/ Johnny Fox

    I think I watched Sliders too, when I was slightly younger. Good to know the name of the show for future reference. It used to be on this one local channel that desperately aired shows most channels laughed at because otherwise it was full of reruns of a reporter asking questions like “Why do you like to live in our great hometown”.
    I have to say, I liked Sliders, and I don’t understand why other channels here don’t try to buy the rights to show it. I might have have to actually send mail to some channels, asking them all to get the show.

  • http://www.johnnydfox.com/ Johnny Fox

    I think I watched Sliders too, when I was slightly younger. Good to know the name of the show for future reference. It used to be on this one local channel that desperately aired shows most channels laughed at because otherwise it was full of reruns of a reporter asking questions like “Why do you like to live in our great hometown”.
    I have to say, I liked Sliders, and I don’t understand why other channels here don’t try to buy the rights to show it. I might have have to actually send mail to some channels, asking them all to get the show.

  • http://www.johnnydfox.com/ Johnny Fox

    I think I watched Sliders too, when I was slightly younger. Good to know the name of the show for future reference. It used to be on this one local channel that desperately aired shows most channels laughed at because otherwise it was full of reruns of a reporter asking questions like “Why do you like to live in our great hometown”.
    I have to say, I liked Sliders, and I don’t understand why other channels here don’t try to buy the rights to show it. I might have have to actually send mail to some channels, asking them all to get the show.

  • finalsight

    I’ve only seen about 10 or so episodes of sliders and they were not concurrent ones but a mish-mash from the whole series so i never had a full idea of the whole picture. Of the ones i saw they all shared the same basic plot which was they end up in a new universe and either they get separated or the timer get lost/broken/stolen, followed by them going to a (supposed multiversel constant) hotel and eventually making fun of the Canadians.

    Despite all that i actually liked the series and have now been inspired to search for a torrent for the show.

  • finalsight

    I’ve only seen about 10 or so episodes of sliders and they were not concurrent ones but a mish-mash from the whole series so i never had a full idea of the whole picture. Of the ones i saw they all shared the same basic plot which was they end up in a new universe and either they get separated or the timer get lost/broken/stolen, followed by them going to a (supposed multiversel constant) hotel and eventually making fun of the Canadians.

    Despite all that i actually liked the series and have now been inspired to search for a torrent for the show.

  • finalsight

    I’ve only seen about 10 or so episodes of sliders and they were not concurrent ones but a mish-mash from the whole series so i never had a full idea of the whole picture. Of the ones i saw they all shared the same basic plot which was they end up in a new universe and either they get separated or the timer get lost/broken/stolen, followed by them going to a (supposed multiversel constant) hotel and eventually making fun of the Canadians.

    Despite all that i actually liked the series and have now been inspired to search for a torrent for the show.

  • DelVaro

    I watched Sliders. The times is trully one dangerous piece of shit. always laughed when the timer broke and they had to find new shity improvised parts for it. i have only one thing to say. what you said… was deep.

  • DelVaro

    I watched Sliders. The times is trully one dangerous piece of shit. always laughed when the timer broke and they had to find new shity improvised parts for it. i have only one thing to say. what you said… was deep.

  • Tai MT

    I thought that’s what the Slide-Cage was for in one of the episodes? It was meant to keep the Kromaggs from reaching Earth and they changed it to simply send the Sliders back to their own dimensions.

    You know, I liked Sliders up until they started rapidly killing off/replacing members of the cast. A show almost always begins falling apart at the seams when you begin replacing/killing off cast members. Sure, there are times when you can kill off cast members and get away with it, or get rid of them entirely… Often when the fanbase doesn’t like them at all and just wishes they would go away…

    But ultimately, when you start doing that, your plots begin to fall apart as well. Because now you have to spend time developing a new character when all the old characters are all completely hashed out.

    Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis are prime examples of this. You knew the shows were going to end soon when they kept replacing characters every season, or halfway through a season. It got ridiculous. It was very apparant that the writers were out of ideas and were attempting to “start fresh” by introducing new characters.

    But, when you do that so far into a series, the magic is gone. People just say, “I wonder how this guy will fare, and if he’s even interesting in the least”, and usually, the actor isn’t and the character isn’t.

    I mean, for crying out loud, Stephen King knows that the story is pretty much over when you start killing off your characters or trying to replace them. That’s why The Dark Tower series ended where it did. It began with the killing of Eddie, and after that point, it was all downhill until the end of the story. You can’t keep telling a story when the cast at the beginning of it is dead before you reach the end.

    The whole “pick up the torch” thing doesn’t work and never has. People don’t want replacements, they want the heroes at the beginning to finish what they started.

  • Tai MT

    I thought that’s what the Slide-Cage was for in one of the episodes? It was meant to keep the Kromaggs from reaching Earth and they changed it to simply send the Sliders back to their own dimensions.

    You know, I liked Sliders up until they started rapidly killing off/replacing members of the cast. A show almost always begins falling apart at the seams when you begin replacing/killing off cast members. Sure, there are times when you can kill off cast members and get away with it, or get rid of them entirely… Often when the fanbase doesn’t like them at all and just wishes they would go away…

    But ultimately, when you start doing that, your plots begin to fall apart as well. Because now you have to spend time developing a new character when all the old characters are all completely hashed out.

    Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis are prime examples of this. You knew the shows were going to end soon when they kept replacing characters every season, or halfway through a season. It got ridiculous. It was very apparant that the writers were out of ideas and were attempting to “start fresh” by introducing new characters.

    But, when you do that so far into a series, the magic is gone. People just say, “I wonder how this guy will fare, and if he’s even interesting in the least”, and usually, the actor isn’t and the character isn’t.

    I mean, for crying out loud, Stephen King knows that the story is pretty much over when you start killing off your characters or trying to replace them. That’s why The Dark Tower series ended where it did. It began with the killing of Eddie, and after that point, it was all downhill until the end of the story. You can’t keep telling a story when the cast at the beginning of it is dead before you reach the end.

    The whole “pick up the torch” thing doesn’t work and never has. People don’t want replacements, they want the heroes at the beginning to finish what they started.

  • Tai MT

    I thought that’s what the Slide-Cage was for in one of the episodes? It was meant to keep the Kromaggs from reaching Earth and they changed it to simply send the Sliders back to their own dimensions.

    You know, I liked Sliders up until they started rapidly killing off/replacing members of the cast. A show almost always begins falling apart at the seams when you begin replacing/killing off cast members. Sure, there are times when you can kill off cast members and get away with it, or get rid of them entirely… Often when the fanbase doesn’t like them at all and just wishes they would go away…

    But ultimately, when you start doing that, your plots begin to fall apart as well. Because now you have to spend time developing a new character when all the old characters are all completely hashed out.

    Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis are prime examples of this. You knew the shows were going to end soon when they kept replacing characters every season, or halfway through a season. It got ridiculous. It was very apparant that the writers were out of ideas and were attempting to “start fresh” by introducing new characters.

    But, when you do that so far into a series, the magic is gone. People just say, “I wonder how this guy will fare, and if he’s even interesting in the least”, and usually, the actor isn’t and the character isn’t.

    I mean, for crying out loud, Stephen King knows that the story is pretty much over when you start killing off your characters or trying to replace them. That’s why The Dark Tower series ended where it did. It began with the killing of Eddie, and after that point, it was all downhill until the end of the story. You can’t keep telling a story when the cast at the beginning of it is dead before you reach the end.

    The whole “pick up the torch” thing doesn’t work and never has. People don’t want replacements, they want the heroes at the beginning to finish what they started.

  • Fatkraken

    Honestly? I like it

    I think, developed gradually over the course of 3-4 seasons, revealing the points you make slowly and clearly, *It Could Work*. Do the show over from the start (ala the BSG re-boot) with a Bab 5 style fully mapped out “grand plan” and a known end point. Do the Einstein/Rosen reveal as an out of nowhere flashback episode. Play with sequence, reveal stuff out of chronological order, split the team to have multiple plotlines playing out simultaneously, and end it with a big old mindfuck.

    It soulds overly convoluted and something that would put viewers off, but did you ever see babylon 5? more importantly, Have you been watching LOST recently? there is a LOT of high concept stuff there, and the show is non linear in the extreme, it’s EXTREMELY arc based and you can’t just jump in at any point. The current plot lines (and a lot of the older Desmond based episodes) are at least as hard to swallow as anything you have written there, but it works because the script and the acting make us believe it. It’s convoluted, unbelieveable, high concept AND it is POPULAR.

    And whatever you say about your skills, your outline is better than Smallville. Or Sliders for that matter. Or Stargate (why does sucky Sci-Fi always begin with S?)

  • Fatkraken

    Honestly? I like it

    I think, developed gradually over the course of 3-4 seasons, revealing the points you make slowly and clearly, *It Could Work*. Do the show over from the start (ala the BSG re-boot) with a Bab 5 style fully mapped out “grand plan” and a known end point. Do the Einstein/Rosen reveal as an out of nowhere flashback episode. Play with sequence, reveal stuff out of chronological order, split the team to have multiple plotlines playing out simultaneously, and end it with a big old mindfuck.

    It soulds overly convoluted and something that would put viewers off, but did you ever see babylon 5? more importantly, Have you been watching LOST recently? there is a LOT of high concept stuff there, and the show is non linear in the extreme, it’s EXTREMELY arc based and you can’t just jump in at any point. The current plot lines (and a lot of the older Desmond based episodes) are at least as hard to swallow as anything you have written there, but it works because the script and the acting make us believe it. It’s convoluted, unbelieveable, high concept AND it is POPULAR.

    And whatever you say about your skills, your outline is better than Smallville. Or Sliders for that matter. Or Stargate (why does sucky Sci-Fi always begin with S?)

  • Fatkraken

    Honestly? I like it

    I think, developed gradually over the course of 3-4 seasons, revealing the points you make slowly and clearly, *It Could Work*. Do the show over from the start (ala the BSG re-boot) with a Bab 5 style fully mapped out “grand plan” and a known end point. Do the Einstein/Rosen reveal as an out of nowhere flashback episode. Play with sequence, reveal stuff out of chronological order, split the team to have multiple plotlines playing out simultaneously, and end it with a big old mindfuck.

    It soulds overly convoluted and something that would put viewers off, but did you ever see babylon 5? more importantly, Have you been watching LOST recently? there is a LOT of high concept stuff there, and the show is non linear in the extreme, it’s EXTREMELY arc based and you can’t just jump in at any point. The current plot lines (and a lot of the older Desmond based episodes) are at least as hard to swallow as anything you have written there, but it works because the script and the acting make us believe it. It’s convoluted, unbelieveable, high concept AND it is POPULAR.

    And whatever you say about your skills, your outline is better than Smallville. Or Sliders for that matter. Or Stargate (why does sucky Sci-Fi always begin with S?)

  • A House Cat

    They was a interesting theory.

  • A House Cat

    They was a interesting theory.

  • A House Cat

    They was a interesting theory.

  • Aggs

    That is a pretty slick idea and it seems that you really care for the subject matter. Also, thank you for the link to Mightygodking. I had been trying to remember that website for a while.

  • Aggs

    That is a pretty slick idea and it seems that you really care for the subject matter. Also, thank you for the link to Mightygodking. I had been trying to remember that website for a while.

  • Aggs

    That is a pretty slick idea and it seems that you really care for the subject matter. Also, thank you for the link to Mightygodking. I had been trying to remember that website for a while.

  • Magicow

    I liked the way they didn’t give a shit for the worlds they visited.

    They must have altered a hundred words and destroyed a dozen.

  • Magicow

    I liked the way they didn’t give a shit for the worlds they visited.

    They must have altered a hundred words and destroyed a dozen.

  • Magicow

    I liked the way they didn’t give a shit for the worlds they visited.

    They must have altered a hundred words and destroyed a dozen.

  • LDavis

    I liked it, definitely well written and thought out.

  • LDavis

    I liked it, definitely well written and thought out.

  • Nyoronoru

    It is well detailed and has a good original edge.

    If you refined it for television audiences you would definitely have a winner.

  • Nyoronoru

    It is well detailed and has a good original edge.

    If you refined it for television audiences you would definitely have a winner.

  • Nyoronoru

    It is well detailed and has a good original edge.

    If you refined it for television audiences you would definitely have a winner.

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    Sliders started out decent but ended up cannibalizing itself, Smallville began as high-quality but turned into a soapy commercialized nightmare, and Stargate began as a pile of vomit but improved once the old cast was replaced.

    Now, is there a progression in quality here of any kind?

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    Sliders started out decent but ended up cannibalizing itself, Smallville began as high-quality but turned into a soapy commercialized nightmare, and Stargate began as a pile of vomit but improved once the old cast was replaced.

    Now, is there a progression in quality here of any kind?

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    Sliders started out decent but ended up cannibalizing itself, Smallville began as high-quality but turned into a soapy commercialized nightmare, and Stargate began as a pile of vomit but improved once the old cast was replaced.

    Now, is there a progression in quality here of any kind?

  • groskino

    seriously people, whats all that noise about stargate? the series was made clever, with somewhat good, enjoyable actors.
    okay, i watched season 1-10, the first seasons several times, maybe you people watched just season 1, and be honest, star trek tng season 1 was also not that good. so i hoped stargate atlantis would improve, it never did.

    sliders and stargate, nice sci-fi flics, sliders more lightminded, but enjoyable. once again, whats the problem you have with it?

  • groskino

    seriously people, whats all that noise about stargate? the series was made clever, with somewhat good, enjoyable actors.
    okay, i watched season 1-10, the first seasons several times, maybe you people watched just season 1, and be honest, star trek tng season 1 was also not that good. so i hoped stargate atlantis would improve, it never did.

    sliders and stargate, nice sci-fi flics, sliders more lightminded, but enjoyable. once again, whats the problem you have with it?

  • groskino

    seriously people, whats all that noise about stargate? the series was made clever, with somewhat good, enjoyable actors.
    okay, i watched season 1-10, the first seasons several times, maybe you people watched just season 1, and be honest, star trek tng season 1 was also not that good. so i hoped stargate atlantis would improve, it never did.

    sliders and stargate, nice sci-fi flics, sliders more lightminded, but enjoyable. once again, whats the problem you have with it?

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    @groskino

    Stargate made too many trips to the “science is magic” well. Richard Dean Anderson is an atrocious actor and his self-aware quips were unfunny. When he left, he was replaced by the dude and chick from Farscape who (surprisingly) did a good job. Like, I watched all of seasons 9 and 10 for Claudia Black alone.

    Like you said, in the later seasons the Ori storyline had the makings of a good plot. But the quest to Planet Camelot was by-the-numbers and weak dramatically. “Merlin” looked like an entertainer for a children’s birthday party. The robe, the scepter, the wizard hat which looked like the Chistopher’s Llyod’s in “Pagemaster”. Oh man. That was dreadful.

    Stargate: Antanlis is the pinnacle of mediocrity; a successor to Andromeda and all the rest of the feel-good Trek ripoffs with no originally or effort.

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    @groskino

    Stargate made too many trips to the “science is magic” well. Richard Dean Anderson is an atrocious actor and his self-aware quips were unfunny. When he left, he was replaced by the dude and chick from Farscape who (surprisingly) did a good job. Like, I watched all of seasons 9 and 10 for Claudia Black alone.

    Like you said, in the later seasons the Ori storyline had the makings of a good plot. But the quest to Planet Camelot was by-the-numbers and weak dramatically. “Merlin” looked like an entertainer for a children’s birthday party. The robe, the scepter, the wizard hat which looked like the Chistopher’s Llyod’s in “Pagemaster”. Oh man. That was dreadful.

    Stargate: Antanlis is the pinnacle of mediocrity; a successor to Andromeda and all the rest of the feel-good Trek ripoffs with no originally or effort.

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    @groskino

    Stargate made too many trips to the “science is magic” well. Richard Dean Anderson is an atrocious actor and his self-aware quips were unfunny. When he left, he was replaced by the dude and chick from Farscape who (surprisingly) did a good job. Like, I watched all of seasons 9 and 10 for Claudia Black alone.

    Like you said, in the later seasons the Ori storyline had the makings of a good plot. But the quest to Planet Camelot was by-the-numbers and weak dramatically. “Merlin” looked like an entertainer for a children’s birthday party. The robe, the scepter, the wizard hat which looked like the Chistopher’s Llyod’s in “Pagemaster”. Oh man. That was dreadful.

    Stargate: Antanlis is the pinnacle of mediocrity; a successor to Andromeda and all the rest of the feel-good Trek ripoffs with no originally or effort.

  • groskino

    at first, i fully a agree with johnnyfog about what he said concerning stargate: atlantis.

    why i do that? why i liked stargate sg1? because of its consideration of revolution as legal and justified mean to achive emancipation and liberty. what is also the reason why i disliked stargate sg1. why only the jaffa are allowed to have a struggle for liberty?, while everything is fine withhin earth. look, i have problems to acknowledge any army, of any state, on this world to be a herold of social justice and to champignon democracy and liberty. not a single one. sg1 does, but why? what was the intention of the writers, the producers?
    did they actually believe the us air-force is a giver of liberty, did they inted to make the series a consciess, like things should be. what was the purpuse? i dont understand. or i hesitate to draw the obviously conclusion. the fall of bourgeoise liberalism, the decline of democracy, is also the fall of science fiction. okay, if you consider sci-fi as a random wing fighter shoot em up, you wont bother and will consider me for complete nutball.
    but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.

    to conclude with an enjoyable note: to johnnyfog: what do think of amanda tapping? i like claudia black, alright, also teryl rothery (for me, the number one of the female cast)

  • groskino

    at first, i fully a agree with johnnyfog about what he said concerning stargate: atlantis.

    why i do that? why i liked stargate sg1? because of its consideration of revolution as legal and justified mean to achive emancipation and liberty. what is also the reason why i disliked stargate sg1. why only the jaffa are allowed to have a struggle for liberty?, while everything is fine withhin earth. look, i have problems to acknowledge any army, of any state, on this world to be a herold of social justice and to champignon democracy and liberty. not a single one. sg1 does, but why? what was the intention of the writers, the producers?
    did they actually believe the us air-force is a giver of liberty, did they inted to make the series a consciess, like things should be. what was the purpuse? i dont understand. or i hesitate to draw the obviously conclusion. the fall of bourgeoise liberalism, the decline of democracy, is also the fall of science fiction. okay, if you consider sci-fi as a random wing fighter shoot em up, you wont bother and will consider me for complete nutball.
    but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.

    to conclude with an enjoyable note: to johnnyfog: what do think of amanda tapping? i like claudia black, alright, also teryl rothery (for me, the number one of the female cast)

  • groskino

    at first, i fully a agree with johnnyfog about what he said concerning stargate: atlantis.

    why i do that? why i liked stargate sg1? because of its consideration of revolution as legal and justified mean to achive emancipation and liberty. what is also the reason why i disliked stargate sg1. why only the jaffa are allowed to have a struggle for liberty?, while everything is fine withhin earth. look, i have problems to acknowledge any army, of any state, on this world to be a herold of social justice and to champignon democracy and liberty. not a single one. sg1 does, but why? what was the intention of the writers, the producers?
    did they actually believe the us air-force is a giver of liberty, did they inted to make the series a consciess, like things should be. what was the purpuse? i dont understand. or i hesitate to draw the obviously conclusion. the fall of bourgeoise liberalism, the decline of democracy, is also the fall of science fiction. okay, if you consider sci-fi as a random wing fighter shoot em up, you wont bother and will consider me for complete nutball.
    but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.

    to conclude with an enjoyable note: to johnnyfog: what do think of amanda tapping? i like claudia black, alright, also teryl rothery (for me, the number one of the female cast)

  • Fatkraken

    “but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.”

    I’m not sure what you mean. why must there be a “remedy”? do you mean they show us the solution to being human? ’cause humanity (and in most SF, aliens are basically humanity with funny hats) has been bickering and fighting and lying since before we came out of the trees, and will continue to so it until we stop being human by evolution or extinction. GOOD SF drama can do all the moral ambiguity that you want, it’s just rare to see it on TV because fluff is easier to franchise.

    I sorta liked this entry because Sliders was utter fluff for the most part (enjoyable in places but ultimately dumb as a brick), whereas this entry tries to turn it into something with a bit more depth. Needlessly adding darkness where none was needed? perhaps, but that’s what people said about the new BSG

  • Fatkraken

    “but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.”

    I’m not sure what you mean. why must there be a “remedy”? do you mean they show us the solution to being human? ’cause humanity (and in most SF, aliens are basically humanity with funny hats) has been bickering and fighting and lying since before we came out of the trees, and will continue to so it until we stop being human by evolution or extinction. GOOD SF drama can do all the moral ambiguity that you want, it’s just rare to see it on TV because fluff is easier to franchise.

    I sorta liked this entry because Sliders was utter fluff for the most part (enjoyable in places but ultimately dumb as a brick), whereas this entry tries to turn it into something with a bit more depth. Needlessly adding darkness where none was needed? perhaps, but that’s what people said about the new BSG

  • Fatkraken

    “but, finally, thats the problem i have with sci-fi in generall, even good ones, the writers and producers are able to display societies wrongs to a certain degree, then stop, and refuse to display consequent remedy.”

    I’m not sure what you mean. why must there be a “remedy”? do you mean they show us the solution to being human? ’cause humanity (and in most SF, aliens are basically humanity with funny hats) has been bickering and fighting and lying since before we came out of the trees, and will continue to so it until we stop being human by evolution or extinction. GOOD SF drama can do all the moral ambiguity that you want, it’s just rare to see it on TV because fluff is easier to franchise.

    I sorta liked this entry because Sliders was utter fluff for the most part (enjoyable in places but ultimately dumb as a brick), whereas this entry tries to turn it into something with a bit more depth. Needlessly adding darkness where none was needed? perhaps, but that’s what people said about the new BSG

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    If I had my pick I’d go with Claudia Black over Tapping. There is simply nothing the chick cannot do. It’s too bad about the accent, because she doesn’t do a lot in the states lately (and her american accent is crap).

    That is not to say Tapping isn’t good. I associate her too closely with O’Neil, so lose a few points there. But her chemistry with Ben Browder (RDA replacement) was very good. I liked their relationship, it was less strained.

    As for the ‘US Army as the paladins of liberty’ stuff….I think it’s best not to read too much into. I mean, do YOU want the military crawling all over alien planets with their rifles, sending bombs through portals to wipe out celestial beings, and keeping it secret from the public? Just sayin’.

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    If I had my pick I’d go with Claudia Black over Tapping. There is simply nothing the chick cannot do. It’s too bad about the accent, because she doesn’t do a lot in the states lately (and her american accent is crap).

    That is not to say Tapping isn’t good. I associate her too closely with O’Neil, so lose a few points there. But her chemistry with Ben Browder (RDA replacement) was very good. I liked their relationship, it was less strained.

    As for the ‘US Army as the paladins of liberty’ stuff….I think it’s best not to read too much into. I mean, do YOU want the military crawling all over alien planets with their rifles, sending bombs through portals to wipe out celestial beings, and keeping it secret from the public? Just sayin’.

  • http://dukeofdorks.blogspot.com/ johnnyfog

    If I had my pick I’d go with Claudia Black over Tapping. There is simply nothing the chick cannot do. It’s too bad about the accent, because she doesn’t do a lot in the states lately (and her american accent is crap).

    That is not to say Tapping isn’t good. I associate her too closely with O’Neil, so lose a few points there. But her chemistry with Ben Browder (RDA replacement) was very good. I liked their relationship, it was less strained.

    As for the ‘US Army as the paladins of liberty’ stuff….I think it’s best not to read too much into. I mean, do YOU want the military crawling all over alien planets with their rifles, sending bombs through portals to wipe out celestial beings, and keeping it secret from the public? Just sayin’.

  • StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    The whole concept of the universe ripping itself apart is a good one. Maybey spoony’s problem is its not original. I remember a Spiderman the Animated Series episode with the same story (the one involving the portals and the Dot guy)
    Otherwise, its an excellent idea.
    Noah should definitely at least doodle with the idea on this website.

  • StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    The whole concept of the universe ripping itself apart is a good one. Maybey spoony’s problem is its not original. I remember a Spiderman the Animated Series episode with the same story (the one involving the portals and the Dot guy)
    Otherwise, its an excellent idea.
    Noah should definitely at least doodle with the idea on this website.

  • StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    The whole concept of the universe ripping itself apart is a good one. Maybey spoony’s problem is its not original. I remember a Spiderman the Animated Series episode with the same story (the one involving the portals and the Dot guy)
    Otherwise, its an excellent idea.
    Noah should definitely at least doodle with the idea on this website.

  • Lockgar

    @StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    I believe they did an episode where carnage decited to blow up all existance. “Blow up, absorb in an infinite black hole, same idea.” If I am thinking about the same episode as you.

    The idea was similar, but I don’t think it was the same as this.

  • Lockgar

    @StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    I believe they did an episode where carnage decited to blow up all existance. “Blow up, absorb in an infinite black hole, same idea.” If I am thinking about the same episode as you.

    The idea was similar, but I don’t think it was the same as this.

  • Lockgar

    @StuffedAnimalAdvisor

    I believe they did an episode where carnage decited to blow up all existance. “Blow up, absorb in an infinite black hole, same idea.” If I am thinking about the same episode as you.

    The idea was similar, but I don’t think it was the same as this.

  • Fatkraken

    The idea that dimension hopping/matter transfer causes key imbalances in the fundamental forces of nature is much much older that some spiderman cartoon. Try Isacc Asimov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves in 1972, where a method of transferring matter across dimensions screws with the strong nuclear force and threatens to blow up the sun. As for damage caused by people dimension jumping, the recentish book trilogy “his Dark Materials” involves more magical based dimension hopping via portals which are eventually abandoned and closed because they cause the particles that carry the essense of conciousness to leak out around the edges.

  • Fatkraken

    The idea that dimension hopping/matter transfer causes key imbalances in the fundamental forces of nature is much much older that some spiderman cartoon. Try Isacc Asimov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves in 1972, where a method of transferring matter across dimensions screws with the strong nuclear force and threatens to blow up the sun. As for damage caused by people dimension jumping, the recentish book trilogy “his Dark Materials” involves more magical based dimension hopping via portals which are eventually abandoned and closed because they cause the particles that carry the essense of conciousness to leak out around the edges.

  • Fatkraken

    The idea that dimension hopping/matter transfer causes key imbalances in the fundamental forces of nature is much much older that some spiderman cartoon. Try Isacc Asimov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Themselves in 1972, where a method of transferring matter across dimensions screws with the strong nuclear force and threatens to blow up the sun. As for damage caused by people dimension jumping, the recentish book trilogy “his Dark Materials” involves more magical based dimension hopping via portals which are eventually abandoned and closed because they cause the particles that carry the essense of conciousness to leak out around the edges.

  • Dave

    Hey, at least you wouldn’t kill off Wade and the professor for no fucking reason.

  • Dave

    Hey, at least you wouldn’t kill off Wade and the professor for no fucking reason.

  • Dave

    Hey, at least you wouldn’t kill off Wade and the professor for no fucking reason.

  • Disthron

    I have to say, this hole thing about people adding mass to the universe suddenly makes it implode brakes my suspension of disbelieve. One of the reasons I never really watched Eurika is becouse in the very first episode some guy made something travel faster than the speed of light and suddenly the universe was unraveling. The instant that part played out I was broken out of the show and thought “No, if we discover a way to travel faster than the speed of light then it was always possible it’s just that we had not yet figured it out”. Which broke my suspension of disbelieve, that I never got back when watching that show.

  • Disthron

    I have to say, this hole thing about people adding mass to the universe suddenly makes it implode brakes my suspension of disbelieve. One of the reasons I never really watched Eurika is becouse in the very first episode some guy made something travel faster than the speed of light and suddenly the universe was unraveling. The instant that part played out I was broken out of the show and thought “No, if we discover a way to travel faster than the speed of light then it was always possible it’s just that we had not yet figured it out”. Which broke my suspension of disbelieve, that I never got back when watching that show.

  • Disthron

    I have to say, this hole thing about people adding mass to the universe suddenly makes it implode brakes my suspension of disbelieve. One of the reasons I never really watched Eurika is becouse in the very first episode some guy made something travel faster than the speed of light and suddenly the universe was unraveling. The instant that part played out I was broken out of the show and thought “No, if we discover a way to travel faster than the speed of light then it was always possible it’s just that we had not yet figured it out”. Which broke my suspension of disbelieve, that I never got back when watching that show.

  • EL66K

    Love it!

  • EL66K

    Love it!

  • EL66K

    Love it!

  • FiniNevermore

    My God, that was freakin’ brilliant.

    I read theories of time travel and wormholes for fun (god, I need a life) and I always knew somehow that it wouldn’t work, but because science gives me a headache, I could never fully wrap my head around why. This is EPIC. I guess you’re going with the Schrodinger’s butterfly approach. And to add frosting to the cake, there’s the perfect premise for my favorite sci-fi show of all time, Sliders. Or on a more personal scale, my second favorite sci-fi show of all time, Quantum Leap. This post is titled completely wrong. If anyone can bring back Sliders to its former glory, it’s you.

  • FiniNevermore

    My God, that was freakin’ brilliant.

    I read theories of time travel and wormholes for fun (god, I need a life) and I always knew somehow that it wouldn’t work, but because science gives me a headache, I could never fully wrap my head around why. This is EPIC. I guess you’re going with the Schrodinger’s butterfly approach. And to add frosting to the cake, there’s the perfect premise for my favorite sci-fi show of all time, Sliders. Or on a more personal scale, my second favorite sci-fi show of all time, Quantum Leap. This post is titled completely wrong. If anyone can bring back Sliders to its former glory, it’s you.

  • FiniNevermore

    My God, that was freakin’ brilliant.

    I read theories of time travel and wormholes for fun (god, I need a life) and I always knew somehow that it wouldn’t work, but because science gives me a headache, I could never fully wrap my head around why. This is EPIC. I guess you’re going with the Schrodinger’s butterfly approach. And to add frosting to the cake, there’s the perfect premise for my favorite sci-fi show of all time, Sliders. Or on a more personal scale, my second favorite sci-fi show of all time, Quantum Leap. This post is titled completely wrong. If anyone can bring back Sliders to its former glory, it’s you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/pvtcaboose-1 pvtcaboose

    OMG ur a genius, get urself printed in an effing sci-fi journal, geeks will rally behind or argue agaisnt this amazing concept forever, it really seems like you could just rewrite this just enough so that u can really tell its a fan-fic, I mean really all these ideas are really original, they just revolve around existing concepts and characters, replace the chars and modify the concept and you got EPIC!!! and yes it was “freakin’ Brilliant”

  • http://www.myspace.com/pvtcaboose-1 pvtcaboose

    OMG ur a genius, get urself printed in an effing sci-fi journal, geeks will rally behind or argue agaisnt this amazing concept forever, it really seems like you could just rewrite this just enough so that u can really tell its a fan-fic, I mean really all these ideas are really original, they just revolve around existing concepts and characters, replace the chars and modify the concept and you got EPIC!!! and yes it was “freakin’ Brilliant”

  • http://www.myspace.com/pvtcaboose-1 pvtcaboose

    OMG ur a genius, get urself printed in an effing sci-fi journal, geeks will rally behind or argue agaisnt this amazing concept forever, it really seems like you could just rewrite this just enough so that u can really tell its a fan-fic, I mean really all these ideas are really original, they just revolve around existing concepts and characters, replace the chars and modify the concept and you got EPIC!!! and yes it was “freakin’ Brilliant”

  • Tokolosh

    And you’re putting this forward as an example of why you SHOULDN’T write screenplays, man? This is a freaking great idea to reinvigorate an entire franchise. I never actually watched the show myself, so I can’t comment on any of the actual details, but the ideas you’ve put forward here are awesome, and should really be explored further.

    Shine on, ye crazy Spoony!

    - Toko.

  • Tokolosh

    And you’re putting this forward as an example of why you SHOULDN’T write screenplays, man? This is a freaking great idea to reinvigorate an entire franchise. I never actually watched the show myself, so I can’t comment on any of the actual details, but the ideas you’ve put forward here are awesome, and should really be explored further.

    Shine on, ye crazy Spoony!

    - Toko.

  • Tokolosh

    And you’re putting this forward as an example of why you SHOULDN’T write screenplays, man? This is a freaking great idea to reinvigorate an entire franchise. I never actually watched the show myself, so I can’t comment on any of the actual details, but the ideas you’ve put forward here are awesome, and should really be explored further.

    Shine on, ye crazy Spoony!

    - Toko.

  • Pheonix_blu

    I'm actually more of a reader than a gamer, but that's awesome! I would totally read a book based aroung that concept! I think you should try your hand at writing a novel.

  • f f

    That’s a really cool idea. 

    Star Trek, Sliders, and Stargate were all premises with the intention of allowing sci-fi authors to tell any sort of short story with a consistent cast involved. But each of them reached a point where instead of unrelated sci-fi short-stories with varying premises they followed wars that took place over several episodes. In Sliders it was the Kromaggs. In Stargate it’s the go’auld, replicants, wraith, and ori.
     The entropy problem’s cool b/c it’s a metaphysical concept as opposed to a flesh-and-blood enemy. They could continue traveling, perhaps going to where the biggest holes are to close them, and as they travel they find even stranger worlds, altered by entropy, encounter some of the beings that made those holes, and eventually find they’ve worsened the problem by linking the most damaged dimensions. 

  • Cutler Fortner

    “I’m prone to howling random quotes from Dune at innocent, bewildered people at little provocation”
    Anyone else picturing Spoony quietly standing in line at Wendy’s before shouting “My name is a killing word!”, or is it just me?

    • fatalrob0t

      I can. And I do this on occasion. >.>

  • faeyr

    Hi Spoony,

    Saw your twitter post/reminder of this, but not actually on twitter myself. Anyway, if you’re reading this, I just wanted to say the idea still works. I’d watch the shit out of this.

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