Let’s Riff on Ripper – Act 3, Part 4

The Spoony One | Jan 27 2010 | more notation(s) | 

Witness the stunning conclusion to this chilling cyber-murder mystery! Have you figured out who the Ripper is? Find out!

  • ninjawii

    Great job spoony loved it.

  • http://twitter.com/KatKaleen KatKaleen

    I already saw this on blip-tv but I want to point one thing out:
    For a professional reporter, Quinlan has an amazingly fast two-finger-typing technique! :-D
    That slayed me.

    • http://twitter.com/Sjuge Andreas Lundh

      I noticed that too. It’s probably the least of this games worries though. The Ripper was whoever you decided to shoot with your magical cyberspace shuriken? Lame.Good job anyway. Riffing is Spoony at his best.

    • http://twitter.com/Sjuge Andreas Lundh

      I noticed that too. It’s probably the least of this games worries though. The Ripper was whoever you decided to shoot with your magical cyberspace shuriken? Lame.Good job anyway. Riffing is Spoony at his best.

    • http://twitter.com/Sjuge Andreas Lundh

      I noticed that too. It’s probably the least of this games worries though. The Ripper was whoever you decided to shoot with your magical cyberspace shuriken? Lame.Good job anyway. Riffing is Spoony at his best.

    • http://twitter.com/Sjuge Andreas Lundh

      I noticed that too. It’s probably the least of this games worries though. The Ripper was whoever you decided to shoot with your magical cyberspace shuriken? Lame.Good job anyway. Riffing is Spoony at his best.

  • ninjawii

    oh yeah Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 try it.

  • LotusPrince

    At long last, the epic conclusion! Congratulations on another job well done, Spoony!

  • rucent

    What the fuck?

  • tyrannus007

    Wow, what a disappointing ending. Good job, Spoony.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Soto/1548354783 Matthew Soto

    Heh, I've pegged Magnatta from the start. I guess I was wrong *shrugs*

  • CalebTheTimeTraveler

    Shoulda gone with the Triple Triad joke instead of Yu-Gi-Oh.

  • walmor

    I fought this would be better…

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, accidental double-post.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TimADugan Tim Dugan

    So…wait, is the game different every time you play it? Or can you peg anyone of the four and be right?

  • Anonymous

    Talk about some lame endings, all they did was swap slightly different sound clips and apply them all to the same boring scene. Not to mention that the only deciding factor is who you decide to shoot at the very end. Laziness abounds!

    Btw, I loved the 10th kingdom clips. Out of context, you wouldn’t realize that they’re actually from a fantasy movie (the psycho guy is a werewolf)

  • BraveDave88

    I forgot how utterly well, forgettable and bland this game's ending(s) was(were). I only ever saw the Burton one, I guess its a case of writing yourself into a corner of an already wonky plot.

    Tex Murphy is next I hear? I imagine it'd be a challenge to riff in some ways, as its a far better game than either FMV game you've played so far. But in others it IS rather comedy gold. The hardest one to riff I'd say would be The Beast Within, probably the best example of what FMV was capable of achieving. But hey, even that had some fun parts.

  • ninjawii

    How, How the hell do you make no correct end villan. Obviously Burton.

  • Anonymous

    How would you know if it’s any of the suspects? Is the gameplay different everytime?

  • Meshi

    So wait, they all could have been the Ripper? What an epic failure of writing.

  • alfredmordeir

    What exactly were the clues that would actually lead you to determining which one is the Ripper? Did I miss something?

  • rcrkar3

    what you planning on reviewing next spoony you should do the conclusion of swat

  • mrwednesdaynight

    I can't express my disappointment in this game. What is the point of going through all of that trouble if there really is no way to lose the game? And how exactly is Catherine a suspect? I could rant for a paragraph on why that makes no sense alone. Other than getting stuck on some of the games Rube Goldberg puzzles, is there really anyway to lose the game, outside of the one lame ending where Quinlan dies? It reminds me of Monster A-Go-Go where in the end there is no monster. Well, Ripper is a mystery game with no mystery. You don't solve a murder mystery. Just take a pick and you will be right no matter what. That was a great series of videos, Spoony. Very funny. But that game had a lousy ending.

  • Kevin_Holsinger

    Actually, the first time I played this, Magnotta was the Ripper. It changes randomly each time you play it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Soto/1548354783 Matthew Soto

      I know, I was just saying from the ending that Spoony got.

      • Anonymous

        My apologies. It’s just that a lot of people here were apparently unfamiliar with this game, and were confused by the ending.

      • Anonymous

        My apologies. It’s just that a lot of people here were apparently unfamiliar with this game, and were confused by the ending.

      • Anonymous

        My apologies. It’s just that a lot of people here were apparently unfamiliar with this game, and were confused by the ending.

      • Anonymous

        My apologies. It’s just that a lot of people here were apparently unfamiliar with this game, and were confused by the ending.

  • Anonymous

    BOOOO this game. What happened? Did they run out of money to pay the actors for a decent ending? Did they write themselves into a corner?They should have just made Magnotta the Ripper and called it a day.Oh well. Great review Spoony.

  • SignNinja

    So wait, was it Catherine? Magnotta? Which was the right one??

  • http://www.facebook.com/aron.marczylo Aron Marczylo

    It must've been Catherine…right? The ripper voice being on the monkey and everything…who did it?

  • Kevin_Holsinger

    The Ripper is randomly chosen each time you play. And so that doesn't sound like a complete cheat, each Ripper comes with different scenes and clues. If memory serves, Eddie presents an altered picture of Magnotta in a different scenario (as compared to the reverse in Spoony's scenario). In fact, I could have sworn that if you got an altered picture, whoever gave it to you was the Ripper, yet it seemed Burton was the Ripper in Spoony's scenario despite having nothing to do with the picture.

    My point is, it's not like you play out the same story each time, pick a Ripper, and hope that chance rewards you. Different clues lead to different Rippers. And if you pick the wrong Ripper, you die.

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t played the game, but according to some research, the game can end any of those 4 ways, with the only real branch showing up at the beginning of the 3rd act.
      If you get the picture of Falconetti, the killer is Magnotta.
      If you get the picture of Magnotta, the killer is Falconetti.
      If you get no picture, but the guy at police station says there were prints on the knife (matched to Haman), the killer is Catherine.
      If you get no picture, and no prints were found on the knife, the killer is Burton.

  • SignNinja

    No wait, I got it! It was the Duck Mafia! They work with the rage monkeys, get a little on the side, make it specifically hard to find out who did what making it seem like everyone's a suspect, only to distract the police and Quinlan from the Rage Monkey uprising! What you didn't see after the end credits was immediately after the Virtual Herald printed the story, the rage monkeys attacked! IT IS THE END OF TIMES!!! REPENT FOR THE MONKEYS AND THE DUCKS HAVE COME TOGETHER!!!!

  • TomeOne

    Now play it again and again to get a different Ripper identity. :v

  • Anonymous

    A bit anti climactic, don’t ya think? If the ripper changes every time do you get alternate clues or just the end “fight” outcome? I’m a bit disappointed with the ending. Is there any scenes after that typing one? So many questions left unanswered!

  • Gelatinous_cube

    Actually, the game changes in the third act by providing different clues to who the killer is. for instance you may have gotten a falsified photo of Magnotta (given to you by Falconetti) instead of the other way round. or you might have found out that the knife you scanned over at the Woffords place had Hamans prints on it. ETC.

    so in essence the story was written so anyone could be it, but you could still screw up and pick the wrong one, if you didn't catch the clues. (actually as far as i can recall, the version Spoony just played (where Magnotta gives you the pic of Falconetti) should have ended with Magnotta as the killer… but then again my recollection isn't as clear as it could be).

  • Anonymous

    Incredibly funny, all of them. Next you’ll have to do Hitman 2.

    And we’re actually discussing about mitosis at school. :3

  • Anonymous

    That was amazing. The only thing is that this is the last episode. I bet you have like tons of suggestions of games that you could riff, but think about Hitman 2. You’ll understand if you’ve played it.

    And we’re actually discussing about mitosis at school. What a coincidence!

  • James12357

    I can't say how disappointing that ending is

  • riftwolf

    It seems if the clues are randomly generated as people have commented, the game should have endings that reflect the fact you killed the wrong person rather than a lame 'You may or may not have picked the wrong one, good job someone's going to blow up Whitechapel anyway, huh' ending.
    My guess all along was the program itself was the killer; it had achieved semi-sentience, and had access to Burton's notes on brain research from her accessing the game. I didn't think it was Magnotta, as he was being set up as the antagonist from minute 1. Falconetti was a likely suspect, but again seemed too obvious a choice. Burton and Claire would've made no sense. With this kind of game I expect a twist like that. All in all a disappointing ending.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Hill/1495231329 Matthew Hill

    Two things…
    thing 1, dude's a two finger typist!
    thing 2, what order were those credits in? they're not by screen time or alphabetical or even order of appearance

  • http://cassave.deviantart.com/ Cassavius

    Great job 8D

  • PhoCarrot

    I'm going to have that song stuck in my head for weeks.
    It's kind of cool they tried to do the multiple endings thing. Of course, for how anti-climactic the ending turned out they probably should have just stuck with one story and filled it out a bit more… but hindsight's 20/20.

    Any holy crap, that boy's crazy! Why was he trying to roast an old woman?

  • meldar

    Did the way you kill the Ripper remind anyone else of Pokemon?

    Pokeball GO!

  • http://www.vaughnonmovies.com/ Vaughn On Movies

    Whose plan was it to NOT SPELL John Rhys-Davies?

  • Anonymous

    Actually watching you play this almost makes me want to go out and find this game. it had a really interesting plot. but there are a few things that will hold me back from getting it.

    1.) The endings. Simply fucking horrible. they had done a great job building up suspense and had such a good cast they shouldve done something better.

    2.) The puzzles. some of these puzzles i never had figured out without a walkthrough which kinda defeats the point of an adventure game.

    3.) Unskippable transitions.

    Although this has definitely been one of the best fmv games they ive ever seen, better than phantasmagoria 2 imo.

    This game, was unfucking believable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Friedman/641803004 Matt Friedman

    I thought that the Ripper was Magnotta.

  • spazoutloud

    Wow…..that was balls……monkey balls!!

  • Nihilus

    my guess was similar. I expected the killer to be all 3 of them. Burton, Magnotta, and Falconetti. Would have been a much more interesting twist especially with the cliche of setting someone up as the killer and saying it isn't them (Magnotta) only for it to turn out to be them… And two others!

  • http://twitter.com/luzeke Lukas Hägg

    Good job on the videos Spoony, but man was that a dissapointing end to the game.
    The whole point when solving a murder mystery is figuring out the motive, and Quinlin didn't even solve that.
    What were the motives of any of them? I figured Magnotti would be the ripper from Act 2 though, because he was so incredibly off-beat and crazy (knife incident anyone?).

    I'd say that they were all rippers (simultaneously, not just endings-wise) because the game had warped their brains into killer monkey brains.

  • http://twitter.com/DANfan69 Kaohe Alama-Francis

    With the way it paced itself, I thought that it was gonna be Magnotta in the end, but Burton's defiance of the monkey rebellion experiments kind of bought it full circle. I really think that the game, not the person warped their minds and made whomever was the Ripper black out and not even know if they were the Ripper.

    By the way he was acting though, Magnotta could have been the Ripper even if he didn't play the game.

    And seriously, the guy who played Quinlan would have been perfect as one of the Ripper choices by his crazy performance as the guy wanting to cook up an old lady for Christmas dinner!

  • http://www.facebook.com/wizardofxenia Andrew Michael Brown

    Wow. What an utterly, utterly dull ending. I expected far better to be honest, which is probably why I'm so disappointed. The Whitechapel could have been a lot better, and that half-assed conclusion with Quinlan typing on the keyboard is…I mean couldn't they have given all the characters a role in the finale?!? Oh well…

    But still BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA@your secret ending…

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  • palladinthug

    The main difference is the emergence of certain clues, which is random each game.

  • silhouettesrocks

    YAY 10TH KINGDOM REFERENCES!!!! I was hoping I wasn't the only one who knew that Quinlan (Scott Cohen) was in that too. That was actually the mini-series that introduced me to that guy and I had a schoolgirl crush on him for months after seeing that…idk maybe I just like bad boy half-breeds lol.

    • Anonymous

      Wolfies just pretend to do naughty things.

    • Anonymous

      Wolfies just pretend to do naughty things.

    • Anonymous

      Wolfies just pretend to do naughty things.

    • Anonymous

      Wolfies just pretend to do naughty things.

    • Anonymous

      Me too! XD YAY!!

    • Anonymous

      Me too! XD YAY!!

    • Anonymous

      Me too! XD YAY!!

    • Anonymous

      Me too! XD YAY!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Caitlyn-Conboy/1840594917 Caitlyn Conboy

      Only months? I started off with a schoolgirl crush on him, watched the mini-series again in Middle School and developed a teenager crush on him, bought the series 3 years ago and cemented my adult-female long-term infatuation with the character.

      I was smitten as soon as he asked Virginia to pet his tail. It’s a wonder that I remained reasonably sane and didn’t go down the long, dark, creepy path of furrydom.

  • ollyfrancis

    soooo whos the ripper?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Bell/7600432 Justin Bell

    Once again, great work Spoony. Though what a let down of a finish from that game. You had introduced the concept of a monkey uprising and that was way more interesting and entertaining than what they gave us instead. Boo on Ripper.

    Yay for Spoony writing alternate endings to underacheiving video games.

  • QuetzaDrake

    I say it was the monkey. Even before getting his brain messed with, I bet that monkey just hated humanity from the get-go, locking him up in cages.

    Now, though, with his cybernetic implants, he got his REVENGE!

  • Anonymous

    Okay, how the hell does this game score an 8.6 on IMDB? The people there must be bat-guano insane.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Luke-Pallesen/707606671 Luke Pallesen

    I actually had Paul Giamatti as my main suspect…just seemed far too helfpful…I'm watching you wine boy!

  • archedgar

    Horrible ending.

    I thought it would either be Katherine(Not helpful, mysteriously survived the attack) or Burton's Assistant, Paul Giammati, he ACTED very helpful but never actually did anything for you and in fact made things harder(The image is up, we can see the Ripper! OH WAIT NEVERMIND!….. fix the computer and you might find something…. etc etc.)

    These endings don't explain what happened to the first girl who died in the original Ripper game because if the killer is interchangeable it means that the whole game and the clues were totally pointless.

    @*#$#@%&

    Great video though Spoony.

    • Anonymous

      “These endings don’t explain what happened to the first girl who died in the original Ripper game because if the killer is interchangeable it means that the whole game and the clues were totally pointless.”

      The clues in the game are different depending on who the game picks as the Ripper and I’m pretty certain there’s some random red herrings here and there though. It’s similar to the Blade Runner game in that regard.

  • thedickster

    So… they ALL did it?…

  • IIWebbII

    What a fucking cop out! I was so invested in the story, and I was so pumped to find out how the ripper was and they make it so EVERYONE is the ripper? Most games that have alternate endings they at least have one TRUE ending. *sigh*

    Not your fault Spoony-man, I still had loads of fun, and the Walken impressions were awesome!

    For a future FMV lets play, why not do Phantasmagoria 1? That'd be un-fucking-believable.

  • thehivemind33

    That was a sucky ending. Oh well. Spoony managed to make it very epic in the end. :) We love yah, big guy! Keep up the great work! Your work so far has had me in stitches! ;)

    Oh and really off topic on this and I am sure someone has said so already, but spoony means to be in love but in a very mushy way. Which is why Tellah calls Edward a spoony bard. ;)

  • Deadite

    I thought i saw claire there can you shoot her?

  • joban

    Unless I'm mistaken, ripper came out in the late 90s, i think 96? And the Cowbell sketch was in 2000. So evidently Walken has quite a history with this song!

  • Gauphastus

    That… that was so incredibly lame.
    Maaaaaan. :|

  • http://twitter.com/MSkull01 Ely Reyes

    Seasons don't fear the Spooney, nor do the wind, the sun, or the cowbell.

    Great LP, Spooney! And those endings where just horrible (expect that “real” one).

  • zolt

    So they didn't have a clear killer in mind from the beginning? That's so fucking cheap. I guess Chris and Blue Oyster Cult had to be enough. I'll smoke a cigar to them.. HAU!

  • shadowdancer21b

    How underwhelming. The 10th Kingdom insert was awesome though! Great job Noah!

  • Tai_MT

    Wow… A murder mystery where the player chooses who the murderer was? That's pretty lame. That's kind of boring. They could've at least included some kind of “real ending” along with the “choose your ending” feature. Some ending where the real muderer is revealed. Or maybe where they all did it.

    Of course, I'd play this game for the Blue Oyster Cult song and Christopher Walken. I don't know why, but I like them both that much.

  • theryno665

    I didn't really have a prime suspect but I must say, David Patrick Kelly looks freakin' badass as the Ripper.

    On that note, with Ripper done, I quadruple-dog dare you to do a Let's Play for Foxhunt. I know you hate it but I think I only made it to Disc 2. I wonder what even happened to my copy of the game…

  • nocturnalnights

    Dis gai…ez uhn-fucking-believable!

    I couldn't imagine playing this back before the Intraweb. Especially getting to the end and beating it for a 6 second video of Quinlan typing like a grandma and spouting crap. The only thing epic about the ending was EPIC FAIL!

    Spoony, you roxorz!!1

  • nocturnalnights

    Dis gai…ez uhn-fucking-believable!

    I couldn't imagine playing this back before the Intraweb. Especially getting to the end and beating it for a 6 second video of Quinlan typing like a grandma and spouting crap. The only thing epic about the ending was EPIC FAIL!

    Spoony, you roxorz!!1

  • Strelnikov

    I watched the finale again and I'm still asking the question: why does Whitechapel have to explode like an `80s Schwarzenegger movie set* when it deletes itself? It would make more sense if it quickly began fading into nothing, first the smaller details like the lamp-posts, then the walls of buildings, then the outlines of the buildings, and finally the (badly rendered) cobblestome streets. The explosions were too cheesy.

    ___________________________________________________________
    * You know, first an explosion in the background, then a couple more, stuff begins falling from the ceiling and the floor is shaking, and now there are a bunch of explosions going off rat-a-tat-tat, and finally the hero jumps to safety as a fireball whooshes by his head, followed of a long shot of the building/ship/whatever going up like it was packed to the rafters with dynamite.

  • Hobohunter

    YES!! I love 10th Kingdom and Wolf. This is the best video EVER.

  • Eniliad

    This game deserved a better ending. Sure, it's stupid and over the top, but really that's what made it completely awesome! I would have actually tracked down this game for the entertainment value if it wasn't for the corny as hell ending.

    I'm actually kinda sad that it's over; Ripper's been an experience on this site for me for about as long as I've known about Spoony. Ah well, on to the next crappy game, am I right?

  • pheathos

    me to. i was really enjoying it. though some of the puzzles woulda really pissed me off

  • BrendanConcannon

    In my ending, I would have made it so that the main character was the murderer! Kind of like Phantasmagoria 2!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vincent-Kresse/100000039787473 Vincent Kresse

    It's time to Ri, Ri, Rriiiiiipppppppp

    Man that was unfucking believable

  • http://twitter.com/finerion Alfred Bonnabel

    Yeah, I was completely disappointed by the ending. It was almost like it was rushed or something. Such a let down when they did go to such a length to make the Ripper out to be such a deadly villain and to try to get you invested in the story.

  • http://stormlord.ca/id/JJ JJ

    From my understanding, it's actually randomly chosen for each game, and the third act plays out *subtly* different, depending on the game's choice for the Ripper (one of four, as was shown by Spoony). I think it's just a few different voice lines, to lead you to a slightly different conclusion, or something, though. I haven't played it, I was just curious enough to do a cursory search, mind you.

  • JerryPac

    Dammit, as corny as this game was I was actually starting to enjoy watching it unfold. I could have accepted a bad ending, that would have been fine, but they didn't even have the courtesy of wrapping the story up in a tangible way, even if it would have been stupidly executed. Who ever you want to be the ripper is the ripper? What a load.The point of a mystery is that it leads up to a single conclusive answer based on he clues given to you, this is just upsetting. Did the writer set up all those false leads to make all four characters look like they could be responsible only to realize that the trail didn't end anywhere? Whatever, you made it a funny ride to the end so I can't call it a total loss.

  • SkullCrusher

    Who else says the killer should have been the crazy Orville Redenbocker? Or a crazed monkey?

    • Vanlan

      Hyper Intelligent crazed monkey bent on revenge for the experiments done to it would have by far been the best :D. Creepy too.

      Considering the rest of the game, the ending seems extraordinarily week. It’s probably the shortest cut seen in the game.

      Hey Spoony, how about some Dark Forces 2? It has FMV.

    • Vanlan

      Hyper Intelligent crazed monkey bent on revenge for the experiments done to it would have by far been the best :D. Creepy too.

      Considering the rest of the game, the ending seems extraordinarily week. It’s probably the shortest cut seen in the game.

      Hey Spoony, how about some Dark Forces 2? It has FMV.

    • Vanlan

      Hyper Intelligent crazed monkey bent on revenge for the experiments done to it would have by far been the best :D. Creepy too.

      Considering the rest of the game, the ending seems extraordinarily week. It’s probably the shortest cut seen in the game.

      Hey Spoony, how about some Dark Forces 2? It has FMV.

    • Vanlan

      Hyper Intelligent crazed monkey bent on revenge for the experiments done to it would have by far been the best :D. Creepy too.

      Considering the rest of the game, the ending seems extraordinarily week. It’s probably the shortest cut seen in the game.

      Hey Spoony, how about some Dark Forces 2? It has FMV.

  • Anonymous

    So…when the ending comes, you’ve got four very likely suspects, and Quinlan can’t quite decide which one is the Ripper. All of them have evidence and clues against them, so really any of them could be the killer !

    …And the Ripper just happens to be the one you randomly decide to give a faceful of cyber-shuriken. Weak.

    I can just imagine what’s going on inside Quinlan’s head : “Gee, they’re all pretty suspicious, but they’re also kinda sympathetic…I don’t have enough evidence to decide, what should I do ? Oh what the heck, let’s just kill one of ‘em and say it was the Ripper all along.”

    Seriously, that dude is f***ed right up ! He just picks someone out of the suspect list and decides to kill them, but it’s okay because they were the killer…probably. That’s the kind of dilemma that should haunt you forever ! I mean in one of the endings, he just killed his girlfriend, but no biggie, all he has to say about is some lame editorial.

    Screw the Ripper, Quinlan’s the real sociopath here !

  • inamidato

    That's it? After so many hours of playing? How lame and disappointing. There's no final confrontation, no suspense, nothing. The final cut scene is basically the same one and it's also short and done in just one take. Good thing that Spoony posted this playthrough so I can avoid this game at all costs.

  • misterkeitel

    Wow! That was really good. I'm amazed that a non-gamer such as myself would be so fascinated by watching shows on gaming – such as riff that you and Linkara do, and Snapshots Larry. I'm also a very, very big fan of the 10th Kingdom. I've got the movie on VHS and have even sat down and read the whole 400 page novelization. Is that Nerdy or what? Ha.

  • Ran88

    The ending to the actual game my have sucked but the conclusion to your epic riffing certainly did not.

  • incrediblemulk

    I kept on waiting for a Doogie Howser reference at the end there. His typing along with the contemplative pause reminded me so much of that.

  • http://twitter.com/Suraht Greg Mitchell

    This is pretty much it. Some examples of how the third act changes: You may find out Vigo Haman's fingerprints are on the knife picked up after the attack on Wofford; Falconetti may have made a fake picture of Magnotta as the Ripper; you'll learn at the Warp Space well that someone with a c-space handle of Jack Rip or Clarence accessed the source code; Haman won't even be in the game at all; one of the Ripper calls would happen at the newsroom instead of Magnotta's apartment.

  • bloodhowl

    It needs more cowbell! ;P

  • natashabennett

    So…how's your girlfriend, Quinlan? Did Catherine ever wake up from her coma? Don't you think that deserves a mention? No? Oh, okay.

  • theshamster

    You know, Spoony, I actually thought that was you in that comical ending scene where the guy covers that woman with pepper and gets knocked out the window by that girl with a broom…He looks and acts just like you would in a mock thriller segment.

  • theshamster

    Apparently it varies from game to game and in act 3, there are slight clues to who really is the ripper.

    Choose the wrong one, or take too much time and you get murdered.

  • resulka

    Oh game, How disappointing.
    Pretty much I'd like to un-suspect Catherine. I don't know what hints lead up to her being the ripper in her case. But my main thing is this…
    IF SHE WAS THE RIPPER WHY DID SHE PUT HERSELF INTO A COMA? There's no way she could have known what time to strike out and kill when she was literally brain dead except for those brief flashes of brain activity.
    And as for who killed the mother? Whoever killed the mother would have made sense to be the ripper. Burton would have been interesting since she would have used the “We swapped roles, someone was actually trying to kill me!” as a plasible defense.
    Ah well.

  • http://www.gamespot.com/users/cornbredx CornBRED-X

    I love the tenth kingdom scenes you got into that. The people that made comments that dont know anything about that movie are missing out (of course thats my opinoin, i think that movie is hilarious and fun to watch).

    Anyway, this is definitely not the worst FMV game ever (Ive seen and played way worse then this, and you've even talked about some of the worse ones) but the endings were horrible.

    No matter which you get, the ending just feels like they took to long to develop the game so had to tack that on. Now of course I dont know how much you editted due to time but I do know you say you were only editting out moving from scene to scene so I can only believe that theres nothing to justify that horribly tacked on ending.

    It's kind of a shame as I wouldve liked it to be more engaging. It didnt even make any sense. I mean ya the whole time based on the clues you got we suspected what we found to be the Ripper in your playthrough (trying not to give spoilers in my comment) a long ass time ago, but that scene didnt bring us to a stunning shock moment where the killer (known or not) finally admits it or gets unmasked in the act. Just not well placed at all. Thats the real let down of the game to me.

    I'm also a bit sad there was no game coming into Noah's world moment like the end of Phantasmagoria 2. I guess this play through didnt have the same appeal as that one did. That and you hurt your foot so your limited right now. Im not knocking it tho, your riffs are still good as always, just saying that was missed =P

    The games endings are more of a let down then anything else.

  • http://twitter.com/iaro Isobel Allegra

    I was wondering when you were going to put a 10th Kingdom gag in, Spoony! Bravo! And it wouldn't have been a finale without the Clue-style multiple endings.
    Dang, I had forgotten how loopy Scott Cohen is in TK. It's true what TV Tropes says: you can pretty much replace every one of his lines (in the kitchen bit, anyway) with, “DID SOMEONE ORDER A LARGE HAM?!”
    Still love him, though. XD

  • http://twitter.com/iaro Isobel Allegra

    I think he did a Doogie Howser joke in one of the first Ripper vids.

  • http://twitter.com/iaro Isobel Allegra

    OMGYES! The 10th Kingdom was the shit when I was a kid. :)

    • Anonymous

      Heck yes! I have it on DVD!

    • Anonymous

      Heck yes! I have it on DVD!

    • Anonymous

      Heck yes! I have it on DVD!

    • Anonymous

      Heck yes! I have it on DVD!

  • Anonymous

    Wait, so every one of them was the Ripper? But at the same time not the Ripper? How dose that even make sence? Urg, my head hurts…

  • Anonymous

    Wait, so every one of them was the Ripper? But at the same time not the Ripper? How dose that even make sence? Urg, my head hurts…

  • Anonymous

    Wait, so every one of them was the Ripper? But at the same time not the Ripper? How dose that even make sence? Urg, my head hurts…

  • Anonymous

    Wait, so every one of them was the Ripper? But at the same time not the Ripper? How dose that even make sence? Urg, my head hurts…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Allison-Hanna/1460142119 Allison Hanna

    Chuck Norris should have been the ripper. His roundhouse kick would have made anyone explode. It could have been completely random too. No one would have suspected it.

  • thebadgamer

    Wait, so every one of them was the Ripper? But at the same time not the Ripper? How dose that even make sence? Urg, my head hurts…

  • Painkiller

    THANK you Spoony that truely did kick major ass!! I have been waiting for the ending for a while!

    To bad the butler didnt do it though.. oh wait.. that is Clue isnt it?

  • http://twitter.com/Zorintien Gregory Bogosian

    Seriously Catherine can be The Ripper? In that case who killed Josey? And who put her in a coma? And who did Quindlin shoot in the shoulder? (Joke)It would have made more sense if Quindlin had been the ripper. He benefited from this ordeal the most and he was the one snooping around other peoples apartments.(End joke)

  • EPSIL0N

    I think for the most part I suspected falconeti but it's hard to know with their fictional computer science if the other suspects would have had the skill to do such things.

  • Anonymous

    So there was no real ending? That sucks. Love the Clue reference! What was that psycho/cannibal clip from?

  • SplinterOfChaos

    Actually… Why did her brain activity spike during every ripper attack? At first i was thinking the ripper could be using her brain for extra processing power to execute whatever program does this, but now, i kinda think she's it.

    Putting herself in a coma is a good cover and it also brought her to Burton, who was the one who developed the technology the ripper uses, right? Also, it makes sense that she started to regain consciousness enough to pull off the grand finale.

    Cheesy and unsatisfying as the ending was, i enjoy thinking about the vaguenesses. Though, i think they could have done it better.

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  • EvilBloodGnome

    Weaksauce form of multiple endings. Should be like Clue where there are clues to who the killer was, not just whoever you picks is right.

    Still, a piece of gaming that should be used in acting classes everywhere showing off Walken. First watch the Deer Hunter, then this!

  • hwalsh

    What I don't get is how you figured out the Ripper's true identity. Technically it could have been any one of them even then there was no clear indication that it was the doctor. The game had no really good wrap up. :( Did Catherine wake up? Did Falconeti blame you for killing his Ex? Is Magnata still un-fucking-believable? Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Animikean

    I'll top that. I've watched it and all the DVD extras, it reveals Wolf is Riding Hood's grandson. Still can't figure out the logistics of that! :P

  • http://www.facebook.com/Rainy29 Patty Thornton

    Okay so I've read comments about the different clues and different endings. So the clues we saw and the build up was the Burton Ripper ending right? She is the one I had picked before we got to the end.

    Also, I loved the extra ending even though I'd never seen 10th Kingdom, it still made me laugh.

    Lastly, how did the main guy become a newspaper reporter when he can't even type? He only used 2 fingers! That's the craziest part of this game :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Caitlyn-Conboy/1840594917 Caitlyn Conboy

      Word to those who haven’t seen the 10th Kingdom. Rent it. Watch it.

      It’s worth the 7 or so hours. A decade old, still a good time.

  • Anonymous

    i hate multiple endings game like this
    fallout 3 like ending are ok
    as everyone said there are no big clues to who is the real ripper
    so all of them could of been the ripper and you only got one

  • Anonymous

    i hate multiple endings game like this
    fallout 3 like ending are ok
    as everyone said there are no big clues to who is the real ripper
    so all of them could of been the ripper and you only got one

  • scissors69viewer

    Love this game (with all it's faults:). Great cast, epic overacting, ambitious and often nonsensical subplots and very odd design choices. Great, great B-movie game.

    Anyway, the killer is his girlfriend. The game does a rotten thing. It picks the killer more or less randomly, although the only one with a clear motive, clear opportunity and the only one burdened by evidence is his girlfriend. She didn't know who killed her mother (this would be the into scene?), so she decided to take out all the players. This explains how she survived the Ripper attack, where all the brain activity came from and why she was so close to Quinlan (because he was the only one truly investigating the murders and she could keep an eye on him). Also, in the final FMV Quinlan narrates in all three other cases that he won't go into madmen's motives, but in “his girlfriend is the killer” ending he explains the motive thoroughly. Finally these kind of stories always have a twist at the end, and she being the killer would be the only major twist in the game (since the mutant monkeys plotline decided to go nowhere).

    The game probably had only this one ending but the creators decided to tack on others as possible killers because they thought this would extend the game's replay value.

    However there are still couple of questions. Who did Quinlan shoot and who killed her mother in the first place (and who the f is Clarence:). It's probable that Magnotta was the original killer (he wanted to kill Burton for leaving him but got the wrong girl when Burton and Catherine's mother switched roles and then pinned it on Falconetti for stealing Burton away from him) and that he attacked Burgess Meredith because he found out he new something about the events. Since the designers realised that thay had no budget left, but still had 100 hours of plotline to go, the last act left this plot thread opened.

    btw

    This game was waaay better (and cooler) than Black Dahlia by the same publisher. That game took itself way to seriously for it's mystical plotline.
    Maybe Spoony could try that one next. No Walken, but Dennis Hopper shows up for no reason in a scene or two.

    Back to this game. Let's face it. The ending everyone was waiting for would be if the Ripper was the Continental. We want the DLC now!:)

    Spoony did a great job on finding the Quinlan guy in The 10th kingdom. I couldn't remember a single role of his, and he did a fine job in the game.

  • amishman

    Awesome job Noah. But I got a question you showed that when you kill someone the Falcon pops out and runs up to you but what happens when you kill him?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Filipe-Isabelinho/100000173498272 Filipe Isabelinho

    It shoud've ended “…but I did not feel up to pondering the “plot holes” of this ending, not today anyhow.”

    I think that's what the developers said at the end of development, let's just wrap this up, screw the endng…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660601513 facebook-660601513

    The clip was from a mini-series called “The 10th kingdom” http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0207275/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Carpenter/1500543164 Jacob Carpenter

    Thanks for sharing this one. I almost bought this many times in the 90's and was always curious because of the cool intro cinematic (which I had seen on a demo CD somewhere when the game released). Also glad I didn't buy it; in the pre-Gamefaqs era I would never have been able to figure out half the puzzles. So you saved me that headache as well as god knows how many hours of swapping discs. Cheers to you, sir, and I hope you do more of these. I don't quite have the audacity to suggest anything, though I think it would be cool to play through a non-FMV game (*cough* I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream *cough* DreamWeb), but I understand that the point isn't so much to play the game as it is to play and mock it. Keep it up, sir.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660601513 facebook-660601513

    To be honest this wasn't my favorite among your Let's plays/Riffs. But it had more to do with the game itself then your riffs. The game was just so boring and uninteresting =/.

    I really loved the ending though ^^. It was so awesome and unexpected XD.

  • mikeandratm

    I was really digging Ripper up until Act 3. It just sort of came apart at the seams, after what I thought was, actually a pretty cool little story. I felt like Spoony didn't have much to work with at that point but until then, there's some really funny stuff! I loved all the Warriors references.

    Mike

  • capthavic

    Yeah that's what I thought too. I was genuinely interested to know who the ripper was but that was just unsatisfying to say the least.

  • http://www.facebook.com/manuel.baudisch Manuel Baudisch

    God, I love Scott Cohen. Say whatever you want about this guy, but I 'really' enjoy his acting. Overall, Ripper was… quite… entertaining, actually. Seeing it as some sort of 'direct-to-video thriller produced in canada', it is quite good at that. David Patrick Kelly's character was suprisingly smooth as well. I kinda dig it.

  • rocnael

    So wait…
    Did Spoony have the patience to sit through the game four times for the alternate endings ?
    Or maybe he searched for saves online to cut through the bullshit…

    I wondered who the actor for Quinlan was. When I saw the footage from the 10th kingdom, it all made sense…

    Overall, I didn't really dig this let's play as much as the Phantasmagoria one.
    Maybe it's because the Phantasmagoria one was recorded at the same time he was playing it.

    Oh well, still a good one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/manuel.baudisch Manuel Baudisch

    I think it's because Phantasmagoria was overall a tad more cheesy and worse acting and plot wise. Especially since it took itselfs way too serious for it's own good. Ripper, while not being a masterpiece at any bit of sense, was much more enjoyable. The acting, while mostly feeling out-of-place because of the two-dimensional cameraperspectives and horrid backgrounds, was – at least – decend, and the whole experience felt overall enough aware of itself to get a good laugh out of it, even without Noah's commentary.

    I guess one problem about this “let's play” is the fact that the imagery spoke enough for itself that Noah didn't even had to make that many jokes up. The Walken's overacting alone was glorious. In a nutshell: You watch the Phantasmagoria 2 “Let's play” for Noah's comedic talent, but you watch “Ripper” for the overall game experience. At least, that's how I see it.

    That being said, I enjoyed the “Phantasmagoria 2″ playthrough more, as well.

  • assiman

    Wow, those endings sucked ass. What a RIP off of a game :<

  • squigian

    Actually, what Spoony did was play through Act 3 multiple times to get the different endings. You only get to talk with John Rhys-Davies if either Burton or Catherine was the killer; the altered photos only appear if Magnotta or Eddie did it. Going chronologically, the first real clue we get is the Ripper contacting Quinlin as he breaks into Magnotta's apartment; in that case, Magnotta is the Ripper, the other Rippers contacting you at a different location. So conflating the Burton and Magnotta sequences makes it look as though the Ripper is who you choose it to be whereas it really depends on what clues you receive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Heather-Solomon/100000457091583 Heather Solomon

    So basically… it doesn't matter who you shoot, they're all the Ripper. Brilliant. Somehow I like Phantasmagoria 2 better but eh. Nice runthrough.

  • Mythie

    Ripper is actually really good and impressive for its time. The story is interesting (even if at times a BIT far fetched) and the amount of talent within it is high.

    But like many games of its kind in that era: it has the horribly long transition periods, overly complicated puzzles, somewhat campy acting (not as bad as games like Phantasmagoria 1, but that game was so over the top if became awesome – goes to show professional actors go a long way.), weird interface bugs, Many CD's,etc..etc.

    None of that makes it a bad game(every game then tended to have the crazy puzzles), just not the best game. A lot of the limitations we had 15 years ago are gone, and a remade Ripper probably would be a lot of fun.

  • resulka

    But why would it spike ONLY at those times? If Catherine was killing it would pop up before then to prepare.

    Think of it like your computer is Off and then suddenly it's on and has opened up a webpage. No load up times. No impetus for it happening. It just DID IT. And if it was Catherine, she would have to have some brain activity to notice when things were happening, like that the mortician was giving tips and all for her to even decide to kill him. Unless she guessed it would all happen before hand and decided to kill him anyway, but how would she know how to pick that time?

    And her plan for putting herself into a coma had alot of drawbacks, It relied on the fact that he had to rebuild alot of her memory… Speaking of which, if she never had her memory rebuilt, well, would she even remember she WAS the ripper?

  • http://bluehighwind.blogspot.com/ BlueHighwind

    Spoony One, thanks for that clip there at the end. I've since made sure to put the entirety of the 10th Kingdom on my Netflix queue. Anything where a crazy person tries to shove an old lady into the oven needs to be watched.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wizardofxenia Andrew Michael Brown

    You know, for some reason I always thought Richard Bright's character would have something major to do with the whole thing in the end, especially seeing as he mysteriously just left near the beginning and wasn't talked about again…

  • taranaich

    This was horrendous.

    You have Christopher Walken, Karen Allen, John Rhys-Davis and other quality actors in your game. The puzzles are merciless, disc-swapping is constant, and just moving in the world is an ordeal. You'd think a game that came on SIX DISCS would have a pretty long, satisfying ending, where you got some closure with the other characters. What happened with Haman? How would Quinlan get back at Magnatta? What would happen with Dodds now that the truth was out? What about Dr Burton and her unholy army of psycho monkeys? I'd expect something like five or ten minutes.

    Instead, we get a one-minute clip of Quinlan typing at his desk (a grim foreshadowing of the future, where Quinlan is one of the first thousand typewriter operators to be killed in the Great Monkey Uprising Operation: Shakespeare?) WITH AN INTERCHANGABLE VOICEOVER.

    No, game! Not good enough! For a game that required you to take notes, spending precious paper and pencil graphite, to solve the puzzles, the gamer deserves more than that!

    Man. If I played that game as a teen, I would've been mightily ticked off.

    Still, Spoony's review saves it for the predictable (but no less appreciated) Clue reference, and I can't believe other people have seen The 10th Kingdom! I loved that show, but somehow I missed the final episode, and I never got around to watching it. Now I'm a bit weird about it for some reason.

  • thatrussianguy

    A weird end to an excellent Riff Track/Review.
    We need a 'This guy, is un-fucking-believable' T-Shirt made outta this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wizardofxenia Andrew Michael Brown

    There are so many fucking t-shirts that can come be of the froobywoosday

  • Y2j1915

    i'd love 2c a tgwtg version of this game somone going around killing reviewers and spoony having to find out who it is my votes on bennet the sage that guy would rip people because it went insane from reading my immortal lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/MaSQuEdePuSTA Meurant Arthur

    Wow, that was a really weird game. Thanks for sharing such an odd slice of gaming history, it's really something.

  • sniktbub

    Wow, what a horribly anti-climactic final “battle” and ending. I'm totally going to look up the 10th Kingdom now though xD

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429413036 facebook-1429413036

    Clap! Clap! Clap! You have finally finished and I am pleased. Loved the long funny as hell ride into the Walkeny goodness Spoony. You are still the man!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1429413036 facebook-1429413036

    I agree! The shirt would have to have the very best Walken picture on it. Cause he is unfuckinbeleiveable.

  • captain_smackpigeon

    Funny stuff as always man.

    “DIE YOU MONKEY BITCH!!” XD The best freakin' part about the ending!

  • BlackWolfe

    Now I'm curious – do you get any real hints as to who the Ripper is in a given play-through, or is it pure luck?

    Also, on an unrelated note, though I'm sure everyone has seen it before, I was perusing music videos looking for weirdness, and found a link to Fatboy Slim's “Weapon of Choice” ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHXs5UUX9M ) Just watch that while thinking about this.

  • WilHiteWarrior

    Okay so basically they didnt want to go to the trouble of deciding which one the ripper was so they just made it random… Either that or it doesnt even matter which one you blast, whichever one it is, thats the ripper… lol… that is one of the most anticlimatic endings ever

  • SkullCrusher

    I still say it was the rage monkeys. I mean it shows you all of the suspects but the person who does the ripping if you dont attack is dressed differently.

  • sifer2

    hmm That's a pretty good breakdown scissors69 it makes sense now.

    All I have to say is Quinlan going batshit crazy in that 10th Kingdom clip was the perfect way to end it lol. Like with FF8 or Phatasmagoria I am kind of sad to see it end. But at least this frees Spoony up to begin reviewing some other obscure an oddly entertaining old game.

  • http://www.mangapunksai.com Sai

    The Tenth Kingdom clip made me lawl. That was such a good series. Made up for the shitty endings at least XD

  • anonns

    I remember way, waaaaaay back, that I was even enticed to buy this game, just based on the cast alone. I seen it for $80 I remember. Then as I was going to buy it the cashier told me “Don't waste your money, the ending is shit.” FACT FOR FACT those are the exact words. So I took the advice and bought some others instead. I got that stack of games laying around here somewhere. But I'll never forget the day that I received that advice. That advice got me plenty of other GREAT GAMES and I think I saved like a few bucks because I bought a pop and chips I remember for the bike ride home. Ahhh the good ol' days when you feel great about making a wise decision. Today you just don't get that anymore with the internet. It's a shame. Those games are classics too the ones I picked up back then. I gotta find em and post the titles.

  • Anonymous

    AAhhhh shit, ok that was kind of disappointing. Then again this was the predecessor to later games like knights of the old republic with their light side/dark side system, I guess this was just one of those stumbles needed to perfect the art!

  • Anonymous

    AAhhhh shit, ok that was kind of disappointing. Then again this was the predecessor to later games like knights of the old republic with their light side/dark side system, I guess this was just one of those stumbles needed to perfect the art!

  • Anonymous

    AAhhhh shit, ok that was kind of disappointing. Then again this was the predecessor to later games like knights of the old republic with their light side/dark side system, I guess this was just one of those stumbles needed to perfect the art!

  • Anonymous

    AAhhhh shit, ok that was kind of disappointing. Then again this was the predecessor to later games like knights of the old republic with their light side/dark side system, I guess this was just one of those stumbles needed to perfect the art!

  • http://www.facebook.com/wizardofxenia Andrew Michael Brown

    Wow. Even if the cashier did advise you against it, you still turned down a game starring Christopher Walken, David Patrick Kelly, John-Rhys Davies and Jimmy Walker. I'd have bought it no matter what anyone told me.

  • scissors69viewer

    You can play the clips from discs. He found the clips of different endings.

  • Duffman180

    If the games ending didn't suck ass Katherine as the Ripper would have been a good twist. All they had to do was explain to you who killed Katherine's mother in the final game of Ripper and how Katherine knew how to put herself into a coma because what they told about why she did it didn't make any sense. Her mother's death made her become the new Ripper, that's all fine and good except that doesn't tell us who killed her mother. The game wants you to believe that whoever killed Katherine's mother in that final game was also the new Ripper but it obviously can't be a Katherine, a small mistake that killed that ending to the game. Of course I doubt the creators even cared since they obviously spent no time on that ending and went for the easiest way they could think of to end the game.

    Oh and we defiantly need a Spoony commentary on the finale of Ripper.

    • Lermont

      What? No! It would have been perfect — she didn’t know which of these jerks killed her mother, or alternatively she just blames them all so she slaughters all the original members of the clique. Makes sense. Well, as much sense as anyone else of the four being the culprit.

      • Anonymous

        I think you both missed a big plot hole.

        I haven’t played the game myself in a long time, but as I remember Orville Redenbacher is attacked in every incarnation of the game (Regardless of whom the ripper is in that version.) but if the Ripper is Katherine, how the hell did she get out of her coma? I understand she attacked everyone else by breaking into the net through the hospitals firewall but she couldn’t go and attack Mickey Goodwill using computers. Now am I missing something? In the “Katherine did it” version; is Burgess Meredith not attacked or is there something else to explain that?

        • Anonymous

          I just did a quick search and learned that in Katherine is the killer it turns out Gimli attacked Grandpa Gustafson.

          So turns out I’m an idiot.

  • Cheif_Blank

    apocalypse…huh, hmm well yaknow I just found out about that cause why the hell would I be drawing from the point of the game write…sorry right? anyway…standing by…

  • http://www.vaughnonmovies.com/ Vaughn On Movies

    This was a “Let's Play” with commentary. A “review” implies an indication of approval/disapproval and some degree of scoring.

  • Bosh_Depanzer

    To be honest, I was thinking all three of the Webrunners did it. And it seemed like they were all accusing each other but that was only because they knew Quinlin was getting too close and someone had to take the fall like twenty years ago.

    In a way, I was right. But in another I was dead wrong. My failing was giving this game too much credit.

    • Anonymous

      That’s actually a really cool idea, but it only makes sense if they had known all along about Quinlan placing bugs in the offices (since if they didn’t, they would have been talking honestly about the murders amongst themselves). The idea that they’re putting on a show for him is pretty awesome, but it ceases to be plausible because of the bugs. Still would have been better than a randomized killer, though.

  • bojac

    Oh man Spoony congrats on the Clue reference. I about cried laughing at that. One of my all-time favorite bad movies.

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  • taranaich

    Ah, of course, my apologies. I was using review in the more general sense of evaluation, but I see what you mean.

  • poipoi

    wow… the real endings, aside the you lose and died kinda suck. Putting in that 10th Kingdom clip did add some laughs.

  • torashichishio

    Holy crap, now I know why Quinlan looked familiar… Scott Cohen plays a character in my favorite Law and Order series! No wonder…

  • llimar263

    so after all that the ripper ends up being whoever you want him to be? (sigh) i feel like calling up Phantasmagoria 2 and apologizing

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wiegeabo-Kilijabob/100000074745693 Wiegeabo Kilijabob

    From what I've read, I don't think the Ripper ends up being whoever you want. The clues, and therefore the real killer, varies with each play-through.

    But since the ending is essentially the same each time, what's the point of going through multiple play-throughs?

  • suicidalparrot

    I had no idea that software deletion involved explosions or that professional journalists employ the hunt and peck technique when typing.

  • Cthulhu07

    One of the best music videos…. ever :D

  • brus

    Disappointing… Guess the developers really wanted ze player to have an impact on the story by doing this. However, it was pretty disappointing… and stupid.

    Great walkthrough, though, Mr Antwiler!

  • lamgf

    since you made me buy this game here is a tip:
    http://store.steampowered.com/sub/964/

    quoting ufopedia:
    “This weekend only, you can grab the X-COM Complete Pack at Steam for the unheard of low price of $2!”
    i am a fan of this series and in the case that you dind had tha chance to play this before GET IT NOW!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derrick-Avery-Hautamaki/690559163 Derrick Avery Hautamaki

    Imagine if you were reading a murder mystery and the last page wrote, “Pick the killer, whoever you want it to be, we don't care.”

    Even with the disappointing end it has been a great journey Spoony. You do good shit. YDGS should be a new acronym if it isn't one already.

  • Roll Fizzlebeef

    I'd like to see the rest of little quips that come right after you tag the Ripper with the weapon (see: Falconetti at 4:32 into the video), if there are any more. I'm just curious to see if Walken overacts or phones in his last line before walking off stage.

  • david86

    so the ripper is… whoever you want it to be.

    what a stupid ending XD

  • misterkeitel

    Yes. I am disappointed that the Ripper was never really revealed. But now matter. I no look forward to Captain American. As well as the Spoony production of Captain America vs. Dr. Insano.

  • http://www.youtube.com/roadjam RoadJam

    Ahh, that ending was total bollocks. My guess was catherine BTW!

    Oh well the journey was more important than the destination it seems. I'm content with that. Best moment had to be the Walken reading impressions. I almost fell of my chair laughing at that.

  • ScubaShark

    This might have been a pretty lame way to end their game (in some ways I kind of like how the ending is sort of the same, but I'd like a bit more poetic elements if they were going to can that old pattern), but if nothing else it did sort of inspire sort of my own ideas on what they could have done as a way to end it. In my own considerings, they really did have a selling point as to how any of them could have been the demented killer the whole time. For their own reasons they came to hate each other, not quite equally, but there wasn't any parterning up between them, they were all against each other. Eddie would probably be the hardest to pin as the killer though, since if he is the murderer of the first woman (assuming the real Ripper did start it all off with that crime), meaning he meant to kill his future wife, that means he wanted her dead for some reason (but then he marries her; seems his hate for her came after she left him). The cop could have done it as a means to get revenge on her for not being with him, frame Eddit, and use his guilt when it was his crime to ride to fame, power, and that sort of thing. Obviously he would have to frame Eddie with fake evidence and other tactics (since he's the guy doing it all), but he has the ability and man-power to do it (and those two definitely give power behind their acting to be nuts enough for it, I'm leaning towards the cop here myself though). Either way though, the surgeon's records would have had to been stolen, giving her plenty of resources herself (motivation would be tricky though; if she wanted Eddie screwed, he could get framed, but the cop would get power and fame from it and their relationship for her is hatred so she wouldn't want him getting revenge or gain from her crimes, and for me her relationship towards Eddie is more distrust and fear I'd guess). This is sort of assuming an insane person would be rational in their thoughts, but such obsession over so many years (I don't quite get the waiting period myself though, other than to make the mystery more skewered through time, since it didn't separate out suspects to their advantage like waiting that damn long would be planned for), and then committing the crimes without direct evidence busting any of them leads me to think they wouldn't screw up their goals but get the criminal activities and escaping capture down correctly (more or less). What really happens here is trying too hard to make it a mystery that had obscure clues as to who did it without it being too obvious (anyone could at any point prove to be the murderer; which is good, but not at the sacrifice of overall coherence). Catherine to me is the least likely (especially since I don't remember that much from the beginning now). Since it is assumed to be connected to the first game so long ago, who killed her mom (that would be a separate crime unsolved, and without much motivation it seems; other than a mistake to kill the other bitch, but hey she's still alive. Maybe the person was a petty murderer, felt horrible for killing at all, but especially for killing the wrong person and committed suicide?). Anyways, other than making it all a big conspiracy as to how it was her the whole time for a shock ending (or the obvious idea that since the game cycled through 4 main choices, there was the real killer who just wasn't included as it tried to force your hand to pick one of the four and you had to ignore the compulsion to act on instict and pick one of the four obvious choices, Catherine being the big secret twist, revealing as you waited the real real secret twist killer), she only had the fake coma, steal the story (not getting how that would be tied in), and kill everyone else associated with the game for revenge on her mother's death motivation (which would only serve to make the paranoia, hatred, and warped relationship the trio had as filler for the real killer, who was there the whole time like in the first Saw movie; gay by the way).

    Yes, just rambling about how they all had motivations, you all know all of that stuff, just detailing it out for myself I suppose. Here's my idea on how they could have warped it into a cheap mind fuck (like Phantasmagoria 2). The gaming experience had been introduced to new elements by Eddie, who used or asked the other two for seemingly minor technical gizmos or programs (or hell, they were obsessed and were glad to help him by contributing all sorts of screwy programs or what not), and played around with some ideas to make it a whole new gaming experience. He screws it all up though because they're tampering with crap they don't understand together, let alone him mixing it all together himself, and what happens is it triggered the one female's death, and those three crafted a disturbing cyber-psychic connection between them somehow (they were plugged in using elements they concocted to test his ideas to make it better, and they fused or whatever). It created an insane triangle where they were both friends wanting to play this game they obsessed over, and who blamed the death on each other (and the relationship issues where the surgeon was between the two dudes). Over the years it just warped further and further, where they each went out and played different parts towards what would become the same goals of incarnating the Ripper in some sense. Surgeon chick did at least the foregrounds to the program, Eddie did testing garbage and played the main original suspect, and the cop threw a monkey wrench in to throw more people off and perfected the program (all 3 have experience with bodies and murder as well it seems, all different angles of it). Catherine isn't Ms. Innocent, but she isn't at all behind the murders (her guilt is in trying to steal the story and playing what's his face). So the reason all 3 seem to be possibly guilty is because they all are, and here's how you have to win with that one program at the end(oh, and the reason their genders cycled and could shift who killed who is because it's 3 people). Their relationship is so twisted and deranged to where they don't even know what's going on really, the only way to win is to kill Catherine. They hate each other (mixed in with obsessive love towards each other, since they are joined somehow) and want each other dead, but if you do kill one the other two snap against you and rip you to pieces, stabalizing their relationship where they get along well enough to become truly monsterous murderers (genocide scale here; so horrible ending). When you kill off Catherine as the murderer, when they all know on some level it's them (consciously or not, they could be all unaware of what they're doing) it throws their relationship into chaos and they kill each other and end it. Either way, Catherine will die, just in one case the criminals die and the world is better off and become wary of technology, or its abused by the criminals and they go rampant. Working out the technical details behind it would suck, but the concept would be more of a mind messing one, and the ending would have more punch and definitive right or wrong (though the right one still blows). If anyone reads this far, what'd any of you think of this redesign so to say?

  • geeayeare

    Waaaiitt so…there wasn't a specific Ripper? It was just whoever you wanted it to be? That sucks. :P But I guess after all those puzzles they didn't want to throw another one at you towards the end…oh well, it was still fun to watch. Great Job!

  • DeathsHead419

    Ya, what a wasted ending. Though contray to what many have said, it isn't pick a Ripper. The game randomises it each time and intersperses the game with different clues. Now if only we could force him to play FFX somehow. I get the feeling his hatred would create a monumentally awsome rant video.

    Also, has anyone else seen the odd grouping of Women in underware ad above idiotic PETA ad? This may sound strange but am I the only one being made to feel hungry by whatching that?

  • eaglefalcon

    the game is supposed to randomise the ripper each time as well as place slightly different clues each time. I do have to say that these endings would've made me rage. interesting game overall with a few bad quirks. great review spoony

  • Earthbound_X

    Wow, such an anticlimactic ending.

    It's just like the new Alone's in the Dark's endings, pretty epic game is scope, then it just ends.

  • david86

    if the ripper and clues are random each time then the real question is “just how many times did spoony end up playing threw this game?”

  • flow_hoe

    Only one time!

    The first CD of the game includes a movie player with which you can see any of the FMV movies without having to play the game itself.
    I also watched the alternative endings with this when I finished Ripper many years ago.

  • nightcobra

    being a bit off-topic here, but i found something i haven't seen in a while and i'm surprised spoony him being a wrestling “fan” hasn't mentioned, praised/bashed this series yet. it would make a funny thing to review, i warn you the following may scar you for life and if by chance you've seen it before i am sorry to re-open old wounds and rubbing them with salt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SetiBP3WCZ0

    you have been warned…

  • klibble

    Dear Spoony, does it depress you that so many of your fans are BLOODY IDIOTS? This is better than the confusion the ending to your Dirty Harry video caused.

    The Ripper is NOT whoever you want it to be. Seriously, people.

  • klibble

    Dear Spoony, does it depress you that so many of your fans are BLOODY IDIOTS? This is better than the confusion the ending to your Dirty Harry video caused.

    The Ripper is NOT whoever you want it to be. Seriously, people.

  • http://HoZKiNZ.co.cc/ HoZKiNZ

    cheers you commentors, else I wouldnt have had a clue about what was happening at the end.

  • THE_CONNERY

    Aww, this sucks. This game could have been cool, but the multiple endings kinda ruin it. Yeah, there's a specific Ripper each time, but the fact that it's not any particular person makes playing this game kinda useless. I really wanted to know who it was. My money was on Catherine.

  • THE_CONNERY

    Aww, this sucks. This game could have been cool, but the multiple endings kinda ruin it. Yeah, there's a specific Ripper each time, but the fact that it's not any particular person makes playing this game kinda useless. I really wanted to know who it was. My money was on Catherine.

  • THE_CONNERY

    Aww, this sucks. This game could have been cool, but the multiple endings kinda ruin it. Yeah, there's a specific Ripper each time, but the fact that it's not any particular person makes playing this game kinda useless. I really wanted to know who it was. My money was on Catherine.

  • Vandell

    GOD DAMNIT QUINN, STOP CHICKEN PECKING YOUR KEYBOARD! Annoys the hell out of me. >w<

  • megafat

    It was going to be pretty anticlimactic regardless of which killer you get. I also like the reference to the movie Clue, i love that movie. Can anyone tell me what movie that spoony showed clips from where Scott Cohen played that crazy psychopath? That was so hilarious that now i need to get myself a copy of that movie just to see the whole thing.

  • bastafari

    Hey Spooney, did you know that at the dos prompt if you type riper.exe instead of ripper.exe you'll get a little cinematic about a gross apple? Now you know.

  • phoenixcrochet

    The Scott Cohen clip is from “The Tenth Kingdom” which aired on cable as a mini-series. That's also the source of the “Mr. Wolf” joke spoony made. I think it aired in 2001, it all takes place in fairy-tale land and Cohen plays a wolf. Sort of a cross between the big bad wolf and Pepe LePeu.

  • megafat

    Thankyou,

  • spacerpg

    Oh, SHIT yeah!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Vossen/100000145404231 Nick Vossen

    This game is worth jack shit. but the presence of Christopher Walken and the Blue öyster Cult puts it up to a solid 7/10!

    sure as hell enjoyed your playthrough! moar please :D how about The 11th Hour?

  • NixieGirl

    You put clips from the 10th kingdom in there. Spoony you are my hero! I haven't seen that movie in ages!

    A wonderful review as always. Hahaha Witty till the very end. I didn't put the main character as Wolf though till I saw him pepperin' up the old lady. FFFFF shows was a damn ass I am.

    Too bad you don't have any cheats like the ones in this game for Bloodwings, eh?

  • ninjaboyz101

    i don't think i completely under stand. the murderer could have been any one of them? a game with so many intriguing and stimulating puzzles and the most important decision of the game and you can't make the wrong answer?

  • ninjaboyz101

    i don't think i completely understand. the murderer could have been any one of them? the most important decision of the game and you can't make the wrong choice?

  • The_Hyphenator

    I…love…that…SONG!

    Hysterical as always, Spoony. With regard to the game itself, for the time and the genre, actually not too bad. A damn sight better than Phantasmagoria 2 at any rate, and the awesome cast and theme song definitely lend cool points. The story was kind of silly, but not too shabby. I think I may steal them for a cyberpunk-themed GURPS campaign I'm working on. The non-specific multiple killer ending was a real cop-out though. If they had actually provided a Scooby-Doo-esque recap outlining why each one could have been the killer, it would have been a lot more fun. Oh, well. Can't win them all.

    I love these playthrough riffs. Keep making 'em, Spoony, and I'll keep watching.

  • BassForever

    Depending on who the “correct” Ripper is on your play though, Act 3 will change and different characters will or will not show up. John Rhys Davies only appears if Catherine or Burton is the ripper for example. Most people have come to the general consensus that the “canon” ending is the one where Catherine is the Ripper considering it gets the longest monologue and makes the most sense for a twist ending.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Caitlyn-Conboy/1840594917 Caitlyn Conboy

    Fantastic Mini-Series. I'd recommend it to anyone who missed it (saw the original airing when I was about 12, liked it then, and it holds up about a decade later)

    Scott Cohen completely steals the show.

    Great review, although I do feel rather gypped by the ending.

  • theherald1

    Quinlan was infected with the crazy talking monkey virus! That's why he's so feral at the end!

    Man the tie in to the 10th Kingdom was awesome. As was Clue. As a reviewer I know you don't much like being asked to do a movie, but you've gotta do Clue just cuz of that. Or the 10th Kingdom, but that wasn't bad so there's not much point. You also always mention Krull, maybe you should review that one too.

  • bryanpe

    Did anyone else have fond memories stirred of ReBoot based on the “futuristic” graphics they used for parts of cyberspace?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Gebara/100000494868128 Matthew Gebara

    I think it was Falcon Eddi for this playthrough.

  • http://twitter.com/LikChan Lik Chan

    WTF, no definitive suspect is the Ripper? I hate that. thanks for the video, it was entertaining. and once again, that girl from the intro of the game is damn hawt.

    and WTH with those random clips of that actor? lol

  • Tor Sognelien

    Think I saw almost all the “FMV – Hell” -reviews, riffs and rants from this site before the horrible truth of my stupid marvelicity dawned on me. FMV is short for Full Motion Video… Before the taunting and name-calling begins; I did recognize when the frenzy in releases from this concept started that it would fail in 99% of the titles and never bought a single title! So if you own any copies, even for nostalgic purposes, I revoke your right to belittle my stunningly late realization.

    Although, feel free to trash me being 19(!, actual fact) before I realized that birds wont actively aim to shit on your tongue if you stick it out too much. Stupid grown-up scare tactic! I could have stretched my tongue to match Gene Simmons from a much younger age if I realized that sooner!

    • Anonymous

      The fuck?

      Why would you post this? You may as well said “I’m retarded, but please don’t bully me about it :(“

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  • http://openid-provider.appspot.com/jmckesson Nicol Bolas

    The real fundamental flaw with this game is this. It's not a good mystery.

    It does start off very well, as far as mysteries go. But it looses the plot with the 3 main suspects + Catherine. The problem boils down to one simple thing: motive.

    Of the 4 potential Rippers, only *one* has an honest-to-God motive: Catherine. Revenge for her mother's death. The other 3 have motives, but those motives are only for killing *each other*. Killing the rest of the WebRunners just doesn't make sense, motive-wise.

    That's why the ending voiceover for the other 3 don't go into motive, simply saying they're insane: because it flat-out doesn't make sense for them to be doing it. Only Catherine has a legitimate motive, and only in Catherine's ending voiceover is that motive discussed.

    I get the distinct impression that the developers originally intended the main 3 to be false and Catherine to be the real Ripper all along. But then someone decided that they could shoot a little extra footage and change a couple of things to make any of them were the Ripper. So they decided to do this random Ripper thing, which ultimately doesn't make sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=628481885 David Solheim

    Alas, as previously mentioned, her brain activity spiked on the day of the killings. That would somehow mean she could have killed them. But what about the letters and stuff? The audio message thingies? And well, to at all prepare for all that some brain activity must have occured. I can understand later on though, when some is restored, but it still bothers me. Another thing with the Katherine ripper thing is… well, she's Quinlan's assistant… how in the world did she get the high-tech stuff to execute the murders? They stated that the killer would have to be seriously rich to obtain such tools… I might have missed something, but it kind of bugs me

  • Bloodstained6

    They did talk about having timers when referring to the way the Ripper killed, and if the Ripper was such a genius like everyone said it might boil down to knowing how people would act and react and plan accordingly-making it so they could prerecord some audio, have it triggered at a certain point, and make it seem even less plausible it was Catherine. She did know a lot, and even looking at her apartment is saying something for her funds. As Spoony said, she went through a lot of trouble just for a few simple puzzles. Now, of course, those could just be taken as simple puzzles that don't really connect to the story and go along with the puzzle aspect of the game, which they mostly do.

    However, I am biased. I thought it was Catherine, and went along with it because she seems the most likely suspect, and because they even go far as to not include her as a suspect and play down her role so much it would make sense if she turned out to be the killer. That is a main reason I'm disappointed they'd cheapen the ending by having whoever it was you chose be the “killer” be the killer, not even going on to have more murders to show you were wrong or anything. It totally defeats the purpose of even putting a mystery there, in my own opinion.

  • Anonymous

    They did talk about having timers when referring to the way the Ripper killed, and if the Ripper was such a genius like everyone said it might boil down to knowing how people would act and react and plan accordingly-making it so they could prerecord some audio, have it triggered at a certain point, and make it seem even less plausible it was Catherine. She did know a lot, and even looking at her apartment is saying something for her funds. As Spoony said, she went through a lot of trouble just for a few simple puzzles. Now, of course, those could just be taken as simple puzzles that don’t really connect to the story and go along with the puzzle aspect of the game, which they mostly do.

    However, I am biased. I thought it was Catherine, and went along with it because she seems the most likely suspect, and because they even go far as to not include her as a suspect and play down her role so much it would make sense if she turned out to be the killer. That is a main reason I’m disappointed they’d cheapen the ending by having whoever it was you chose be the “killer” be the killer, not even going on to have more murders to show you were wrong or anything. It totally defeats the purpose of even putting a mystery there, in my own opinion.

  • http://twitter.com/starwolf333 Cody Ward

    I’m going to have to agree with you on this one. Besides, it’s always alluded to that the first death – Cathrine’s mother – was done by the same guy that did the rest of the killings. That then brings up the question of why would Cathrine kill her own mother and then seek revenge for it? Personally, I always thought of Magnotta as being the one with motive. The fact that he obviously had control issues and psychological disturbances, coupled with the way Claire and Eddie shot him down could easily of sent him over the edge. The other WebRunners were good targets to perfect his method, and they would’ve had insight into his own personal psychosis and obsessions.

    Still, even in Spoony’s playthrough, I don’t get what evidence was the damning nail in Burton’s coffin. Going into Whitechapel, it seemed everyone was as likely.

    • http://rainverse.blogspot.com/ Zeithri

      Actually her killing her own mother would make sense. There have been several stories like the song of Hildebrandt which more or less influenced the Soul Blade character Siegfreid.

      She could had done it by accident or she could had done it purposefully and then either gone insane inside her head or grown addicted to killing. There are many ways the mind could had turned.

      • Gregory Bogosian

        There is a problem with that. The original killer was never trying to kill Josey Dorset. The original killer meant to kill Clair Burton, then Clair Burton and Josey Dorset switched characters so that the original killer accidentally killed Josey Dorset. Why would Catherine want to kill Clair Burton before her mother died? How would Catherine even know Clair Burton back then? So Catherine still lacks any intelligible motive to have been the original killer at the Jack The Ripper game and start all of this stuff.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/V3WXBDCWYRE5DOPYR3NB7GFGWM CherZ

    What a horrible gip of an ending.

    You know who it should have been? The horny night nurse who was coming on to our hero while his girlfriend lay in a coma.

    Horny night nurse = ripper. That would have been pure awesomeness.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shane-Stephenson/1381510872 Shane Stephenson

    I loved the Tenth Kingdom. I really need to watch it again…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pat-Closson/100000304267651 Pat Closson

    Worst… Ending… Ever!!! I’m glad I never played this game as I would have seriously been ticked off at the fact that there is no correct or incorrect choice. Killer should have been Jhon Rys Davies. He just has a sinister look to him. :)

    • Anonymous

      After all this time, I would hope that people would have figured out that he was showing all the possible endings that can be achieved, not that all the endings can be had by chance. Each playthrough would give you a few different clues to lead to a different killer.

  • Anonymous

    Dude that game was fucking insane! It seemed so damn complicated at times,I woulda went insane playing that game! Great review as always Spoony! You da man!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621026356 Paul Zaffran

    Ok so, I understand that the culprit is randomized… What I don’t understand is, what are the clues that actually point to Karen Allen in Spoony’s playthrough ?… And do they actually make sense ?

    • Anonymous

      It looked more like it only depends on who you kill with your shurrikan thingy in that one scene where all people appear and dissappear one after another :-/

      • Anonymous

         No, there’s only one answer each time. If you choose the wrong one, you get the bad ending where Quinlan dies.

    • Anonymous

      It looked more like it only depends on who you kill with your shurrikan thingy in that one scene where all people appear and dissappear one after another :-/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621026356 Paul Zaffran

    Ok so, I understand that the culprit is randomized… What I don’t understand is, what are the clues that actually point to Karen Allen in Spoony’s playthrough ?… And do they actually make sense ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Eis/1464941192 Matthew Eis

    This has got to be the Opus of Spoony right here. The jokes are in top form, a perfect combination of riffing, let’s plays, combined with a fairly interesting story. Just a word to the wise, don’t go watching this after your let’s play is in final editing makes you want to scrap the entire thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-Eis/1464941192 Matthew Eis

    This has got to be the Opus of Spoony right here. The jokes are in top form, a perfect combination of riffing, let’s plays, combined with a fairly interesting story. Just a word to the wise, don’t go watching this after your let’s play is in final editing makes you want to scrap the entire thing.

  • Anonymous

    This was a great series Spoony. There was some very funny stuff in this, and the game was interesting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1698349462 Katy Kimsey

    Oh MAN The Tenth Kingdom! BEST END EVER.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1698349462 Katy Kimsey

    Oh MAN The Tenth Kingdom! BEST END EVER.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1364850328 Ed Roebuck- Jones

    spooneyone, you are the funniest and most awesomest person i have ever seen and you deserve your own tv show. but i doubt they’l give it to you, cause then no other TV shows would ever be watched.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWA45U3B5XFAMCT3KGKWSKB4PA Asfdg

    Anyone knows the music that plays during the multiple ending bit?

    • http://twitter.com/arcanaforce13 richrd royston

      its from the movie clue starring tim curry and christopher lloyd

  • http://www.facebook.com/darameja Agne Serpytyte

    I came to see this review after I saw nostalgia critic’s top 11 most awkward Christopher Walken moments. I got really curious about this game, specially that is is the pre-internet creation, one of game development trends that is not that popular now (are there any games now with these kind of video?). It is also speculation about the future, the information society, how information creates a special “space” where people can connect and be out of their body. It is really interesting how dark it all is (a trend of dark future cyber society, imprinted deeply since Blade Runner movie – not my though, it is from Lev Manovich book “The language of new media”). I am very interested in game history, cyberpunk and whole media and information society formation. Out of theoretical point this game is fascinating.
    Though the ending kind of disappointed me – what the point of actually trying to solve the mystery if any answer is valid. Of course we could go into theoretical realm about alternative reality or self fulfilling prophecy. But I wanted some more solid answer. I guessed that this Ripper is a AI in cyberspace, that was created during the time people played The Ripper game, their thoughts, schemes, ideas of being a perfect ripper created this one killer mind that started killing and stayed in cyberspace for all that time. Well it staying silent for 15 years would need extra explanation in plot, but that would be cool cyberpunk and AI/technology fearing themes.

    Thanks, Spoony <3

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Martin/1596700226 Stephen Martin

      I think the same thing Agne but I vary slightly. I picture the Ripper AI that developed leaving a fragment of itself in each of their minds as a result of the unexpected shutdown of the game. Thus it sits there, incomplete and searching but not sure why until it stumbles upon Eddie and his game and feels more complete. With how much Eddie is online it is inevitable that another player would log on at the same time giving it more completeness and it realizes it needs to take back what has been stolen from it. So it experiments as they are online and begins to kill them one by one becoming stronger each time. Once it gains enough strength and realizes that someone is a threat to it it begins going after people who have information on it but WEREN’T players all to buy time until it could truly be free. Finally the epic showdown begins and ends with a shell game as you try to figure out which one is the killer before you are finished. There is the trick. Each answer was valid because they each had a fragment of the AI in their head but none of them were guilty as none of them were the murderers. The fail ending where someone removes the visor is where the Ripper escapes cyberspace into one of the players to continue his murder spree. In this shell game it doesn’t matter which shell you choose because it was to distract you from the guy picking your pocket the whole time. Seriously though, shoot the lady. Those Rage monkeys need to be stopped more than a psycho hacker who will kill himself in a less than epic knife vs gunfight with the cops or a corrupt detective who reads Dr. Seuss.

      • Anonymous

        No, there’s only one randomly generated killer each time the game is run, unfortunately. The storyline diverges in Act 3 into a different direction depending on who it is. As awesome as your concept would be, there is only one valid answer for the Ripper. It seems they just got lazy with the ending, or ran out of time or funds. :(

  • http://twitter.com/Yuoaman Nick Burns

    I still think Spoony’s theory about the talking Rage Monkeys was far more interesting than anything the writers could come up with. Seriously, the clues were all there waiting to be uncovered.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zfriedcod john henry

    the anticlimax is itself a puzzle… there is a 1 killer, but you need
    to find it for yourself, because even quinlin doesnt get it … YOU have
    to get it. … see because in the restraints of HIS game world/life, he
    only sees part of the story, but through us playing through it, we see
    the Whole picture.
    i guess iam just not satisfied… piece of shhiii

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63BN6565GLLVECHGAC2QCIBNYU Vincent

    So what exactly is used to figure out which of those suspects is the ripper, if it’s different per game?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000360871797 Greg Dean

    Yeah, you’re right Spoony.

    This show, this FUCKIN’ show – let me tell you about this fuckin’s show.

    ‘The Tenth Kingdom’, is un fuckin’ believable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kody-Lee-DiMauro/100000819281046 Kody Lee DiMauro

    W-wait…so the Ripper…was EVERYONE? What the? What a cop out. You can’t fail! Unless you TRY to fail, which is the best ending, and even then, THEY STILL LEAVE IT BLANK! Lazy Sods…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kody-Lee-DiMauro/100000819281046 Kody Lee DiMauro

    W-wait…so the Ripper…was EVERYONE? What the? What a cop out. You can’t fail! Unless you TRY to fail, which is the best ending, and even then, THEY STILL LEAVE IT BLANK! Lazy Sods…

    • http://twitter.com/JordS68 Jordan Stone

      yeah what an awful game, i agree the failed ending is the best.

    • Anonymous

       The ripper is randomly determined from one of the four possible subjects when you start the game. It COULD BE everyone.

      Yes, it’s a lazy, hackneyed attempt to get the player to play the game more than once.

  • Anonymous

    Yay Tenth Kingdom!! seriously who makes a game that you basically can’t lose 

  • Anonymous

    that is without a doubt the worst ending to a game I’ve seen. I would have actually liked to hear spoony rant about it though

  • Anonymous

    Well, that was a piece of shit ending. It’s a shame, because despite how Spoony set out to make this look bad, I actually found the story intriguing. It had a lot of good elements and ideas. It did a good job of keeping me interested in it all the way until the end, but that ending was just so disappointing. They could have also made a number of cool twists, like having it so that Quintan already had the Ripper’s kill code inside of him since the beginning without realizing it. It seems like they were also going to have some interesting explanation for the characters’ damaged shoulders, but they let that go to waste as well. The art style itself is extemely dated and cheezy, but I really liked just how creepy and atmospheric the 1996 envisioning of how the internet could be. If there’s one thing I would really like to see, its a remake of this game. Not a sequel, but an actual remake that ties up all the loose ends. Sadly, though, they probably wouldnt be able to bring back Christopher Walken.    

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5LEJN7M36OL3JNYLENCOATRB4U Ion Zone

      *SPOILERS*

      Just to clarify for everyone because Spoony didn’t make it clear: there is only one killer, but this changes during each playthrough. The game decides in advance who it is by picking one at random. Thus the clues change slightly in each play-through because, while the Ripper can actually be any one of these people, it is only ONE of them in each play-through. This means that you CAN hit the wrong person and loose the game (hence the bad ending!!). Spoony just confused the issue by showing all the endings without telling you how or why you get them (I presume he thought it was obvious).

      In essence, the killer changes every time you play and you do have to pay attention and pick the right one at the end – so it is actually a pretty smart game, for all its flaws.

      • Anonymous

        Well that certainly changes things quite a bit and that is a pretty smart idea for a game. But still, even if Magnotta was meant to be the Killer in Spoony’s playthough, the game still had a lot of unanswered questions. For example, if Dr. Burton was the one the killer originally targeted when the web runners were playing their games, why didn’t he try to kill her a second time after getting Catherine’s mother by mistake? Instead the killer went after all the other web runners years later. And what was Dr. Burton actually doing with the money she acquired from that Mobster? Why did the killer want a model of white chapel built? Why was Catherine really spared? I think the game left way too many questions, and also didn’t really explain why Jack the Ripper was significant to the whole story other than the fact that the killer wanted to copy him. And even considering the fact that the game does vary each playthough, the ending with Quintan typing at his computer was still very anticlimatic and boring.

        • Treason

          Just watching old Spoony videos and I decided to look through the comments on a whim. Think I’ll join in on the speculation of the plot.

          “For example, if Dr. Burton was the one the killer originally targeted
          when the web runners were playing their games, why didn’t he try to kill her a second time after getting Catherine’s mother by mistake?”

          I’m going to guess lack of opportunity or motivation. The whole point to killing people over the net was that (theoretically) it couldn’t be traced back to the killer. Since the first Ripper death, the three had gone their separate ways and forgone all contact with each other (presumably over the net too) outside of professional need, acting mostly through intermediaries. There’s also the possibility that before Burton created that kill code, the only way they could kill each other over the net was through some sort of exploit in the code of the Ripper game they used to play. The game alludes to this In an earlier segment where Gambit Nelson mentions that the Ripper game was pulled from their publisher’s archive and never re-released, suspecting that it must’ve been connected to something bad. Perhaps there was an exploit in the game’s code that could result in a player’s death when they were killed in-game, prompting the publisher to pull the game in a desperate attempt to bury their responsibility. As for motivation, if the killer was Falconetti then he couldn’t well try to kill Burton immediately after being arrested for murdering Catherine’s mother because he’d be the first suspect, dropped charges or not. If the killer was Magnotta, then he had already succeeded in destroying Falconetti’s marriage to Burton, so there was no immediate need to continue since Falconetti was (presumably) going to go the jail for the murder anyway.

          “Instead the killer went after all the other web runners years later.”

          Burton’s kill code made it possible to kill those people over the net without fear of being caught. If it was Falconetti, Burton, or Magnotta, then it was just a matter of timing (the invention of the code) and tying up loose ends (the surviving members that were the only witnesses to the murder). If it was Catherine, then this would be presumably after she managed to track down the identities and locations of the other members of the Webrunners that she blamed for her mother’s death and gotten hold of the kill code from Burton.

          “And what was Dr. Burton actually doing with the money she acquired from that Mobster?”

          Buying equipment and paying for her research if she was on the level, or paying for the hardware Soap mentioned the killer would need to implement the kill code if she was indeed the killer. Falconetti was a criminal, so getting large sums of money on the fly wouldn’t be a problem for him. Magnotta presumably had plenty of money from collecting bounties as a detective over the years as well.

          “Why was Catherine really spared?”

          Either she managed to defend herself due to the combination of the kill code not being complete (mentioned by Soap) and her abnormally strong psychic defenses (mentioned by Burton), or she was the killer and had staged her “attack” to draw suspicion off of her and cover her trail.

          “Why did the killer want a model of white chapel built?” “…why Jack the Ripper was significant to the whole story other than the fact that the killer wanted to copy him.”

          The point was that the Ripper game held huge significance to the Webrunners. Not only were they always playing that game when they were together, it was also the last game they played before they split up following the traumatic event of the death of Catherine’s mother. To the surviving members, it was a symbol of fonder days long since past as well as the source of their falling out (outside of the love triangle that is). If the killer was Burton/Falconetti/Magnotta, it was where they discovered their fascination with murder. To Catherine, it was where/how her mother died, and where those she blamed for the murder stood idly by as she lost her family. Flaring on the dramatic side, it was a means of revenge, hence the need to make a model of white chapel as a hunting ground for the final reckoning.

          “And even considering the fact that the game does vary each playthough, the ending with Quintan typing at his computer was still very anticlimatic and boring.”

          Agreed.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/VPIU4XP6F5AGZADTG7XWYGWSQE John

         Sorry I have to disagree, the killer was indeed Dr. Burton, having played this game multiple times I saw the clues: if the Ripper was Magnotta or Eddie  they would have given you a picture of each other as the Ripper when you talked to them for the 1st time, if the Ripper was Burton you would get the Vigo Hamman connection with simian industries, and if it was Catherine… well there would have been some obvious clues (she knew about Farley’s death).

        Anyway I think this game was amazing (especially for its time) and dont forget this was a riff so Spoony had to be snarky   

      • Mangraa

        THANK YOU!!! You clarified this beautifully, and shame on spoony for not simply saying … well, what you said.  I wasn’t sure if the clues throughout the game were ambiguous every time or what.  Danke danke danke!

  • http://twitter.com/Sovvolf Steven Skelly

    Christ I’ve actually watched 10th Kingdom. Was wondering what that guy was from all the way through it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VWJMR4NWLHTPBM4X7KAW7ZDROI Donovan

    I just finished the Ripper videos; then I listened to Blue Oyster Cult, now I have the strong urge to watch them all again. 

  • sweetalyssum

    Been trying to watch the Finale video all week and it keeps saying “Sorry, we’re unable to play this episode.”  Sad face :(

  • Anonymous

    Well, at least this game had a few good parts. Christopher Walken is always a laugh, and (Don’t Fear) The Reaper is one of my favorite songs of all time. That’s about it. Although honestly, the plot really started to intrigue me throughout Act II and III. The whole connection between the victims and the Ripper him(or her)self was interesting.

    Great Let’s Play! Shame that the game had so many flaws, especially in the ludicrously difficult puzzles. The plot was actually pretty good, even if the envisioning of the internet was kinda silly.

  • Erik Mattern

    Spoony, this video isn’t working for me. Can you please look into it? Thanks!

  • Senna4ever

    Wait let me get this straight.

    Burton the robot disguised as Marion from Indy married Sully from Commando. But Max Zorin from A View To A Kill got jealous.
    Meanwhile Burton was raising a race of super intelligent monkeys?

    Plus someone was killing people.

    Good plot.

  • Strelnikov

    I always liked Spoony’s use of the “Clue” multiple ending music.

    This game is like watered-down-William Gibson-meets-cut-rate Agatha Christie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Freddy-Duran/100000817426762 Freddy Duran

    so…where did that random ending footage come from exactly…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elliott-Koepp/100000220245559 Elliott Koepp

    Unable to play this episode :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/peter.rieder.79 Peter Rieder

    Damn, the vid´s dead! Does anybody know an alternate location where I can view it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/kaads Denny Dombkowski

    All it says is “Sorry, we’re unable to play this episode”.

  • notyoursavior78

    Damn this video won’t play for me at all. I guess I’ll just have to watch the finale on youtube. Well it doesn’t look like his Ripper vids are on youtube anymore so I guess I’m stuck with some other person’s vid. Damn.

  • CronoT

    Video’s dead; both here and on Blip.

  • mik_robertson

    The video works fine now, thanks.

  • RightousMan

    so.. who was the killer?

  • Headbiter

    Just like with Phantasmagoria, I have to say that the basic idea behind the story is absolutely great. And even the idea to determine the killer randomly at the beginning of the game is awesome, especially for a detective story. Shame though that once again a great idea is spoiled by some pointless gameplay-issues and poor execution.
    Even more of a shame with such a cast.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pandamonium411 Amanda Holland

    Hah! I THOUGHT he looked familiar! Oh Wolf, what were you doing trying to do, taking on some cyber four-man ripper squad?

    They seriously don’t even BOTHER to explain how they did it? FUCK, that blows.

  • http://rainverse.blogspot.com/ Zeithri

    I’ve been giving this a lot of thought now.
    Originally I was with you, Yes the ending is a sort of a cop out but it’s also increadibly genius.

    You were never really -meant- to solve this.

    As we’ve established, anyone could had been the Ripper. Some here have said that Magnotta was the one with the most psychosis to do it while the general consensus seems to be that C/Katherine did it. I am leaning towards that she did it as well.

    The original Ripper murders were never solved and this is essentially a retelling of it in a Cyberpunk setting, in a way, describing what could or can be a scary reality once we get that technology. That people with sufficient skill in computer hacking / cracking could commit untraceable murders and go unsolved forever.

    There is no end to this, no matter who you frame, you will have gotten the wrong one or the right one but you will never know. As I said, you were never suppose to solve it in the first case, you were only meant to take the journey. THAT, is why this is a great ending rather than a cop out / bad ending. You can analyze all the evidence, but you will never know who truely was, the Ripper.

    • http://www.facebook.com/smegzilla Leon Snape

      Actually that’s wrong. The game randomly picks who the killer will be when you start the game and when you get to act 3 you get different clues depending upon who the killer really is. If you pick the wrong person you get the bad ending. You ONLY get the scene of Quinlan typing at his desk if you picked the correct killer. So yes, you’re meant to pay attention and solve the mystery because it’s very possible to be wrong and lose the game.

  • wizzbang

    Ok, so this wasn’t one of their better games. But I’m willing to forgive Take 2, since they also produced the delightful “Bureau 13″.

    Also, I’m always astonished that that really WAS a young(-ish) Paul Giamatti.

  • Scavrefamn Dragonclaw

    Though the game is open ended, the only character that could possibly be the Ripper is Claire Burton.

    Falconetti is the the least likely candidate. He cannot logically be the Ripper because he assists during the chase throughout the entire game whereas Magnotta and Burton actively work to undermine Jake Quinlain’s investigation. It is also very strongly implied that Falconetti was only convicted of the first Ripper murder because of evidence tampering by Magnotta… coupled with the recording Falconetti made of the last Ripper game where he seems completely shocked and surprised that someone actually died which is inconsistent with the way the Ripper behaves after each murder during the actual game.

    Magnotta seems to be psychotic and violent, but one of his core character traits is that he is clearly obsessed with Burton, due to having fallen madly in love with her but being spurned in favor of Falconetti. Trying to kill her during the final Ripper game would be wildly out of character…. Remember that no one but Burton knew that she swapped at the last second. He has no motive or incentive to commit any of the Ripper murders. Note that neither Falconetti nor Magnotta seem like the Mastermind types, being more directly violent and less likely to use indirect methods like injecting source code into the target from a (relatively) safe distance. This is shown in the game by method of Falconetti throwing knives at Quinlain and Magnotta beating him during the police interrogation.

    Burton was the only one that knew about the swap. She also had motive to murder Josie Dorsett, she killed her to get rid of Falconetti (She claims she knew marriage to him was the biggest mistake of her life) and knew Magnotta would jump at the chance to frame him, given that Falconetti was the GM and could have easily altered the program. She also has a direct motive for continuing the murders (Death resonance from her victims yields a big profit while simultaneously ridding herself of both Magnotta and Falconetti both whom she clearly hates). She also has precisely the tempered mind that would execute targets with surgical precision, far different from Magnotta and Falconetti’s hamfisted approach.

    Catherine could not possibly have been the Ripper, the first Ripper murder was performed when she was just a very young girl and she would have neither access to the facilities nor the technical know-how to get it done. Even adult Catherine has no feasible way to perform feats that are equal or above the supposed prodigies that are the Webrunners.

    Burton is the killer. I guarantee you the story was written with this end in mind, but was changed somewhere during development to make it more “Video game-y”.  (Archedgar)

  • Scavrefamn Dragonclaw

    Though the game is open ended, the only character that could possibly be the Ripper is Claire Burton.

    Falconetti is the the least likely candidate. He cannot logically be the Ripper because he assists during the chase throughout the entire game whereas Magnotta and Burton actively work to undermine Jake Quinlain’s investigation. It is also very strongly implied that Falconetti was only convicted of the first Ripper murder because of evidence tampering by Magnotta… coupled with the recording Falconetti made of the last Ripper game where he seems completely shocked and surprised that someone actually died which is inconsistent with the way the Ripper behaves after each murder during the actual game.

    Magnotta seems to be psychotic and violent, but one of his core character traits is that he is clearly obsessed with Burton, due to having fallen madly in love with her but being spurned in favor of Falconetti. Trying to kill her during the final Ripper game would be wildly out of character…. Remember that no one but Burton knew that she swapped at the last second. He has no motive or incentive to commit any of the Ripper murders. Note that neither Falconetti nor Magnotta seem like the Mastermind types, being more directly violent and less likely to use indirect methods like injecting source code into the target from a (relatively) safe distance. This is shown in the game by method of Falconetti throwing knives at Quinlain and Magnotta beating him during the police interrogation.

    Burton was the only one that knew about the swap. She also had motive to murder Josie Dorsett, she killed her to get rid of Falconetti (She claims she knew marriage to him was the biggest mistake of her life) and knew Magnotta would jump at the chance to frame him, given that Falconetti was the GM and could have easily altered the program. She also has a direct motive for continuing the murders (Death resonance from her victims yields a big profit while simultaneously ridding herself of both Magnotta and Falconetti both whom she clearly hates). She also has precisely the tempered mind that would execute targets with surgical precision, far different from Magnotta and Falconetti’s hamfisted approach. This is again demonstrated in game by virtue of the fact that she created the code that the Ripper uses. Absolutely all signs point to Burton.

    Catherine could not possibly have been the Ripper, the first Ripper murder was performed when she was just a very young girl and she would have neither access to the facilities nor the technical know-how to get it done. Even adult Catherine has no feasible way to perform feats that are equal or above the supposed prodigies that are the Webrunners.

    Burton is the killer. I guarantee you the story was written with this end in mind, but was changed somewhere during development to make it more “Video game-y”.  (Archedgar)

    • BWM

      I agree with all your points about the other 3, but I think Burton is equally silly, precisely because she is a careful, methodical scientist. Why would she kill all these other people, and not the two actually bothering her (or kill Magnatta and pin it on Falconetti)? A sentimental, obsessive maniac might be willing to kill innocent people and not the two she actually knows, but a cold, calculating doctor? Why would she contact Quinlin and boast like a lunatic? Why would she use experimental, prototype code that she alone was researching, guaranteeing she would be the first suspect as soon as anyone discovered said research and it’s application? Why didn’t she kill what’s-her-face (blanking out) once she was brought into Metacog and was right there, defenseless? Why would she kill them in such a grotesque manner (I wouldn’t really call what happened “surgical precision”) instead of just causing the heart to burst or something? Frankly, all the suspects suck, but since thing about Jack the Ripper that was so scary was precisely his mysterious, incomprehensible motive combined with his over-the-top love of blood and violence, I feel like it would be more appropriate for Falconetti to be the villain. Why did he do it? No one knows! He’s a lunatic who loves knives, hookers, drugs, violence, control, and flouting his superiority. The web is his entire life; he has nothing to lose. I still don’t think he’s a very good choice, but I feel like he’s the most likely. Clare is more capable, but she just doesn’t fit the spectacle of it all.

      • Scavrefamn Dragonclaw

        1- “Why would she kill all these other people” , I already explained that in game this is consistent with her ties to the mob involving the sale of death resonance files for high amounts of profit. Pinning it on Magnotta and Falconetti was an easy red herring that would allow her to escape capture. She also clearly hates both so that is another solid motive.

        2- “Why would she contact Quilain and boast like a lunatic”, to throw him off of her trail and towards Falconetti and Magnotta, this seems pretty obvious.

        3- “Why would she use experimental, prototype code that she alone was researching”, because she did not expect anyone to find out about it. It was through Quinlain’s investigation that that fact was uncovered, far against her will in fact. If you recall Burton was constantly undermining Jake Quinlain’s investigation and attempted to actively block his access to her secret lab and other facilities. If not for Quinlain her connection to the “Stolen” source code would never have been discovered.

        4- “Why didn’t she kill what’s-her-face(Katherine)” because the source code was not perfected yet, this was stated twice, once by Jimmy Walker(Black guy in a wheel chair) and once by Magnotta. She didn’t finish her off at the metacog because that would blow her cover, Katherine was being monitored by more than just Burton.

        5- “Why would she kill them in such a grotesque manner”, because she’s looking for the highest quality death resonance possible, things that other people could not easily acquire. This would yield higher profit than an average death resonance. This is not directly stated in the game but it is strongly implied (Talking animals hint at it heavily).

        6- Falconetti cannot possibly be the Ripper, it would be completely inconsistent with the character and story. Despite his external demeanor, he never actually does anything remotely sinister, immoral or even illegal during the course of the game. I know this is hard to process but think hard, did he ever actually kill or hurt anyone? did he ever do anything against Quinlain? no, but Burton did… and again, he assists Quinlain from the start.

        You are probably too young to understand , but it would make zero sense for Falconetti to be the Ripper and it makes perfect sense for it to be Burton; All signs point to Burton.

        • BWM

          Not sure why you make assumptions about my age; you’re likely wrong about however old you think I am, and it’s irrelevant anyway. I must disagree, because you are still looking at this whole problem wrong; thematically, the whole focus here is about Jack the Ripper, about the fear, the mystery, the shock, the reveling in the violence and death that From Hell was known for. From a writing perspective, Falconetti fits the themes. It being Burton is just…silly, really; it contradicts the entire premise of the game and the history it’s based off of. All your responses are thoughtful and well-researched, I’m not really debating your knowledge or rationale from a logical, business-like view, but I argue that you miss the big picture. It just doesn’t fit; some cold, calculating doctor trying to make money with death resonance, well, this completely fails to conform to the Ripper mythos or to the events in game. Of the three characters we see, only one has the personality, the behavior befitting the arrogant, attention-craving psychopath. Hell, the Ripper commissioned a virtual reproduction of the area of London Jack worked in; why? This is clearly something a demented, obsessed maniac would do, especially since, again, it was a suspicious act that helped reveal himself.
          Your “obvious” conclusions are, I must insist, not obvious; if you wanted death resonance, and you can kill through the web, and you don’t want to get caught, then the absolute worst thing you could do would be to do what you allege Burton did; kill her old associates, in a way that attracts massive attention, contact an apparently excellent investigative journalist and attack his partner, with code that could be traced back to you if it got found out. And it still doesn’t explain why she doesn’t just kill these other jerks; if the murders were being done by an intelligent, calculating individual, she wouldn’t have tried this whole scheme, she would have killed these three men, the biggest known threats to her operation, right off. The red herring angle is an argument after the fact; it only makes sense, now, because we know of the connection between the victims, but when she started, there was no connection, there was no path that a red herring would distract the police from. If she had killed Magnatta and Falconetti first, then left the rest of the group alone, no one would have been able to really connect it. Her relationship with them might not of even come up, and even if it did, it was well known the two had a bad history. Or again, kill one and frame the other, done deal. The multiple, grotesque deaths among the same small clique was precisely why she became a suspect, which only an idiot or an arrogant bastard would do without reason (by reason, I mean if there was a specific reason she had to kill THESE people and not others). Also, once Quinlain WAS a threat, well, why not kill him then? Again, a rational, intelligent person would have just done this, a crazy and prideful person would have loathed to kill off his “toy” and entertained no fear of being caught. And yes, I know why Katherine was not initially killed (even after multiple successes, but whatever), that wasn’t my question; she could easily have killed her at Metacog somehow. Hell, if she wants to finger Falconetti, then she should have called him for help, as was typical for her, then killed her while they dived and blamed him. Magnatta would have been there in a flash to arrest him. As for her never helping, well, again, this is actually kinda dumb of her, because it immediately makes her look suspicious. She neither kills Katherine nor plays it cool–she acts exactly like she should for a person who is technically innocent, in this specific case, but clearly has guilt over the general circumstances, and is trying to simply escape and hope everything goes away. A calculating killer would have eliminated Katherine, or played along perfectly normal and then pinned it on someone else, not just freaked out and gone running for, like, 3 days.
          As for Falconetti not logically being the Ripper character-wise, well, he’s actually perfect; again, Jack the Ripper was an arrogant, boasting, but clever, crazy psychopathic bastard. He was reasonably normal most of the time; he must of been, since he was never caught. But he had a sick other life, just like Falconetti. He has the personality; we know he likes drugs, hookers, kinky stuff, knives, blood, and is practically obsessed with the net. He holds his urges in check when he needs to, even plays the double-bluff by being kind of open and honest about it and helping Quinlain out, but only he has the personality to fit the bragging, the threats, the violence. Burton is such a rational fit for precisely this reason; to throw you off. Logically, she’s perfect! But that’s superficial; if logic was the guiding principle, everything would have been done completely differently. Insanity is the theme, the love of blood and death for it’s own sake.

          • Scavrefamn Dragonclaw

            It’s like you either didn’t read anything I posted or you are simply too young to understand. You first paragraph is a pretty clear indicator; you present zero arguments or facts and just throw out some nonsense.

            “Not sure why you make assumptions about my age; you’re likely wrong about however old you think I am, and it’s irrelevant anyway. I must disagree, because you are still looking at this whole problem wrong; thematically, the whole focus here is about Jack the Ripper, about the fear, the mystery, the shock, the reveling in the violence and death that From Hell was known for. From a writing perspective, Falconetti fits the themes. It being Burton is just…silly, really; it contradicts the entire premise of the game and the history it’s based off of. All your responses are thoughtful and well-researched, I’m not really debating your knowledge or rationale from a logical, business-like view, but I argue that you miss the big picture. It just doesn’t fit”

            Within that large block of text, there is not a *single* statement of logic or reason. You sir, are simply too young. gg son, you can have the last word.

          • BWM

            Huh. Constant references to age, failure to rebut, objectively and provably false statements, and all in response to a post that was, in fact, complimentary, polite, and respectful; a gentleman’s disagreement over something rather unimportant that was responded to with anger and insults. I’m sorry my childish insistence on having a different perspective, not to mention my civility, were simply not up to par with your bitter attacks and gnashing of teeth. Clearly, you are the elder, and more mature, of us two. I only hope that when I grow up, I’m as curmudgeonly, spiteful, and angry as you are; surely that is the sign of a wise man. Some people may argue that that sounds like an angry teenager pounding out his nerd rage on YouTube over the casting of the new Superman movie, but no sir, I know that only intelligent, not to mention insightful, seniors can rise to that level of eloquence. O Captain, my Captain, I bid you adieu and beg your forgiveness, and will try my hardest to emulate you, and be a raging cock to the next person who disagrees with me on narrative structure.

          • Scavrefamn Dragonclaw

            That’s an awful lot of words for “I’m a butthurt kiddie”, but please, continue to prove me right.

            Ok, now you can have the last word!

    • Slevin424

      This is why I didn’t like the game, you can’t lose. The killer is whoever you choose and it’s a lazy, sloppy and disappointing ending after all that build up. I mean from everything the game gave us I was really thinking Magnotta so I picked him and the game says with it’s ending “Yup he’s the killer good job the end” but I wanted to see all endings and it’s the same “Yup she/he’s the killer good job the end” it’s lazy. I still think it’s Magnotta, they clearly mention the Ripper being some hotshot programmer so you don’t think it would be Magnotta but the game tells us all the software and programs used to kill were all created by other people, the Ripper just edits them to do other actions thus implying he isn’t the technological god we all thought he just steals it and covers his tracks which Magnotta is great at doing. Everything points towards Magnotta in my mind but we won’t ever know who the killer really was cause the game was too lazy to make a proper ending.

    • Walt

      Scavre is right, BWM is wrong. This is called Scenario 1, where Burton is randomly selected to be the Ripper at the beginning of the game, and you see evidence of this in Act 3.

      “20.} Go to the Cafe Duchamp. Talk to Gambit Nelson; go through all dialogue
      choices. If you’re in Scenario 1 or 4, go to Vigo Haman’s table in the back
      of the cafe and talk to him. IF you’re in Scenario 1, use this order of
      conversation:
      1.) Confront him with the fact he owns Berman, Inc.
      2.) Ask if he knows Dr. Burton; tell him you know he does.
      3.) Tell him you know about Burton’s experiments with monkeys
      4.) Tell him you don’t care about him, only the Ripper.

      If you’re in Scenario 1, Dr. Burton is the Ripper.” –
      Dave Melanson’s Semi-Official Solution/Walkthrough to RIPPER
      http://www.the-spoiler.com/ADVENTURE/Take2/ripper.2.html

      But, you forgot a piece of the puzzle – Magnotta is covering for Burton because he’s in love with her. He knows she’s the murderer. But, he’s trying to pin the murders on Falconetti. Just as he did originally.

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